50 Cal Getdown

[Kid Presentable]

Heads up that Mixmaster Mike is dropping his new album for free soon. The track 50 Cal Getdown features MCA. Whether it’s the old snippet recently shared or something else is to be seen. I assume most are aware, but in the off chance you’re not......;)

[paulb]

Something to look forward to, no doubt!

[abbott]

hope to hear more

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

When does this come out? I feel like there hasn’t been much talk as of late

[pesto pizza]

This album is taking a long time being released

[Kid Presentable]

I find it really odd that MMM is the one releasing something from the ‘vault’ of posthumous stuff first. When it does eventually get released, I mean.

[pesto pizza]

The song will contain a verse from MCA, still wondering when it will be released.

[3MTA3]

I keep checking for an update and the only thing I've found is that it will be released on 12/6/19 and you can preorder it in CD form (2xcd that is) at roughtrade.com. I ordered it mostly out of curiosity/possibly limited edition(?), but hope to be able to download it for free besides earlier, but who knows?

[Eoin MCL]

I saw Mix Master Mike live in Dublin two weeks ago and right at the top of the show he mentioned having MCA on his new record. He said that the vocals were recorded back in the Hello Nasty era and that he went above management and sought Dechen Yauch’s blessing to use it. Legend.

For anyone who wants to hear a snippet, he previewed a little bit on Instagram a few months ago. https://youtu.be/lhxmSh-X_8Y

The link to the album on Rough Trade’s UK site seems to have been cleared, but you can still see it on the US store.

[dave790]

Interesting, because by MMM labelling it ‘Yauch’s last song’ it sort of implied that it was at least one of the final things he recorded.

[pesto pizza]

Interesting, because by MMM labelling it ‘Yauch’s last song’ it sort of implied that it was at least one of the final things he recorded.
Thats what l thought too

[Eoin MCL]

Thats what l thought too

Yeah same here, threw me a bit. Maybe some interviews closer to the release date will clarify. I also may have misheard him, but I doubt it.

[Kid Presentable]

I saw Mix Master Mike live in Dublin two weeks ago and right at the top of the show he mentioned having MCA on his new record. He said that the vocals were recorded back in the Hello Nasty era and that he went above management and sought Dechen Yauch’s blessing to use it. Legend.

For anyone who wants to hear a snippet, he previewed a little bit on Instagram a few months ago. https://youtu.be/lhxmSh-X_8Y

The link to the album on Rough Trade’s UK site seems to have been cleared, but you can still see it on the US store.

Do we know they are one and the same?

[Eoin MCL]

Do we know they are one and the same?

That’s a very good point! I don’t think we do, and we won’t know for sure until the album is released in December.

So what you’re saying is potentially we have two songs. That snippet might be using vocals by Yauch from the Hot Sauce/Post Hot Sauce era, while 50 Cal Getdown could be a whole other thing!

[Kid Presentable]

One is the last song he worked on, the other uses HN Vox, yes. He could have worked on/revisited old stuff post HSC. They did record a bunch of stuff they’d already demo-ed.

[Brother McDuff]

sounds a little too coincidental to me. would be surprised if these werent one and the same verse.

[YoungRemy]

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[Micodin]

yeah, i noticed that yesterday on his IG. looks like a bunch of sings that were listed got cut. sampling issues?

[Laver1969]

Someone asked in the Instagram comments and MMM replied that it’s gonna be in there. So not exactly sure why it isn’t listed.

[Micodin]

i noticed that new pic has a Side A and Side B. maybe thats the vinyl version and the vinyl version has less tracks? i dunno. it’s confusing never the less.

[Micodin]

ok, after further research, Roughdraft commented on the post and said “the amazing track with MCA is on the bonus mix cd. we can confirm” and mmm said the same to someone else’s question.

so, it’s in the dj mix version of the album, on a cd, and not a separate track like previously listed which is kind of disappointing. especially if you wanted that song on wax. either way i’m looking forward to hearing it.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

How is this album taking so long?

[pesto pizza]

Is the album out yet
Rough trade say the 7th

[bigfatlove06]

Mine were shipped yesterday.

[Micodin]

anyone else find it weird choice that Mike would name a song that Yauch is on after a gun?

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah. The whole thing is weird.

[pesto pizza]

Anyone heard this track yet?

[Eoin MCL]

I received my copies of the album on vinyl and CD yesterday. I briefly scanned through the bonus CD trying to find this track, but as the tracks weren’t broken up individually it proved rather difficult.

I couldn’t find the snippet that MMM played on the video above, but I did find a short segment with Yauch delivering maybe a single verse? It sounded very muffled, which I suppose makes sense if it came from a demo tape. It was accompanied by Yauch playing Gratitude live with extra fuzzy bass. I’m assuming that was it? I’ll listen again tonight, had to rush out last night to see Star Wars. :D

[pesto pizza]

I received my copies of the album on vinyl and CD yesterday. I briefly scanned through the bonus CD trying to find this track, but as the tracks weren’t broken up individually it proved rather difficult.

I couldn’t find the snippet that MMM played on the video above, but I did find a short segment with Yauch delivering maybe a single verse? It sounded very muffled, which I suppose makes sense if it came from a demo tape. It was accompanied by Yauch playing Gratitude live with extra fuzzy bass. I’m assuming that was it? I’ll listen again tonight, had to rush out last night to see Star Wars. :D
Cheers. I saw star wars today

[dust monkey]

i'm going tonight at 6, no spoilers i'm on media blackout. i read a few things from the premiere, some really nasty comments and some really lovely ones. kinda over toxic fandom because...just can't win. i feel sorry for people in the spotlight who put their hearts and souls into art like this, only to be dismantled by a very small yet very toxic group of manbabies who can't get over the fact it's just a fucking movie.

[Brother McDuff]

if Yauch’s cameo on this record is as diminutive as reported, i hate to say it sounds a bit exploitative. a questionable ploy to sell some more units, and by a close friend at that. i never took MMM as the bloodsucking type, nor has that opinion wavered, however it certainly doesnt paint a flattering picture on the surface.

[Laver1969]

if Yauch’s cameo on this record is as diminutive as reported, i hate to say it sounds a bit exploitative. a questionable ploy to sell some more units, and by a close friend at that. i never took MMM as the bloodsucking type, nor has that opinion wavered, however it certainly doesnt paint a flattering picture on the surface.

Kinda glad I procrastinated and didn’t get caught up in MMM’s hype. I’ll reserve final judgement when there’s more info - and hoping for the best.

[Micodin]

i dunno man, sounds like you’re being unreasonable. the song isn’t even on the album. it’s on a bonus cd that from the sounds of it you have to search for. it’s not like he’s been selling print and social media ads and promoting the album claiming it to have a “lost MCA from the Beastie Boys” song on it. other than his one Instagram post with the tracklist i haven’t seen him using that song as a selling tool to get people to buy his album.

i think we all saw the tracklist and jumped to our own conclusions on what that song could be. disappointed or not, jumping the gun and using language like exploitive and bloodsucker sounds pretty harsh imo.

[Brother McDuff]

i dunno man, sounds like you’re being unreasonable. the song isn’t even on the album. it’s on a bonus cd that from the sounds of it you have to search for. it’s not like he’s been selling print and social media ads and promoting the album claiming it to have a “lost MCA from the Beastie Boys” song on it. other than his one Instagram post with the tracklist i haven’t seen him using that song as a selling tool to get people to buy his album.

i think we all saw the tracklist and jumped to our own conclusions on what that song could be. disappointed or not, jumping the gun and using language like exploitive and bloodsucker sounds pretty harsh imo.

thats a fair criticism, Micodin. i def came off more harsh than intended there. what i was trying to express was that it looks kinda shady on the surface, though i still have faith in fella that its nothing of that nature. poor diction on my part for sure. theres a million reasons why the teased content hasnt surfaced yet, or may never. politics are politics. thanks for whistle blowin, my dude. nothing but respect for MMM over here.

[Micodin]

i mean, the only social media i’m active on is Instagram so i could be talking out of pocket but that’s the only place i’ve seen the song/album advertised. he could be hyping it up in other places and i just haven’t seen it. either way, i know mike has been super cool with us Beastie fans since he became part of the crew, and he started out as a fan like us first. i just hope he wouldn’t do something shady like that to his friend Yauch.

i would love to hear whatever this song is tho. just out of curiosity sake.

[pesto pizza]

I would of thought someone would of put this on youtube by now.
Has anyone heard it, before l go and buy the CD for a minute of lyrics by MCA
I dont really like any of mixmaster mikes music, l want to but l just dont

[Sir SkratchaLot]

For anybody who's interested, here is the order link.


https://www.roughtrade.com/us/mix-master-mike/conquest/lp?channable=a18786.MjY2MDc3&gclid=CjwKCAiAi4fwBRBxEiwAEO8_HsaOZ93LNuc_vW-dYG2NS_A6vUF0rFzWbN6uISNaSh1fw-LWQyyv9RoC-1wQAvD_BwE

[Micodin]

if mmm wants to share the song, cool. but ripping someone’s brand new music to Youtube is a bad look. if you want to hear the song bad enough you should pay for it.

[pesto pizza]

if mmm wants to share the song, cool. but ripping someone’s brand new music to Youtube is a bad look. if you want to hear the song bad enough you should pay for it.
You are always on here, non stop for years telling people off , arguing in every thread.
l'm so sick of your comments.Everytime l see your name l think here we go again.
I know this is what you want, so you can write another clever comment.

[Micodin]

You are always on here, non stop for years telling people off , arguing in every thread.
l'm so sick of your comments.Everytime l see your name l think here we go again.
I know this is what you want, so you can write another clever comment.

happy christmas! xoxo

[pesto pizza]

i mean, the only social media i’m active on is Instagram so i could be talking out of pocket but that’s the only place i’ve seen the song/album advertised. he could be hyping it up in other places and i just haven’t seen it. either way, i know mike has been super cool with us Beastie fans since he became part of the crew, and he started out as a fan like us first. i just hope he wouldn’t do something shady like that to his friend Yauch.

i would love to hear whatever this song is tho. just out of curiosity sake.

if you want to hear the song bad enough you should pay for it.if your curiosity is that bad, you should pay for it!
There the message board police master Micodin has spoken

[Micodin]

if you want to hear the song bad enough you should pay for it.if your curiosity is that bad, you should pay for it!
There the message board police master Micodin has spoken

this might come to a shock to you but just because you don’t like my opinion doesn’t mean i’m not going to give it. posting someone’s music without their permission is a bitch move. you’d think you would know that already without it being explained to you. sheesh. show some common sense and compassion, dickhead.

[pesto pizza]

this might come to a shock to you but just because you don’t like my opinion doesn’t mean i’m not going to give it. posting someone’s music without their permission is a bitch move. you’d think you would know that already without it being explained to you. sheesh. show some common sense and compassion, dickhead.

And it seems YOU don't like other peoples opinions on this message board ALL THE TIME, DICKHEAD!
People can't say nothing without you chipping in and trying to make them look bad, lve seen you do it for years

[Micodin]

And it seems YOU don't like other peoples opinions on this message board ALL THE TIME, DICKHEAD!
People can't say nothing without you chipping in and trying to make them look bad, lve seen you do it for years

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[dust monkey]

well that escalated quickly, and lot's of dicks and heads talk and that's always nice to hear around the miracle zombie season. speaking of zombies we watched Double Tap on the eve of xmas day and it was glorious.

....madison.....

you two behave yourselves now.

[Micodin]

well that escalated quickly, and lot's of dicks and heads talk and that's always nice to hear around the miracle zombie season. speaking of zombies we watched Double Tap on the eve of xmas day and it was glorious.

....madison.....

you two behave yourselves now.

haha yeah, whatevs. dude is light work. he’s been trying to vote me off the island for years now. i’m not worried.

on to important matters, Double Tap and Ready or Not are my two favorite horror comedies of the year. i thought both were pretty great.

[bigfatlove06]

I collect MMM so I would have bought it with or without MCA on it. I was like most everybody who would even read this thread in that I hoped it was something monumental. It turned out to be less than that, and I'm OK with that because imo it was not marketed in a way that led me to believe that it was more than a verse on a mix tape.

Given that MMM spent some time with Mike and Adam on the book tour, and looked them in the face every day for weeks if not months, it doesn't really make sense that he'd dick them over for a cash grab. That is not what this is about. He's not a cash grabber. I can't even get Magma Chamber on vinyl or CD. It seems more like a tribute from him to the guy he worked with on music for over a decade.

The track itself is cool. To me, the album is fantastic. I don't want to say that anybody is wrong for their opinion.

In my mind... MMM put out a record that you can only get from one retailer and limited it to 1,000 copies on vinyl because people like me wanted a physical copy. He's not going to make dick off of this release by selling vinyl. Rough Trade sold it at a reasonable price, and (by the way) added a free promo CD that included an hour long mix of the album plus lots of bonus material. Just over 2 minutes of that free bonus CD contained a track that featured MCA playing fuzz base and a very small sample of lyrics we haven't heard. I'm good with that.

In the woodshed working on my chops to hide the pressures coming out the box

[pesto pizza]

I collect MMM so I would have bought it with or without MCA on it. I was like most everybody who would even read this thread in that I hoped it was something monumental. It turned out to be less than that, and I'm OK with that because imo it was not marketed in a way that led me to believe that it was more than a verse on a mix tape.

Given that MMM spent some time with Mike and Adam on the book tour, and looked them in the face every day for weeks if not months, it doesn't really make sense that he'd dick them over for a cash grab. That is not what this is about. He's not a cash grabber. I can't even get Magma Chamber on vinyl or CD. It seems more like a tribute from him to the guy he worked with on music for over a decade.

The track itself is cool. To me, the album is fantastic. I don't want to say that anybody is wrong for their opinion.

In my mind... MMM put out a record that you can only get from one retailer and limited it to 1,000 copies on vinyl because people like me wanted a physical copy. He's not going to make dick off of this release by selling vinyl. Rough Trade sold it at a reasonable price, and (by the way) added a free promo CD that included an hour long mix of the album plus lots of bonus material. Just over 2 minutes of that free bonus CD contained a track that featured MCA playing fuzz base and a very small sample of lyrics we haven't heard. I'm good with that.

In the woodshed working on my chops to hide the pressures coming out the box
Sounds good, l heard a sample of another track on instagram which was really good.
So is the MCA track him rapping over the fuzz bass or two separate tracks?

[pesto pizza]

Bigfatlove06 that was a good enough review for me, l just went and bought the double CD off rough trade, cheers.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Mine showed up yesterday. It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect out of Mike. High adrenaline, spaced out, sonic onslaught.

100% agree with Bigfatlove's perspective on the MCA track. Mike's music career doesn't have much in the way of fan pandering or compromise. He's always been savagly unique and independent. It's hard for me to think of another artist who has the same amount of integrity as him.

[pesto pizza]

Just the heard the track. Its good but not what l thought it was going to be.
l remembered there being more vocals on that instagram clip that he released last year
On 50 cal getdown there is only about two lines of vocals
It is a good album very b-boy hip hop meets todays music.

[pesto pizza]

That OUTRO song on the mix cd is interesting

[dust monkey]

i like it..... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG6jXDudySM)

sounds like a beastie boy song even without the few vocals mixed in

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

So it’s basically what he would mix for the live shows when Gratitude was going to be played.

You could barley hear MCA and he was hardly on it.

[Kid Presentable]

It’s precisely the gratitude MMM/MCA intro from Reading 98. I like it.

[brmanuk]

I saw Mix Master Mike live in Dublin two weeks ago and right at the top of the show he mentioned having MCA on his new record. He said that the vocals were recorded back in the Hello Nasty era and that he went above management and sought Dechen Yauch’s blessing to use it. Legend.

For anyone who wants to hear a snippet, he previewed a little bit on Instagram a few months ago. https://youtu.be/lhxmSh-X_8Y

The link to the album on Rough Trade’s UK site seems to have been cleared, but you can still see it on the US store.

The IG preview sounds totally different to what was released. Pure speculation, but I wonder if he gone some kick back from the band/family about using MCA vox and that resulted in it being taken off the album and replaced with a track with only 2 lines in?!

[Jiberish]

Yeah that's not the vox he shared on instagram last year.

Oh well.

[Kid Presentable]

Had to be some pushback; it was an album track before it was this. Hopefully for good reason ie the boys want to be the only ones releasing Yauch’s stuff. Not a beef, just a firm position.

The IG snippet sounded like something entirely different.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Had to be some pushback; it was an album track before it was this. Hopefully for good reason ie the boys want to be the only ones releasing Yauch’s stuff. Not a beef, just a firm position.

The IG snippet sounded like something entirely different.

I think you're really speculating here though. There are tons of different reasons why Mike could have changed the track, took it off the main album (if it was ever even definitely going to be on there), etc.

There are also any number of ways Yauch's intellectual property and recordings could be handled/controlled. Mike D and Adrock may have no say at all as far as that clip, or they could have total control, or anywhere in between.

The scenarios are so numerous and the facts are so sparse that its hardly worth speculating over.

[Brother McDuff]

I think you're really speculating here though. There are tons of different reasons why Mike could have changed the track, took it off the main album (if it was ever even definitely going to be on there), etc.

There are also any number of ways Yauch's intellectual property and recordings could be handled/controlled. Mike D and Adrock may have no say at all as far as that clip, or they could have total control, or anywhere in between.

The scenarios are so numerous and the facts are so sparse that its hardly worth speculating over.

well-stated (y)

[Kid Presentable]

I think you're really speculating here though. There are tons of different reasons why Mike could have changed the track, took it off the main album (if it was ever even definitely going to be on there), etc.

There are also any number of ways Yauch's intellectual property and recordings could be handled/controlled. Mike D and Adrock may have no say at all as far as that clip, or they could have total control, or anywhere in between.

The scenarios are so numerous and the facts are so sparse that its hardly worth speculating over.

Obviously. And there was in fact a track list/album art published with the track on the album. Do I really need to clarify that I’m speculating?

[dave790]

^^^ Nope, I found that pretty obvious.

It also seems highly plausible. MMM posts a snippet of an unheard track months ago with the sign-off 'now you can say that you've heard Yauch's last song.' A song with Yauch guesting then appears on the original tracklist MMM posted for his upcoming release. Then the track is seemingly pulled, and a snippet of something completely different appears on a bonus track instead (which MMM confirms by stating the vocals are from the HN era). Something forced that change, and it's obvious which track would have garnered more attention, so pushback is solid speculation for me.

I like MMM, he brought a lot to the Beasties live shows and obviously there was a great deal of fondness and trust between the 4. However, I wasn't a fan of him sharing that snippet in the first place. Just seemed wrong. Then again he did all the beats for Hello Nasty and TT5B so maybe he's earned that right :rolleyes:

[Sir SkratchaLot]

^^^ Nope, I found that pretty obvious.

It also seems highly plausible. MMM posts a snippet of an unheard track months ago with the sign-off 'now you can say that you've heard Yauch's last song.' A song with Yauch guesting then appears on the original tracklist MMM posted for his upcoming release. Then the track is seemingly pulled, and a snippet of something completely different appears on a bonus track instead (which MMM confirms by stating the vocals are from the HN era). Something forced that change, and it's obvious which track would have garnered more attention, so pushback is solid speculation for me.

I like MMM, he brought a lot to the Beasties live shows and obviously there was a great deal of fondness and trust between the 4. However, I wasn't a fan of him sharing that snippet in the first place. Just seemed wrong. Then again he did all the beats for Hello Nasty and TT5B so maybe he's earned that right :rolleyes:

Except for 3 MCs and 1 DJ, he didn't do the beats for Hello Nasty and TT5B.

[Uru-Nitro]

Except for 3 MCs and 1 DJ, he didn't do the beats for Hello Nasty and TT5B.

That's an interesting question. Obviously saying that "he did all the beats" is not correct, but I think he's refering to participate on the tracks by adding turntablism to them… and that seems legit.

-in TT5B i think MMM scratch in almost every song, so is fair to say he was very involved in the Project.

-in HN, due to the back cover credits, we use to think MMM only collaborated on the 3mcs and 1dj track (including me), but if you read the full credits inside, it states:
Additional DJ styling by Mix Master Mike on "Sneaking out of the hospital", "putting shame in your game", "cant wont dont stop" and "unite"

It was a big "discover" to me, as long as I always tought that was Adrock the man behind the scratches for these songs.

Again, he was not involved in the bigger part of HN, but he was more than a single guest. (lb)

[Micodin]

as a fellow beat maker there's a huge difference in making a beat and someone adding some cuts to it. i just wanted to make the obvious, obvious.

that said, MMM can make some vicious beats and i wish he participated more on TT5B because the bulk of the beats on that album are pretty wimpy and Mike can make some bangers.

[dave790]

Except for 3 MCs and 1 DJ, he didn't do the beats for Hello Nasty and TT5B.

Yes, it was a thinly-veiled dig at some of MMM's claims in interviews over the years.