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Rancid_Beasties
10-09-2004, 06:29 AM
Is anybody on here watching the Australian election?

I was sure labor would at least challenge the liberals, but it looks like we've got another 4 years of sucking up to George Bush (unless he gets booted, fingers crossed).

Is anybody else here pissed off with the direction of both party's campaigns? The liberal party focused entirely on homeowners. What about those of us who rent or already own our homes? We don't benefit from low interest rates. In fact, its to our detriment if we have money invested it banks etc. As for the poorest of the poor, that group continues to grow in Australia and yet they seem to vote for liberal. As for labor, it was too piss weak. It didn't attack the blatant flaws of Howard as a prime minister, and didn't push the fact that Latham wouldn't have been in charge of the economy personally. It was interest rates that won it in my opinion which is short sighted and down right stupid.

Dont get me started on the family first party. If theres anything I hate its conservative christians. Especially when by definition conservative christians are either baptists or anglicans or something, when conservative should be catholic because thats the original isn't it. I must admit I am a christian but I see nothing Christian in wanting to burn down mosques and temples and kill all homosexuals as some of the members for family first have been calling for. Yet they beat out the democrats, a party that can't even get 2% of the vote with someone as hot as Natasha Stott-Despoja or whatever her name is. Anyway thats my rant and i'm willing to have an argument with some liberal party person or preferably family first/one nation party supporter because I'm mildly pissed!!! :mad: :( :mad:

Ace42
10-09-2004, 03:09 PM
Is anybody on here watching the Australian election?

Totally unrepresented AFAIK... Surprised it slipped under the radar. Most informationz plz thnxz.


I was sure labor would at least challenge the liberals, but it looks like we've got another 4 years of sucking up to George Bush (unless he gets booted, fingers crossed).

My uncle came on one of his deci-annual whistlestop tours of "the old country" repleat with Australian Vino, and was quite informative of the political situation in Australia. He said that economic factors were the order of the day, and thus (against his best wishes) Bush was going to be the majority order of the day. He also mentioned energy issues IIRC. Personally, what with the Outback having some of the emptiest widest unused and unusable spaces of barren land going cheap, I am surprised that solar power on an unprecedented scale is not order of the day.

If theres anything I hate its conservative christians. Especially when by definition conservative christians are either baptists or anglicans or something

Anglicans? Are a lot of Australians church of England followers? Aren't CoE followers supposed to be progressive? They certainly are one of the more progressive churches in the UK...

I must admit I am a christian but I see nothing Christian in wanting to burn down mosques and temples and kill all homosexuals

Are you sure it is Anglicans? This doesn't sound like any Anglican theology that I am aware of.

Rancid_Beasties
10-09-2004, 10:37 PM
Yeah you're right, it's not the anglicans, I mentioned them by accident in my tired and disappointed state. Although I heard the catholic Archbishop of Melbourne today talk about the family first party in a positive light :( which was a little disturbing.

I was just on a bit of a rant, (hence why i also said 4 years when a politcal term is 3 in Australia) so dont take offense anglicans. Or any religion for that matter unless you're a neo-conservative, xenophobic person like so many seem to be today.

I saw a documentary on Bush's religious beliefs that quoted him saying that unless your a born again christian then you'll rot in hell no matter if your catholic, jewish or whatever. Strange how he likes to keep his religious opinions to himself nowadays. I thought christianity taught tolerance, especially towards those who essentially believe in the same god (lets not forget the undeniable links between catholics, jews, muslims, budhists etc).

As for solar energy, our Prime Minister who just got re-elected pulled alot of money out of solar energy and threw it into oil and gas, before that we were quite progressive especially in the solar car field. Now we're stealing oil from a third world country, East Timor (there were ads on tv in Australia about it, and they weren't bullshitting, its really quite bad what we're doing).

hitmonlee
10-10-2004, 11:28 PM
fucked up.
absolutely fucked up.
liberals hold the majority of seats in the house of reps and the senate
they can legislate whatever the fuck they want.

i'm so disappointed in australia :(

Pres Zount
10-11-2004, 06:02 AM
Really, really sad. :(

Such a big margin too. wtf australia sucks. :(

zorra_chiflada
10-11-2004, 06:10 AM
i'm so disappointed in australia :(

likewise. i want to renounce my citizenship and move to new zealand.
our country is going down the shitter.

infidel
10-11-2004, 08:28 AM
It's hard for any country to vote for change in leadership when they're in the middle of their biggest economic boom ever.

hellojello
10-13-2004, 09:09 PM
It's hard for any country to vote for change in leadership when they're in the middle of their biggest economic boom ever.

dont u mean its hard for a county to vote for a change of leadership when the majourity of the poeple make up their minds on electionday based on the ads they saw on tv?? the liberals spent 10million on the first day of the campaign and 100million in the first week. meanwhile australia can't seem to afford to pay disabled people the pension anymore. try telling the 3 million australins living below the poverty line that we're in the middle of the biggest economic boom ever.

DroppinScience
10-13-2004, 11:29 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't hear much about the Australian election.

ALL that I heard was that John Howard was struggling to get re-elected on the campaign trail because of Iraq (otherwise, it would have been an easy win).

The next thing I heard was that he was newly re-elected and I thought to myself: "Dammit!" :mad:

You're gonna have to fill me in. How wide were the margins? Was it a decisive victory? Did he squeak by? At the very least, will there be a strong opposition in the Australian govt.?

Hang in there, Aussies. Hopefully your shitbag of a Prime Minister will be caught in a scandal or something. That mofo is a douchebag. (n)

hellojello
10-13-2004, 11:49 PM
Unfortunately, I didn't hear much about the Australian election.
You're gonna have to fill me in. How wide were the margins? Was it a decisive victory? Did he squeak by? At the very least, will there be a strong opposition in the Australian govt.?
(n)
the margins were 2 big the victory was 2 decisive the opposition lost seats the family first part gained seats (MOTTO: WE MUST FIGHT THE STRONGHOLDS OF SATAN - GAMBLING OUTLETS BROTHELS AND MOSQUES)
the government has a majourity in both the senate and the house of reprasentatives. no hope for a double dissoloution now.
im moving to canada

DroppinScience
10-14-2004, 12:20 AM
the margins were 2 big the victory was 2 decisive the opposition lost seats the family first part gained seats (MOTTO: WE MUST FIGHT THE STRONGHOLDS OF SATAN - GAMBLING OUTLETS BROTHELS AND MOSQUES)
the government has a majourity in both the senate and the house of reprasentatives. no hope for a double dissoloution now.
im moving to canada

Really shitty.

Yeah, you can bunk in my attic, hellojello. ;)

I hope you don't mind, I already got some Americans on reserve to come up here if Bush is re-elected. ;)

hellojello
10-14-2004, 01:15 AM
Really shitty.

Yeah, you can bunk in my attic, hellojello. ;)

I hope you don't mind, I already got some Americans on reserve to come up here if Bush is re-elected. ;)

LOL im not surprised ^^^
thanx :D

scotty
10-14-2004, 07:33 AM
The Liberals (which are actually conservative) won in an increased majority, from 16 to 24 seats (I think) in the lower house. Thats bad enough. The shitflavored icing on this cake is that they also now control the upper house. This means that they can put through any crazy piece of legislation they can think up.

So, we're thinking of going to New Zealand (me), Canada (my son), or France (my wife).

Pres Zount
10-14-2004, 07:40 AM
I'm thinking of going insane (me), and to prison (my mum).

zorra_chiflada
10-14-2004, 07:49 AM
i want to go to another planet.

uranus would be less shitty than this one.