Assman you're too much

[bdavid]

How do you like Assman. The forward thinking stalwart of intelligence, debate and political discussion, posting about putting people on his ignore list.

I do now want any divergent views- I am Assman. The world should think exactly as I do....signed Assman.

I realize that this would be ignored by you- if what you say is true. But how lame is burying you head in the sand.

What a dick.

[endofmystump]

The Man of Ass is a person of great intellect and insight w/ a very open mind. How could you have such an anti-Man of Ass post. You must be a right-wing, nazi-loving, baby eating, capitalist swine. There is of course no other explanation.

[Ace42]

Heh, I find your comments ironic, considering you are using the *POLITICAL* forum to create a thread just to slander him.

And bDavid, once again you use a flawed line of reasoning to try and make a shit childish point. Your views are only "divergent" in the sense that they are totally out of touch with reality. I can't blame him or anyone for ignoring facile morons like you.

Listening to some incompetent boob trying to argue that the Sun revolves around the Earth based solely on the weight of his opinion and logical fallacies does not make you "open minded" - merely naively courteous.

[ASsman]

Out of 4 posts, I can only read 2. Hahahaha!! Wohooo!

Oh, yah freedom of "preference". I would prefer if you all fucked yourselfs! hahah.

Also, I found a parallel between dealing with you idiots, and dealing with children. Maybe ignoring you is the only way to really train you. Or beating you to a pulp. DRAGON KICK!

[endofmystump]

Wow. I hope you don't have kids. Was that how you were treated as a child? That would explain a lot.
By the way, you didn't prove our point at all with that thoughtful response.

[ASsman]

RAWR! SATIRE!! RAWR! Also, fuck you. And enjoy your stay on my ignore list. Reasoning hasn't work, nor will it ever. WOOHOO!OO!O!

[endofmystump]

Do you promise I can stay on your ignore list? You remind me of somebody's little brother.
I bet you are a good guy, but just a huge pain in the ass. I bet you either talked so much trash growing up that you learned to enjoy getting beat up, or you were completely protected and no one ever kicked your ass. Either way I know your entire life you have talked infinite amounts of shit.
You definitely amuse me.

[ASsman]

Just so you know you attempts to reply, are in vain.

This message is hidden because endofmystump is on your ignore list.

[happy.ness]

I do now want any divergent views- I am Assman. The world should think exactly as I do....signed Assman.


Do you by any chance suffer of a schizophrenic syndrom or what?
Bdavid registred 06/16
Assman registred 07/16
...???

anyway, I'm out of here
this is not exactly a political discussion, right? ;)

[bdavid]

Heh, I find your comments ironic, considering you are using the *POLITICAL* forum to create a thread just to slander him.

And bDavid, once again you use a flawed line of reasoning to try and make a shit childish point. Your views are only "divergent" in the sense that they are totally out of touch with reality. I can't blame him or anyone for ignoring facile morons like you.

Listening to some incompetent boob trying to argue that the Sun revolves around the Earth based solely on the weight of his opinion and logical fallacies does not make you "open minded" - merely naively courteous.


Slander?

[bdavid]

Heh, I find your comments ironic, considering you are using the *POLITICAL* forum to create a thread just to slander him.

And bDavid, once again you use a flawed line of reasoning to try and make a shit childish point. Your views are only "divergent" in the sense that they are totally out of touch with reality. I can't blame him or anyone for ignoring facile morons like you.

Listening to some incompetent boob trying to argue that the Sun revolves around the Earth based solely on the weight of his opinion and logical fallacies does not make you "open minded" - merely naively courteous.


Typical of close minded people like yourself. If you don't like it shut it out.

Again- slander? Hello? Ace? Ace! Ace! Hello!

I'm going to just guess something- Ace has never been laid.

[Ace42]

Technically it is libel (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=libel)

And again you are using logic errors.

He does like it
He shut it out
Ergo he shut it out because he didn't like it.

That is not a valid syllogism. It would be like saying:

He hit the pizza delivery boy
He doesn't like pizza
Ergo he hit the pizza delivery boy because he does not like pizza.

Can you not see why that is a logical fallacy?

Of course you can't, because otherwise you'd not've wasted my time and yours AGAIN by posting puerile drivel.

Get this clear in your head, moron, it is NOT close-minded to call "Bullshit" on baseless crap.

Just like it is not libel for me to call a spastic (you) a spastic.

[bdavid]

Technically it is libel (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=libel)

And again you are using logic errors.

He does like it
He shut it out
Ergo he shut it out because he didn't like it.

That is not a valid syllogism. It would be like saying:

He hit the pizza delivery boy
He doesn't like pizza
Ergo he hit the pizza delivery boy because he does not like pizza.

Can you not see why that is a logical fallacy?

Of course you can't, because otherwise you'd not've wasted my time and yours AGAIN by posting puerile drivel.

Get this clear in your head, moron, it is NOT close-minded to call "Bullshit" on baseless crap.

Just like it is not libel for me to call a spastic (you) a spastic.


Its not libel either champ.
And secondly, you either mistyped your analogy or you're dumb. I can make assumptions as to why he used the ignore and I you know as well as I that its because he's sticking his head in the sand. Are you so one sided that you will defend anything from your point of view regardless?

Again- not libel either.

[Ace42]

Its not libel either champ.

It is, and if you weren't so ignorant, you'd see. Here's a tip, just agree with me, even though you don't know why, and you'll be right and seem like less of a prick.

[bdavid]

It is, and if you weren't so ignorant, you'd see. Here's a tip, just agree with me, even though you don't know why, and you'll be right and seem like less of a prick.


Oh, Ace- maybe in whatever shithole you live in that could constitute libel. But here in the good ole USA most people that don't have their head up their asses realize you have to prove damage to ever win a libel case and its very, very difficult. I don't see how in any stretch of your narrow imagination you could percieve that I damaged someone with the name of "assman's" reputation or caused him monetary damage......unless maybe you decided not to pay him for that hummer- but nevermind, prostitution is illegal anyhow. Wouldn't hold up.

Sowwy wittle Ace.

Ace haiku

Ace crybaby bitch
likes to pretend he's the man
cries when he's wrong

[Ace42]

Oh, Ace- maybe in whatever shithole you live in that could constitute libel. But here in the good ole USA most people that don't have their head up their asses realize you have to prove damage to ever win a libel case

Except this is not a court-room, you shit-for-brains self-righteous piss-drinker. I was using the word in the purely literal sense of the word (hence the link to dictionary dot com, pasting of the contents below)

I don't see how in any stretch of your narrow imagination you could percieve that I damaged someone with the name of "assman's" reputation

Calling someone a "dick" will damage their reputation. The username they go under is immaterial. It is not hard to understand.

See, this is why you should be on ignore. Too dumb to even know when you are wrong.

"Libel" is:

A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.

What you posted was "false" and damaging to his reputation. Therefore it is libel.

As this is not a court case, "proof" does not come into it.

I said that was "libel" not "you are guilty of the crime under US law of libel"

Those are two very different things, and if you had even a cursory grasp of the English language (or even if you only thought to follow the link to the dictionary) YOU COULD'VE SAVED YOURSELF THE TROUBLE OF LOOKING LIKE A COCK-SUCKER.

You are just that fucking dumb. Don't even know that you don't know what you are talking about.

[bdavid]

Man you need to stop. There is no way, in any shape, manner or form in which that is libel. There is no way in which I damaged his reputation. Give it up when you're wrong.

Just face it Ace- you slipped.

Now you're my bitch.

Go get your shine box.

[frisky girl]

I heart Assman.

[Ace42]

Man you need to stop. There is no way, in any shape, manner or form in which that is libel. There is no way in which I damaged his reputation. Give it up when you're wrong.

"No way shape or form" other than THE FUCKING LITERAL DEFINITION IN THE DICTIONARY.

You're wrong, and you are too ignorant to realise it. And this is why you get ignored. You're still sitting there going "White is black! Look at it. It can't be anything but!" and wasting my fucking time.

I know you can't see it, but maybe, if you read the entry on dictionary.com really hard, again and again, maybe the words will burn into your synapses and you will FINALLY understand what it is saying.

That or you'll ahve an anyeurism and do us all a favour.

[ASsman]

I'm So Ronery
I'm so ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A little ronery
Poor rittre me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feer rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I work rearry hard and I'm physicarry fit
But nobody here seems to rearize that
When I rure the world maybe they'rr notice me
But untir then I'rr just be ronery
Rittre ronery, poor rittre me
I'm so ronery
I'm so ronery

[bdavid]

Calling someone a 'dick' does not damage somone' reputation. I realize in your sphere of thinking, anyone with a different view would be sued or charged with slander or libel but that's not the way it works.

If calling someone a 'dick' is libel, then what the hell kind of society are you promoting/

besides if tht's all it takes, you've committed about 75 acts of libel.

You're embarrassing yourself.

Seriously. Explain how I damaged his reputation. And to your point that you were using libel in a literal sense and not a legal sense- Its a legal term, there's no other way to use it. Unless you live in a piece of shit country, like you probably do.

[frisky girl]

Don't you listen to a word they say, baby. They're all just jealous.

[bdavid]

I'm So Ronery
I'm so ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A little ronery
Poor rittre me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feer rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I work rearry hard and I'm physicarry fit
But nobody here seems to rearize that
When I rure the world maybe they'rr notice me
But untir then I'rr just be ronery
Rittre ronery, poor rittre me
I'm so ronery
I'm so ronery

Assman's Ballad

My name is assman, I don't like when people disagree.
I'll put you all on ignore until you all can see
that the world should share the same opinion
what a wonderful place it will be
what a wonderful world we'll live in
when everyone thinks like me.


hey assman, since you're here. Sue me for libel. Ace says you can. Go get an attorney, tell him the facts of the case and sue.

[ASsman]

hey assman, since you're here. Sue me for libel. Ace says you can. Go get an attorney, tell him the facts of the case and sue.
Why would I bother sueing you? Do you know nothing of our legal system. Takes forever, and you end up with less that you'd hope for. Especially after lawyer fees, etc. But I forgive you, I understand it must be tough growing up and being molested by your uncle.
Also, I only removed you from the ignore list to see what you had to say about that song from Team America:World Police, you should go out and see it.
Meh, you really had nothing to say, anything worth my time.

li·bel Audio pronunciation of "libel" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbl)
n.

1.
1. A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
2. The act of presenting such material to the public.
2. The written claims presented by a plaintiff in an action at admiralty law or to an ecclesiastical court.

So anything that you "PUBLICATE" about "ME" that is "FALSE". Do you wish for me to define those words aswell?

[bdavid]

Hey assman, sue me for libel. Oh no! Ace and Assman are going to sue me for libel. Holy shit!

Hey I realize that Assman probably lives for this board but I really don't think he suffered damage. But feel free to sue.

Hey Ace- You're a dick too. Now you can make it a class action. Sue me for libel!

The Ballad of Ace

I don't like when people disagree with me
I'll put you on ignore and then you'll see
that the worls will have only one opinion
from sea to shining sea

(of course Assman won't see it with his head up his ass but thats ok)

[ASsman]

Hey I realize that Assman probably lives for this board but I really don't think he suffered damage. But feel free to sue.
Of course I do. Actually Im here as much as you are on here. Stayed home from school today, felt like shit. Saw a swarm of ignorant locusts attack the boards, so I decided to swing my bat around.


I'm So Ronery
I'm so ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry

[bdavid]

You forgor one little point assman- where did it damage your reputation? First- no one knows who the hell you are. Second- even if they did it still wouldn't explain how your reputation was damaged.

And I'll guarantee I know more about the legal system than you.

But feel free to explain those words if you like.

Assman

[ASsman]

For one, you started the thread by attacking me. Then you proceeded to undermine my credibility. I would quote parts, but I would be quoting you.... And you know what you posted.

[Ace42]

I realize in your sphere of thinking, anyone with a different view would be sued or charged with slander or libel but that's not the way it works.

Read what I said again. You do not have to be sued or charged with libel for something to be libelous. Read the dictionary, any (non-legal) dictionary. You will see that "prosecution" of the offence does not come into it.

besides if tht's all it takes, you've committed about 75 acts of libel.

For something to be libel, it has to be *false* - read the dictionary, learn what the word *actually* means, instead of what you *want* it to mean, then think about how it has been used.

You're embarrassing yourself.

By illustrating I have a greater command of the English language than you? I am so ashamed!

Seriously. Explain how I damaged his reputation.

Defamation:
1 : communication to third parties of false statements about a person that injure the reputation of or deter others from associating with that person

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=defamation

Now, would you want to associate with someone who is (in your words) a "dick" ?

No, thus your words would deter others from associating them, and are totally unfounded, meaning that the term is defamatory, and thus libelous.


And to your point that you were using libel in a literal sense and not a legal sense- Its a legal term,

Harrassment is a "legal term" - but it is also has a litteral sense which is not defined in a legal framework. I can "harrass" someone online, without it legally qualifying as "harrassment" as thus making me liable to prosecution.

The same with "theft" - it has a very specific legal definition (theft, as opposed to Fraud or Extortion, all seperate crimes) and yet you'd not say that extorting money out of people isn't "theft."

DYS?

there's no other way to use it. Unless you live in a piece of shit country, like you probably do.

Dictionary.com is NOT a UK website.

You're the one arguing the dictionary is wrong, FFS. And you expect people to listen to you? If you can't even accept the dictionary definition of words, how can you possibly expect anyone to listen to what you have to say?

[bdavid]

You see Assman, you can't just prove a couple points of the definition to constitute libel. First that I printed it. Second that it was in facat false-(which it isn't). Third-that it damaged your reputation.

If you can't prove all three then you really haven't shown libel then have you?

No.

But that was nice the way you selectively used only parts of the definition.

Good try.

[ASsman]

(lb)

[bdavid]

Read what I said again. You do not have to be sued or charged with libel for something to be libelous. Read the dictionary, any (non-legal) dictionary. You will see that "prosecution" of the offence does not come into it.



For something to be libel, it has to be *false* - read the dictionary, learn what the word *actually* means, instead of what you *want* it to mean, then think about how it has been used.



By illustrating I have a greater command of the English language than you? I am so ashamed!



Defamation:
1 : communication to third parties of false statements about a person that injure the reputation of or deter others from associating with that person

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=defamation

Now, would you want to associate with someone who is (in your words) a "dick" ?

No, thus your words would deter others from associating them, and are totally unfounded, meaning that the term is defamatory, and thus libelous.




Harrassment is a "legal term" - but it is also has a litteral sense which is not defined in a legal framework. I can "harrass" someone online, without it legally qualifying as "harrassment" as thus making me liable to prosecution.

The same with "theft" - it has a very specific legal definition (theft, as opposed to Fraud or Extortion, all seperate crimes) and yet you'd not say that extorting money out of people isn't "theft."

DYS?



Dictionary.com is NOT a UK website.

You're the one arguing the dictionary is wrong, FFS. And you expect people to listen to you? If you can't even accept the dictionary definition of words, how can you possibly expect anyone to listen to what you have to say?
And how have I injured his reputation or caused others from disassociating with assman?

You wrote a lot of shit, it just doesn't mean anything.

Whether or not I would associate with a dick is irrelevant. you would need to prove the injury, not merely speculate it woul occur.

[Whois]

Don't you listen to a word they say, baby. They're all just jealous.

:D (y)

[Ace42]

And how have I injured his reputation or caused others from disassociating with assman?

Muh, it should be obvious. Try working it out. Actually, don't, it is quicker for me the explain it, and then you to reply and expose your ignorance to everyone reading.

You call Assman a dick, someone reads "Assman is a dick" (such a dick he has to have a whole thread about him calling him a dick!) and what do you think they are going to assume, based on that?

You think that any undecided person on this forum is going to read that and ignore it? Evidently not, otherwise you'd not've just posted for a circle jerk, and that would undermine your point in the thread anyway.

So you wrote this to influence people. Now you were not complimenting him, so you were writing this to influence people *negatively*

So, very simply, if you make someone think more negatively of Assman, they will NOT want to associate themselves with him (either by being aligned to him, or even merely socialising with him).

Because you did this using *false* (or unsubstantiated) comments, this makes it *libelous*

You wrote a lot of shit, it just doesn't mean anything.

Well, you have to be able to understand the words I use properly for the meaning to be communicated. But as you consistantly argue that the dictionary is wrong, it is not surprising the words are meaningless to you.

Don't worry though, lots of mentaly subnormal people have literacy problems.

[bdavid]

Then maybe you hav literacy problems.

the definition you use says 'that damages a person's reputation'. It doesn't say that it may damage a person's reputation. There is a difference. One is saying that the person did, in fact, damage the other's reputation. Can you read that Ace? Not that it might- that it did. It doesn't say- an unreasonable person making asinine assumptions might conclude there is a small chance that one's reputation was damaged.

Second- What I wrote was not, in fact a misrepresentation of fact, but rather an opinion.

You wrong all star.

So get the dick.

[Ace42]

Then maybe you hav literacy problems.

the definition you use says 'that damages a person's reputation'. It doesn't say that it may damage a person's reputation. There is a difference. One is saying that the person did, in fact, damage the other's reputation. Can you read that Ace? Not that it might- that it did. It doesn't say- an unreasonable person making asinine assumptions might conclude there is a small chance that one's reputation was damaged.

Ok. I read it, and now I think assman is a cunt. ASSMAN, I TIHKN YOU'RE A CUNT.

I now do not want to associate with him, and thus I have made it libel.

Can you read that bdavid? Can you see why your hair-splitting is BS?

"damages" is a transitive verb. It suggests an "ongoing process" - not "a process that resulted in damage"

You don't know who is going to read this thread, you can't control it, you have no effect on what people who read it will think, beyond their interpretation of your words, which are designed to create a negative image of Assman.

Are you really trying to say that in the US, if someone printed a news article saying "such and such is a child-molesting pig-fucker, here are the pictures!" it would only become libel if someone came forward and said "well, that has caused me to hold such and such in a negative light" and until that point it's perfectly acceptable?

Bullshit. Quit running, bitch, you got nowhere to run to.

Second- What I wrote was not, in fact a misrepresentation of fact, but rather an opinion.

Opinions can be false (and thus libelous):

False Audio pronunciation of "false" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fôls)
adj. fals·er, fals·est

1. Contrary to fact or truth: false tales of bravery.
2. Deliberately untrue: delivered false testimony under oath.
3. Arising from mistaken ideas
4. Intentionally deceptive: a suitcase with a false bottom; false promises.
5. Not keeping faith; treacherous: a false friend. See Synonyms at faithless.
6. Not genuine or real: false teeth; false documents.


check #3 "arising from mistaken ideas"

Look, no matter how many words you try to redefine, you'll still be wrong.

[yeahwho]

I never wanted,

I never wanted,

To hold a man, like I want to hold you bdavid

[Daisy]

Jesus, shut the fuck up.