SCALPING

[Daisy]

Just a gentle reminder, there is no scalping allowed on this site.

What is scalping, you might ask? It's selling your tickets for profit. That's what Ebay is for. If you want to sell at face value plus the ticket distributors fees, that's fine but if you are looking to the highest bidder, go elsewhere.

Thank you!

[Daisy]

2 tickets, standing, wembley dec 7th, just £300. PM me.

damaja, my sweet, you win the award for the biggest smart ass on the board.

:)

XO
Daisy

[wavin_goodbye]

thanks for addressing this issue.. maybe one big thread should be made for people wanting to buy and sell tickets..

[Blue Nun]

thanks for addressing this issue.. maybe one big thread should be made for people wanting to buy and sell tickets..One thread with a sticky would be a great idea.

[wavin_goodbye]

indeed, it helps all parties.. people wanting to sell know where the people who are going to buy are going to look and vice versa..

and those not interested in either dont have to have all that extra clutter :)

[Daisy]

One thread would be too confusing. I don't want to read through pages about California dates when I am in New York.

[wavin_goodbye]

but i think people would prefer taking a few extra minutes to see all the available options as opposed to missing them when threads get bumped 2 pages down. just my 2 cents tho. your the boss

[minton]

This site isn't for buying and selling. The occasional thread is ok. Face value only though, like Daisy said.

[Micodin]

This site isn't for buying and selling. The occasional thread is ok. Face value only though, like Daisy said.



I'll buy everything Minton just said for $100 over cost!

[wavin_goodbye]

This site isn't for buying and selling. The occasional thread is ok. Face value only though, like Daisy said.


count how many threads there are involving buying and selling. is that what you call occasional?

[nskk]

yea eather get rid of selling it completely of organize it i already have my tix in worchester and i dont need tix for london just dump it all and make people sell it on ebay (n)

[minton]

count how many threads there are involving buying and selling. is that what you call occasional?

It's a little out of control now. We hardly want to encourage it...I'll look into it all.

[Pootytang]

I think people looking to buy tickets should beable to post threads and let the sellers go to the lookers. It would cut down on alot of rift raft.

[dublirie04]

yup...thank you for sayin it.

[SILVERBEASTIE]

Personally, anyone selling anything on here to do with the BB's is an arsehole...if you're a fan, you don't sell your stuff!! Concert tickets...if you bought one and couldn't go, do a good deed, either give it to a fan who just couldn't afford one, or give to someone who isn't a fan, and maybe, after seeing them live, they'll be hoked as much as we are!

[Aidan Ralph]

Fuck that! If I couldn't go to gig after getting a ticket, I'd at least want to make my money back! I'd only sell it at the price I bought it and all, but give it away?!! Are you fucking insane??!!

[Futterman's]

¿What is Scalping?

[abcdefz]

"Scalping" is selling a ticket for more than its face value plus distribution fees. It's usually when someone buys tickets with no intention of going, but hoping the concert will sell out or the seats will be well-positioned and then become more valuable for those willing to pay the price.

It's generally frowned upon, but I'm not sure exactly why. It's definitely exploitation, but that's the capitalist way; I'm not sure why it's not frowned upon to pay $200 for a rare record that originally sold for $8, but paying $200 for a rare ticket that originally cost $50 is somehow wrong, or "robbing" the artist.

[Laver1969]

"Scalping" is selling a ticket for more than its face value plus distribution fees. It's usually when someone buys tickets with no intention of going, but hoping the concert will sell out or the seats will be well-positioned and then become more valuable for those willing to pay the price.

It's generally frowned upon, but I'm not sure exactly why. It's definitely exploitation, but that's the capitalist way; I'm not sure why it's not frowned upon to pay $200 for a rare record that originally sold for $8, but paying $200 for a rare ticket that originally cost $50 is somehow wrong, or "robbing" the artist.

What is frustrating is when everyone doesn't have an equal opportunity to purchase good seats/tickets. For many many events in the Chicago area, somehow "brokers" get most of the tickets. So it's nearly impossible to purchase good tickets without paying a fortune. There's something wrong with that picture.

[abcdefz]

Yeah -- that part is messed up. But if the tickets were truly open, whether by limiting numbers available for purchase on a first-come-first-served basis or a lottery system, then I don't see what the problem would be, exactly. I mean, I agree that it's dirty and it exploits people who don't have the leverage for the sweetest seats or whatever, but that's free enterprise, right?

It seems like the only way an artist can really cry foul is if it's for a free concert or one in which the ticket prices are clearly slashed so that one of the main aspects of the show is affordability (the $2 shows, canned food donations shows, etc.). But when someone's charging $50 or more when minimum wage in this country is about $8, it seems a bit disingenous to cry about how scalpers (or Ticketmaster, the legal scalpers) are making it too expensive for the fans.

[Laver1969]

Yeah -- that part is messed up. But if the tickets were truly open, whether by limiting numbers available for purchase on a first-come-first-served basis or a lottery system, then I don't see what the problem would be, exactly. I mean, I agree that it's dirty and it exploits people who don't have the leverage for the sweetest seats or whatever, but that's free enterprise, right?


I agree!!! (y)

[wavin_goodbye]

i highly suggest you read this article if you are interested in how the business works, and anything relating to scalping


http://www.u2tours.com/news/article.src?ID=990

(It is not an article about U2)

[abcdefz]

That's just wrong.

...surely Ticketmaster's computers could notice that the same credit card number is being used repeatedly for these buys?


Anyway.

It was kind of a kick to read the first part of that, since that's my area: I've shopped at that Tower Records in Emeryville, etc.

[Laver1969]

i highly suggest you read this article if you are interested in how the business works, and anything relating to scalping


http://www.u2tours.com/news/article.src?ID=990

(It is not an article about U2)

Nice link. So it looks like they just flood the market electronically. :mad:

[wavin_goodbye]

^^ exactly.. it just makes the situation even worse.

i say internet ticket sales have to go .. they screw over the real fans..

making it just phone/lineup wouldn't really do much to scalpers.. but it would help the hardcore fans, who are the ones that really deserve the tickets. the current system is just random.. and someone who wakes up at 11:55 and logs onto ticketmaster has the same chance as someone who has filled out their information weeks in advance in anticipation of the event.

[abcdefz]

...maybe it's at the point where each CD will have to come with some sort of coupon that can't be easily counterfieted; then the coupon will have to be presented at the ticket window for purchase of up to, say, four tickets.

Maybe something like that would help CD sales instead of downloads, too.

Then, after, say, a half-hour window, the remaining tickets would be released to the general public.

[wavin_goodbye]

haha thats getting really complicated...


so many problems with that .. going to multiple shows, tours in several legs, tours without new cds .. etc.

[abcdefz]

Good point.

Okay: just give all the tickets to me and I'll dole them out properly.

It'll be a hassle, but I'm happy to help.

[wavin_goodbye]

now theres an idea!

[b-grrrlie]

Here in Sweden the tickets for U2 have the buyers name on the ticket, so you'd have to find someone with the same name to sell it to. You could buy the tickets on the net, but for Bruce Springsteen they went a step further: You could only get tickets by personally buying them from the venue's own ticket office. You could buy two tickets at the most and the tickets have your name on it.

[Laver1969]

Here in Sweden the tickets for U2 have the buyers name on the ticket, so you'd have to find someone with the same name to sell it to. You could buy the tickets on the net, but for Bruce Springsteen they went a step further: You could only get tickets by personally buying them from the venue's own ticket office. You could buy two tickets at the most and the tickets have your name on it.

Is it relatively easy to get tickets? Does everyone have an equal opportunity to get good seats?

In other words, does the extra security help you? or is it just a pain in the ass?

[abcdefz]

Just a gentle reminder, there is no scalping allowed on this site.

What is scalping, you might ask? It's selling your tickets for profit. That's what Ebay is for. If you want to sell at face value plus the ticket distributors fees, that's fine but if you are looking to the highest bidder, go elsewhere.

Thank you!



...I have a City of Berkeley parking ticket for sale. It's a $30 ticket.

Let's start the bidding at $50.

Fiddy-fiddy-fiddy-fiddy-doIhearfiddydollars-fiddy-fiddy-fiddy...

[b-grrrlie]

Is it relatively easy to get tickets? Does everyone have an equal opportunity to get good seats?

In other words, does the extra security help you? or is it just a pain in the ass?
For Bruce it was first come first served, and there was loads of tickets left in the afternoon. We've got Ticnet, which is similar to Ticketmaster, but the charges are nothing compared to US! Usually it's easy to get tickets, the only gig I've had trouble getting tickets to is Lou Reed next week, which I still don't have a ticket to.... :(

[Pootytang]

The scalpers have hit ebay for the U.S. leg of the new tour. I REALLY HATE SCALPERS.

[MC Drop]

Ok check it out this is my plan. I think you can buy a max of 6 tickets at a time is it? or is it 4 I forget. Anyway the plan is this. Im going to take my ticket and see the show. Im gonna take the second ticket and sell it to the rich scrub who is gonna support my broke ass. And the other to im gonna sell for 100 a pop to support the other 2 ticks im gonna give a way way at the show for 2 true beasties fan who drove the furthest with out tickets.

[kll]

what a peach