amsterdam show.... publicity stop or stunt?

[sounddust]

yo admin....

even if this whole publicity stop story is for real (i don't blame the boys themselves)
the people representing them overhere turned it into a publicity STUNT!
i mean....even if it's not a real tour, people (the fans) wanna be able to see the boys...even if they would do just one song...
it's the whole idea behind it, and this seems to be an strategy which the industry is gonna use more often from now on. (n.e.r.d. concert went down the same way this februari, also at 'de melkweg' venue) sucks.

spreading the hype and tryin' to get people to pay to enter all sorts of competitions with which they can win 'the last' tickets.

givin' away more then 90% of all tickets on forehand to record industry people?? why?? please explain this part of the campaign.

a concert should be for the fans, and everyone should get a fair chance to get tickets....

to promote your product ofcourse you need a marketingplan, but this stunt was not the compagnies brightest concept ever!!!
all it did was piss-off the larger amount of beastie boys fans in holland!

[tpk]

i agree with you in one sense. it is kind of harsh to make all these people believe they will be able to see their favorite band live and then end up with no tickets.

okay so that is kind of sad.

but my advice for everybody is, never get your hopes up too much for these events. they ARE publicity events and not everyone is going to be the lucky ones. and if you really really want to see them, you always can by realizing how many ticktes being on sale and going to the venue say 10 hours before sales start.

if you know that 200 tickets are for sale and you know that about 5000 people are wanting to see them..the chance of getting to see them yourself depends on how important it is for you. and if you end up not getting a ticket you shouldn't complain cause you should have been prepared for it.

and those 200 people who are getting a ticket are getting it as a gesture in one way. cause like it's been said a thousand times. it's a publicity tour, for record companies, journalists.

[sounddust]

thanks for the reply,

i know all of this, but next time maybe if it's promotional only, the venue should even be smaller and they should sell no tickets at all, so it will be more obvious that it's not for the fans but just for industry people.

i got a ticket in the end......100 euro thou... :o

[hN3]

name a smaller and professional venue in Amsterdam ...

im glad i got the opportunity to get these tickets
beastie boys threw a party like this in 1992 in Paradiso and hardly no fans there only some press peepz and alot of Americans .. is this the way?

when you really wanted them , you would have get those tickets

there were people lying in front of the melkweg entrance and those peepz got their tickets

you sound a bit bitter in my opinion

[sounddust]

the 1992 paradiso concert was a regular concert even thou it sold out in 2 days, i could easily get tickets the 1st day after sale started.

they could play at jimmy woo for instance or some mtv studio...
i'm not bitter, i just don't see any logic in this campaign.
what's the use of 600 industrypeople seeing the beastieboys?
they not gonna buy the album anyway....

[AimeScier]

They should have made a free concert somewhere...

[elcastel]

name a smaller and professional venue in Amsterdam ...

beastie boys threw a party like this in 1992 in Paradiso and hardly no fans there only some press peepz and alot of Americans .. is this the way?

:D
No way man, i got my tickets easily for Paradiso in 1992, and a friend of mine had them the second day. I have also spoken lots of real fans, who took that concert. There were no probs at all, maybe a quick sellout, but there were many many Dutch people.
:D

[hN3]

maybe you mean Paradiso in 1994?

[tpk]

yeah paradiso 1994 was a regular gig.

paradiso 92 i guess, was what HN3 is talking about.

anyway. this has been discussed to many times. i don't get why people are upset.

i think it's terrible that people end up buying tickets for 100 euros. that's the only thing that upsets me. but like i said, if you really wanted a ticket for that show you could have gotten one easily by being one of the first to the venue.

peace.

[Niann-Tsyr]

Exactly! If I had the money (on which point I don't, studentlife sucks sometimes :mad: ) I would be sleeping in a sleepingbag at the Melkweg on Wednesdaynight making sure I would get two tix. Dragging my personal bodyguard with me (bf) :P I remember waiting in line early in the morn for Blurtix once. Early birds are the diehards :) Except for those no good blackmarkettixseller :mad:

[elcastel]

maybe you mean Paradiso in 1994?
Was it ?
:eek:
I can't remember, brain damage, it was okay.
(Check your Head tour ??)

[elcastel]

yeah paradiso 1994 was a regular gig.

paradiso 92 i guess, was what HN3 is talking about.

anyway. this has been discussed to many times. i don't get why people are upset.

i think it's terrible that people end up buying tickets for 100 euros. that's the only thing that upsets me. but like i said, if you really wanted a ticket for that show you could have gotten one easily by being one of the first to the venue.

peace.
Amen.

[SleeveZipper]

thanks for the reply,

i know all of this, but next time maybe if it's promotional only, the venue should even be smaller and they should sell no tickets at all, so it will be more obvious that it's not for the fans but just for industry people.


i agree, i dont like this semi-promotional shit. This girl first in line (she w8ed from 7 to 12 at the postoffice) bursted in tears when she couldnt get a ticket. I kinda prepared myself that i wouldnt get a ticket, but to some it might hurt a lot. I think the Melkweg or whoever is resposible for this under estimated the Beastie popularity or just cannot place themselves in someone elses mind.
But after all, its life, and it does suck sometimes. I think it is very stupid and also annoying but i dont think such of a big fuss should be made. In the end, they probably would only play like 40 minutes.
And besides, there will probably be a big tour in bigger venues like the HeinekenMusicHall, and that will be a full length show...

So people, sneak ya fuckin handy cams in and record that shit somehow.

Peace out, Frieden Aus, Vrede uit

Sleeve,

[BeastieBoys.com]

I know this won't make anyone feel all that much better, but...

Over 500 tickets were sold to the public. We gave away 20 tickets on this site...

This is a tough thing because we know that MANY more people wanted to go.

These are not full-blown performances. They are small events that are just shows to warm up for the record release and upcoming tour. They are also to give press people something to write about to help promote the new record.

Please know that the tour will include some great shows in larger venues where everyone will get to go. And you can bet we'll be giving tickets away here on Beastieboys.com, and setting up some presales for these shows.

Your faithfull web-bot

[sea_dragon]

Maybe it's a better idea to just have contests and giveaways when there's such a limited number of tickets? That way people won't waste hours waiting in line only to learn it sold out in the first few seconds...

[BeastieBoys.com]

Maybe it's a better idea to just have contests and giveaways when there's such a limited number of tickets? That way people won't waste hours waiting in line only to learn it sold out in the first few seconds...

I wish that were our choice, because I agree with you.

[fonky pizza]

Beasties warming up? I am the Parisian coach.... :cool: I gotta be there :D

[fonky pizza]

Apparently some people from this message board have been invited, at least that's what they told me...are they working for press or such??

I don't, I'd simply like to be invited. :)

[SleeveZipper]

haha ^^^push your fuckin luck :)

[fonky pizza]

I think it's great fun to try :D

[maestro]

Apparently some people from this message board have been invited, at least that's what they told me...are they working for press or such??

I don't, I'd simply like to be invited. :)

Like who? The administrators? Well I think that's the least they can do for them. Why is everyone so damn jealous? If I win a ticket to the Stockholm show I would be really happy, if I don't win then so be it. I'm not demanding the boys to let all the fans in to their promotional tour. I think it's big of them that they let some of us in. And sure I agree to whoever said that it would be better if all the tickets were given out in contests and so on, instead of selling them like that.

But there will be a real tour as you all know, and I'm sure that most people will have a chance to see the boys later this year.

[PaddyBoy]

it's a publicity tour, for record companies, journalists.

For record companies? why?

[PaddyBoy]

Music is a commodity for the selling. Capitol Records won't get paid if the Beastie Boys don't sell records. The more they push the release to the journalists, the better the album will sell.

Yeah, I know but he said "for record companies" not Capitol. Didn't make sense...thats what he probably meant though.

[fonky pizza]

You're on the wrong track maestro, I'm not talking about moderators and such and simply having fun. I am far from being jealous about not seeing the beastie boys, I saw them many times and met almost all of them and i hope I'll got to see them again!!! :D :D :D

[Parkey]

Maybe it's a better idea to just have contests and giveaways when there's such a limited number of tickets? That way people won't waste hours waiting in line only to learn it sold out in the first few seconds...
That's very true mate and was the only way to get hold of them for the London show. None of this ticket buying bollocks that results in such abject dissapointment

[synch]

Maybe it's a better idea to just have contests and giveaways when there's such a limited number of tickets? That way people won't waste hours waiting in line only to learn it sold out in the first few seconds...

Hi there, just registered after coming home from the concert.

I'd like to clear up something about the ticket sale that may have been cleared up already making this one of those redundant first-posts :D

The tickets that were sold out in three seconds were the ones being sold at the post offices/GWK agencies etc (ticket-box).

The Melkweg ticket office had 200 tickets, ticket-box had less than that.

There were people who slept in front of the door, and people (like me) that went there first thing in the morning. I waited five hours (from 07:00 to 12:00) but got my tickets easily. A school mate of a friend of mine got there at 10:00 and the last tickets were sold to someone that was two or three places in front of him.

It was far from impossible to get tickets but you did have to put some effort in.

[maestro]

You're on the wrong track maestro, I'm not talking about moderators and such and simply having fun. I am far from being jealous about not seeing the beastie boys, I saw them many times and met almost all of them and i hope I'll got to see them again!!! :D :D :D

Yeah I kind of understand that now, and the jealousy thing wasn't really directed to you personally, I think there has been too many posts with peoples complaining lately. BUt sure I understand some of the things that has been said.

[fonky pizza]

I'll be there!!!!! I pre-bought the album at Colette's today and I am on the Colette-Capitol guest list.
For a total of 27 Euro which is like as special price show+album

[Pai Mei]

I think the Melkweg or whoever is resposible for this under estimated the Beastie popularity or just cannot place themselves in someone elses mind.
Sleeve,


Just out of curiosity.....who actually is responsible for the way in which the tickets are divided? Don't mean anything by the qeustion, just curious.