I'M A BIG FAN, BUT THIS ALBUM SUCKS!!

[boogie b]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique." But this album shows no creativity. The same delivery on all tracks. Most tracks aren't even 3 min. long. The only song I really dig is because of a Sugarhill gang sample. I am truly dissapointed in this album. This sucks. Maybe I'm old. But the whole we're retro and having fun shit is a cop out. I guess they need to get paid. Any thoughts?

Peace,

[King Schmaltz]

thanks for sharing. Next!

[pip07]

my thought is I disagree.

[adrock1988]

Guess you feel alone in a dark hole somewhere cause this album is well how should I put it, GREAT..... You must actually hate Licensed and Pauls if you dont like TT5B's

[King Schmaltz]

I think The Onion's review surmises a lot of why I feel the album rocks hard:

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=21656

[meng]

I thought it sucked the first time I heard it but it just keeps better and better after every listen.

If you love the Beastie Boys you should really listen to this album a few more times.

[timrobblee]

the album should be gettin sucked cause it's so dope!

[ExplodiblEolio]

I can see where you are coming from, none the less after 6 or 7 listens the album has grown on me. Yes it is missing some of the energy from previous albums but check the ryhmes.

[rab]

The same delivery on all tracks

not the case

[Justin]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique." But this album shows no creativity. The same delivery on all tracks. Most tracks aren't even 3 min. long. The only song I really dig is because of a Sugarhill gang sample. I am truly dissapointed in this album. This sucks. Maybe I'm old. But the whole we're retro and having fun shit is a cop out. I guess they need to get paid. Any thoughts?

Peace,

The headphones go on your ears not on your neck dufus (n)

[cookiepuss]

Sorry man, but beasties can do no wrong in my book. So they didn't come out with some crazy new sound this time, boo hoo. Listen to it a few more times...Lyrically they are just as creative as always. For a group that has made evolutionary leaps and bounds with almost every album it's no surprise that they should settle down with thier roots and produce something that is familiar. They've proven thier versatility already!

[makaveli89]

i dont even need to read any posts in this thread after lookin at the thread name. All you fools who dont like the album should be put in a room and shot.

[sharp_cheddar]

:eek: Are you kidding me? this has to be the greatest album they've put out so far. Paul's Boutique WAS good but i'd have to say that this was better, thats just my opinion but i dont see how you cant like this.

[kll]

obviously, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the beastie boys are artists who create and produce. this is like telling a painter that his painting sucks. this album came from them and it's up for interpretation and acceptance, but i don't think it's fair to say it sucks. you may not like it, understand it or appreciate it, but accept it for what it is.

[QueenAdrock]

I thought it sucked the first time I heard it but it just keeps better and better after every listen.

If you love the Beastie Boys you should really listen to this album a few more times.


Exactly. I was comparing it to their last album, Hello Nasty, and was like "this isn't as cool!" but then after a few rounds I realized it had its own awesomely outrageous uniqueness that still kicks ass in its own way.

[paul jones]

TT5B is making me happy every day!!!!

give it a few more listens and don't compare it to other albums

that is the wrong approach on giving artists critisism

[burbboi]

Dude...listen to it. Then listen to it again. Perhaps listen to it back to front afterwards...then again. This album does grow on you. My favorite song on the album has changed 4 times in the last week alone.



"Like gravy to potatoes, Luke to Darth Vader, i'm a souped up sucker and i'll see you all lataaaa..."

[coffinitup]

TT5B is making me happy every day!!!!

give it a few more listens and don't compare it to other albums

that is the wrong approach on giving artists critisism

Well said! (y)

[mca47]

i personally think it is one of their best.

[Beastietim86]

Theres no way this album matches LTI, PB, CYH, or IC but it is still a good album and at least for me, the more i listened To It, the more i liked it.

[bstgrl]

I always think, ya know they could've done better, on this album, said it about ill communication and hello nasty, and this one too. But you know which are my favorite Beastie albums now, you've guessed it, Hello Nasty and Ill Communication. Pauls Boutique is everyone's favorite, but had no real meaningful lyrics to it. They are so much more than that now.

[Loppfessor]

TT5B is making me happy every day!!!!

give it a few more listens and don't compare it to other albums

that is the wrong approach on giving artists critisism


I'm with you too. The first time I listened to it I was left with a kind of "that's it?" feeling? I had been rockin all the old albums in the days leading up to the release of the new one as I usually do, and I found myself comparing TT5B to the others. On one had I feel like it has a generic, mass produced, feeling to it. On the other I think it's a very good straight up hip hop album that keeps me awake at my desk all day which is always a plus. TT5B didn't jump out at me and instantly grab my attention but it is definitely growing on me the more I listen to it.

[grndzlm]

I'm lovin this cd...i haven't heard true hip hop in years...most stuff coming out these days is just crap. This cd has great beats, great rhymes and a solid nyc ol' skool sound. I listen to it on my way to work every day.

[jjdun2]

My advice would be to ease back with a few cool Millers, or whatever your drink of choice is, and listen to it with the CD cover open. I, personally, loved it top to bottom, from the get-go but, after listening to it while reading the lyrics, it's even better--they're tight as hell and rival "Paul's Boutique" in creativity.

[Nerd Fight]

I read that Onion review, and it said something I totally thhought but no-one here has said yet - - 5 Boroughs sounds really similar to Missy Elliott's Under Construction....check out tracks like Gossip Folks, Work It, Slide, especially Hot, and Funky Fresh Dressed.....seriously, they're like twins.
Not that this is bad, I know the Beatsies admire some of Missy Elliott's tracks.

[egg-raid]

oh how wrong you are! if you truly are a B-Boy fan you would understand that every album they put out is different and needs time to blossom in your soul. they are in fact hip-hop engineers, building new skylines for other to learn from. good job boys, once again!!!

[KevG]

I like the album more than I did a week ago but it still isn't the masterpiece I expected. After "Hello Nasty", I thought they would have come even stronger. The rhymes are for the most part good, but some of the beats aren't. I think they could have made a few of the weaker beats work had they added something to it. They are beyond Casio type beats (as witnessed on their last CD). Why did they go that route this time around? They might as well had put "In a World Gone Mad" on here too...

This is also weird:

Why is "Time to Build" & "3 The Hard Way" so far down?

12. An Open Letter To NYC - 12.28%
6. Triple Trouble - 10.82%
5. Rhyme The Rhyme Well - 9.18%
1. Ch-Check It Out - 8.60%
2. Right Right Now Now - 7.85%

8. Oh Word? - 6.78%
7. Hey Fuck You - 6.30%
3. 3 The Hard Way - 6.21%
14. The Brouhaha - 5.85%
13. Crawlspace - 5.32%

4. Time To Build - 4.70%
11. Shazam! - 4.70%
9. That's It That's All - 4.61%
10. All Life Styles - 3.86%
15. We Got The - 2.93%

[BeastyGurl]

Maybe, and this is just a thought, but are you sure that you aren't the one who sucks. I've listened to all their albums, sure it's not the best, but the Beasties can do no wrong. They rock, I love "hey fuck you". and maybe you aren't as big as a fan as you thought. This disc won't leave my stereo for a cupple of monthes at least.

[meng]

The new album hasn't sunk in yet for some of you.

[MIGHTYMIGHTY]

The new album hasn't sunk in yet for some of you.

I hope you are right, but as of right now TT5B is way behind the others.

[AMC_The_Prince]

Why join and make that your first post? If you don't like the album why did you come to the bands website, create an account.......and make a stupid thread like this. The album rocks, if you dont like it thats fine, but dont share that with us, go listen to your Eminem CD or something.

[Grinshannon]

:D the beasties are great, I wouldn't expect them to be the same on every album. They grow, and i think it is a good direction. I can't wait for the tour.

[Yeti]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique." But this album shows no creativity. The same delivery on all tracks. Most tracks aren't even 3 min. long. The only song I really dig is because of a Sugarhill gang sample. I am truly dissapointed in this album. This sucks. Maybe I'm old. But the whole we're retro and having fun shit is a cop out. I guess they need to get paid. Any thoughts?

Peace,

BogusB needs to check himself before he wrecks himself.
I dig...? Go dig some ditches and make use of your time.
Most tracks aren't even 3 minutes? I heard your girl says the same thing about her sex life.
Maybe I'm old? If you don't know then you need to look at your snaggle toothed face in the mirror.
Don't compare the Beasties albums. Just enjoy. You like the Sugarhill sample huh? Hotel, Motel, Holiday Inn the Summer wasn't shit until the Beasties dropped in. Peace in the Middle East

[SpanishFly]

I think the new album is fantastic....and I've been listening to the Beasties for, like, 17 years. The lyrics are alot more creative then I would have expected....(Crawlspace is freakin' awesome!).

Do yourself a favor and listen to it a few more times. I think it might be turning into my one of my faves by them. I know that because when I listen to it, I don't skip around on the cd...I listen to it all the way through. (y)

[boogie b]

Yo, thanx to all those that responded with some kind education. I was just stating my opinion. Fuck all those who came with angry remarks like I ran over their dog or some shit. Maybe I will listen to it a few more times and see if it grows. Also, I just wanted to interact with other fans, but seems like most you people like to just diss and don't want to find out more about anything. I think eminem sucks. I think 50 cent sucks. I do like true hip-hop like Common, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, Eric B. Rakim, KRS-One, etc. That's the real shit. Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85'. Don't get me wrong, I think they've made great music, but I just was expecting more musically. The lyrics are cool and always have been. They own an individual style and that's cool, but this direction seems less challenging from a "MUSICAL" aspect.

Peace to the kind.
Death to closed minds.

B

[singletone]

Yo, thanx to all those that responded with some kind education. I was just stating my opinion. Fuck all those who came with angry remarks like I ran over their dog or some shit. Maybe I will listen to it a few more times and see if it grows. Also, I just wanted to interact with other fans, but seems like most you people like to just diss and don't want to find out more about anything. I think eminem sucks. I think 50 cent sucks. I do like true hip-hop like Common, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, Eric B. Rakim, KRS-One, etc. That's the real shit. Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85'. Don't get me wrong, I think they've made great music, but I just was expecting more musically. The lyrics are cool and always have been. They own an individual style and that's cool, but this direction seems less challenging from a "MUSICAL" aspect.

Peace to the kind.
Death to closed minds.

B


I hear what your saying man and I agree with everything except for the part about the "white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon." Even if that is essentially what they did, License to Ill is one of the most respected hip hop albums ever.... ergo, vis-a-vis, concordingly.... a little respect is in order.

Now I'm not trying to jump down your throat or anything because I do agree with the lack of musical creativity that appears on the album. I was actually hoping that they would come out with an album consisting of nothing but songs played with actual instruments. As it turns out they did just the opposite, but oh well, maybe it will happen on their next album.

You can't knock them for trying to go back to an all hip hop album again, I mean it has been 15 years since they've done one (Paul's Boutique). And they did take a lot of music they made with their own instruments, cut it up, and laid it down as the background for their songs on this album. They at least deserve respect for that because most artists in the hip hop industry couldn't do it if they tried.

In conclusion to this novel, I can only say that I hope this new album grows on both of us.

Peace.

[jambon]

obviously, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the beastie boys are artists who create and produce. this is like telling a painter that his painting sucks. this album came from them and it's up for interpretation and acceptance, but i don't think it's fair to say it sucks. you may not like it, understand it or appreciate it, but accept it for what it is. dude you said it,being an artist myself i agree completely

[dizrokwel]

man people on this poard need to get off the beasties dicks and listen to this album without a preconcieved idea of who their fav band is, to say the beasties can do no wrong/?? even the legends like hendrix, coltrane, and miles davis didnt do extremely phenomenal work all the time. take the beasties off their pedestal they are just musicians, no dis to the bboys i think they are great but no wrong??? come on.

[Yeti]

:eek: bogus b-quote-"I just wanted to interact with other fans, but seems like most you people like to just diss and don't want to find out more about anything". :mad:

You are a Fool! I have never heard of anyone trying to engage in an intelligent conversation beginning with an insult. What's up with "This Album Sucks!!" Get a grip bogus b.

:eek: bogus b-quote-"I do like true hip-hop like Common, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, Eric B. Rakim, KRS-One, etc. That's the real shit. Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85". :mad:

The B-Boys were driving the wagon while MCs jumped on board. I guess you like Common because that is your middle name. I bet your last name is Bastard. Oh, I forgot. FUCK YOU!!

[BeastyGurl]

man people on this poard need to get off the beasties dicks and listen to this album without a preconcieved idea of who their fav band is, to say the beasties can do no wrong/?? even the legends like hendrix, coltrane, and miles davis didnt do extremely phenomenal work all the time. take the beasties off their pedestal they are just musicians, no dis to the bboys i think they are great but no wrong??? come on.

Ok I admit: I went a lil too far. Do NO wrong is too strong, if they can do wrong, I haven't heard it, yet. so I'm on a Beastie dick, I wish. (ahh, ADROCK, ahh) Jimmi Hendrix or the Marley's, I've never heard a song i didn't like. and if the beasties have a pedestal, where? I'd like to worship them as gods. do you think there is a beastie religion? I could invent a multi-trillion doller empire, devote my life to the beastie cause, ohh that'd ROCK. I WILL DO IT. they will become equal to Jesus himself, and 99999999999% more rich. and I demand 10%. (y) (y) (y)

[the_blah]

I’ve Hads enough’s and I can’t’s stands no more :mad:

Why do so many people dis this album (n)

I think you need to stop bitchin and keep you thoughts to yourself you " So Called Fans". How Can you be a fan if you don't like this album. I had someone say that they would rather listen to Coldplay than this album. I thought that guy was a retard and i belive you should apoligize to us fans for complaning to us (y)

[JonKarson]

I'd like to worship them as gods. do you think there is a beastie religion? I could invent a multi-trillion doller empire, devote my life to the beastie cause, ohh that'd ROCK. I WILL DO IT. they will become equal to Jesus himself, and 99999999999% more rich. and I demand 10%. (y) (y) (y)

lol, freaky you say that, cause when people ask i seriously do say my religion is Beastie Boys...

they of course give me the weirdest looks, and i either try to explain or just walk away cause i hate dealing with close-minded fools...

now we all just gotta start a church and get worshippers so we can get a tax break...hehe

(yea i know the psychosis is getting worst by the day, but i love it)

[D_Train]

Yes it is missing some of the energy from previous albums
That's what I thought at first too...
But now I actually feel that it has some serious energy!....even more so than some of their other albums. I'm not saying it's better, just saying it has a certain, different kind of energy that I don't hear on any of their other.

The other albums have plenty of energy....but it's not the same.
This has that electronic, yet old school flavor.... The old school beats and bass compliment the newer "electronic" sounding melodies, hooks, and sounds very well. Plus the Beasties rhyming....
The combo throws out some crazy energy. imo (a little hard to explain though)

Anyways, I love the album.

[Lemieux66]

like boogie b said .. if /you guy/s see any/ creativity/ ........ tell me ... i don'T see some ....

this album sucks .... i love all their albums before .... but this one .... the bboys are bad composer .... and we saw it for the first time... they should bvring back money/ mark, mario c, and cie .. to get something goig on musically/ ...

Kevin Groulx

[jimbo_87]

whilst i love the new album, how could i not, bogus b does raise the point that the beasties are the best and are therefore having to jump through even higher hoops to keep up with what we feel their potential is.

for example ill communication was a bit of an anti-climax after check your head. although ill communication is still a great album.

even if the beasties new stuff is not quite up to scratch it is still light years ahead of the competition. the only album which has come close i feel is Jurassic 5 with J5.

[huwpaz]

How can someone critisise rap songs for being less than 3mins long?!!!????? don't you remember where the beaties came from? hardcore punk!!! the land of the 2 minute song. this album is about back to basics and a stripped down hip-hop sound and it's done with the usual BB flair. The content of the lyrics is as good as the beasties have ever produced and I think it's awesome, plain and simple :D

[D_Train]

like boogie b said .. if /you guy/s see any/ creativity/ ........ tell me ... i don'T see some ....
PLENTY!! But it really isn't even worth explaining. If you can't appreciate or at least hear and respect some of the creativity involved then It ain't even worth it trying to explain.

they should bvring back money/ mark, mario c, and cie .. to get something goig on musically/...
While I agree with ya that it would be nice to have some of those cats back.... I like that older style...

But man... "get something going on musically"??

Are you kidding. This IS music!!
Now maybe you are just more into a different style...and that's cool. But to go saying that this joint sucks?! Hey...your opinion. But I think you're way off base.

[Allnutt]

I have been listening to - TT5B for the past two weeks on my way to and from work in Singapore and itches my brain. That is, it loops inside my head - so catchy, so old school, so up-beat. Why should anyone want to make a complaint about good-effort. Mix Master Mike has got it going on. Most of the lyrics by Mike-D are so catchy, The King Ad-Rock's wording is cool and Adam is on time too. So, what's up? :cool:

[Bobtwi]

You suck dude.Go to a DIFFERENT SITE!

[GrooveJedi]

There is a reason why the tracks are all short. You see, Adam, Mike and Adam are fucking brilliant. They are geniuses. Every single track on this album can go straight to radio without an edit (clean versions of course). Every single track is set for single stardom. What you don't realize is that the remixes are going to vault this album to another level and make it that much better than it already is (and it rocks). For example, have a listen to the JUST BLAZE Remix of Check It Out.

[Agenda7]

Hey man...keep that shit to yourself okay...the cd is marvelous..the Boys came correct as always...the beats are unique..and just pump like a heart beat...so shut up...and find better things to do with your time....

[Justin]

boogie B -"Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85'."


You have absolutely no sense what so ever! First of all there was no band wagon in 85, rap was fresh then. Second of all if it werent for these 3 "jewish white boys" and rick rubin there would be no DEF JAM!

So i guess the release of "Cooky Puss" before 85 had no innovaton to it either huh?

So with all due respect, go fuck yourself :)

[SickBoy76]

I would've respected your opinion if you hadn't dropped the whole "white jewish kids" thing in the next post.

IMHO TT5B is a great hip-hop album for 2004. I like it alot better than Hello Nasty and Ill Communication already.

[SleeveZipper]

:eek: bogus b-quote-"I just wanted to interact with other fans, but seems like most you people like to just diss and don't want to find out more about anything". :mad:

You are a Fool! I have never heard of anyone trying to engage in an intelligent conversation beginning with an insult. What's up with "This Album Sucks!!" Get a grip bogus b.

:eek: bogus b-quote-"I do like true hip-hop like Common, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, Eric B. Rakim, KRS-One, etc. That's the real shit. Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85". :mad:

The B-Boys were driving the wagon while MCs jumped on board. I guess you like Common because that is your middle name. I bet your last name is Bastard. Oh, I forgot. FUCK YOU!!

yo yeti,
quit the hatin man. hes just tryin to state an opinion n not everyone is like they swear the shit oout of someone if they disagree or dont like him/her.
You needs to chill to out

[Teh]

It's because they've changed their image. In previous albums they've been acting like rebels, or something (Fight for your right, No sleep 'til Brooklyn), but now they're more of a political influenced group.
Not that this is a a bad thing..
I like it! (y)

[Alex C]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique." But this album shows no creativity. The same delivery on all tracks. Most tracks aren't even 3 min. long. The only song I really dig is because of a Sugarhill gang sample. I am truly dissapointed in this album. This sucks. Maybe I'm old. But the whole we're retro and having fun shit is a cop out. I guess they need to get paid. Any thoughts?

Peace,

I have to respect your opinion, but force yourself to listen to it a few more times. I didnt fall in love with it straight away, but by about the third or fourth listen I was totally hooked. I dont think there's been a day since its release that I havent listened to it yet! I think thats the normail thing with a BB album, cos there's just so much to take in at first. :)

[double_e_]

sorry but i have to disagree...this album is awesome. the beastie boys have really matured lyrically and have shown growth. as always, they put insightful and thought provoking messages in their songs and show that they too have opinions on the world we live in today...isn't comparing tt5b to their earlier albums a little unrealistic? i dont mean to sound cliche but things change and they've changed for the better why still staying true to their roots.
Peace ;)

[mcaismyhero]

OK here is how TT5B ranks in comparison to the other albums (in my oninion):

1. Paul's Boutique
2. Check Your Head
3. Ill Communication
4. Hello Nasty (I don't have this one though so my mind might change once I buy it)
5. To The 5 Burroughs
6. Liscenced to Ill

It's an OK album, and it is better than LTI (which kinda sucks), but it just isn't as good as the other albums. Granted, I'll bet that many bands would like to have this album as one of their worst. It's a good album, but in comparison to the other Beastie albums it is nowhere near them. And I don't that it will be as influential as LTI either. I mean, even a kid who isn't a Beastie fan most likely knows the words to "You Gotta Fight for Your Right," "Brass Monkey," or "Time to Get Ill." TT5B has good songs but I highly doubt that any of the ones that aren't released as singles will be sung by kids in 10 or 15 who aren't Beastie fans.

[bez1]

I have been into the Beastie boys since day one and in my opinion this is some of the best stuff they have ever done.Nice old skool flava (y)

[yetiman]

Well, If You Don't Like It Then Hey Fuck You!

You can't be that old, or you would have the ability to appreciate the intellect that went into this album. The rhymes alone put TT5B so far ahead of what else is being done right now, I can only assume that you will be one of the many who one day, a few years from now, rediscovers the album and says "Whoa, what was I on in 2004?"

[Shabadoo]

1st of all, you can't post "this album sucks!!" on the beasties' site and then get offended when people get pissed off at you. what the hell did you think was going to happen dingleberry?

2nd, you should take the advice that a lot of peoples have given (besides fuck off) and keep listening to it. i admit the first time i heard it i was slightly let down... i was kind of hoping for an evolved hello nasty. after 2 more listens i absolutely loved it. keep in mind the album title when you listen. it's supposed to be an homage to the early days. simple doesn't mean bad.

hope it's grown on you some by now.

[MartorDR]

I liked the album

[ohbabay2069]

i didnt like it at first but now i love it! listen 2 triple trouble!!!

[SickBoy76]

OK here is how TT5B ranks in comparison to the other albums (in my oninion):

1. Paul's Boutique
2. Check Your Head
3. Ill Communication
4. Hello Nasty (I don't have this one though so my mind might change once I buy it)
5. To The 5 Burroughs
6. Liscenced to Ill

It's an OK album, and it is better than LTI (which kinda sucks), but it just isn't as good as the other albums. Granted, I'll bet that many bands would like to have this album as one of their worst. It's a good album, but in comparison to the other Beastie albums it is nowhere near them. And I don't that it will be as influential as LTI either. I mean, even a kid who isn't a Beastie fan most likely knows the words to "You Gotta Fight for Your Right," "Brass Monkey," or "Time to Get Ill." TT5B has good songs but I highly doubt that any of the ones that aren't released as singles will be sung by kids in 10 or 15 who aren't Beastie fans.

Anyone who doesn't own or hasn't heard Hello Nasty shouldn't be making lists ranking Beastie Boy albums. And who cares if people who aren't Beastie fans will be singing a song like The Brouhaha or All Lilfestyles in 15 years? What matters is I WILL BE and I'm sure lots of other people will be too.

[djsoundwave]

Only some kid named Justin would have a problem with this record. I have to agree with the other heads who have responded, it definately grows on you. Everyday I find myself liking another song on the record. You can not compare this record to their others, just like you can't compare the ones before this either. they all stand alone, just like the B-Boys do in the world of Hip-Hop right now. It's refreshing to hear an album where the artist isn't trying for sales or radio play. You know this album is just straight up NY and they repped it that way! "Triple Trouble" " Hey F@&! You" and "Rhyme The Rhyme Well" are my favorites as of today- that could change when I play it again. These songs just grow on you. I also wish "World Gone Mad" was on this record as well.

"word to hair mousse"

P.S.- I was at a Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick show last week here in Chicago and I saw a poster with The Beasties, Talib Kweli and Kanye West, but I didn't get a good look at it- does anyone know if this is an upcoming tour or something? That would be an Ill tour!
Peace!

[tiny_salmon]

i think the album is phenomenal. it's a little bit addictive. i haven't really listened to much else since i've had it, and i got it the day it came out. it is so refreshing to hear people rapping about real issues while having fun at the same time.

[Jose Ole]

To the 5 buroughs is one of the greatest cds of all time. GOD BLESS THE BEASTIE BOYS!

[vorticez]

Boogie B must have eaten too many chips and clogged his brains with fat or something. TT5B is great, packed with meaty ryhmes and beaty goodness. Sounds like the work of people who know what they are doing! I doubt it's just your age making you not dig it, I'm 29, been into BBoys for long time and loving it! ;)

[joice]

acording to RollingStone that is their better record....ever

[SleeveZipper]

P.S.- I was at a Biz Markie, Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick show last week here in Chicago and I saw a poster with The Beasties, Talib Kweli and Kanye West, but I didn't get a good look at it- does anyone know if this is an upcoming tour or something? That would be an Ill tour!
Peace!
A Biz markie, DOug E fresh n slick rick show?? damn!!! i want to live where you live, that woulda been off the hook!!!

[MikeC247]

You must have gotten a hold of some of the bad Liquorish that was going around.. This album is awesome.... Listen to it a gain and again again until you like it....

[BeastNC]

Wow dude, you suck! (n)

[BeastNC]

Anyone who doesn't own or hasn't heard Hello Nasty shouldn't be making lists ranking Beastie Boy albums. And who cares if people who aren't Beastie fans will be singing a song like The Brouhaha or All Lilfestyles in 15 years? What matters is I WILL BE and I'm sure lots of other people will be too.



I agree! That kid sucks! (n)

[BeastNC]

1st of all, you can't post "this album sucks!!" on the beasties' site and then get offended when people get pissed off at you. what the hell did you think was going to happen dingleberry?

2nd, you should take the advice that a lot of peoples have given (besides fuck off) and keep listening to it. i admit the first time i heard it i was slightly let down... i was kind of hoping for an evolved hello nasty. after 2 more listens i absolutely loved it. keep in mind the album title when you listen. it's supposed to be an homage to the early days. simple doesn't mean bad.

hope it's grown on you some by now.








Nice i agree!!

[BeastNC]

Looks like every1 hates boogie b!

[BeastNC]

Yo, thanx to all those that responded with some kind education. I was just stating my opinion. Fuck all those who came with angry remarks like I ran over their dog or some shit. Maybe I will listen to it a few more times and see if it grows. Also, I just wanted to interact with other fans, but seems like most you people like to just diss and don't want to find out more about anything. I think eminem sucks. I think 50 cent sucks. I do like true hip-hop like Common, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, Eric B. Rakim, KRS-One, etc. That's the real shit. Not some white jewish kids who jumped on the band wagon back in 85'. Don't get me wrong, I think they've made great music, but I just was expecting more musically. The lyrics are cool and always have been. They own an individual style and that's cool, but this direction seems less challenging from a "MUSICAL" aspect.

Peace to the kind.
Death to closed minds.

B


Wow now every1 just hates you more! (n)

[djsoundwave]

A Biz markie, DOug E fresh n slick rick show?? damn!!! i want to live where you live, that woulda been off the hook!!!


Yeah it was an ill show! Chicago always reps nice shows. Biz spun on cd turntables and then did about three or four songs. Doug E. fresh was dope. He beat boxxed into a harmonica, then Slick Rick came out and they did the "The Show" and "Ladi Dadi". Rick then had like ten gold chains put on him and rocked the house when he did "Children's Story". Big up to Oldskool!!!

Peace, DJSoundwave

[degranged]

I almost thought the same thing until I LISTENED to it. If nothing else, it's an excellent album to retire on... Thanks for the memories, and one more boost, Beasties. But I think the party's over soon...

[JonKarson]

'tis a wonderous romp betwix the boys and thee metropolis... me likey...

[double_e_]

gasp. beastNC. i am aware that canada is a bit lame due to the fact that i live in it, but to say that it SUX. i am shocked.

[fred-man]

My advice would be to ease back with a few cool Millers, or whatever your drink of choice is, and listen to it with the CD cover open. I, personally, loved it top to bottom, from the get-go but, after listening to it while reading the lyrics, it's even better--they're tight as hell and rival "Paul's Boutique" in creativity.

Burn one too!!! :cool:

[Sandy'sBoy]

Kid - you've gotta wait for it - like all good things, you must wait for it. Kick back in your lazy boy, put the ear goggles back on and smooth out. Over the past six years you've probably been listening to sh*t (good sh*t) like Eminem, and other white rappers that have impressed you - and their stuff is on some hard-lined hooks with a no nonsense approach to storybook/telling rap. BUT, you've got to remember - these are the Beasties. They don't take themselves too seriously - that's not to say they don't take this sh*t seriously, because they do - but they ain't out on some hard core rap sh*t that's been out lately. Take it for what it is - it's the Beasties man - the sh*t is smooth - Sugarhill Gang hook is smooth, but Mike Schwartz does some good sh*t on some other tracks as well. Mellow out son.

I'm just pissed Mario C was invited back on this joint - what's the deal? Kid should be part of the family, no? - I understand the whole "we just started it out and finished it up" but c'mon - how you gonna play the kid - sh*t I don't know - maybe the kid is washed up, retired.

[jennyb]

In my humble opinion... all great albums need to grow on you... it's not something you can just pick up right away... if you want beats and lyrics that instantly hook you, maybe you need to listen to more 'pop' and 'top 40' acts and songs specifically written to make money. TT5B (like all the work of the beasties) is art and not a product generated to make everyone happy. Not that you should ultimately like it, but definately give it some time to marinate.

[rumpshakah85]

1st of all, you can't post "this album sucks!!" on the beasties' site and then get offended when people get pissed off at you. what the hell did you think was going to happen dingleberry?

2nd, you should take the advice that a lot of peoples have given (besides fuck off) and keep listening to it. i admit the first time i heard it i was slightly let down... i was kind of hoping for an evolved hello nasty. after 2 more listens i absolutely loved it. keep in mind the album title when you listen. it's supposed to be an homage to the early days. simple doesn't mean bad.

hope it's grown on you some by now.

I totally agree with you also. The album grew on me, i listened to it more and more and came to understand it better. I think its better when you dont automatically love a song, u prob didnt like it at first because its different and not familiar to the other music thats out right now. (For instance, the outkast cds were diff but i grew to like them) So its good were listening to fresh creative :) music. Those are just my thoughts.

[adrockgirl]

the first time i listen i was like fuck yes. and then the second third, fourth, and etc.... i still think this album is fantastic.

i hope you get to love it..

[The egg man]

:eek: Are you kidding me? this has to be the greatest album they've put out so far. Paul's Boutique WAS good but i'd have to say that this was better, thats just my opinion but i dont see how you cant like this.

An open letter to sharp_cheddar

Hi,

I'm sorry to have to tell you, you're wrong in my opinion.
Paul's boutique is by far the finest B Boys album, it's the b-boys at their most expressive, expansive, humourous, funkiest, freshest, i can't express myself about it enough.
The new album is indeed excellent, but it's not in the same league.

I just felt the need to disagree

The Egg man

[Professorbooty]

The new album is rubbish. Pure and simple.

[Flintlock James]

This album doesn't suck, people need to open thier minds to new styles new sounds and new ideas, this album was well thought out and alot of hard work and effort went into it, if u dont like it then just say that you dont and dont say it "sucks" cause thats your opinion,sure theres gonna be those who dont like it but they need to give their respect as an artist.

[FUZZYBLOKE]

How can you be a big B Boys fan and think TT5B sux???? :confused:

Yeah they may have gone a bit 'Old Skool' and 'Retro' on it but in case you didn't notice that's what in fashion now!!! For a band of 'forty-somethings' who've been together for 23 years and make it sound so fresh and cool is some achievement!! Will the likes of Eminem, 50 Cent etc still be regarded as cool in 2024? (Mind you they're hardly cool as it is now! :p ) And as for the album being 'too short' I'm sure the last thing I and other fans want to do is spend hours listening to boring tracks. Aglio E Olio is only 11 mins long so I suppose you hate that too?! It's quality, not quantity we're after.

I think you should go back to your Westlife, Blue and S Club 8 cds :D

[Lady Aphex]

My only negitave thought about the new album; the number of tracks, I was totally thinking it was going to be another 20-22, but no, ah well, I'll take what I can get. :)

[Emanon]

Saying the album sucks is a pretty bold statement. It's by far not my favorite album, but there are enough good tracks to make me enjoy it. I don't really like some of the political tones, but the Beasties have gotten more world aware as they've gotten older, so you have to expect that sort of thing. All in all I say it's a good album. Not great, but a decent release. Who knows, maybe they'll release an EP or something with some good fun music we all like.

[lil richard]

I'M A BIG FAN, BUT THIS ALBUM SUCKS!!

true (n)
they gotta make a better album next time

[Flintlock James]

You ca not like the album all you want, to YOU it isnt good, but why not just say that? see whenever someone says something like that they are stating their opinion as fact when you do this it makes you sound ignorant, keep in mind i'm not trying to diss, one thing that i see with a bunch of really good bands is that whenever they have have their own style which is clear that the Beastie Boys have, that people tend to forget that and then put them into categories such as hip-hop or even a bit rap/rock, if you try to place them in a genre before you understand their own style then they will never fit and thats what makes them unique. no offence to anyone but, I dont think anyone should be able to determine if a bands music "sucks" because the band in question has already made it and has proven to the masses they've got what it takes, and they obviously know what they are doing, who are we to judge them since we arent at that level. its like a having frank sinatra judge a freestyle rap event.

[sonic1988]

I respect your opinion but this is actually my fav. album

you probally like their rock more then their rap.

[B_Mackin']

How many times do I have to say this... If you don't like the news then press eject! This is a Beastie FAN website. If you don't like them don't post shit!

[Flintlock James]

i dont know but,just cause he doent like it doesnt mean ya gotta flame him,
but the way he says they suck sounds like he's stating this as fact but should just say he doesnt like it. i'm no mod or anything but ya shouldnt flame him.

[maphisc]

The alblum definitely does not suck but everyone is entitled to their opinion. My favorite Beastie alblums are Check Your Head and Ill Communication but that is my opinion. You are entitled to your opinion but TTFB definitely does not suck by any means.

[Professorbooty]

I can't believe the people who say that if you don't like TTFB then you cannot like PB or LTI. The latest album is nothing like the first two, and is incomparable in terms of the general quality of material. The new album sounds like B-Sides. Half-cooked B-Sides too. I mean, even something like Netty's Girl eclipses anything on TTFB.

And no, before the detractors jump in, I AM a Beasties fan. I just find TTFB very dissapointing.

[Nerd Fight]

This is a Beastie FAN website.

No it's not, it's the Beastie Boys official website.

[Spanishbomb808]

It needs more cowbell.

[Brass_Munkey]

To the 5 Boroughs is perhaps the Beasties most cohesive and focused album. It brings to the table a very singular style in terms of hip-hop. The sound clips throughout keep the record light and funny. Each song is different within itself, but still sticking to the overall style of the CD. The Beastie Boys have always been known for revamping their style in a creative way on each album, so it is not surprising some people would not like this one. As it was the album I got first, I was amazed as to why I had not been a Beastie Boys fan in the past. They have now joined the ranks as one of my favorite bands, and TT5B is a major reason!

[beastinotaranie]

I thought it sucked the first time I heard it but it just keeps better and better after every listen.

If you love the Beastie Boys you should really listen to this album a few more times.
i felt the same way about paul's. sorry for the blasphemy. but when i heard it, i didn't REALLY hear it, u know what im sayin? since paul's was the actually first artistic and talented album ive heard, i didnt recognize. i was used to "hit" albums. thinking that if it wasn't catchy the first time u heard it, it sucked.

[martijn]

How can you be a big B Boys fan and think TT5B sux???? :confused:


This is total nonsense, do dont have to like all the things the beasties make. If he does not like it, let him, im not a big faN OF THE latest album to.

[jorGgrl]

big fan? i doubt it. :confused:

[FAN of ADROCK]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique." But this album shows no creativity. The same delivery on all tracks. Most tracks aren't even 3 min. long. The only song I really dig is because of a Sugarhill gang sample. I am truly dissapointed in this album. This sucks. Maybe I'm old. But the whole we're retro and having fun shit is a cop out. I guess they need to get paid. Any thoughts?

Peace,
no. YOU suck (n)

[senser]

To say this album sucks is a bit strong! Although it is one of the weaker beastie albums so far, but probably because everything they have done so far has been classic. there are enough decent tunes on this album and they certainly outweigh the weaker tracks. keep listening to it, cos it is definately a grower, and still the best hip-hop album to come out this year.

Long reign the Beasties ;) undefined

[bgirl_jess]

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy guess what?! No one fucking cares what you think because the album owns you :)

[brianavalentino]

What the hell? I think this is one of their best. Unlike a lot of artists' albums nowadays, this one serves so many great purposes it's ridiculous.

[maddoctorx]

This album is not there best. I wanted to be exicted about it but to many of the tracks sound thin and empty. I'm a big fan of computer music but these beats on these tracks for the exception of three just don't have the juice or the funk in them to stand up. I admire everything else that they have done and the doors they have opened for the likes of Aesop Rock , Dalek , Atmosphere etc .... I'm still a fan of the Beastie Boys I just hope there next relaise is a little bit better. The problem is that they have there own work to compete with and sometimes its hard to best yourself.

[jusme1072]

this album is OLD SCHOOL!! they have been on the cutting edge, always. everybody else is trying to copy the funk, so they are making their own way. always one of a kind. you can't compare any album to another, everyone is a different part of their life. try to appreciate it for what it is and not what you want it to be. everything they do is amazing, and they have done their own way everytime.

[bennyman]

...in comparison to their other albums, maybe. the lyrics are good, the flow is par for b-boy's, but the production is what holds this record back imo. the beats on the album sound elementary, mostly on the second half of the album. just saw them this weekend and they kicked mucho ass. mmm just KILLED the turntables! i think if they took more time with the beats and maybe used some other people to contribute it could've been a classic. it still wastes everything else that came out this year.

[pattyb617]

yo, it totally agree, this is my favorite beastie boys album, and I have been a big fan for like 12 years. This album is most enjoyable, I think every song is great and the album has a great flow that some of their other albums lack. I like their instrumentals and punk stuff, but those songs sometimes slowed an album down, which would make me skip around their albums alot. TT5B is one of their only albums I listen to straight through, from beginning to end, loving every song. I think it is a great, old school, awesome, clever album. It's got the right amount of funny and political stuff, and I love all of their food references. What's your favorite song on this album?

[bennyman]

i like "3 the hard way" and "rhyme the rhyme well" best. they were going for old school on this one, and these tracks really have that feel. tracks 4 and 9 are great too.

[scott489]

TT5B is a good album. I like how they went back to the old school sound on this one. For their first time producing an entire album on their own they did a good job.

[teachinwildones]

The first time I heard TT5B, I wasn't quite sure about it. But, then I put it on during a road trip and just grooved with it for awhile. How can you not enjoy lyrics like: "'Cause I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh. T-shirt and no pants, and I dance the Boogaloo."? Come on, it just makes me smile a lot. Not only that, they ROCKED in Tampa last Tuesday. :D

[reedks]

It needs more cowbell.


Spanishbomb808 is my new hero. Best quote of the day.

[NathanWind]

...maybe... just maybe.. its not the album that sucks... maybe you suck and the album is incredible... maybe

[instigator7022]

I must say that TT5B is a very delicious album. You must listen to the lyrics to fully love this album. Do i not sound like a gay man?

[Humiliation]

for example ill communication was a bit of an anti-climax after check your head. although ill communication is still a great album.

Aww now you've got me too excited about getting it cause i thought ill communication was the best of the ones i've heard. I haven't got or heard paul's boutique or check your head but i am getting them soon.

I think TT5B is great. Though I think it isn't as good as ill communication or hello nasty. Though better than Licence to ill (before my time. Dun like 80s music). I thought it was WAY better than what the reviews made it out to be

[Kingpin69]

TT5B is a great album. (y)
I've loved every album so far, Ill Communication and Hello Nasty being my favourites. This is up there with those two, for me.
Some have said it needs a few plays to get you going, but the first time was great for me. I apprecatiate that everyone has a right to an opinion but I can't understand how anyone who liked the other records is able to dislike this one.

Can't wait to see 'em live for the first time next weekend. :D

[Johanna]

please, just let this thread die (n)

[utze]

The album is great. you have to listen often on it. so it grows. first i thought - wow - not the best - now it´s near the best.

i love all albums and i am happy that they started one again. hope there will be one more album.

greetings from germany. yesterday berlin and on monday düsseldorf!

YEAH!

[steve-onpoint]

Oh Word? Good stuff.

[mikedzlilfreak]

i<3all beastieness

[cosmo105]

^it's baaaaack.

[Rich Cheney]

A good measure as to the quality of an album is how long it takes before it goes stale. TT5B went stale on me in about 4 months. The sounds are too generic they lack any resonance. Sure there are moments of brilliance but moments don't make for an entirety. TT5B is a cut and paste job Apple C Apple V.

[burbboi]

I have all of their albums including the greatest, "Paul's Boutique."

You like Paul's Boutique but not TT5B? What the hell is wrong with you?



You're not a fan, you're a critic. Anyways, you're long gone judging from your join date and number of posts so i'm probably wasting energy typing this reply.



Another one bites the dust!

[DLaw3000]

To The 5 Boroughs is not a bad album.
I think the reason some people might not like it as much is because of its more hip-hop attitude. As Beastie Boys state in their interview, that was basically what the album was going for. It's obviously quite different from older albums such as Paul's Boutique or Licensed to Ill. This doesn't make it bad. Often, you have to give things a chance. There are some really classic songs on TT5B including Right Right Now Now and Triple Trouble, not to mention Ch-Check it Out. I'd have to say that Open Letter to NYC is up there with my favorite Beastie songs. Beastie Boys songs usually grow on you once you listen to them and learn a bit more about the lyrics and references. Keep in mind that they've been making music for more than 20 years, and I believe I can speak for MCA when I say that he was making records when you were sucking your mother's dick. This allows for some changes in style.

[ericg]

If you can't, won't, and you don't appreciate it, then you're not down with the Beasties(period) With shit gettin' duller and duller... with all the sucker's clotting the world and life, they had to go back... realign and drop it on all the corny melons. So if you think it sucks, either you don't get it, or YOU are one of the suckers. So, point and case... The Beasties made it for all you suckers. I for one split my wig over anything the Boys make.

[Rob Dogg]

The album is the hip-hop album of the year! It is good that they are delvering a strong political message as well as great music, and I can't see how anyone can see any fault in this album.

[alexandra]

yeah it's great and all, but WHAT THE FUNK HAS E.T. DONE TO ADROCK, HUUUH...?!

[Echewta]

This album is great to floss to. Yesterday, I had it on and pulled out some nasty stuff because I had a V8 for lunch. Its much chunkier than people realize.

[cosmo105]

You like Paul's Boutique but not TT5B? What the hell is wrong with you?
hahaha. he's got good taste?

[madchild]

i don't see how all of you guys can praise tt5b as being such a great album. it lacks creativity. i could make better sounding beats on a $100 casio keyboard. to tell you the truth, after ch- check it out died out these radio stations around here haven't played anything from tt5b except for triple trouble every once in a blue moon. all they play is pre- tt5b stuff. however, the albums does have a few high points, oh who am i kidding. the only good songs honestly are check it out and open letter....

[SuckerMC]

Okie Dokie, i think you are so wrong!! TT5B rocks!!
there are some amazing scratches by MMM, and some crazy rhymes!
I mean what other band could put this into their songs
"I'm a freaky streaker like Winnie the Pooh, with no shorts, just a shirt and i dance the boogaloo"!!
I agree that it is totally different from thier others, but that is why its good...
I would have liked a few instrumentals, but i was definately satisfied.
But i can how see why ppl dislike it, some of the beats are somewhat simplistic, but as they say "sometimes simple is the best"... i dunno if they say that, but it sounds good to me!!

[minorthreat]

i'll be the first to admit that to the 5 boroughs isn't as funky as check your head or as epic as hello nasty, but i wouldn't say it sucked. its better than licensed to ill anyway.

[chrisd]

like: I'm a republican, but Bush sucks (think about it... it's called graditude... ring a bell?)

Just some recent thoughts about just how good TT5B is: It's produced by the beasties, I mean listen to beck or tenacious d; whatever the dust bros. do, it seems like they just swallow the artist and the album is just another dust bros. production. then there's rick rubin: the stuff he did with run dmc is genius and on LTI the beasties are so fresh that they actually have their head out of the all-engulfing production, but in TT5B it's just them and that's what makes it work so good. even mario c. was becoming a production nuisance and hello nasty was on the verge of being a production and not an artist based album. Just listen to 99 probs; it's pop art, if the beasties had worked with either of these genius producers again then their genius, which far surpasses the latter's, would've been compromised.

[ericg]

I know many of you can't, wont and don't get it, but you know what?
If you don't like it then hey fuck you.

Swift kick to the head all around.

If your not down with it, you don't get IT... or anything for that matter... get it?

Frankly, the Beasties could loop a fart and it'd be like... RIGHT ON!

Motherfuckers always tryin' foil quests and shit for their own demise. I don't know if your old enough to know it, but if YOU grow up, the music just might too. That's what the album's about. So grow up naysayers, you don't mean a fuckin' thing where you stand the way this nation and world is now. Your only writin' yourself into the current definition of oxymoron.

AAAHHHHhhhhrrRRRRRaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[minorthreat]

Frankly, the Beasties could loop a fart and it'd be like... RIGHT ON!



that would make for quite an interesting song i think

[ericg]

[minorthreat]

that was an interesting post...

[ericg]

Silent but deadly.. :cool: :D
How interesting is that?

[IDIOTSVILLE]

Frankly, the Beasties could loop a fart and it'd be like... RIGHT ON!

that would make for quite an interesting song i think

You Both make good points

[Beastiebabs1]

Hey the guys entitled to his opinion. Every critic thrashed paul's when it first came out and now everyone thinks its one of the greatest albums of all time. I think you need to give it a chance. How can you not appreciate this album though you say u only like triple trouble.....listen to open letter to NY they but there hearts in that song and the rest of the album...The beasties are much like the Beatles they change with the times and TT5B is the future of hip hop and should be. TT5B is ahead of its time....unless your a beastie fan, its right on time.

[ericg]

Hey thanks Beastiebabs1. Wow. I concur. Nicely put. Well sed. Word up. Wilco. ;) (y) :D :eek: :)

[johntoefoot]

i'm a new fan. missed them when they came to chicago.

what goes on around here?

[Lazar]

I'm also a big fan..
The firs time I listened the album, I disliked it, but the more I listened to it, the more I startyed loving it....
Maybe people think the albom isn't good beacouse they talk about politics..
Maybe people liked them better when they were more abstract..

[IDIOTSVILLE]

My uncle says old people talk about politics

[Ss414]

I think the album is awesome

[craiger]

I haven't listened to it all yet but so far it's ok, but what do I know about this stuff?

I remember the the B-Boys back in the early 80s and they we're funny. You know, they made me laugh. You know, like clowns. After that, like the rest of the world, I forgot about them.

But now I like them. Go figure. Nostalgia? Mid-life crisis? You decide.

Craiger in Midtown Man-HAT-On

[craiger]

They are a lot of fun though. I think I'd like to see them live.

[Dark Beastie]

ahhh Paul´s boutique :D The most difficult album I have. It took me a lot to got it and when I heard it I loved it.. of course there are a couple of songs I really don´t like but apart from that that album is cool.

I really respect your opinion :o

[IronicAllure]

Yea it took me TOO long to get Pauls Boutique.
As for TT5B, from what i've heard so far, it's good (y)

[DigitalB]

Its a good album, I cant see how anyone who has other albums wouldn't like this one.

[Chicka B]

A lot of people are sayin that it took a few listens for it to grow on them or somethin. Well the very first time I heard it I was like "holy shit, these dudes are good rappers!". It was the first Beastie Boys album I was introduced to though, but I think that's what they intended it for. It has good beats, good rhymes, good flow, it's an OLDSCHOOL HIP HOP ALBUM. So if you don't like To The Five Boroughs, then you obviously don't like oldschool hip hop. That's your decision and opinion, but I like it a lot. The first time I heard it I loved it, and I still listen to it till this day. ;) :cool:

[adrock14]

A lot of people are sayin that it took a few listens for it to grow on them or somethin. Well the very first time I heard it I was like "holy shit, these dudes are good rappers!". It was the first Beastie Boys album I was introduced to though, but I think that's what they intended it for. It has good beats, good rhymes, good flow, it's an OLDSCHOOL HIP HOP ALBUM. So if you don't like To The Five Boroughs, then you obviously don't like oldschool hip hop. That's your decision and opinion, but I like it a lot. The first time I heard it I loved it, and I still listen to it till this day. ;) :cool:

me too. (y)

[deadbeatz1]

I felt the same way about "Paul's Boutique" in '89... I also felt that way about EPMD's "Strictly Business." Now, I wouldn't go on a flight without either of them. Listen and you will love. That's the problem with artist like them. There may never be another "Paul's", or "Check Your Head", or "Hello Nasty", much like Prince could not duplicate "Sign o' the Times" or whatever. Maybe we expect too much. At least the Beasties didn't throw out the same slop that nearly every other rap artist is putting out. Their shit means something. Give it a chance.