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SobaViolence
09-15-2004, 08:27 PM
i finished reading Orwell's 1984 a couple days ago, and reflecting deeply about it and how it correlates with today's political climate.
and i must say,
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGHTH
WAR IS PEACE
the continual war on terrorism sure does seem like the constant three-way war between Oceania, Eastasia and Eurasia.
in the novel, when alliances are broken, proof that their ever was an alliance is destroyed. war was always with the new enemy, your memory was wrong.
sounds a lot like Saddam, then and now. (thanks for the pic, Rummy)
and also the lies about the economy. READ the book.
ProfJIM
09-15-2004, 09:37 PM
“These distraction-ohloics. These focus-ophobics. Old George Orwell got it backward. Big Brother isn’t watching. He’s singing and dancing. He’s pulling rabbits out of a hat. Big Brother’s busy holding your attention every moment you’re awake. He’s making sure you’re always distracted. He’s making sure you’re fully absorbed. He’s making sure your imagination withers. Until it’s as useful as your appendix. He’s making sure your attention is always filled. And this being fed, it’s worse than being watched. With the world always filling you, no one has to worry about what’s in your mind. With everyone’s imagination atrophied, no one will ever be a threat to the world.”
D_Raay
09-16-2004, 01:13 AM
“These distraction-ohloics. These focus-ophobics. Old George Orwell got it backward. Big Brother isn’t watching. He’s singing and dancing. He’s pulling rabbits out of a hat. Big Brother’s busy holding your attention every moment you’re awake. He’s making sure you’re always distracted. He’s making sure you’re fully absorbed. He’s making sure your imagination withers. Until it’s as useful as your appendix. He’s making sure your attention is always filled. And this being fed, it’s worse than being watched. With the world always filling you, no one has to worry about what’s in your mind. With everyone’s imagination atrophied, no one will ever be a threat to the world.”
Where did you get that from?
ChrisLove
09-16-2004, 07:26 AM
When I read 1984, I found the comparison quite shocking, everything done by Big Brother seems to be happening in the US on a much smaller scale, but then I dont think one should nessecarily read that that is the way things are going to go. Its the Bush double speak that I find disconcerting, the War for peace idea.
Also the invention of a fictional (or exagerated beyond belief) enemy with whom their is no option but to fight an unwinnable war with no possibility of resolution is particularly scary in light of that book.
I think that as long as some element of democracy remains in tact then this can not happen, and Bush will never take that in the next 4 years....I hope
Whois
09-16-2004, 09:02 AM
Where did you get that from?
Realized yet that the Bush/Kerry war over who served better is a deliberate distraction?
Keeps us from the real issues...
ProfJIM
09-16-2004, 01:05 PM
ever see Wag the Dog?
D_Raay
09-16-2004, 01:31 PM
ever see Wag the Dog?
Ah, so that's where it's from?
ProfJIM
09-16-2004, 01:46 PM
actually my quote was from a book called Lullaby by Chuck Palanhiuck
but Wag the Dog is a really good example of this idea
D_Raay
09-16-2004, 02:07 PM
actually my quote was from a book called Lullaby by Chuck Palanhiuck
but Wag the Dog is a really good example of this idea
Ok thanks
yeahwho
09-16-2004, 04:51 PM
actually my quote was from a book called Lullaby by Chuck Palanhiuck
Yeah that is good. Sold a book, Thanks ProfJIM
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