What we are in for if we re-elect Bush

[D_Raay]

Numerous writers have compared the Bush tactics with those used by Hitler, while others have documented the connection between Prescott Bush and the Nazis. However, there is much more to what has lead the Bush regime to transform the United Stated into a fascist police state. Few people are aware that it is the Republican Party which paid for Nazi broadcasts in the 1930s or that the GOP employed Nazis in election campaigns. Fewer are aware that Herbert Hoover conspired with top Nazi officials in Berlin to unseat Roosevelt in the 1940 election. Others have forgotten that George Bush senior as chairman of the Republican Party set up the ethnic heritage groups of the party as havens for former Nazis or that he employed known Nazi war criminals on his campaign staff.
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushadmin.html

Several authors have already noted the link between senior members of the Bush administration and the fascist Leo Strauss. However, exploring further the philosophical roots of Bush administration, we see that this connection leads back to the robber barons and the empire of J.P Morgan. Due to the natural congeniality between the robber barons and the corporate state of fascism, most of America's leading industrialists became America's leading supporters of fascism. They were responsible for bringing Hitler to power and for building Hitler's war machine.

Strauss's connections to the neo-cons within the Bush administration are well known at this point. Numerous other neo-cons serving in the Bush administration or the American Enterprise Organization, who funded the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), were students and followers of Strauss. Not only can this be seen in their dictatorial approach but it is also visible in their strong pro-Israeli views. An interesting aspect of Strauss's tenure at the University of Chicago is that it is during his tenure that both David Rockefeller and John Ashcroft received their degrees from the University of Chicago.

The deals with the Nazis were so extensive at Brown Brothers & Harriman that Prescott Bush had 23 firms seized from him for trading with the enemy. Five firms were seized from Bush in 1942, another 18 firms were seized shortly after the war. The 18 firms had been allowed to operate during the war only because seizing them had been judged detrimental to the war effort and their continued operation posed little risk to the Allies.

Aside from his 23 corporations seized for violating the Trading with the Enemy Act, Prescott Bush was a leader in the American eugenic movement. The American eugenic movement was successful in the passage of sterilization laws in many states for anyone judged unfit. These laws served as the basis of the Nuremberg Laws passed by the Nazis. Much of the Nazi eugenic research was funded, even during the war, with money from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. The Harriman's were also large financial backers of the movement.

A recently disclosed top-secret document from the NSC reveals that the NSC staff were instructed to cooperate fully with Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force as it considered the "melding" of two seemingly unrelated areas of policy: "the review of operational policies towards rogue states," such as Iraq, and "actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas fields." The document suggests that Cheney's Energy Task Force was actually a discussion for geostrategic plans for oil, putting the issue of war in the context of the captains of the oil industry sitting down with Cheney and laying grand, global plans. This would confirm Bush's plans for regime change in 60 countries and his support for rebel forces opposing the democratic government of Venezuela as well as the increasing hostility of the Bush administration towards Iran.

Too many people still believe that fascism can't happen here. It is happening here today. The Gestapo is firmly in place in the form of Ashcroft's justice department. The FBI no longer serves to protect the citizens; instead it is being used to protect this regime, by such means as the gagging of Sibel Edmonds, for instance. The FBI is no longer primarily charged with criminal investigation instead its being used to enforce this regime's policies and finally the FBI, other federal law enforcement agencies and the military are illegally spying on anyone opposed to this regime. Moreover, Representative Porter Goss, Bush's choice to head the CIA has introduced legislation that would allow the CIA to conduct operations inside the United States including arbitrary arrests of American citizens.

The time to decide is now, tomorrow may be too late. The corporate state of fascism has risen from the ashes of 9/11 like a giant phoenix. It will consume all that opposes it. The Fourth Reich has risen. Beware. Your life and freedoms depend on it.

[bigkidpants]

The corporate state of fascism has risen from the ashes of 9/11 like a giant phoenix. It will consume all that opposes it. The Fourth Reich has risen. Beware. Your life and freedoms depend on it.
If by 'like a phoenix' you mean that it was reborn, then yes, because it's always been here in one form or another.

Read everything you can by andrew gause (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0965658902/103-9267800-7346209?v=glance). compared to the federal reserve bank, cheney and halliburton is peanuts. that's right, the federal reserve is a PRIVATE corporation that has the exclusive right of creating u.s. money and does so at a profit, what we call the national debt! (the j.p. morgan (http://famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Articles/HistGoldAndSilverAndDebt.htm) connection)

the constitution says that only congress can print money. instead of paying interest to a private corporation we could be making our own money and saving a bundle, so much so that we could probably do away with the income tax. not surprisingly, people with their hands in the trough aren't interested in this idea -- and that includes john kerry. the time is now, but the time for what?

[D_Raay]

the constitution says that only congress can print money. instead of paying interest to a private corporation we could be making our own money and saving a bundle, so much so that we could probably do away with the income tax.
You know it's a shame so few know of this. I read an article recently that confirmed exactly that.
In 1936 (the year of the Butler case) the Federal budget was around six billion dollars. By 1996, the looting of the American taxpayer had pushed the Federal budget to more than 1.6 trillion dollars!
By phasing out governmental activities which are clearly outside the Constitution, the cost of government would be greatly reduced and the income tax could be safely eliminated.
Federal grants are unconstitutional unless directly related to some power specifically delegated to the Federal Government. A strict interpretation of the Constitution would probably wipe out at least 95% of the Federal-aid programs presently plaguing the nation.

[Echewta]

Bush said he is going to change things. I'm looking forward to it. Oh wait, he was already in for 4 years. I see abortion, flag burning, and liberals are still legal. Gay marriage ban isn't in the constitution. School vochers?
But hes running on these ideas and gathering you suckers who believe that the Bible is more important than the Constitution. And he won't do anything again if re-elected because they need these things not to happen so they can always run on them. Besides that courts find these ideas unconstitutional but whatever.

[deita]

If this does come to pass, I fear we are in for 4 more years of a whole lotta shit AND nothing is going to improve.
I tend to be an optimistic person, but if Bush is re-elected I may have to look for a new homeland.
Fuck big brother will be watching, he already is!

[Sidb]

Oh wait, he was already in for 4 years. I see abortion, flag burning, and liberals are still legal. Gay marriage ban isn't in the constitution. School vochers?

Blame Congress and the liberal judges. A President can say whatever he wants, but Congress and the Courts truly rule.

Abortion - majority of the population want "The Right" and you clearly have seen Judges stricting down the law against the "Brain sucking, skull crushing abortion" as being unconstitutional. Congress passed the law banning this form and the Judges say it should be allowed.

Gay - Wake up! If you think the President has any authority or power to stop this movement when Majors of various cities won't abide by the law then you need to learn about the 3 levels of Government again. President- Executive branch - Executes the law. The President doesn't make law. They can hope and press for some laws, but Congress, especially the House have the closes ties to the people and the most to loose if they don't keep their folks happy.

If you want to change/outlaw abortion, flag burning, gay marriage then talk to Congress.

Look to the President to deal with foreign affairs. Kerry will turn our security over to France/Germany - the EU or UN and let them decide our fate.

So, that is what we are in for when Kerry wins in November. He won't know what to or what position, because he can't stick to one. He'll be a puppet to the rest of the world.

May God have mercy on us.

[STANKY808]

Oh wait, he was already in for 4 years. I see abortion, flag burning, and liberals are still legal. Gay marriage ban isn't in the constitution. School vochers?

Blame Congress and the liberal judges. A President can say whatever he wants, but Congress and the Courts truly rule.

Abortion - majority of the population want "The Right" and you clearly have seen Judges stricting down the law against the "Brain sucking, skull crushing abortion" as being unconstitutional. Congress passed the law banning this form and the Judges say it should be allowed.

Gay - Wake up! If you think the President has any authority or power to stop this movement when Majors of various cities won't abide by the law then you need to learn about the 3 levels of Government again. President- Executive branch - Executes the law. The President doesn't make law. They can hope and press for some laws, but Congress, especially the House have the closes ties to the people and the most to loose if they don't keep their folks happy.

If you want to change/outlaw abortion, flag burning, gay marriage then talk to Congress.

Look to the President to deal with foreign affairs. Kerry will turn our security over to France/Germany - the EU or UN and let them decide our fate.

So, that is what we are in for when Kerry wins in November. He won't know what to or what position, because he can't stick to one. He'll be a puppet to the rest of the world.

May God have mercy on us.

A couple of things, first - god is dead and second your post makes very little sense.

[EN[i]GMA]

Presidents influence policy VERY much. Presidents are far more important than they seem on paper. They direct the laws to a great extent.

[Ace42]

Blame Congress and the liberal judges. A President can say whatever he wants, but Congress and the Courts truly rule.

11. President Bush usurped the Constitutional power of Congress as a means of securing power to commit crimes against peace, war crimes, and other high crimes.

President Bush intentionally usurped Congressional power, ignored its authority, and failed and refused to consult with the Congress. He deliberately misled, deceived, concealed and made false representations to the Congress to prevent its free deliberation and informed exercise of legislature power. President Bush individually ordered a naval blockade against Iraq, itself an act of war. He switched U.S. forces from a wholly defensive position and capability to an offensive capacity for aggression against Iraq without consultation with and contrary to assurances given to the Congress. He secured legislation approving enforcement of UN resolutions vesting absolute discretion in any nation, providing no guidelines and requiring no reporting to the UN, knowing he intended to destroy the ammed forces and civilian economy of Iraq. Those acts were undertaken to enable him to commit crimes against peace and war crimes.

The conduct violates the Constitution and laws of the United States, all committed to engage in the other impeachable offenses set forth in this Complaint.

http://www.deoxy.org/wc/warcrim2.htm#11

Since when have presidents listened to the constitution or congress?

[Schmeltz]

God's alive? Prove it.

[STANKY808]

His post maks a great deal of sense. And only a fool will say in his heart there is no God.

God is very much alive!!!!! You will learn this one day. You may choose the easy way or the hard way.


Siko! Where you been? GOD IS DEAD!

Oh and your signature is a misnomer as well. Thanks for playing with yourself!

[sneakyimp]

hey sid and sisko....

has it EVER occured to you that the one true god *might* be Allah? or perhaps Buddha?

And what is this GARBAGE about turning over our national security to France and Germany? Where does that COME from? What is it BASED on?

[Whois]

His post maks a great deal of sense. And only a fool will say in his heart there is no God.

God is very much alive!!!!! You will learn this one day. You may choose the easy way or the hard way.

Cause God will come down and SMITE the ungodly...right?

FEEL THE LOVE!

[ASsman]

Look to the President to deal with foreign affairs. Kerry will turn our security over to France/Germany - the EU or UN and let them decide our fate.
If by this you mean they will decide how cheap oil will be next month....heheh...
Oh wait its called what? UNITED NATIONS? Hmmm I wonder what that means.

And asking sisko to prove the existance of god, is like asking him to prove the Iraq was is justified... It's just not going to happen...

[Echewta]

Blame Congress and the liberal judges. A President can say whatever he wants, but Congress and the Courts truly rule.

What party controls Congress and the Supreme Court right now?

Abortion - majority of the population want "The Right" and you clearly have seen Judges stricting down the law against the "Brain sucking, skull crushing abortion" as being unconstitutional. Congress passed the law banning this form and the Judges say it should be allowed.
Please do a little more research about why the courts struck the law down. Then see who wrote the laws. They were given warning about what they had to put in it for the courts not to block it. But it makes people like you think the courts are all liberal etc., and you vote for them. Way to fall into the trap.

Gay - Wake up! If you think the President has any authority or power to stop this movement when Majors of various cities won't abide by the law then you need to learn about the 3 levels of Government again. President- Executive branch - Executes the law. The President doesn't make law. They can hope and press for some laws, but Congress, especially the House have the closes ties to the people and the most to loose if they don't keep their folks happy.

I thought Congress put it through a vote and it didn't work? Who has the power to press on Congress to have laws pass? What party controls Congress? What party is against gay marriage?


And thats about it. Now that we have assult weapons back, why do you care if Kerry is elected or not? If Iraqis can use assult weapons to hold off the largest and strongest military force in the world, can't we do it as a people as well when France and Germany come over? You don't give us enough credit apparently.

[STANKY808]

His post maks a great deal of sense. And only a fool will say in his heart there is no God.

God is very much alive!!!!! You will learn this one day. You may choose the easy way or the hard way.

A fool? I guess you are so much more in tune than somone like Nietzsche?

I may choose "the easy way or the hard way". Your God is quite threatening isn't it? Why would it want me to learn "the hard way". Sounds mean.

Oh and as for your signature - Abortion is between a woman and her physician and it's none of your busines.

[D_Raay]

They are all in on it together....call me crazy but it's us vs the government. They have found little to no resistance against manipulating us however they want(when they do they are dead i.e. JFK, Martin Luther King, Paul Wellstone). It doesn't matter whatever who we vote for Kerry or Bush or Nader or whoever there is one underlying trait to all of them, dishonesty. We are fooling ourselves to think we are taking part in a democratic process. They knew that wouldn't suit their wants and greed long ago. There are chinks that appear in the armor from time to time , but the sad thing is they know we look to some other figure in government to so something about this. It's very simple for them to then make the illusion of our wants and needs being satisfied when in reality everyone is being fucked except the upper 5% of population. What is wealth anyway? Versus rich I mean? Shaq is wealthy right? No, the guy signing his checks so he can go buy a bouncing Hummer is WEALTHY not Shaq. There is enough wealth in this country for there to be no starvation, no homeless, no poverty but the greedy just won't allow it to happen. It's too important for them to have 5,000 dollar umbrella holders. 5,000 dollar umbrella holder, yes that's right, one corporate crum bum did just that, he bought an umbrella holder for 5,000 that could have fed a poor family for several months. I am angry, I am sorry, but I am angry for you my fellow Beastie Boy posters and for all the decent American citizens that get fucked on a daily basis by this government we have. Fuck George Bush, fuck John Kerry, and fuck the whole American government for that matter. It's not what the wise men who layed out a plan for government intended and it should not be what we intend either.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040917/ap_on_el_pr/nader_3
This link clarifies my point exactly=(