Wait! New York?

[ASsman]

Been waiting for someone to bring this up. But why did NY, vote overwhelminly Kerry?
I guess the Bush states know whats best for NY.

[Jasonik]

read this article
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/nyregion/04york.html

[frisky girl]

Been waiting for someone to bring this up. But why did NY, vote overwhelminly Kerry?
I guess the Bush states know whats best for NY.


Did you catch Jon Stewart last night? He commented on the absurdity of this as well.

[ASsman]

"This kind of redneck, shoot-from-the-hip mentality and a very concrete interpretation of religion is prevalent in Bush country - in the heartland."

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said.

"To paraphrase our current president, I'm in shock and awe," said Keithe Sales

"Even though Bush isn't one of them - he's a son of privilege - he comes off as just a good old boy," Mr. Murphy said.

Then a friend buying coffee along with her said she had just heard a report on television that Mr. Kerry had conceded and tears welled in Ms. Camhe's eyes.

"What's different about New York City is it tends to bring people together and so we can't ignore each others' dreams and values and it creates a much more inclusive consciousness," she said. "When you're in a more isolated environment, you're more susceptible to some ideology that's imposed on you."
Eat that Giuliani.
Ouch. Mix of emotions there. But all seem to be saying the same thing,
Hell, atleast we have are region of people to blame incase shit hits the fan in Ny,NY. And it won't be its residents.

How ignorant are people? Apparently very.
Thanks for the article Jasonik.

And yes I did Frisky, I would have The Daily Show on speed dial.. If it were a number...

[frisky girl]

Same here. The Daily Show's just about the only thing keeping me sane these days...

[Jasonik]

I respectfully question the much touted view that a Bush Presidency puts the United States in greater danger. All of the woe is based on this assumption. It HAS been 3 years w/out an attack.

It's just as curious why New Yorkers voted against the Vice Presidents warning that an attack is more likely if Kerry is elected. :confused:

[Fladgy Glitz]

The truth seems to be that the Middle-Americans don't really care about what happens to us in NYC. As long as nothing bad goes down in Witchita. To them New York is nothing but "criminals, fags, niggers, Jews, and bleading-heart liberals". Believe me they're happy that Manhattan is an island.

[Jasonik]

The truth seems to be that the Middle-Americans don't really care about what happens to us in NYC. As long as nothing bad goes down in Witchita. To them New York is nothing but "criminals, fags, niggers, Jews, and bleading-heart liberals". Believe me they're happy that Manhattan is an island.
No, I think that their view is that they are protecting NY from an attack by being tough on terror w/ Goerge Bush. They are trying to protect you and you don't see it. Everyone grieved for New York after 9/11. Some thanks you give them.

[ASsman]

Yet NY, knew not what was bet for them. That is why the rest of the country thought it best to save them from themselves. Silly gay New Yorkers.

[Jasonik]

If New York had a proper mayor who could have endorsed a candidate, it may have been a different story. Bloomberg is a Rino and wouldn't be caught dead in a campaign photo with Bush. And NY decided to ignore Gulianni's endorsement.

[ASsman]

And NY decided to ignore Gulianni's endorsement.
For some reason I get the feeling you think this was a bad thing...

[Jasonik]

Only if New York doesn't get attacked again.

[ASsman]

Yah, Im still waiting on that. Might be a while, shit needs to be planned out carefully. Also I do believe Bin Laden made some promises about this topic. Can't remember.

[yeahwho]

The NYTimes article was excellent. Seattle is a city that reads and buys more books per capita than any city in the USA. We were overwhelmingly in favor of Kerry. Freedom and honesty mean something here. Taking responsibility mean something here. Hard work is what Seattle is rooted in, I've done a stint on a fishing boat for a share, I own a chainsaw and my family is all blue collar. I also have books lining every wall of my house plus I visit the library every week. Informed and registered is why NY went with Kerry.

I think that the majority of Americans went with Bush because of a gut level appeal he portrays. I don't believe it is real. Nor did the NY voters. I did not vote against anybody, Kerry is more qualified than Bush to run this country.

We're not skeptical, a man who makes no mistakes is a man who lies.

The old saying, "In my heart I know your right, but my perfectly functioning brain say's your a horse's ass" is how I respond to the ditto heads.

I know that Rudy is a good man, but that statement he made recently about the missing 380 tons of Iraqi explosives being the soldiers fault? Is he trying to get a cabinet job? WTF is that all about.

[stillill]

I know that Rudy is a good man, but that statement he made recently about the missing 380 tons of Iraqi explosives being the soldiers fault? Is he trying to get a cabinet job? WTF is that all about.
Just because someone is a good person does not mean that he is not a completre asshole with distorted views on what the world should be like.

I am completely terrified of him running for president in 2008 because he will win. His leadership after 9/11 was admirable, and that is the only awareness most outside of New York have of him. This does not negate his years of undermining so much of what gave the city its character.

I think the the Northeast and the West Coast should unite to form and independent nation. Fuck those red flyover states.

[yeahwho]

I am completely terrified of him running for president in 2008 because he will win. His leadership after 9/11 was admirable, and that is the only awareness most outside of New York have of him. This does not negate his years of undermining so much of what gave the city its character.

(y) Very well said, the theatre district is now for tourists, Disney has infected Times Square, I agree with you 100%. I think that 380 ton statement is going to just be the tip of the iceberg for his political ambitions to be squashed....but Bush likes that talk and he appoints.

[paulk]

Been waiting for someone to bring this up. But why did NY, vote overwhelminly Kerry?
I guess the Bush states know whats best for NY.

This is a good argument for states' rights. Jeffersonian agrarian society. And etc.

[Bob]

I respectfully question the much touted view that a Bush Presidency puts the United States in greater danger. All of the woe is based on this assumption. It HAS been 3 years w/out an attack.

It's just as curious why New Yorkers voted against the Vice Presidents warning that an attack is more likely if Kerry is elected. :confused:

guess they didn't believe him. imagine that

[Justin]

I'm sure Rudy would win in 2008 because more people know of him, unless the democrats decide to push someone early and get there name out there!

Nowadays people look more for Charisma, someone they can relate to (those that have strong will power), and simply a reputation/"the look"

Thats why I think Jesse Ventura would be a good candidate

Although he may be more independant but hey its to early to talk about 2008

Lets face it, (i know this is stupid) but lets say Eminem ran this year as an independant, he may have not won, but i GUERANTEEE you that he would have brought out more younger voters than either kerry or bush did. So i guess the way to win an election is to appeal to the less educated and not towards the everyday cnn watcher.

Sounds like the same thing a cable network would do to get more ratings. No not by putting on the same type of sitcoms we are used to, but replacing those with so many "survivor" type shows that makes me sick just thinking about it.

Lets face it society has changed, so maybe politicians need to start bringing half naked strippers to their debates, do interviews in dirty magizines, appear at more sporting events, and you must come up with a catchy slogan!

I know this is like a AL BUNDY way of thinking, but so be it

[paulk]

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said.

But don't urban areas usually vote democrat?

[paulk]

"Retirement is when woman marries, and when man dies."
-Al Bundy

[infidel]

Maybe New Yorkers fell for the whack-job bush supporter theory that Osama said he would only attack red states. :rolleyes: