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cramlow
10-20-2004, 10:27 PM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. we are a soverin nation. to do as we please. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. and did we pass a "global test" to do that. no we did what we felt was right for the country. where do you want to fight the war, here or over there. its going to happen you just have to pick where. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!

Pootytang
10-20-2004, 10:29 PM
. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. You must have never seen Animal House, John Belushi told us that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

paulb
10-20-2004, 10:30 PM
Fuck Bush... but everyone is entitled to their opinion.... although i am very against him.

cosmo105
10-20-2004, 10:32 PM
ahem

political forum

kthnx

SCBstylee
10-20-2004, 10:43 PM
cramlow, you're setting yourself up to get attacked by a pack of rabid animals, i mean liberals. just the mere mention of "bush" sets them off, be careful. :rolleyes:

pass_the_mic
10-20-2004, 11:55 PM
um............................ wrong forum

stillill
10-21-2004, 12:11 AM
Alias, this is not a legitimate post. If it is I apologize. Although it wouldn't surprise me that a G.W. supporter would post in the wrong forum and misspell sovereign. :p

checkyourprez
10-21-2004, 12:26 AM
the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us.


dude get real, we were going to get into it sooner or later regaurdless, no one attacked us in WWI and we still got in ( there are things that obvi tipped the scale but still no one attacked us). and about WWII you really think we would have sit back and let more innocent people get gassed like that. annnd if we dont step in when we do germany possibly topples UK and by the time we get into the war its too late and we're all now living in a world of blond haired blue eyed people.

zorra_chiflada
10-21-2004, 06:06 AM
i think it's an alias.
if it isn't...well, i mean everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that opinion is fucked. (n)

cheezdoodle
10-21-2004, 06:06 PM
You must have never seen Animal House, John Belushi told us that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
;) (y)

kid fresh
10-21-2004, 06:09 PM
Alias, this is not a legitimate post. If it is I apologize. Although it wouldn't surprise me that a G.W. supporter would post in the wrong forum and misspell sovereign. :p



ha! good one. (y)

BSTEGRL
10-21-2004, 06:59 PM
Umm, why are you using WWII to validate your opinion of Bush??

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 07:35 PM

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 07:38 PM
The beasties don't really like GW Bush but they really don't like Kerry and will end up voting BUSH. You see people, with nobody else having a solid chance at winning other than these 2, the BB will choose the lesser of the evils---they will put an X next to GW Bush.

(hey, at least Bush will protect us)

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 07:40 PM
wints

I'm stoned

BSTEGRL
10-21-2004, 07:42 PM
I can tell your stoned...your getting all serious and "philosophical" and shit!

59 Chrystie St.
10-21-2004, 07:43 PM
wints

I'm stoned

must be the bomb

RaZoRbLaDe KiSs
10-21-2004, 07:44 PM
ahem

political forum

kthnx
what the fuck?? who let the bitches into the fucking free section!?!
boo! get the fuck out! whore!! :mad: (n)

jdawg77
10-21-2004, 07:44 PM
as a non religious female, I could never in good conscience vote for Bush again. I don't like Nader and Kerry to me is the lesser of 3 evils.


If you read last week's editorials by Adrock and Mike D in Rollingstone you would clearly know that they are voting KERRY!!!!!!!!!

WhoMoi?
10-21-2004, 07:51 PM
So you're voting for Kerry? Good for you. But then don't put a little red 'no' hand by his name... it's misleading....

I've read a lot of your posts now Wints...and I can't help but wonder, are you like a moderator intern? :D

jdawg77
10-21-2004, 07:52 PM
ok Wints I fixed it, oopsie :p

beastie_dee
10-21-2004, 07:54 PM
never never never

(n)

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 07:55 PM
Damn. I was gearing up for a good fight. :(


...but still, as much as the BB dislike Bush they REALLY dislike Kerry more. I mean, how can U support a guy who can't throw a baseball from the pitchers mound to home plate.

So, from what my sources tell me, the BB will vote Bush because of default.

at least Bush cares...right?

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 07:56 PM
never never never

(n)


They have no choice but to vote Bush...Kerry is worse.

EF shhhh Hutton
10-21-2004, 08:01 PM
a planet without Sadaam in charge?

SCBstylee
10-21-2004, 08:02 PM
as a non religious female, I could never in good conscience vote for Bush again.


why if bush mentions god, he's a religious fanatic and dangerous but if kerry mentions it, nobody says anything. bill clinton mentioned god waaaaaay more than bush in public (they compared the numbers on the news), but the excuse liberals made was that clinton "didn't mean it." the difference is that bush actually is religious and cares/respects god while kerry just talks about god in hopes that he'll get a religious swing voter or a religious democrat moderate to vote for him. he'll manipulate and use anything or anyone for a vote.

jdawg77
10-21-2004, 08:03 PM
before we argue more about how someone we have never met is going to vote, let's read an article that was written by Adrock and Mike D, where they clearly state: "I don't see why he (Bush) should be running a baseball team, let alone be president" Adrock

"John Kerry offers the promise of returning to the democratic system I was brought up believing in" Mike D



if u want the article from Rolling Stone I will e-mail it to u!

October 14, 2004-Issue No. 959

RaZoRbLaDe KiSs
10-21-2004, 08:19 PM
Yeah, it was posted on here. They've said many times that they're supporting Kerry, and if you think they're liars and hypocrites, then you don't belong on this board.
FUCK BUSH AND KERRY! D AND YAUCH FOR PREZ BITCHES! YEEEAAHH! :p (y)

frauhornblower
10-21-2004, 08:48 PM
I saw the Beasties in ATL and NO and found myself giving my favorite band the bird when they emplored the audience to vote for Kerry. I love the beasties but I can't jive with flushing our country down the toilet.

beastieboylover
10-21-2004, 08:53 PM
gEORGE bUSH SUCKS MAJOR ASS!!!! :mad: (n)

frauhornblower
10-21-2004, 08:58 PM
Sorry did I enter the wrong forum? Wasn't this beastie fans FOR bush?

RaZoRbLaDe KiSs
10-21-2004, 08:58 PM
gEORGE bUSH SUCKS MAJOR ASS!!!! :mad: (n)
learn how to spell, type and come up with good ideas/threads/posts you fucking knob! no more mrs. nice yauch!!~~

beastieboylover
10-21-2004, 09:01 PM
who?

frauhornblower
10-21-2004, 09:03 PM
Wow! Friendly crowd. Living fully up to my expectations...of liberals.

BSTEGRL
10-21-2004, 09:33 PM
Why does everyone think you have to be a liberal to dislike Bush?

loose_endz
10-21-2004, 09:34 PM
...but still, as much as the BB dislike Bush they REALLY dislike Kerry more. I mean, how can U support a guy who can't throw a baseball from the pitchers mound to home plate.

So, from what my sources tell me, the BB will vote Bush because of default.

at least Bush cares...right?


that's what we all look for in a leader...their ability to throw a baseball!!! :rolleyes:

sethomas
10-21-2004, 09:41 PM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!


honestly....I agree out of everyone in the nation, i dont think i would hand=pick John Kerry to be the president, but given the only "real" choices, its the best we got...ya know? and i agree, i love the beasties as well....but c-mon....you can support Bush, thats mos def your own view and i respect it.....but to say you "love" the guy? shits wack.


"GO BUSH"

my sentiments exactly....[but go...where?] ;)

muchbeastielove
10-21-2004, 09:43 PM
ooooo fuck no!!!! what brand of crack are you smoking?! George Bush is terrible! (n)

cramlow
10-21-2004, 10:34 PM
do you like waffles??? because john kerry has a ton of them. hes now a hunter in ohio to try to get the gun vote, in detroit he had an suv, to the tree huggers it was just the car they gave him on the campain. kerry wants to put the fait of the usa in the hands of the un. should i go on????? and you guys from canada, hows your national health care comming??? :rolleyes:

RootDowner
10-21-2004, 10:46 PM
This Government Needs a Tuneup

J-Syxx
10-22-2004, 11:48 AM
Really I'm an idependent and gave it good consideration. But Bush really gave me no reasons to vote for him at all.

Yauch
10-22-2004, 12:45 PM
this is really silly. the person who started this thread must be working for the bush campaign.

mike and adam and i (and pretty much everyone else that i know) are going to vote for kerry. you would really have to be half a moron to vote for bush.

bush is a lunatic. he is not making our country safer, he is making it more vulnerable. the more that he uses our troops to lash out vengefully without support from the rest of the world, the angrier the rest of the world becomes at the united states. and when the whole world is mad at us, (as they are now, take it from someone that travels a lot) we are not safe.

bush didn't go into iraq because of 911. saddam had nothing to do with 911. and he didn't go into iraq to make us safer, because the administration lied about the WMD's being there. and he didn't go there to free the iraqi people because there are oppressed people all over the world that he clearly doesn't care about and is not trying to free.

he went after saddam because he wanted to show his dad that he was tough, or to get the oil, or to make a lot of money for halliburton, or to try to get himself reelected, or all of the above.

please get off the crazy notion that bush is going to make us safer. that fool is going to get people killed.

let's get out there in nov and send that ass back to texas.

beastie fresh
10-22-2004, 12:49 PM
this is really silly. the person who started this thread must be working for the bush campaign.

mike and adam and i (and pretty much everyone else that i know) are going to vote for kerry. you would really have to be half a moron to vote for bush.

bush is a lunatic. he is not making our country safer, he is making it more vulnerable. the more that he uses our troops to lash out vengefully without support from the rest of the world, the angrier the rest of the world becomes at the united states. and when the whole world is mad at us, (as they are now, take it from some that travels a lot) we are not safe.

bush didn't go into iraq because of 911. saddam had nothing to do with 911. and he didn't go after iraq to make us safer, because the administration lied about the WMD's being there.

he went after saddam because he wanted to show his dad that he was tough, or to get the oil, or to make a lot of money for halliburton, or to try to get himself reelected, or all of the above.

please get off the crazy notion that bush is going to make us safer. that fool is going to get people killed.

let's get out there in nov and send that ass back to texas.

Id rather have a president that removes a problem then a president that would just shoots spit balls

Extra Cheese
10-22-2004, 12:51 PM
that fool is going to get people killed..


and by that i'm sure you mean he's going to get even more people killed.

killed in a war that hasnt been justified

bdavid
10-22-2004, 12:52 PM
It won't happen though. Bush will be re-elected, like it or not. And who the hell even knows what John Kerry stands for anyway. If you're going to make the argument that you're more or less voting against Bush so be it, but I can't imagime being a fervent Kerry supporter based on policy.

Burnout18
10-22-2004, 12:59 PM
the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us.


FDR had intelligence that pointed to an attack on Sunday December 7th, but he did nothing, hoping that this would rally the country so America could join the world war. War would help the still struggling economy definately recover from the great depression.

So by comparing Pearl Harbor to 9-11, which it looks like your doing, your saying that bush knew about the attack? shitty aproval ratings and a stuggling economy... thats wat W had before 9-11. So are you saying that Bush would want to fix the economy the same way FDR did, by war?

Look at whats going on now, all bush has is his tax breaks for the rich and his fight against terrorism, that he started. Which he sucks at anyways cause he says Bin laden is no longer imporatant... gee i at least want a president who wants to capture bin laden.

Extra Cheese
10-22-2004, 01:01 PM
the difference is that bush actually is religious and cares/respects god.

him being religious, fine,whatever. but when he forgets the whole seperation of church and state thing, thats when theres a probelm. when he elects judges on the strength of them making bible based decisions thats when theres a problem. when he completely ignores what the constitution says and wants to run the country according to his religious beliefs thats when theres a problem

pshabi
10-22-2004, 02:19 PM
They have no choice but to vote Bush...Kerry is worse.
Dude, ok, now I'm sure your serious.

You really think they would go on TV and say "Fuck Bush," Go to every concert and say, "don't vote for Bush" and then vote for Bush. MCA was supporting Nader for god's sake last election and you think they won't vote Kerry because he doesn't have a chance?

And by the way, Adrock supports Kerry and I know that becaue he said "Kerry" in the back ground when Mike D said "it's the year 2004 and still no one to vote for" in skills to pay the bills on the Las Vegas $2 bill show.

pshabi
10-22-2004, 02:23 PM
Look, I put a lot of cred into anything the Beastie Boys say. Why, because I'm not just a fan of the music, but them as people,and I think they're great.

Even all their musings still didn't ge me to register(although I began regretting that yesterday, really).

But if Yauch threw his hat in the ring, I'd personally quit my job and work on his campaign for free.

Yauch in '08!!!!!1

I'm serious.
FUCK BUSH AND KERRY! D AND YAUCH FOR PREZ BITCHES! YEEEAAHH! :p (y)

laserx54
10-22-2004, 02:26 PM
once again another neocon who equates 911 with Iraq.

the global test refers to the invasion of iraq

the subsequent bombings of Afghanistan were not going to be contingent on a global test.

kid fresh
10-22-2004, 02:32 PM
there was this guy on my local tv station talking about this. he said that since bush has been in office, the US hasn't changed...if anything, things involving the US have gotten worse. and that's why he's voting for kerry; because he really has nothing to lose since bush has been in office.

paulb
10-22-2004, 03:10 PM
Yauch, your words are so true! Thanks alot for sharing them with us, and try to get that Bush spy outta here.

cramlow
10-22-2004, 07:40 PM
him being religious, fine,whatever. but when he forgets the whole seperation of church and state thing, thats when theres a probelm. when he elects judges on the strength of them making bible based decisions thats when theres a problem. when he completely ignores what the constitution says and wants to run the country according to his religious beliefs thats when theres a problem

please tell me where you find " seperation of church and state" in any law or bill. cause it isnt in the Constitution i know that much? oh yeah this country is a republic not a democracy and you know you dont actually vote for the pres. you vote to tell the electorial college how you want them to cast their votes.

cramlow
10-22-2004, 07:49 PM
no all it says is that there should be no national church, no one is punished if you dont go, dont believe. thats basicaly it

jdawg77
10-22-2004, 07:52 PM
I figured it would not be long before a Beastie Boy posted on this matter! ;)

A lot of what is wrong with proposal 2 and a lot of bullshit in the country is that there is suppose to be a separation of church and state. So using the bIble or religion or even GOD in an argument is bullshit. Cause not everyone believes in God or your "religion" I dont force my non religious views on you so don't force your religious views on me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that, I just wish God and religion was not always involved....



Sorry I am rambling, had a point but gone now :confused:

cramlow
10-22-2004, 08:03 PM
who know who SHOULD be the pres. but you want the most liberal man alive to run the country. i fear that day, the day when kerry becomes the pres. you think its bad now, his health plan alone will bankrupt the country, intrest rates will rise, and you think kerry has this magic job wand that will create new jobs, with out outsorseing the price of everything will be too high. so just plan for the day, i want to decide what i do where i go, "from each according to their means, to each according to their need"

Clarence89
10-22-2004, 08:24 PM
I respect you for voicing your opinion cremlow, and formulating your own thoughts on politics. I know alot of beastie fans just go along with what the b boys say about politics and don't look at both sides of the picture. All though I am voting for Kerry, but not becuase the beasties told me. The beasties entertain me, not tell me who to vote for.

Clarence89
10-22-2004, 08:28 PM
Sorry, but do you really think you're that unusual in that respect?

Compared to alot of people on the message board, umm yup.

Bgurl_54
10-22-2004, 10:13 PM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. we are a soverin nation. to do as we please. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. and did we pass a "global test" to do that. no we did what we felt was right for the country. where do you want to fight the war, here or over there. its going to happen you just have to pick where. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!


i know that im only 13 and have no buisness in this but it REALLY astonishes me that kerry says he can LOWER taxes AND pay for free schooling.....how can he do that if our taxes PAY for schooling?? I know he doesnt have enough pocket money to do that himself. So, taxes pay for school and if he lowers taxes how are we supposed to get schooled for free? I think he is highly confused.

Extra Cheese
10-22-2004, 10:20 PM
please tell me where you find " seperation of church and state" in any law or bill. cause it isnt in the Constitution i know that much? oh yeah this country is a republic not a democracy and you know you dont actually vote for the pres. you vote to tell the electorial college how you want them to cast their votes.

president bush took an oath to "preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states"

the seperation of church and state is in the first amendment when its says government wont make laws dealing with religion or prohibiting freedom of religion. when the president wants to ban abortion because of what his bible says that is disobeying the first amendment and disobeying the oath he took as president. when he makes a big thing about gays getting married because of what his bible says he is going against the constitution and the presidential oath.


you think its bad now, his health plan alone will bankrupt the country, intrest rates will rise, and you think kerry has this magic job wand that will create new jobs, with out outsorseing the price of everything will be too high.

bankrupt the country? the current president managed to turn a government surplus into one of the worse deficits ever.

interest rates will rise.. will the numbers rise as high as the number of uninsured americans under bush...

this president wants everyone to kiss his ass for creating new jobs that are inferior to the jobs lost under his administration. and he has to make create a shitload more of jobs to get back to even with the jobs he has lost. is kerry the answer? i dont know but its abundently clear that bush is doing more harm than good for the majority of people living in this country.

cAm
10-23-2004, 12:59 AM
this is really silly. the person who started this thread must be working for the bush campaign.

mike and adam and i (and pretty much everyone else that i know) are going to vote for kerry. you would really have to be half a moron to vote for bush.

bush is a lunatic. he is not making our country safer, he is making it more vulnerable. the more that he uses our troops to lash out vengefully without support from the rest of the world, the angrier the rest of the world becomes at the united states. and when the whole world is mad at us, (as they are now, take it from someone that travels a lot) we are not safe.

bush didn't go into iraq because of 911. saddam had nothing to do with 911. and he didn't go into iraq to make us safer, because the administration lied about the WMD's being there. and he didn't go there to free the iraqi people because there are oppressed people all over the world that he clearly doesn't care about and is not trying to free.

he went after saddam because he wanted to show his dad that he was tough, or to get the oil, or to make a lot of money for halliburton, or to try to get himself reelected, or all of the above.

please get off the crazy notion that bush is going to make us safer. that fool is going to get people killed.

let's get out there in nov and send that ass back to texas.

(y) (y) (y)

Rodie
10-23-2004, 01:38 AM
Really I'm an idependent and gave it good consideration. But Bush really gave me no reasons to vote for him at all.

While I am a democrat, I can accept the fact that a Republican may be better qualified to run this country, however this is certainly not the election that one could argue that (well you could, and that's what started this, but it boggles my mind that so many people do). Anyways, like you said, he gave me no reasons to vote for him at all. What do the Bush supporters argue. All I hear from them is that "the world is safer." The only thing Bush has going for him is this war, and he's convinced enough people that it is going well to get him enough support so that he may win. You see, I'm only 20, and yes I was impressioned by my family into being a democrat. But I wasn't content with voting for Kerry because my parents said so, so I looked into it. I've read some books, I read the news everyday, I watched the debates, and I look at the polls. But what has Bush to offer? As Kerry says, it's more of the same. Republican or democrat or independent, no one can argue that this country is better of now that it was four years ago. That is a stone cold fact. Before I got informed I was simply "Anyone but Bush '04," however now I am very strongly "Kerry/Edwards '04."

Bush is a terrible president. I guarantee if he hadn't started this war, this election would go to Kerry, no contest. But he did, and he's convinced enough Americans that it was the right the thing to do, he's convinced enough Americans that he was in some way involved with 9/11. Even after there proved to be no WMDs, and no (or minimal) connection with Al Qaeda, he still said it was the right thing to do. I can think of one person who probably agrees with him, and his name is Osama Bin Laden, where ever he may be hiding. Why didn't we go after him? Saddam wasn't an imminent threat, at least not as much as Osama who had JUST ATTACKED us. This government does indeed need a tune up, and I don't care what you say about Kerry, but we have no where to go but up.

Finally, Bush supporters bitch about Kerry raising taxes. Well I've got news for you, this 400 billion dollar deficit needs to be paid off some how. Do you realize Bush is the first president to actually CUT taxes in time of war. This is beautiful, we have this justified war that we are not paying for, I love it. Well we are paying for it, we are paying for it with human lives, and I being a young man will have to pay off this deficit in the future.

Ord Lees
10-23-2004, 01:59 AM
"i fear that day, the day when kerry becomes the pres. you think its bad now, his health plan alone will bankrupt the country"

Bush is already bankrupting this country... PRAY that no one attempts to collect on the debt BUSH has racked up...

So many of these points people use to criticise Kerry are already TRUE about Bush, the record is right there - we know what he has done in the last four years. Kerry has outlined his plans (unlike Bush) and I say give it a chance, WE KNOW WHAT BUSH IS LIKE, I'LL TAKE THE RISK WITHOUT HIM...

And to all of you who think Kerry is not as tough as Bush, stop listening to the Bush campaign and DO SOME RESEARCH:

Kerry joined the military and ACTUALLY FOUGHT, Bush joined the reserve and skipped out on service, records no where to be found, strange... Kerry wrote a book about shadow organizations and terrorism on the rise in 1997, Clinton tried to hunt Osama Bin Laden after the Cole Battleship bombing but got NO SUPPORT from the tough Repubs... INSTEAD of continuing the hunt when he entered office, BUSH went golfing, and in March of 2001 his administration actually GAVE the Taliban (closely linked with Al Quaeda) $34 Million dollars... Money that was likely used against us... Bush ignored reports that Bin Laden was rumored to be planning an attack in the US using commercial jets... Ignored it... And while he stands there and says 'Not on my watch' and 'September 10th Mindset' I REMIND YOU IT WAS ON HIS WATCH, AND HE WAS THE MAN WHO COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING.

Kerry was talking about terrorism while Bush and his dad were hanging out with the Bin Laden Family (documented business ties), so ask yourself, who has a clearer head when dealing with true American matters like domestic security... The man who went to war for this country or the man who ignored warnings about impending attacks from a Bin Laden family member?

Look, it's too bad you got caught in this rant, but be honest with yourself when you criticise Kerry: you talk about him like you know what he's going to be like if he's president - YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW THAT - We know what Bush has been like and he has A MAD SLIM SHADY record while president and many years before...

So vote how you want, but at least KNOW THE FACTS about Bush and Kerry, not the NeoCon spin they tell you. Bush tells you to look at Kerry's record, but skims over his own... Bush flip-flops more than Kerry, but you don't know that because THE REPUBLICAN SPIN MACHINE is so organized...

These are not wild conspiracy theories, this is information I have culled from months of research and if there was some honest dirt on Kerry, I would talk about that too... If you don't believe some of the events I've mentioned occurred, several links to sources (links and facts from straight unbiased NEWS organizations like the BBC, etc.) are on my website

www.timesupmrbush.com

Do your homework, and if you still feel good about Bush, go for it.
But don't vote BUSH because you're afraid - Kerry's plans, if enacted, make you safer as an American than Bush's inaction on areas of domestic security. Don't forget, 9/11 was on Bush's watch...

DO YOUR RESEARCH,

Peace

(hopefully)

Yauch
10-23-2004, 02:47 AM
Beastie fans for Bush? Is that like Christians against Christ!?

that's funny.

Kid Presentable
10-23-2004, 02:53 AM
Bush is like David Brent...

brianavalentino
10-23-2004, 06:07 AM
who know who SHOULD be the pres. but you want the most liberal man alive to run the country. i fear that day, the day when kerry becomes the pres. you think its bad now, his health plan alone will bankrupt the country, intrest rates will rise, and you think kerry has this magic job wand that will create new jobs, with out outsorseing the price of everything will be too high. so just plan for the day, i want to decide what i do where i go, "from each according to their means, to each according to their need"
Wow you think Kerry is the most liberal man alive??? Oh dear. You know you may not want to watch Farenheit 911 you might spontaneously combust like the drummer from Spinal Tap. I just don't know if your fragile little mind can take it.

Real PaulRevere
10-23-2004, 07:28 AM
Beastie fans for Bush? Is that like Christians against Christ!?

If you like the beasties does it mean that you think exactly like them?
Don't you deserve to have your own opinion?

Kid Presentable
10-23-2004, 07:30 AM
If you like the beasties does it mean that you think exactly like them?
Don't you deserve to have your own opinion?
My opinion of Bush from the outside looking in is that he is a cretin...

Real PaulRevere
10-23-2004, 07:44 AM
My opinion of Bush from the outside looking in is that he is a cretin...


ok good for you. I'm not having any opinion in this issue(Bush or Kerry), but what i'm saying is that people can like or dislike Bush whether they are beastie fans or not there isn't any connection between the two- that's all!

Kid Presentable
10-23-2004, 07:51 AM
There needs to be more public protest, and the people to do it are musicians.

Real PaulRevere
10-23-2004, 07:54 AM
And the connection is...
Or there isn't one? :confused:

KmartShoplifter
10-23-2004, 08:24 AM
I'm not from America, but when George Bush's dad was president, didn't he make Saddam Huissen president or whatever and support or give money to the terrorists before? Oh yeah, and bomb Iraq frequently so that they would have to give them oil otherwise Iraq would be a rich nation right now and the UN also wanted to give them medical supplies but the people in power (of America like George Bush) at the time said that they would forward it to them but never did. And I'm talking about public official documents here, even though my recollection is kind of hazy right now. The terrorists were led by Osama Bin Laden, not Saddam Huissen anyway, and Osama Bin Laden and his followers or whatever are from Afghanistan not Iraq and there were clearly no weapons of mass destruction and they even checked that out a couple of years ago and said publically that there were not any. I think Afghanistan actually did but they were allies so it didn't matter or something...?What really irks me though is how he made everyone worried about the 'weapons of mass destruction' then blatantly made a joke about it when they 'discovered that there weren't any. But our Prime Minister in Australia really sucks as well. He sucks up to George Bush so that he can try and get a slice of that wealth. Musicians are doing public protests like the Rock Against Bush or the Rock Against Howard. Unfortunately, that didn't exactly work. :(

titou lapraline
10-23-2004, 12:45 PM
(!) Please, for the rest of the world... vote Kerry (!)
Bush est un putain d'gros boulet qui fait chier l'monde.

Real PaulRevere
10-23-2004, 01:18 PM
Musicians are doing public protests like the Rock Against Bush or the Rock Against Howard. Unfortunately, that didn't exactly work. :(

As far as I know, the only thing against Bush in that CD is its title... (correct me if i'm wrong), and that's not a protest, that is telling you waht to do, I think it's important for musicians, artist or any other person in this world to stand up for what they believe, but to my opinion this is almost like brainwashing, there isn't any explaination or anything in that cd (and again correct me if i'm wrong) that telling you what are the reasons not to vote for Bush, and all the lil' kids that just got to the age that they can vote will go and do that cuz it seems really KEWL to vote against him, I think that in this case they are just making money out of it... but hey that's just me

brianavalentino
10-23-2004, 01:55 PM
(!) Please, for the rest of the world... vote Kerry (!)
Bush est un putain d'gros boulet qui fait chier l'monde.
ok, my french is rusty, but did you call bush some kind of whore who wants to fuck the world? Well if even if that doesn't translate correctly I still agree with it!

Gabriely
10-23-2004, 02:28 PM
the more that he uses our troops to lash out vengefully without support from the rest of the world, the angrier the rest of the world becomes at the united statesword...brazilians used to love the americans(to much)...but now, every where you look, every newspaper you read, and even in the school all you listen to is that americans are dumbs, fulls, that love guns and wars and that it is the reason why bush will win on nov.,
I donn really agree with that shit, but if WB win....well, Iīll may change my idea.

reedks
10-23-2004, 02:44 PM
I agree with Miramanee's post in regards to celebrity endorsements not influencing votes...and I certainly hope nobody chooses who to vote for strictly based on what someone else tells them. The good thing about the Beasties voicing their opinions is that maybe it will get people to question what's going on within their own country and start demanding accountability in their elected officials. Whichever party you're for or against, at least people are starting to stand up for something instead of being complacent or indifferent and I find that incredibly hopeful.

That being said, any administration (regardless of party affiliation) that blatantly rejects Article 51 of the United Nations charter, is something to be terribly afraid and ashamed of.

Extra Cheese
10-23-2004, 03:24 PM
In response to some of the church and state comments in this thread, I have a little something I want to say.

i'm sorry, i missed something. how was what you wrote after that ^ in response to seperation of church and state?

brianavalentino
10-23-2004, 04:47 PM
Shit, this is definitely the only US election ever when I wished I had the vote. I'd really relish using it, too.
ME TOO!!! You would not believe what those ballot nazis in Texas did to me. I found out I was moving to the UK five months ago, and as soon as I knew for sure I called to get my ballot changed to an absentee ballot. This guy was all like, " you have to give us six months notice, not five". I was so pissed....I've tried everything but my hands are tied.... :mad:

brianavalentino
10-23-2004, 07:16 PM
[QUOTE=Miramanee]6 months? That doesn't sound correct to me. I think you were misinformed.

Ya know, why I am not surprised? I don't know how many of those dicks I talked to and they all told me there was no way. I even went down there and waited in line for four hours just to talk to someone in person. Of course, the guy I talked to was this hefty good ole boy with jeans that were about four sizes too small, and I was sporting a tshirt with a pic of G.Bush that said, "What Would Jesus Bomb?" so he may not have been too eager to help....my bad.....thanks though you're a big help!

jusme1072
10-23-2004, 07:20 PM
yeah, no votin agains dubya in texas, that's unamerican!

i used to live there, sounds about right.

quagmire
10-24-2004, 12:29 AM
Cause not everyone believes in God or your "religion" I dont force my non religious views on you so don't force your religious views on me.

1.Whats ironic is that that's exactly what your doing. (Im not saying that your over all point was bad though.)
2.The President has almmost no control over the economy, ever.
3.Where in the bible does it say gays can't marry?

titou lapraline
10-24-2004, 08:24 AM
ok, my french is rusty, but did you call bush some kind of whore who wants to fuck the world? Well if even if that doesn't translate correctly I still agree with it!

I think that your translation is good,
but i'm not a beast in english...

Sure shot
10-24-2004, 09:49 AM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. we are a soverin nation. to do as we please. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. and did we pass a "global test" to do that. no we did what we felt was right for the country. where do you want to fight the war, here or over there. its going to happen you just have to pick where. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!


Do you even know why pearl harbour got bombed?? Things like this don't happen for no reason. And further more, the United States had some intelligence and knew there would be an attack on their soil, and might have even known where but didn't do anything about.....sounds familiar? Bush knew something would happen concerning Sept 11th and didn't so anything about it. Trust me i don't justify any of these atacks, they never should have happened, humanity is such a failure and more wrs are just not the answer man. I dont care who wins im canadian

brianavalentino
10-24-2004, 11:07 AM
"we are a soverin nation. to do as we please."

Ya see cramlow, this is the exact attitude that is going to get all our asses in trouble. I have travelled all over europe these past couple years and have gotten some major attitude about Americans because they think we all think like you and George Bush. Get off your throne and try to help people.

By the way, I know it's a side issue, but I'm not sure how "sovereign" we can be if you can't at least spell it correctly.

Was Dan Quayle your 6th grade english teacher?

Extra Cheese
10-24-2004, 11:22 AM
3.Where in the bible does it say gays can't marry?


well when it says men sleeping with men is a sin and those that do it will ultimately die by the wrath of god i think you can assume that men marrying men isnt ok with the church.

bgirl_jess
10-24-2004, 11:25 AM
FUCK BUSH ... (not that Kery is any better)

BGirl
10-24-2004, 11:36 AM
please tell me where you find " seperation of church and state" in any law or bill. cause it isnt in the Constitution i know that much?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

(U.S. Constitution, First Amendment)

brianavalentino
10-24-2004, 12:32 PM
well when it says men sleeping with men is a sin and those that do it will ultimately die by the wrath of god i think you can assume that men marrying men isnt ok with the church.

Ok you can hush now, the Church is the ultimate mafia and everyone knows it, they are the lowest of the moral lows. If two people love each other how does that hurt someone else? please someone explain it to me because I thought all you Christians were all about peace and love, it seems more like you out to get everyone that isn't exactly like you.

Oh and props to Bgirl, it's scary how many people don't know anything about their own government... (y)

Extra Cheese
10-24-2004, 12:56 PM
Ok you can hush now, the Church is the ultimate mafia and everyone knows it, they are the lowest of the moral lows.


i dont ever recall saying that i was a christian or that i was against anyone getting married.

helloitsme
10-24-2004, 03:24 PM
GO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Rodie
10-24-2004, 04:22 PM
GO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

DAMN RIGHT!!!!

Go back to Texas!!!!!

Better yet, go back to Connecticut!!!!!

Ilovekingadrock
10-24-2004, 04:51 PM
well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!
Are you crazy?

loose_endz
10-24-2004, 05:05 PM
and you guys from canada, hows your national health care comming??? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
my trips to the doctor are free! and so is my medication....because of canada's health care plan...my mom got a kidney transplant for nothing!!! all gov't paid for...sure our taxes are higher than the US, but our taxes are still half the cost of health insurance plans.

brianavalentino
10-24-2004, 05:45 PM
i dont ever recall saying that i was a christian or that i was against anyone getting married.
well you sure fuckin sound like one

countrymikedj
10-24-2004, 11:34 PM
,
let's get out there in nov and send that ass back to texas.

i agree with everything except for sending him back to Texas. I have to live here, that would just not be cool

titou lapraline
10-25-2004, 03:35 AM
and what has said a bush's councillor about french girls???? :mad:
THAT' S NOT TRUE! ...fuck Bush, he is so stupid...

drobertson420
10-25-2004, 06:12 AM
"...If every nation did what it thought was right for itself we would be in the middle of WWIII

We already are.....

drobertson420
10-25-2004, 06:22 AM
']Well, I guess if your a fan for Beastie Boys and Bush, you would
slowly grow to dislike him, and slowly grow towards someone else.
If you have a weak mind ;)

drobertson420
10-25-2004, 06:26 AM
"....the Church is the ultimate mafia and everyone knows it"

The Catholic Church, that is...... ;)

Extra Cheese
10-25-2004, 08:17 AM
well you sure fuckin sound like one

you should read the thread from the beginning instead of reading one post towards the end and then thinking you know everything thats been said

BGirl
10-25-2004, 10:04 AM
i agree with everything except for sending him back to Texas. I have to live here, that would just not be cool

Haha! Sorry, he has to go somewhere...

If only we could exile him to Siberia.

Actually, prison is where he belongs.

brianavalentino
10-25-2004, 11:21 AM
[QUOTE=BGirl]Haha! Sorry, he has to go somewhere...

If only we could exile him to Siberia.

Actually, prison is where he belongs.[/QUOT
Yes but it must be a FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON! (office space) (y) :eek:

beastie_dee
10-25-2004, 03:33 PM
They have no choice but to vote Bush...Kerry is worse.

HA you're crazy!

I'd rather have Kerry than Bush anyday ..

Bush already fucked up enough .. lets see what Kerry'll do

DapperDiverge
10-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Yauch is one of the smartest guys out there. I still remember what he said back in the '98 MTV awards that the U.S should stop being so prejudice to the muslim people and that the terrorists were going to strike here if we didn't stop retaliating! God Yauch, no one listen to you!!! And how could Bush say he's doing this war in the name of God!! War is the LAST thing God would want for ALL his children! Sometimes I think Bush could be the anti-christ! He's a liar, and hopefully one day he'll get reincarnated into one of these third world countries he either fucked up or didn't bother to help because of his selfish ways. It sounds to me that he might have began the biblical revelations. (lb)

Kid Presentable
10-25-2004, 07:09 PM
"War on Terrorism" translates as "War on Muslims"

brianavalentino
10-25-2004, 07:09 PM
Yauch is one of the smartest guys out there. I still remember what he said back in the '98 MTV awards that the U.S should stop being so prejudice to the muslim people and that the terrorists were going to strike here if we didn't stop retaliating! God Yauch, no one listen to you!!! And how could Bush say he's doing this war in the name of God!! War is the LAST thing God would want for ALL his children! Sometimes I think Bush could be the anti-christ! He's a liar, and hopefully one day he'll get reincarnated into one of these third world countries he either fucked up or didn't bother to help because of his selfish ways. It sounds to me that he might have began the biblical revelations. (lb)

Some people think that's what he's been aiming for, and if you look at the facts today and the Crusades backin the middle ages, there are disgusting similarities.... :eek:

paty
10-25-2004, 08:13 PM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. we are a soverin nation. to do as we please. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. and did we pass a "global test" to do that. no we did what we felt was right for the country. where do you want to fight the war, here or over there. its going to happen you just have to pick where. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!
Honestly, iīm not an american, but if i was i would never vote on Bush. For me a president that could say for a millions of americans that Sadam was the guy that wanted to kill his father, just cleary shows that he went in Iraque for a many stupid reasons one of then was personal !! But for me that wasnīt enough to put the whole nation in danger!!Iīm sorry, but as a human been I respect your opinion but I just donīt agree!!!
BTW, sorry if had some gramatical english mistakes!!But i guess you undertand what I meant!!!

jusme1072
10-25-2004, 08:43 PM
Yauch is one of the smartest guys out there. I still remember what he said back in the '98 MTV awards that the U.S should stop being so prejudice to the muslim people and that the terrorists were going to strike here if we didn't stop retaliating! God Yauch, no one listen to you!!! And how could Bush say he's doing this war in the name of God!! War is the LAST thing God would want for ALL his children! Sometimes I think Bush could be the anti-christ! He's a liar, and hopefully one day he'll get reincarnated into one of these third world countries he either fucked up or didn't bother to help because of his selfish ways. It sounds to me that he might have began the biblical revelations. (lb)

that is so weird, because when the final determination came down that "they" were gonna give the presidency to bush i got this horrible sick feeling. i told everyone i knew that i just had a feeling that something horrible was going to happen with him as president. kay, so i'm not psychic cause who didn't cringe when they found out he was gonna take over (besides the person who started this thread). but lo and behold! i thought i was the only one who felt this way. it scares the hell out of me that he will get elected. i almost feel like "ok that's if for this country". :eek:

drobertson420
10-25-2004, 09:49 PM
Ya Know....If you can link to it, and it's "in quotes", it's probably true... :rolleyes:

jusme1072
10-25-2004, 09:58 PM
Ya Know....If you can link to it, and it's "in quotes", it's probably true... :rolleyes:


uh...what?

RussDJ
10-25-2004, 10:40 PM
Early Voter here and guess what. 1 for Bush!!

jusme1072
10-25-2004, 10:44 PM
Early Voter here and guess what. 1 for Bush!!

i'm sure bush will treasure it, just like he treasured all the votes he got last time... wait...what...he didn't get the most votes last time? oh, i'm up for a repeat of that action, only in bigger numbers!

RussDJ
10-25-2004, 10:51 PM
i'm sure bush will treasure it, just like he treasured all the votes he got last time... wait...what...he didn't get the most votes last time? oh, i'm up for a repeat of that action, only in bigger numbers!
Just got to see the concert in Atlanta it rocked. they showed a clip of Will Ferrell that was hillarious. whether you are for bush or kerry. did you get to see the show at red rocks?

jusme1072
10-25-2004, 10:58 PM
Just got to see the concert in Atlanta it rocked. they showed a clip of Will Ferrell that was hillarious. whether you are for bush or kerry. did you get to see the show at red rocks?

yeah, it was amazing. they were supposed to play red rocks for check your head, but they ended up moving us to the denver colisium (sp?) like 1 week before the show. of course they were still great, but it was amazing seeing them at red rocks. unfortunately i was supposed to be in row 31 but my friend got row 85, so since we couldn't get in my row i sat with her. and of course for sabatoge they came up in this roped off area between rows 25 and 30, right in front of were i was supposed to be!! AAAHHHGGG! and there were crazy drunk people who got into a fist fight right next to us. then some guy threw up right next to my foot. then some other guy stole my t-shirt i bought at the end of the show. yeah, my whole day was like that, i should have known before i even got there. anyway they were great, but they did a really long bit of the wil farrell thing at red rocks. we went to new orleans and saw them at voodoo and the video was much shorter. okay i'm done with my chapter book now.

RussDJ
10-25-2004, 11:04 PM
i must have seen the short version. I use to live in Thorton then Loveland/Ft. Collins area about 4 years ago my kids still live there.

jusme1072
10-25-2004, 11:09 PM
i must have seen the short version. I use to live in Thorton then Loveland/Ft. Collins area about 4 years ago my kids still live there.

i live on the west side of denver. i'm glad you voted, even if it isn't for who i want to win. and be glad you moved out of denver, not as much fun as it used to be. or maybe i'm just gettin old? see ya later

sea_dragon
10-26-2004, 01:03 AM
And who the hell even knows what John Kerry stands for anyway.

Maybe someone who's bothered to read one of his books:

Our Plan for America: Stronger At Home, Respected in the World (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586483145/qid=1098771332/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-9349530-5971959?v=glance&s=books)
(By the way, I love this reviewer's opening sentence: "I admit, I havent read this book, but I am pretty sure its all false." Dumbass!)

A Call to Service: My Vision for a Better America (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670032603/qid=1098771332/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-9349530-5971959?v=glance&s=books)

The New War: The Web of Crime That Threatens America's Security (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001FZGN0/qid=1098771332/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/104-9349530-5971959?v=glance&s=books)
(Gee, he wrote a book about international crime and terrorism in 1998!)

Sure, you can dismiss these as false promises, but how much of what GW said in 2000 has he actually followed through on? He's not a uniter, and he is a nation-builder. And he sure dropped that Social Security investment plan in a hurry when the market tanked - although he's going to try to resurrect that one, just in time to coincide with the bulk of the baby boomers' retirement. Hope you're all prepared to support your parents in their old age, because Social Security won't be there for them if it's converted into a pseudo-401(k) for younger workers.

Van_Gig
10-26-2004, 02:05 AM
hey i know that i am one of few. but i love the beastie boys and i love george bush. and kerry is not the man to lead this country. we are a soverin nation. to do as we please. the only reason we got in to WWII is because japan bombed us. and did we pass a "global test" to do that. no we did what we felt was right for the country. where do you want to fight the war, here or over there. its going to happen you just have to pick where. well any ways all i have to say is GO BUSH!!!!


bush did not go to iraq because he didnīt want to have war in his land , he went there to get that fucking oil . i dunno if kerry would be a good president but for sure a better one than bush . word. look what bush did , he messed up our world . terror is taking overhand, ( but i must confess that this fact is not only bushs fault , terror was already born way earlier ) islamists are bombing everything and today is more racism than in WWII .
bush needs professional help . heīs an addict . addicted to power and money . he is as mad as his dad . but i really think that world must care about bush and must get rid of him , cause he is a real danger for the whole world , he has got the money( = power ) ! every fucking act he is doing is not only damaging america , every fucking act has got an effect on the whole world ! he knows that but he donīt gives a fuck .

Van_Gig
10-26-2004, 02:06 AM
bush did not go to iraq because he didnīt want to have war in his land , he went there to get that fucking oil . i dunno if kerry would be a good president but for sure a better one than bush . word. look what bush did , he messed up our world . terror is taking overhand, ( but i must confess that this fact is not only bushs fault , terror was already born way earlier ) islamists are bombing everything and today is more racism than in WWII .
bush needs professional help . heīs an addict . addicted to power and money . he is as mad as his dad . but i really think that world must care about bush and must get rid of him , cause he is a real danger for the whole world , he has got the money( = power ) ! every fucking act he is doing is not only damaging america , every fucking act has got an effect on the whole world ! he knows that but he donīt gives a fuck . but every one has got his own opinion .

seurat
10-26-2004, 05:37 AM
I never heard so many ignorant claims in my life. Too many can't decipher propaganda from fact. Though Bush has his faults, his positions are quite clear; you either accept what he stands for or you don't. Kerry on the other hand, caters to whatever will get him elected. Your war for oil, war against Muslims, the draft, corporate America, etc etc... is simple demagoguery. It galvanizes fear and negativity, but nothing else. I could debate anyone on this site, or better yet one of the Beastie Boys, and show what a fraud Kerry and his policies are. This wouldn't be a challenge, even if they had Kerry helping them. I'd bet my life on it; they can bet a substantial amount to charity. Since debating brainwashed people on here is pointless, because most have zero analytical skills or factual information, I'll enjoy what the nation will only reconfirm next Tuesday. But if one of the Beasties has balls, they can easily contact me. I mean come on, look at the worst case scenario...fans get to lick more boots and some charity gets paid. Keep it real patriots. The Beasties Boys rock, but their politics...well... :rolleyes:

MarkedCube
10-26-2004, 06:50 AM
every fucking act he is doing is not only damaging america , every fucking act has got an effect on the whole world ! he knows that but he donīt gives a fuck .

yeah, Bush does whatever he wants. He keeps on using 911 of how hes going to protect America from terrorism but doesn't have his attention on it. On 911 Bush blocked funds to monitor all the doctors, nurses, firefighters, police officers and other's health after the tragedy. These courageous people went to help whoever was trapped in the rubble and Bush wouldn't help them. Bush says he helps the middle class and then cuts overtime and he made tons of mistakes and wouldn't admit any of them. He doesn't have any plans to change America, hes just going to do the same shit for another 4 years. If you're a working man or woman and vote for Bush then you're like a cow voting for McDonalds.

Bradleystp
10-26-2004, 07:21 AM
I never heard so many ignorant claims in my life. Too many can't decipher propaganda from fact. Though Bush has his faults, his positions are quite clear; you either accept what he stands for or you don't. Kerry on the other hand, caters to whatever will get him elected. Your war for oil, war against Muslims, the draft, corporate America, etc etc... is simple demagoguery. It galvanizes fear and negativity, but nothing else. I could debate anyone on this site, or better yet one of the Beastie Boys, and show what a fraud Kerry and his policies are. This wouldn't be a challenge, even if they had Kerry helping them. I'd bet my life on it; they can bet a substantial amount to charity. Since debating brainwashed people on here is pointless, because most have zero analytical skills or factual information, I'll enjoy what the nation will only reconfirm next Tuesday. But if one of the Beasties has balls, they can easily contact me. I mean come on, look at the worst case scenario...fans get to lick more boots and some charity gets paid. Keep it real patriots. The Beasties Boys rock, but their politics...well... :rolleyes:


You could out-debate Kerry and the Beastie Boys?!? Doubt it. Really, really doubt it. You are pretty full of yourself.

Bush has been a failure. There is little to prove otherwise. Bush has made more mistakes than I can count. All you have to do is read any newspaper or watch ANY news channel to see that. All you have to do is walk around on the streets or live in America right now to see how his policies have made average American Living hard, and rich American living much easier. All you have to do is see any intelligence reports that have come out about the war, global terrorism, the economy, and 9/11 to see that almost everything Bush has doen in the past 4 years is based on bad information, stretches of truth, and outright false accusations.

Bush had the world in his hands after 9/11, and he threw it away. He alienated everyone in the world, including his own citizens. He thinks Americans are stupid and don't pick up on his nonsense. Time to give someone else a try. If Kerry sucks, we can vote him out too. I don't think that Kerry is the answer to our prayers or anything, but it is a step in the right direction.

There is so much evidence against Bush it is unbelievable that people still like the man. He has made so many bad choices, and done more to divide and hurt this country than any other president I have ever heard.

Kerry may not be the best, but it can't get much worse than Bush.

P.S. - I would love to see this "debate", since you know more than everyone about, well, everything.

Van_Gig
10-26-2004, 08:12 AM
yeah, Bush does whatever he wants. He keeps on using 911 of how hes going to protect America from terrorism but doesn't have his attention on it. On 911 Bush blocked funds to monitor all the doctors, nurses, firefighters, police officers and other's health after the tragedy. These courageous people went to help whoever was trapped in the rubble and Bush wouldn't help them. Bush says he helps the middle class and then cuts overtime and he made tons of mistakes and wouldn't admit any of them. He doesn't have any plans to change America, hes just going to do the same shit for another 4 years. If you're a working man or woman and vote for Bush then you're like a cow voting for McDonalds.


yeah youīre right . bush is using his status as the president of the united states of america for accomplishing his own intentions . it seems like he donīt gives a fuck about the people who died in iraq and afghanistan , his intention was and still is only to get that fucking oil , he wants to show the world that he is the man . if he is killing humans with his acts , he donīt gives a damn on it . he knew that saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 , that was a fucking plea , he wanted to justify iraq war with this shit and also with WOMD . i think if bush gets reelected , he will probably attack other nations .i think he is already plannin about attacking iran and south korea , the last two nations on the " line of terror" . if that is going to happen , then i am really curious about how he wants to justify that . i think the next president , who ever it will be , should first clean up the situation in iraq and also afghanistan .

Gabriely
10-26-2004, 09:09 AM
i agree with everything except for sending him back to Texas. I have to live here, that would just not be coolhahaha...it was funny

brianavalentino
10-26-2004, 10:06 AM
http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com/pages/1/index.htm

this is a real website-check it out (y)

Daisy
10-26-2004, 10:20 AM
http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com/pages/1/index.htm

this is a real website-check it out (y)

Great website.

Yauch, I think you have a following if you want to run for public office. ;)

sea_dragon
10-26-2004, 03:29 PM
http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com/pages/1/index.htm

this is a real website-check it out (y)

Well for that matter, Bush and Kerry are distantly related.

"Their common ancestor was a member of the minor Essex gentry called Edmund Reade who was born and died in Wickford without ever seeing the New World his offspring would fight over 400 years later."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1309000,00.html

Space
10-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Beastie fans for Bush? Is that like Christians against Christ!?

more like jews indisbelief.

ASsman
10-26-2004, 06:01 PM
WTF.....

Space
10-27-2004, 05:39 PM
you would really have to be half a moron to vote for bush.

let's get out there in nov and send that ass back to texas.

yesterday when i read this, i jumped into the old 66 and went and voted!

ASsman
10-27-2004, 05:44 PM
I have something for Bush supporters.

http://www.theonion.com/images/408/article2999.jpg

cramlow
12-22-2004, 09:57 PM
well i guess the better man won!!! :D

Rosie Cotton
12-22-2004, 10:36 PM
Wow, check out Speedy Gonzales. Coming in to gloat a mere 50 days after the fact.

ASsman
12-23-2004, 10:47 AM
This thread will officialy change to

"Beastie fans for a Constitutional amendment :For Arnold "

You bunch of girlie men.

Rosie Cotton
12-24-2004, 02:28 AM
This thread will officialy change to

"Beastie fans for a Constitutional amendment :For Arnold "

You bunch of girlie men.
I don't know, he said the GOP needs to move to the left to get more votes. Arnie just might have squandered his chances at that amendment.

nyhelo81
11-22-2005, 07:39 AM
Yes! I know this post has been posted for a hot minute now, however I have neglected Beastie Boys Forum for the past few weeks. But yes, finally a non Anti-Bush thread. I too love the Beastie Boys and George Bush. I also love New York. Those of you who hate George Bush for what you here on the television or in the news go ahead and keep being ignorant. he does not just decide to do something and then go do it. Oh yes whoever it was that said everyone is entitled to their opinion is right. Well my opinion is that you sir, are a DOUCHE BAG. A huge DOUCHE BAG. And if your only comeback to this is "learn how to spell" or "ha you can't even spell" then bite it. And CRAMLOW...... keep on keepin on! GO BEASTIES!!!!!!

ms.peachy
11-22-2005, 07:54 AM
Well, thank you for that intelligent and insightful contribution. We are so lucky you've decided to resurrect this thread and join us. What have we done to deserve such good fortune? This is the best thing that will happen to us all day. Possibly all month. Maybe even all year.

yeahwho
11-22-2005, 07:55 AM
Yes! I know this post has been posted for a hot minute now, however I have neglected Beastie Boys Forum for the past few weeks. But yes, finally a non Anti-Bush thread. I too love the Beastie Boys and George Bush. I also love New York. Those of you who hate George Bush for what you here on the television or in the news go ahead and keep being ignorant. he does not just decide to do something and then go do it. Oh yes whoever it was that said everyone is entitled to their opinion is right. Well my opinion is that you sir, are a DOUCHE BAG. A huge DOUCHE BAG. And if your only comeback to this is "learn how to spell" or "ha you can't even spell" then bite it. And CRAMLOW...... keep on keepin on! GO BEASTIES!!!!!!

Good find nyhelo81! "beastie fans for george bush" thread is BACK biatches!

Ali
11-22-2005, 08:44 AM
Fuck yeah.

synch
11-22-2005, 09:33 AM
I heard George Bush is a big Beastie Boys fan.

His favourite album is LTI.

He didn't like Paul's Boutique very much though.

Ace42X
11-22-2005, 01:10 PM
Those of you who hate George Bush for what you here on the television or in the news go ahead and keep being ignorant.

What sort of Orwellian logic is this? "Those of you who watch the news are ignorant."

What should we base our opinions on then? Unqualified patriotism? Insipid optimism? Or just intensive self-deception?

What a moron.

valvano
11-22-2005, 02:09 PM
bush was the lessor of 2 evils................and yet has still been a failure

Echewta
11-22-2005, 05:54 PM
The last couple of years has been pretty disappointing from both parties in the White House and Congress. Pretty greedy.
Common sense seems to have gone out the window.

fucktopgirl
11-22-2005, 06:26 PM
bush was the lessor of 2 evils................and yet has still been a failure

its not because bush listen to beasties boys that he is the less evil


he is the incarnation of satan,for christ sake :D

ASsman
11-23-2005, 12:24 AM
bush was the lessor of 2 evils................and yet has still been a failure
Yah, that's a great reason to vote. I think it was stupider to vote than not to vote this past election.

sam i am
11-23-2005, 11:39 AM
Well, thank you for that intelligent and insightful contribution. We are so lucky you've decided to resurrect this thread and join us. What have we done to deserve such good fortune? This is the best thing that will happen to us all day. Possibly all month. Maybe even all year.

LMAO (y)

sam i am
11-23-2005, 11:40 AM
What sort of Orwellian logic is this? "Those of you who watch the news are ignorant."

What should we base our opinions on then? Unqualified patriotism? Insipid optimism? Or just intensive self-deception?

What a moron.

No, King Ace....

We'll base it on our nihilistic lunacy and socialist utopian pipe dreams....just like you! :p

QueenAdrock
11-23-2005, 05:08 PM
Hey, Bush lovers, PSSST....35%.

We both know what it means. :D

The only ones supporting him now are a part of a dying breed. Good for you in finally believing in minorities.

sam i am
11-23-2005, 08:25 PM
Hey, Bush lovers, PSSST....35%.

We both know what it means. :D

The only ones supporting him now are a part of a dying breed. Good for you in finally believing in minorities.


I've always been a believer in minorities : I'm a lone conservative on a rabidly anti-conservative message board, ain't I?

Watch that 35% figure rocket up when the US announces troop withdrawals from Iraq :rolleyes:

QueenAdrock
11-23-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm not anti-conservative. I'm anti-Radical Republicanism.

Con.ser.va.tive:
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.

I don't know what's moderate or how they oppose change by installing all these new crazy-ass reforms like the Patriot Act, or invading countries. Actual conservatives who believe in being moderate are rare in today's Republican party.

If there were more Republicans out there who weren't so in-your-face about religion, war, and abortion, then I'd be more willing to not think majority of them are nutjobs.


Watch that 35% figure rocket up when the US announces troop withdrawals from Iraq :rolleyes:

Well, of course! We'll have a Democrat in office by then. ;)

valvano
11-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Hey, Bush lovers, PSSST....35%.

We both know what it means. :D

The only ones supporting him now are a part of a dying breed. Good for you in finally believing in minorities.

maybe bush isnt driven by poll numbers but rather by what he thinks is right vs wrong, unlike some former president from arkansas?

:rolleyes:

Schmeltz
11-24-2005, 01:17 AM
Yeah, that's how democracy ought to work: the head of state's personal opinion about right and wrong should take precedence over the wishes of the population.

What brick-headed idiocy.

fucktopgirl
11-24-2005, 01:47 AM
bush suck ass,he is a fucking asshole that dont even know what 2+2 equal!
Bush is a fachisme,he is a dick and we should burn him!

synch
11-24-2005, 04:20 AM
maybe bush isnt driven by poll numbers but rather by what he thinks is right vs wrong, unlike some former president from arkansas?

:rolleyes:
That's right, he disregards the opinion of the rest of the planet but does whatever the fuck he pleases. He's not bound to please anyone but his fat little friends.

That was what you were saying right?

Ali
11-24-2005, 07:19 AM
maybe bush isnt driven by poll numbers but rather by what he thinks is right vs wrong, unlike some former president from arkansas?

:rolleyes:"thinks"? Bush thinks?

I don't think so.

Bush reads the TelePrompt, or repeats whatever comes through that little earpiece of his.

synch
11-24-2005, 07:46 AM
The Cowboys - Jets game.

Ali
11-24-2005, 07:49 AM
The Cowboys - Jets game.That's the other earpiece, fool.

synch
11-24-2005, 08:04 AM
Mavericks - Bulls?

Ali
11-24-2005, 08:21 AM
Mavericks - Bulls?Have you seen the clip where GW is giving a speech and the wires get crossed, so that what's being said into his ear accidentally comes out of the speakers?

Classic!

synch
11-24-2005, 08:36 AM
Ooooh, no I did not. Linkage?

Ali
11-24-2005, 09:02 AM
Ooooh, no I did not. Linkage?it's on zfilter or abum, but I can't browse them from here... sorry.

Hallo!
11-27-2005, 06:42 AM
I think to take this Discussion. Now I am thinking it is no Problem, just (You) take individual Focus to Life and collect the Positive Issues and Inspiration. (..)

I am from Germany, our Chancellor is now designed by a Woman. Mrs. Merkel, she is from The Christian-Democratic Party. We now have a Major Coaltition between the now shortly leading Christian-Democrats and Social-Democrats.

Our Exchancellor (Social-Democrat), Mr. SchrÃķder, has set a vote to the German Bundestag if he still should lead. He lost that Vote and new official Votings were set in October 2005. The Chrisitan Democrat won with their female Leader Mrs. Merkel.
The new thing was, that the Exchancellor set that `Conspiracy`-Vote, because he thought he would have been rejected by the Majority, which happened.
This way of making Politics is a no-way. :p
The new thing was he had asingned an electional Procedure for the Election of a President of an Country. He is Pro-Presidental Leadership, like the USA, France have. That is a unusual Way to introduce the German Population to the thought of being lead by an President. I do not know, if the Population recovered that Issue, which he wanted to introduce.

to go back to the Top, like what I am thinking.

I think the whole Enviorment is `crazy` set, because of all the Politics, Persons and Media `Over-Flow`! Information (Edutainment) is the Key and as well
the thing which rip you to the bones, `cause your are confronted with it very :eek: everywhere.
As a result people get lost to some of their Customs, History, Time and become more deranged by upfilled with everyday new Unimportance or just garbage..

:confused:

..and it (the Info..!) is to arouse Curiosity ( (!) ), which has been grounded customly in the Population Manner!
I think another No way. But judge...
and be smart to tell... (lb)


by hello!