237 Iraq Lies

[EN[i]GMA]

http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108_2/pdfs_inves/pdf_admin_iraq_on_the_record_rep.pdf

Read.

[QueenAdrock]

I'd like to point something out: "Most of the statements in the database were misleading because they expressed certainty where none existed or failed to acknowledge the doubts of intelligence officials. Ten of the statements were simply false."

Mr. Gizmo who keeps saying "There's no proof of Bush lying!" Well, how do you refute this? There is no way in hell anyone can call this "left wing" propaganda, because this is an unbiased official government document.

Hahaha, owned yet again. Thanks EN[I]GMA. (y)

[EN[i]GMA]

No probs. This link kicks the ass.

[ASsman]

Gizco should set his phaser on kill, and point it at himself.

[DroppinScience]

Mr. Gizmo who keeps saying "There's no proof of Bush lying!" Well, how do you refute this? There is no way in hell anyone can call this "left wing" propaganda, because this is an unbiased official government document

Government?!? You gonna believe the LIBERAL GOVERNMENT! You may as well be watching Dan Rather and CBS, TRAITOR!!

[SobaViolence]

Look Bush did not lie. Edwards was wrong about WMD's, so was Bush, Blair, Kerry, Clinton, the CIA and countless others. With the info Bush had, he had to act.

so, bush was wrong, but he didn't lie. he chose to believe only a certain minority in the intelligence community, shrugged off the rest, showed contempt for the UN weapon inspectors, only to have american weapon inspectors tell him the same thing. ignored international law and the international community, isolated the muslim world and every progressive nation on the planet and converted the republican party into a neo-crusading right-wing evangelical hotbed.

but he had to act.

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."
Johann von Goethe

[D_Raay]

Look Bush did not lie. Edwards was wrong about WMD's, so was Bush, Blair, Kerry, Clinton, the CIA and countless others. With the info Bush had, he had to act.
I think it's funny that even Sisko is trying to generalize now. "There was no malice intended in that lie, honest, everybody believed the same lie". BULLSHIT. One big heaping mound of BULLSHIT. It smells like an anchovy's cunt. Are we to ask to much of our government to make damn sure they are INVADING a sovereign nation on genuine facts?! This should have been explored and investigated thoroughly before a single drop of blood was spilt. It was the immediacy of the threat that lead us in so quickly right? BULLSHIT. Iraq didn't attack us, Al-Quaeda did. Saudi's attacked us, but they weren't a threat right? Of course not. You right wing fellows that traverse here are dead in the water wrong about this war. Always have been always will be.

[STANKY808]

Spin Spin Spin the wheel!!! It was not a minority on the intelligence community that Bush believed. He believed our own CIA. (Didn't Clinton appoint the former director of the CIA?) He Believed Blair and British intel. A great deal of the Middle East said Saddam had WMD's.

Your pal Edwards sais him self in 2003 that we can't afford to leave Saddam like he sits.
Saddam even used WMD's on his own people. We all know he had them. Be honest!!!!
Well siko, how can you explain Colin and Condi saying -

Colin Powell in Cairo February 24, 2001:
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours."

Condoleeza Rice, July 2001:
"We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."

Why did this change? You are clearly a sheep who will believe whatever he wants to with no regard for facts! If you do a search on the net, you can find plenty of people that disputed the claims of W before the invasion.

All this aside, is anyone else concerned that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan will happen again? I'm talking about propping up dictators like in Uzbekistan where the leader is said to have boiled people alive!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internati...63497%2C00.html

Sounds like a bad dude, but he's supported by the US. So down the road when he is no longer convenient, will there be another pre-emptive invasion?

[SobaViolence]

they are very bad at controlling history, these neocons...

[QueenAdrock]

Bush did not lie, no one can prove he lied. Even Kerry will say he did not lie.
Thanks for playin!!!

Actually, if you knew how to read, you would see that the unbiased source SAYS Bush lied. He said things that were misleading, and were simply false.

I believe that even if Bush himself came out and said he lied, you would still say he didn't. Is there anything that can get you to believe otherwise? Biased sources don't convince you, and sources that are unbiased and government documents don't convince you, which is why I say you're a stubborn jackass.

Enjoy your stay. :rolleyes:

[STANKY808]

Are you really that slow?

The BUSH administration (by way of Condi and Colin) said NO WEAPONS! Just because they changed their minds later does not negate the fact that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION SAID NO WEAPONS (could it be a flip-flop)! Now list all those you would like that got on board with the Iraq war, it will not change history.

What about the other monsters Bush is propping up? You have not addressed that at all. America created the Taliban (nee Mujahadeen) and America propped up Saddam against Iran. Now they have to clean up the mess THEY CREATED! The question is, what is being done right now to prevent these types of states (as in Uzbekistan) developing into threats such as Iran and Syria?

You got nothin'!

[ASsman]

Kind of agree with this guy here. Maybe Bush will make this evil empire fall.


IMAD KHADDURI - (Democracy Now! Interview)
To me, the whole truth about Iraq is so horrible that it would even sink Kerry instantaneously. Because he is a 'me-too' candidate. The best hope for the rest of the world, apparently, I have come to believe, is that Bush should win and sink the whole empire into complete isolation and hopefully into its perdition. Now, you see, the problem is not that the problems or the causes are not known. We know them better every day. The problem is that those causing the world's miseries are powerfully and deeply entrenched in their positions of power, and that it would take massive, sustained violence, unfortunately, to dislodge them.

[QueenAdrock]

If Bush lied, then Edwards told the same lie!

So by that theory, you think that if Bush told the truth, so did Edwards. Uh-oh, looks like you're siding with a LIBERAL!

And you always have to do the best with the information you have? Well, by that theory, why aren't we invading Saudi Arabia? 15 of the 9/11 hijackers are from Saudi Arabia, they're housing many terrorists. We HAVE that information. We KNOW that they are a breeding ground for terrorists. Please tell me why we're not invading Saudi Arabia. I'll give you the answer: they have America by the balls because they have control of the oil supply.

It doesn't matter about "information" in America.

[ASsman]

Well you can't really have just a flip, it has to be a flop aswell. So you can't call two things a flip-flop. Only one, because the original "position" would not have anything to do with changing that same position. But, if that position is changed, then that action is called a "flip-flop" you can't ignore the hyphen. However stupid or ignorant you are.

And if you continue with your bullshit. I might bring out some of my own bulshit. Like how Bush had thanksgiving with the Osamas. Or how he met up with the Taliban. Or maybe how he contracted genital herpes from Saddam Hussein. EXPLAIN THAT GOVERNATOR!

[QueenAdrock]

I still wasn't answered by Gizmo on why we didn't invade Saudi Arabia. (!)