Let the Record Show Ep. 30: DJ Hurricane

[tt5brevisited]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhdpKMsfIA

[Jiberish]

Nice!

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Nice!

That was dope.

[Bradleystp]

Awesome, thanks!

Wish we knew why he was not included in the book at all. Was a glaring omission, along with Mario C.

[pesto pizza]

Nice to know he is still in contact with Adrock.
Always had a feeling him and Mike D are not the best of friends even when they toured together

[cj hood]

Nice to know he is still in contact with Adrock.
Always had a feeling him and Mike D are not the best of friends even when they toured together

(y)

[brooklyndust]

Nice to know he is still in contact with Adrock.
Always had a feeling him and Mike D are not the best of friends even when they toured together

What makes you feel this?

[pesto pizza]

Ive always thought it since 1992 watching interviews, Hurricanes reaction in the Horseplay DVD about money and that Hurricanes always says in interviews since 1998 that he keeps in contact with Adrock but never mentions Mike D.

[Micodin]

i think y'all are grasping for straws. a twenty year old dvd isn't going to tell you anything about their past or present day relationship.

when you little scamps get together, you're worse than a sewing circle.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Ive always thought it since 1992 watching interviews, Hurricanes reaction in the Horseplay DVD about money and that Hurricanes always says in interviews since 1998 that he keeps in contact with Adrock but never mentions Mike D.

Watch this
https://youtu.be/16ibHn3koNE?t=341

[Extra Cheese]

Watch this
https://youtu.be/16ibHn3koNE?t=341

what i come away with from that is that adam is hurricane's favorite but he pronounces his last name as horowitz after all those years together

[M|X|Y]

and ricky powell...



these omissions seem kinda mean considering what the bboys must signify to them and their lives. these guys prob didnt come away from all of it with the millions adam and mike did - the recognition would mean a lot i'm sure

[Brother McDuff]

and ricky powell...



these omissions seem kinda mean considering what the bboys must signify to them and their lives. these guys prob didnt come away from all of it with the millions adam and mike did - the recognition would mean a lot i'm sure

the boys have proven to be pretty stand-up fellas many times over at this stage. i cant imagine these omissions are being taken unceremoniously by the parties in question. besides, the bboys pretty much made these dudes' careers. courtesy enough, imo.

[3stooges]

I haven't read or seen the book but my understanding of it is that it's more of a fun book with fun stories about the band rather than a serious complete thorough history or detailed personal memoir. I think when the guys write their individual memoirs (whenever that day comes) we'll get more detail and more of an "inside scoop" on the inner workings and inter-relationships with different people in the crew and extended crew.

[M|X|Y]

the boys have proven to be pretty stand-up fellas many times over at this stage. i cant imagine these omissions are being taken unceremoniously by the parties in question. besides, the bboys pretty much made these dudes' careers. courtesy enough, imo.




yeah they have, but nobody's perfect. making their careers... yes and no. id say bboys also benefited from the talents of those around them, in addition to their own undeniable genius. the group we know today would be a completely different thing if it had just been them, self-produced with no musical input from all the "4th beasties". im not hating on them, just saying maybe the omissions are a little harsh

[Micodin]

all of the people that feel like they were left out or didn’t get enough recognition are free to write their own books.

[Extra Cheese]

Well they’ve hated Ricky for quite some time now. It’s obvious. I say that with never having heard any firsthand information or gossip and yet i know I’m right.

Adrock always talks about not wanting to be that old guy at the club or the old drunk guy or we got friends who act like dicks. Clearly meant Ricky all those times

But Ricky is pretty corny. Dope pics but corny dude , ironic because he always calls out corny

[M|X|Y]

all of the people that feel like they were left out or didn’t get enough recognition are free to write their own books.

mean.
:cool:

EC, same.. I got that same impression for the same reasons.. still got love for the guy tho

[Micodin]

it seems like you people are more concerned about the peeps that didn't get mentioned in the book than the actual people themselves. i haven't seen Ricky, Cey, Hurricane or anyone else that was down make any grievances about not getting mentioned in the book.

[abbott]

enjoyed this.

no surprise I like Ricky P.

[3stooges]

it seems like you people are more concerned about the peeps that didn't get mentioned in the book than the actual people themselves. i haven't seen Ricky, Cey, Hurricane or anyone else that was down make any grievances about not getting mentioned in the book.

You can't bring up that kind of thing for yourself, other people have to do it for you. To do it yourself can only be a bad look. It's always better to keep these kinds of things to yourself.

The thing I don't understand is Cane said he quit because he felt he wasn't getting paid enough...but...could he really get a better paying gig than that? I could be wrong, but once he left, I doubt he ever made as much as he made touring with the Beasties. I think it's probably more that he was jealous of what the boys were keeping for themselves, rather than him being underpaid. Everything is relative though. He probably felt like they could have afforded to pay him more, and when they wouldn't, he felt disrespected. I can see both sides.....he is like "I'm an important part of the group", but at the same time, they are thinking "yeah but really just the tour dj, not irreplaceable".

[Micodin]

my point is, if they don’t care then why do you? it’s really none of our business. the only bad look i see here is a bunch of fans gossiping and speculating on shit that doesn’t pertain to them. Cey wasn’t mentioned in the book at all and he was Adam’s childhood friend. he still went to a bunch of the shows on the book tour. he looked extremely happy to be there. there has to be better stuff for us fans to talk about instead of worrying about who did and didn’t get mentioned in their book and jump to conclusions. we don't know how much Adam and Mike wrote that didn't make into the book. we don't know what the editors thought they should cut out to make room for funnier stories. i'm sure they had to cap it off at some point. who know? who cares? the book was great.

as for Hurra. dude had a family and kids to support. i doubt touring every couple of years was enough to support them on a tour dj salary. he had to do for himself. business not personal, no hard feelings.

and i'm just stating my opinion here for the record. i'm not trying to tell you guys what to talk about. it's just weird for me as a grown man to be gossiping about other grown mens personal business. i choose to celebrate the band and all those that were involved instead of getting into the weeds on shit i don't know or want to know about.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I'm glad they didn't get too far into drama in the book, that left more time for crazy stories and talk about music that influenced them, gear they used, etc. Regardless of what was put in or left out, as a whole, I felt like it personified the what the band was about. Very dope, not too serious and very little drama. Personally, I could read a whole book that only dealt with the technical aspects of how they made the music and came up with ideas.

As for Hurra, he obviously still has a lot of love and respect for the band and his contributions, otherwise I imagine he'd ignore that chapter of his life.

[Micodin]

Personally, I could read a whole book that only dealt with the technical aspects of how they made the music and came up with ideas.

same. and a thorough documentary to match.

[tuc70021]

Personally, I could read a whole book that only dealt with the technical aspects of how they made the music and came up with ideas.


On that point, I loved Adrock's chapter about how they put so much work into "fake" samples on HSCP2 and no one seemed to care. I like the album a lot, but it honestly wasn't until years after its release that I learned about the made-up samples thing. Even though I guess I should like an album just for the music, knowing that fact made it so much cooler to me. I guess when TT5B and Mix Up came out I kind of thought "ok, so they're all grown up, maybe just enjoying normal life and don't being super creative anymore - that's fine." Then when I heard how they made HSCP2 it blew my mind. I could definitely read a short book on the making of that album (and I'd pay a pretty penny for an album of the "fake songs" they wrote and took samples from).

[3stooges]

my point is, if they don’t care then why do you? it’s really none of our business. the only bad look i see here is a bunch of fans gossiping and speculating on shit that doesn’t pertain to them. Cey wasn’t mentioned in the book at all and he was Adam’s childhood friend. he still went to a bunch of the shows on the book tour. he looked extremely happy to be there. there has to be better stuff for us fans to talk about instead of worrying about who did and didn’t get mentioned in their book and jump to conclusions. we don't know how much Adam and Mike wrote that didn't make into the book. we don't know what the editors thought they should cut out to make room for funnier stories. i'm sure they had to cap it off at some point. who know? who cares? the book was great.

as for Hurra. dude had a family and kids to support. i doubt touring every couple of years was enough to support them on a tour dj salary. he had to do for himself. business not personal, no hard feelings.

and i'm just stating my opinion here for the record. i'm not trying to tell you guys what to talk about. it's just weird for me as a grown man to be gossiping about other grown mens personal business. i choose to celebrate the band and all those that were involved instead of getting into the weeds on shit i don't know or want to know about.

Well I'm pretty sure I don't really care about who was in the book or not because I haven't even seen a copy of it yet. I'm sure I will at some point but I just haven't gotten around to it. But that Cane interview was just interesting to me cause this is the first time I saw it, and what I had heard before was that they basically got MMM to do scratches on the recordings, and then be their tour dj, cause they were wanting some next level shit. And kind of just let Cane go, like, "thanks for everything but we decided to make a change and go with this other guy." But the way he tells it he made the decision himself to leave because he felt like he wasn't paid enough. That was something I'd never heard before. Two different stories. And yeah maybe the touring wasn't consistent work, but I would think he must have been raking it in when they were on tour. That's a job I would never give up personally.

[pesto pizza]

You can't bring up that kind of thing for yourself, other people have to do it for you. To do it yourself can only be a bad look. It's always better to keep these kinds of things to yourself.

The thing I don't understand is Cane said he quit because he felt he wasn't getting paid enough...but...could he really get a better paying gig than that? I could be wrong, but once he left, I doubt he ever made as much as he made touring with the Beasties. I think it's probably more that he was jealous of what the boys were keeping for themselves, rather than him being underpaid. Everything is relative though. He probably felt like they could have afforded to pay him more, and when they wouldn't, he felt disrespected. I can see both sides.....he is like "I'm an important part of the group", but at the same time, they are thinking "yeah but really just the tour dj, not irreplaceable".

Well said

[pesto pizza]

Well I'm pretty sure I don't really care about who was in the book or not because I haven't even seen a copy of it yet. I'm sure I will at some point but I just haven't gotten around to it. But that Cane interview was just interesting to me cause this is the first time I saw it, and what I had heard before was that they basically got MMM to do scratches on the recordings, and then be their tour dj, cause they were wanting some next level shit. And kind of just let Cane go, like, "thanks for everything but we decided to make a change and go with this other guy." But the way he tells it he made the decision himself to leave because he felt like he wasn't paid enough. That was something I'd never heard before. Two different stories. And yeah maybe the touring wasn't consistent work, but I would think he must have been raking it in when they were on tour. That's a job I would never give up personally.

(y)

[Micodin]

Well I'm pretty sure I don't really care about who was in the book or not because I haven't even seen a copy of it yet.

oh, that explains a lot. you must be a big fan of the band. :rolleyes:

[M|X|Y]

it seems like you people are more concerned about the peeps that didn't get mentioned in the book than the actual people themselves. i haven't seen Ricky, Cey, Hurricane or anyone else that was down make any grievances about not getting mentioned in the book.

You can't bring up that kind of thing for yourself, other people have to do it for you. To do it yourself can only be a bad look. It's always better to keep these kinds of things to yourself.

Exactly.

It's not gossip that certain people were excluded, it's right there (or rather not) in text! Just saying, dudes deserve to be recognized - don't know what's so hard to understand about that (y)

[Micodin]

i understand what you’re saying, i just think you’re wrong and going the wrong way about it. i’m just bored of all the bitching is all.

and if it’s that important to you, write your own book about the band and recognize the people that you felt were slighted or left out. no one is stopping you. i’m sure people would buy it. do something positive about it the situation is my only solution.

[3stooges]

oh, that explains a lot. you must be a big fan of the band. :rolleyes:

You are probably a bigger fan than I am. I'm okay with that. But up through CYH you should believe me that I basically idolized those guys.

[M|X|Y]

and if it’s that important to you, write your own book about the band and recognize the people that you felt were slighted or left out. no one is stopping you.




i'll just recognize them on the bbmb, i aint got time for all that shit (y)

[dave790]

I agree with Micodin! It’s not like those guys weren’t even mentioned in the book. I think it’s pretty obvious from reading it how much of an impact Mario had and how important he was. Hurra too clearly played a part, although he always struck me as a stands-there-and-plays-the-right-record type DJ. But he’s not been wiped from their history, and I don’t expect all the details from any ‘fallout’ or whatever to be included. It’s not that sort of book is it - they’re not even particularly hard on Russell / Def Jam etc. And they just don’t seem the settling scores / here’s some juicy gossip for you type.

I’m just not sure what people expect...most books of this kind don’t allow so many outside contributions, yet the boys get slammed for missing out certain people. You can’t please everyone. I imagine logistically it is hard to get everyone involved anyway. Besides, even those who made literary contributions - such as MMM - I mean it’s hardly game changing stuff is it? Aside from one or two sharp essays, a lot of the guest material is expendable. Like Ricky Powell himself!

[Bradleystp]

I’m just not sure what people expect...most books of this kind don’t allow so many outside contributions, yet the boys get slammed for missing out certain people. You can’t please everyone. I imagine logistically it is hard to get everyone involved anyway. Besides, even those who made literary contributions - such as MMM - I mean it’s hardly game changing stuff is it? Aside from one or two sharp essays, a lot of the guest material is expendable. Like Ricky Powell himself!

While I agree with this, and I agree that MMM didn't add too much, I feel that Mario would have a lot to say. He was there for some major Beastie Boys recordings, hanging out and hitting record for many years. He was a major player, probably one of the biggest other than the boys themselves.

[dave790]

I 100% accept that if there is a strong case for an inexplicable omission from the guest contributors - for whatever reason - then Mario C is it. Definitely earned the title of the 4th Beastie. And I agree it would have been nice / interesting to hear from the man himself.

[Jiberish]

While I agree with this, and I agree that MMM didn't add too much, I feel that Mario would have a lot to say. He was there for some major Beastie Boys recordings, hanging out and hitting record for many years. He was a major player, probably one of the biggest other than the boys themselves.

Not only did he just hit record, he set up the mics and the studio, which is a huge contribution in and of itself. He also made beats with them, found and looped samples with them, wrote songs with them (more than anybody else I think?) and even sang "fucked up vocals" on... I'm blanking on the song, I know it's off CYH... maybe SGTG(?)... ALL of that is huge.

Even though I agree with everybody saying "the book is the book..." i do feel leaving his voice out completely was an odd choice. Same goes for $Mark. I bet he'd have had a story or two. Even an interjectiomn that'd have been worth reading.

However if you dig around the webs you can find a lot of interviews and articles about Mario's take on recording/producing/engineering/mixing the BBoys. It's all been said already. So what do I know?

FWIW, I'd also would have LOVED to hear what DJ Double R had to say. In the same way Kate got to have her say (which is one of my favorite parts of the book.)

But whatevs. I LOVE the book. Keep it on the toilet and read it often. Been looking forward to grabbing the audio book one of these days and deep diving into that experience.

[Micodin]

But whatevs. I LOVE the book. Keep it on the toilet and read it often. Been looking forward to grabbing the audio book one of these days and deep diving into that experience.

i did the trifecta when it came out. book, audiobook and ebook. the audiobook is great for long car/plane rides (and it has extra treats in it) and the ebook is great for the phone and iPad to follow along or for the backpack (and it’s less bulkier) and i too agree the book is great for the toilet haha. lots of quick stories in there.

speaking of books, Glen E Friedman’s new book Together Forever is out and holy shit is it good. there’s a ton of pics i’ve never seen before and it makes a great addition to the Beastie books collection. but i’m sure someone will find something to whinge about lols.

[Laver1969]

I’ll add a couple of points. I attended the LA book event and Mario was there. I spoke to him real briefly and said I wished he had a little feature/article/story in the book. He replied with how they had enough folks involved and seemed perfectly fine with it.

Also- for anyone who hasn’t gotten the audiobook- there’s something magical about hearing Adam and Mike tell their stories. Some of the guest readers worked great and some not so much. Highly recommend!

[Jiberish]

I’ll add a couple of points. I attended the LA book event and Mario was there. I spoke to him real briefly and said I wished he had a little feature/article/story in the book. He replied with how they had enough folks involved and seemed perfectly fine with it.

cool. Good to hear.

I'd love to read a whole book by Mario. His personal story coming up, buying up gear, partnering with $mark etc. it's a great American success story, for sure. And he has so many pearls of wisdom about studio techniques across all the bands he's worked with.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Also- for anyone who hasn’t gotten the audiobook- there’s something magical about hearing Adam and Mike tell their stories. Some of the guest readers worked great and some not so much. Highly recommend!

Agree. Mixmaster Mike's section is 50 times better when you listen to him read it over that bugged out beat.

[Jiberish]

Agree. Mixmaster Mike's section is 50 times better when you listen to him read it over that bugged out beat.

Sweet. I've been wondering if there was music in the audio book. READING the book felt like listening to a new album (to me) so I can only imagine listening to them tell the stories with occasional beats is even better.

[Brother McDuff]

i listen to the audio book nearly monthly, every time im in nyc for work. its fantastic. however i do always skip the MMM and Roy Choi sections. the cookie puss bit is a bit longwinded and unnecessary as well. i feel these interjections work alot better as extra treats in the book format, but not so much as audio excerpts..

[Eoin MCL]

Just to add regarding their friendship with Mario C. Mario appeared on Mike D’s Echo Chamber Hello Nasty Anniversary show last year, so I’d imagine they’re still all good with him! Here’s a link to a recording I made of the episode. Hopefully Mike wouldn’t mind me sharing it with you guys! Well worth a listen!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlullh4f3p1mg7a/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Hello%20Nasty%2020th%20Anniversary.m4a?dl=0

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Just to add regarding their friendship with Mario C. Mario appeared on Mike D’s Echo Chamber Hello Nasty Anniversary show last year, so I’d imagine they’re still all good with him! Here’s a link to a recording I made of the episode. Hopefully Mike wouldn’t mind me sharing it with you guys! Well worth a listen!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlullh4f3p1mg7a/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Hello%20Nasty%2020th%20Anniversary.m4a?dl=0

That was dope, thanks!

[Jiberish]

Just to add regarding their friendship with Mario C. Mario appeared on Mike D’s Echo Chamber Hello Nasty Anniversary show last year, so I’d imagine they’re still all good with him! Here’s a link to a recording I made of the episode. Hopefully Mike wouldn’t mind me sharing it with you guys! Well worth a listen!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlullh4f3p1mg7a/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Hello%20Nasty%2020th%20Anniversary.m4a?dl=0

Thanks for sharing!

[Eoin MCL]

Here’s the episode with Ad-Rock from the time of the book launch if ye are interested! Those are the only 2 I’ve got, but I can take requests and try and do some more in future if I get a little free time!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7kqv4r7pwlvakm/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Ad-Rock.m4a?dl=0

[brmanuk]

Here’s the episode with Ad-Rock from the time of the book launch if ye are interested! Those are the only 2 I’ve got, but I can take requests and try and do some more in future if I get a little free time!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7kqv4r7pwlvakm/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Ad-Rock.m4a?dl=0

Thanks so much for these! If you have

[M|X|Y]

yes.. thank so much for these. my first listen of the echo chamber made possible by you(y)

[Jiberish]

Thanks so much for these! If you have

Brmanuk, every time I see you pst, and see where you are from I can't help but say to myself " This one's for NEWCASTLE, Where Venom come from!"

That's all.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Here’s the episode with Ad-Rock from the time of the book launch if ye are interested! Those are the only 2 I’ve got, but I can take requests and try and do some more in future if I get a little free time!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7kqv4r7pwlvakm/Echo%20Chamber%20-%20Ad-Rock.m4a?dl=0

I want to hear the Q-Tip one! I need to try to figure out how to get these in my car.

[Brother McDuff]

oh yeah, Q-Tip episode please! :o

[ClarenceAlabama]

LL Cool J interviewing the Beastie Boys from Jan 2019 is up on demand now if you missed it... it was really good:

https://player.siriusxm.com/now-playing

You don't have to be a subscriber to hear it.

[Eoin MCL]

I want to hear the Q-Tip one! I need to try to figure out how to get these in my car.

Ask and you shall receive! I made this one an mp3 so maybe it'll be easier to use in the car, as I find that's definitely the best place to listen to these! Bonus artwork included too.

I might move this sort of thing to PMs in future if there is interest. I keep an Apple Music subscription instead of Spotify just for Mike's show and I highly recommend it, but I do miss some Spotify features and the Apple Music UI isn't always the best, but it's improving.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vaneyaev1a1i4cz/AAAeLoE35cien28MjH8ceuKca?dl=0

[tt5brevisited]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vaneyaev1a1i4cz/AAAeLoE35cien28MjH8ceuKca?dl=0

(y) Thanks!

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Ask and you shall receive! I made this one an mp3 so maybe it'll be easier to use in the car, as I find that's definitely the best place to listen to these! Bonus artwork included too.

I might move this sort of thing to PMs in future if there is interest. I keep an Apple Music subscription instead of Spotify just for Mike's show and I highly recommend it, but I do miss some Spotify features and the Apple Music UI isn't always the best, but it's improving.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vaneyaev1a1i4cz/AAAeLoE35cien28MjH8ceuKca?dl=0

Oh man. Thanks!!!!!!!!