What happened to Tibet?

[spica09]

I have been a fan for years. You made me pay attention to Tibet. What happened to the Tibetan Freedom cause by the way. I disagree with some of your political views today, but I did not hold that against you until I read some of the interviews. I will not single anyone of you out, but you sound like 16 year old children speaking. Give me a break. Stick to Tibet.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I have been a fan for years. You made me pay attention to Tibet. What happened to the Tibetan Freedom cause by the way. I disagree with some of your political views today, but I did not hold that against you until I read some of the interviews. I will not single anyone of you out, but you sound like 16 year old children speaking. Give me a break. Stick to Tibet.

Ask your elected representative and go to the www.milarepa.org website which Beastie Boys help create. By the way Tibet freedom is not Beastie Boys sole responsibility (it's a interest of theirs and many other people) - don't forget they are artists first and foremost.
LP's entirely about Tibet's plight would get pretty boring after awhile. Thank goodness you are not their manager.

[seurat]

Free Tibet dropped to 110 on the Billboard chart, so they turned to Diss Bush, which is currently #1. Sadly, if the B-boys spent as much on their music, as they do bitching about Bush, we the loyal fans could have had two albums since Hello Nasty, not to mention an even better TT5B. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties, but I could care less about their political views. I became a fan because of their musical talent. Unfortunately, most celebrities think we "common folk" need to be smothered with their profound, political wisdom. If they want to make a statement, then run for office or DJ tofu barbeques at Berkeley. They are amazing artists and that's all I'm interested in.

[paece!-man]

Free Tibet dropped to 110 on the Billboard chart, so they turned to Diss Bush, which is currently #1. Sadly, if the B-boys spent as much on their music, as they do bitching about Bush, we the loyal fans could have had two albums since Hello Nasty, not to mention an even better TT5B. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties, but I could care less about their political views. I became a fan because of their musical talent. Unfortunately, most celebrities think we "common folk" need to be smothered with their profound, political wisdom. If they want to make a statement, then run for office or DJ tofu barbeques at Berkeley. They are amazing artists and that's all I'm interested in.


It's okay that you only are interested in their music, but what would be if every celebrity would just do what he is known for? What about AIDS? AIDS is just in mind because some famous and not gay people got injured and said it officially. To come back to the B-Boys and George Bush it's important to tell the folk what goes on. If media fails, someone else has to inform.

A poll showed that 60% of the asked people (80% of Fox News watchers) thought that at least one of the following points is right: There are improved connections between Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein, there are mass destruction weapons in Iraq and the international community supports the Iraq-war.
But none of this points is right (if they would be right the German media would informed us).

And now tell me if they should just do music and shut up or if they should make you think about system you live in.

[seurat]

Jesus, was that an opinion or a talking points memo. If you think the Beasties are informing an ignorant world, but everyone else is insane, that's exactly the type of unilateral thinking they supposedly are bitching about. The B-boys can talk about whatever they like, but just dont be suprised if many dont give a damn for obvious reasons. As far as Iraq, I'd question your media's motives before you shoot down all those reasons to go to war. For one, Saddam Hussein should have been brought to justice for crimes against humanity after the first gulf war. That's a nobrainer, but the international community didn't do it. How ironic is it, that now, after his capture, the world agrees with the fact he should be tried. As for ties to Bin Laden...I dont think he had direct ties with Bin laden. But being he called for the destruction of Israel and the US many times, and the fact he sponsored bombers against Israel, the man had ties to many extremist islamic groups, including Al Qaeda, which have been captured in Iraq. And as for the WMDs, nope they havent all been found, for whatever reasons. Maybe they're being hidden in Syria, Iran, or just hard to find in a country as large as California. But we knew he used them on his own people, not all were accounted for after the first gulf war, and recently a bomb with Sarin exploded in Iraq. Now just imagine if that exploded in a New York subway or Berlin. But the real question is, why would a man with billions of dollars and a country at his disposal, refuse inspections, if he truly had nothing to hide, only to end up living like a rat in a hole in the ground. And most importantly, why is freedom ok for you and me, but not for the Iraqis, who have had women and children raped and tortured under him. It seems like those who oppose this war, more than anything, have an ax to grind against America or Bush, instead of addressing the issue at hand. And as long as this message is, is the exact reason I don't want to hear politics from the Beasties. It gets old and people rarely change their minds.

[TicketScalper]

Wow,

I like this seurat gay, cause HE'S ON IT!

[dirtydan11]

If I was a famous person and I had a sick fuck for a president I think I would voice my opinion, too.

[seurat]

Just the fact you're calling him a sick fuck, with zero respect or truth, shows you're the one that's Ill. But for your sake, I'll pretend that's just a canadian thing. The problem is, some people are so misinformed, they are completely out of touch. Even if I hated any of our presidents, past or present, I wouldn't call them a sick fuck. I'm sure having a family and being a religious man makes him just that. That is, because you don't agree with him. But then again, there are those that compare him to Hitler. You can't be much more out of touch than that. It's sad when such insane propoganda becomes the truth for people, especially in today's day and age. Like I said..unilateral thinking...people need to use common sense. Bush may not be a a good president, but he's not a sick fuck. Thats the exact kind of brainwashing the Nazis used in teaching their people it was ok to kill jews. Maybe you should shoot Bush, it sounds justified? So sad.

[King Schmaltz]

Just the fact you're calling him a sick fuck, with zero respect or truth, shows you're the one that's Ill. But for your sake, I'll pretend that's just a canadian thing. The problem is, some people are so misinformed, they are completely out of touch. Even if I hated any of our presidents, past or present, I wouldn't call them a sick fuck. I'm sure having a family and being a religious man makes him just that. That is, because you don't agree with him. But then again, there are those that compare him to Hitler. You can't be much more out of touch than that. It's sad when such insane propoganda becomes the truth for people, especially in today's day and age. Like I said..unilateral thinking...people need to use common sense. Bush may not be a a good president, but he's not a sick fuck. Thats the exact kind of brainwashing the Nazis used in teaching their people it was ok to kill jews. Maybe you should shoot Bush, it sounds justified? So sad.

I'd like to know why you think Bush is DESERVING of respect? What did he ever do for anyone other than his special interest groups? I find it ironic that to a degree you're defending Bush and telling dirtydan that he's not respecting truth. The Bush administration has lied to the public on numerous occations over the course of the past three years, hence the dissatisfaction of many, many people (Beasties included).

Stay away from Nazi brainwashing comparisons, will ya? You have no clue what you're talking about (other than regurgitating Sean Hannity's rap).

[seurat]

They have lied? And how exactly so? Are we talking Clinton type of lying...no, that wouldn't right. Or are we talking about that which we label "lying" because we don't agree with someone's policy? And as far as special interest, that has nothing to do with this arguement, except that you're obviously biased. Naturally, you wouldn't know Kerry has taken more special interest money than anyone else in Congress. Hell, every politician in the past 50 years is dirty with it. But this isn't a Republican, Democrat debate, it's a BS debate which you so kindly have added too. And no, I don't listen to Sean Hannity, nor am I a Republican. But if you sit idly by, as people call Bush a sick fuck or even a Nazi, let alone just agree with it, then you are out of touch and brainwashed. Just like that which caused millions of Jews to be murdered, whether you like it or not. Or must I pass your censorship to say that. Pass the dutch money, cause you're living in a dream world. My first post was simply an opinion..if i may have one..about mixing music and politics, which too many blew out into a leftist frenzy.

[seurat]

Peace out y'all..long live the Beasties..political or not! I'd much rather be listening to PB.

[King Schmaltz]

I don't agree with the "sick fuck" comment because it's childish and does nothing to further a discussion. But how can you discount Bush's blatant bowing down to special interests as just biased blather? Kerry hasn't set policy based on special interests; bush has.

We're talking straight-up lying. Presenting false information about the war, the environmnet, about social policies and a liteny of other topics as fact (when they aren't), or withholding information merely to push-through his own agenda. That is lying and decieving his constituancy.

I'm not a hard leftist; if anything I veer closer to libertarianism. But I read a lot and form my own opinions. Bush is by far a worse chose than Kerry. Don't know what your point is. If anything, Bush's dishonesty is far closer to the Nazi propaganda than pro-Kerry media. Read up on the medicare propaganda that they were recently censured for.

Actual facts!

[Bradleystp]

I'd like to know why you think Bush is DESERVING of respect? What did he ever do for anyone other than his special interest groups? I find it ironic that to a degree you're defending Bush and telling dirtydan that he's not respecting truth. The Bush administration has lied to the public on numerous occations over the course of the past three years, hence the dissatisfaction of many, many people (Beasties included).

Stay away from Nazi brainwashing comparisons, will ya? You have no clue what you're talking about (other than regurgitating Sean Hannity's rap).

I really don't want to get into political debate about Bush again, but people just seem to think that we should blindly follow and respect whatever he says just because he is the current president. These people cannot be persuaded otherwise, because they are sheep. They follow the herd, and don't question anything. These people cannot think for themselves, and let goverment make their decisions for them. What they are allowed to see, hear, read, and say.

I mean, Bush has been caught lying REPEATEDLY. He has been caught in Enron scandals, in voting fraud, in giving tax cuts for his rich friends, in hiding evidence for 9/11, information manipulation, cutting back of all environmental protections so his oil and energy buddies get a break....the list goes on and on. Then add on the nonsense in Iraq, the 'patriot act" (or the loss of rights of all Americans, whatever you would like to call it), High unemployment rates, biggest deficit in history, and rising Health Care costs, and what do you have. A bad President. A Liar. A Cheat. A Fraud.

I personally think he has made a mockery of the American political system, and has made America much scarier and more likely to be hit with terrorism than ever before. What he has done has not helped to stop terrorism, it has helped it grow. There are more terrorist groups now then before we started the war on terror. And they are growing. Half of the world hates us. Time to kick his ass out.

And as for the Beastie Boys, I applaud them in their efforts to make a difference. You don't like what they are saying, "hit eject".

[Bradleystp]

They have lied? And how exactly so? Are we talking Clinton type of lying...no, that wouldn't right. Or are we talking about that which we label "lying" because we don't agree with someone's policy?

No, we aren't talking about lying about a blowjob, we are talking about lying about things that AFFECT THE LIVES OF AMERICANS! Sending people off to war and stuff, not how much semen was on a dress.

And, I have to ask, if you don't want musicians to talk about the issues, and you don't want actors or actresses to talk about the issues, and you can't put any trust in Michael Moore, or anyone who agrees with the 'Evil Left Wing', who do you want to come out and speak against things? This is something I will never understand. People saying that the entertainment industry shouldn't voice their opinions. Well, then, who should? You want them to just shut their mouths and agree with everything our goverment does? That sounds kinda communist to me.

[dirtydan11]

Just the fact you're calling him a sick fuck, with zero respect or truth, shows you're the one that's Ill. But for your sake, I'll pretend that's just a canadian thing. The problem is, some people are so misinformed, they are completely out of touch. Even if I hated any of our presidents, past or present, I wouldn't call them a sick fuck. I'm sure having a family and being a religious man makes him just that. That is, because you don't agree with him. But then again, there are those that compare him to Hitler. You can't be much more out of touch than that. It's sad when such insane propoganda becomes the truth for people, especially in today's day and age. Like I said..unilateral thinking...people need to use common sense. Bush may not be a a good president, but he's not a sick fuck. Thats the exact kind of brainwashing the Nazis used in teaching their people it was ok to kill jews. Maybe you should shoot Bush, it sounds justified? So sad.

Hey man I honestly think he is a sick fuck. It's not a Canadian thing. Why would you pretend that? I am my own man so don't stereotype Canadians. You think I'm brainwashed? You don't make much sense comparing Nazi propaganda to people's opinions of the president. You're no better than any other by calling me ill or brainwashed. Did these ramblings get you through your essays in college because i don't think your impressing anyone. Please go to the political threads and stop yer preachin' here. :p

[Rich Cheney]

Peace out y'all..long live the Beasties..political or not! I'd much rather be listening to PB.

Right on.

[Space]

just vote for nader ...

[Bradleystp]

No thanks....My vote may not count for much, but I would like it to count for something.

[twoturntables]

Free Tibet dropped to 110 on the Billboard chart, so they turned to Diss Bush, which is currently #1. Sadly, if the B-boys spent as much on their music, as they do bitching about Bush, we the loyal fans could have had two albums since Hello Nasty, not to mention an even better TT5B. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties, but I could care less about their political views. I became a fan because of their musical talent. Unfortunately, most celebrities think we "common folk" need to be smothered with their profound, political wisdom. If they want to make a statement, then run for office or DJ tofu barbeques at Berkeley. They are amazing artists and that's all I'm interested in.

To begin to say your not interested in hearing someones opinion then give your own is foul, rediculous, hypocritical, and typical of the blind leading the dumb.

I would far more rather at least give an open minded listen to other open minded individuals who have had the life time experience of traveling the world communicating with ALL peoples than a random, think they know what they are talking about, blind as hell to the truth and facts, internet puke.

Word to herb.

[dechen]

So I think the original poster made a valid point. What happened to the BB and their work for Tibet? It would be nice to see ongoing involvement with the Milarepa Fund.

Just because you take on another cause (i.e. bush) does not mean you have to drop another.

om mani peme hum!

[spica09]

It is funny how they seem to have dropped the cause. What is the difference between Sadam and the Chinese government. What do they propose we do to Free Tibet? Say please stop.
I also remember when Clinton blew the Tibetan cause off after the concert in D.C.

[FuzzyBeastie]

all i know about bush is that he choked on a pretzel, dropped his dog and tripped on a scooter, so i think i'll keep my mouth shut in this thread.

[dr.moogle]

sad fact of th matter is if celebs don't say something (right or wrong) the general public won't listen. wheteher any cares to admit it or not, our country is obsessed with celebrities and not politicians.
what i find so surpriseing is the unanimous rise directly against Bush. Usually folks are bit more discreet with their political displeasures. but not this time around.
furthermore i don't care one way or another about what the bboys rap about a slong as it flows, but one has to admit they are clever with the political ryhmes . makes for a good song whatever the case-it's almost like battle rappin' but instead of a DJ a politician.
but yeah there's about a jillion other countries commiting mad crimes against their own and i don't see us running to their aid. but i argue ethics not politics. :cool:

[sunfear]

Let us take a moment to say "Om" and calm. Everyone has a right to their point of view and all are valid. We are all Buddhas in our own natures, some have yet to come to this, but their Buddha-nature is infinite and will arise one day.

The Beastie Boys spread Dharma with thier songs. They do not have to speak of Tibet to keep it in the minds of the people. Instead their songs will always bring Dharma to the people and help resolve Kharma.

[5element]

Hi everybody! :D Just so you know the Beasties generated a lot of Tibet awareness! But they would lose alot of fans if all they talked about was Tibet, so they talk about other things they feel are important too ie. Bush. However, wven when they are not directly speaking about Tibet, the Beasties still practice Dharma! and that is what most Tibetans would want them to do, spread the Dharma. (y)

Om Mani PAdme Hum!!!!

[zorra_chiflada]

this thread is a whole lotta lame.
"boo hoo, the beastie boys have political opinons and i don't agree with them"
get over it.

[cj hood]

Free Tibet dropped to 110 on the Billboard chart, so they turned to Diss Bush, which is currently #1. Sadly, if the B-boys spent as much on their music, as they do bitching about Bush, we the loyal fans could have had two albums since Hello Nasty, not to mention an even better TT5B. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties, but I could care less about their political views. I became a fan because of their musical talent. Unfortunately, most celebrities think we "common folk" need to be smothered with their profound, political wisdom. If they want to make a statement, then run for office or DJ tofu barbeques at Berkeley. They are amazing artists and that's all I'm interested in.


can't believe it took over a year to find this.....preach on bro!