CSE -- Those Evil Motherfuckers!!!

[DroppinScience]

These pro-Bushies are helping get Nader on the ballot to make sure Bush will be re-elected, and guess what -- Nader's going along with it!

If this isn't playing into the GOP's hands I don't know what is!

http://www.cse.org

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=863

Phone Script: Conservatives for Ralph Nader?
Oregon CSE members push to get Nader on the ballot.

Contact:* Chris Kinnan
Phone:** (202) 236-5615
Email: ckinnan@cse.org


Washington, D.C. -* Oregon CSE members are working to get Ralph Nader on the November ballot! While this sounds completely backwards-- Ralph Nader opposes nearly every issue CSE fights for-- but there's sound logic behind Oregon CSE's actions. CSE does not advocate the election or defeat of political candidates, but Oregon CSE members feel that having Nader on the ballot helps illuminate the strong similarities between the uber-liberal Nader and John Kerry. That's why they've been making calls to their friends to sign a petition to get Nader on the ballot by attending a townhall on June 26th, using a phone script that reads:

"Hi, my name is Russ Walker, director of Citizens for a Sound Economy here in Oregon, and I wanted to tell you about an opportunity we have to drive a wedge through the Liberal Left’s base of support.

In this year’s presidential race, Ralph Nader could peel away a lot of Kerry support in Oregon, but he has to be on the ballot first. He will make it if at least 1,000 people show up this Saturday at Benson High school at 4:00 pm and sign the petition to certify his candidacy. [[Please note-- this event already occured on June 26th]

Liberals are trying to unite in Oregon and keep Nader off the ballot to help their chances of electing John Kerry. We could divide this base of support by showing up at Grant High school on Saturday.

Poor Ralph Nader: He just wants to make the ballot here in Oregon. Let’s give him what he wants and just watch what happens in November!"

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Makes me mad!!!!!!

:mad:

[bilbo]

Good thing Oregon is a safe Kerry state.
Nader is a self-serving tool. :rolleyes:

[Funkaloyd]

Some time ago GEA said something like: "If [x corporation] wanted to pay me to study water pollution, I would take the money, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't conclude that [x corporation] is behind the pollution."

That's a poor paraphrase (the search engine doesn't go back as far as that post), and he was commenting on a different subject, but I agree with that, and don't see why Nader shouldn't take conservative money.

[DroppinScience]

I think this is far different.

We're talking about the conservatives USING Nader to help continue their dangerous neo-con agenda for the next 4 years.

Just read what these guys are saying. They're SICK fucks! :mad:

"Hi, my name is Russ Walker, director of Citizens for a Sound Economy here in Oregon, and I wanted to tell you about an opportunity we have to drive a wedge through the Liberal Left’s base of support."

See? They want to keep us liberals in the same spot as now. Just moaning and complaining on a Beastie Boys message board while the environment is destroyed and Iraq continuing to be fucked over.

No matter how well intentioned Nader is about running and the importance of 3rd party politics, the way he's being used is just transparently awful.

[Funkaloyd]

I agree, the exploitation of America's outdated democratic systems is sick. Now where the fuck is the Dem support for effective electoral reform?

Forgive me if I conclude that maintaining the two party system is more important than winning to the DNC.

[Whois]

Poor Democrats, can't lose the election without a proper scapegoat in place.

Huzzah for Nader!

:rolleyes:

[jegtar]

Don't you think they all 3 have a right to be on the ballot everywhere? The way I see it Kerry and Bush are both pro-war. If you vote for anyone but Nader you have blood on your hands, in my opinion. I'm glad he is going to be on my ballot!

[bilbo]

Nader is pro-Nader
What a sad and pitiful end to a brilliant career.

[paulk]

Don't you think they all 3 have a right to be on the ballot everywhere? The way I see it Kerry and Bush are both pro-war. If you vote for anyone but Nader you have blood on your hands, in my opinion. I'm glad he is going to be on my ballot!

You're forgetting Michael Badnarik.

[DroppinScience]

Well then why don't we get some liberal group to start phoning people in swing states about an opportunity to drive a wedge between the conservatives to get Michael Badnarik on the ballot? HUH? Let's do that. I think it's about time we start dividing the right up into pieces. I'm so sick of a left that can't be united to tie their own shoes. :mad:

[bilbo]

The right is does a better job of getting their base out to vote. This is due in large part to the fact that good percentage of their base is ignorant, and thus are easily riled up by wedge issues like guns, god and fags.
As of now, they also do a better job of keeping people like Pat Buchanon off the ballot.

[Manji]

Apparently this is going on from Both sides. The Democratic Party assisted Conservative Constitution Party Candidate Jim Clymer in acquiring his signatures to take votes in his run against Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Spector. The benefit being to Democratic candidate Joe Hoeffel, of course.

[GreenEarthAl]

My friends were in Buffalo gathering Nader petition signatures last week. I met up with them to help them. I asked for a few signatures in my little hippie village and got denied as I expected. My next inclination was to go door to door in the nearby mansion neighborhoods. But I think even those are pretty solid Kerry supporters here in the inner city. I didn't have any car, I didn't have any time and Nader doesn't have any political party that he's trying to build otherwise I'd have probably gone out to the big suburbs and collected a lot of signatures in Bush country.

I don't think David Cobb (Green Party) actually managed to make it on the ballot in New York State so I may not have a lot of choices this November.

Oh well. I have a lot of congressional and State Assembly races to concentrate on between now and then. So, whatever.

[travesty]

The right is does a better job of getting their base out to vote. This is due in large part to the fact that good percentage of their base is ignorant, and thus are easily riled up by wedge issues like guns, god and fags.


If the left would to do a better job of getting thier ignorant majority out to vote for issues like the economy, Iraq and the deficit we wouldn't be in the situation we are today!

Also, couldn't it be said that the issues that actually get people in the voting booth ARE the REAL issues?

[bilbo]

If the left would to do a better job of getting thier ignorant majority out to vote for issues like the economy, Iraq and the deficit we wouldn't be in the situation we are today!?

Actually if Bush hadn't loused things up we wouldn't be in this situation. :eek:

[travesty]

Actually if Bush hadn't loused things up we wouldn't be in this situation. :eek:

True dat, but it would be nice to see him a bit further down in polls.

[bilbo]

If the left would to do a better job of getting thier ignorant majority out to vote.........

You're right about that.