What's the reason for banning gay marriage?

[laserx54]

I mean, seriously?????

[Ace42]

Ask Cheney :rolleyes:

[Parkey]

Because gay people look at you in the leisure centre showers! They fancy every man you know! The dirty fucks... God will not like this.

[ASsman]

Because being gay ... is just so gay.

[Whois]

Because gay people won't make babies, and since the ONLY purpose of marrage is procreation (or so I've been told)...

Which means me and the wife will have to get a divorce since we can't have children.

BRILLIANT!

[marsdaddy]

I kind of addressed this in the "why be a conservative" thread. But my answer here is that people who are afraid of gay marriage are also afraid to admit that someone gay is just like them -- well, mostly.

Oh that, and wealth. If you die and can pass your assets onto a homosexual partner, you've now create a channel of wealth for generations. In a couple of decades, homosexuals could actually become an even more powerful voting block with even more resources than *gasp* evangelicals. Not to mention those homosexual friendly kids they'd raise.

[ASsman]

Because being Gay is between a redneck and his sex pig. And no one elses business.

[yeahwho]

I mean, seriously?????

These folks are saving us from Gay (http://www.afa.net/) Marriage. They are a major reason.

[infidel]

But my answer here is that people who are afraid of gay marriage are also afraid to admit that someone gay is just like them -- well, mostly.

Exactly (y) It's nothing more than fear. They think if gayness becomes the norm they will fall into it because in truth they really are gay.
The people who really don't care about it either way are the only true hetrosexuals.

[Baraka]

Don't you know? Gay marriage will bring about the destruction of the traditional family and American values. :rolleyes:

[ASsman]

This thread is gay.

[yeahwho]

This thread is gay.

It didn't start out that way, we were all sucked into it.

[jdawg77]

assman u really are what your name says, an ass.


I am saddened that my state of Michigan was 1 of the 11 states that over whelmingly voted to ban gay marriage. In today's paper there is an article about how all these couples who have benefits now as homosexual couples will be losing their benefits after their contracts expire cause they are in violation of the constitution. It is all bullshit and I have lost respect for everyone that voted in favor of banning gay marraiage


http://lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041104/NEWS01/411040343&SearchID=73188969602486

[ASsman]

What have I done to you know, prick.

[jdawg77]

you mean what have you done to me now? :p I am just still fuming over one of your posts on another board :p

[ASsman]

I only post on these boards. I have only posted one or twain posts in other boards (more correctly forums).

[jdawg77]

another board as in another thread on this BEASTIE BOYS FORUM, happy now?

[Ace42]

another board as in another thread on this BEASTIE BOYS FORUM, happy now?

see, that wasn't so hard, was it?

[Space]

the only reason i have heard is so that there will be no Gay Divorce.

/drama

[Echewta]

Why blame your problems on yourself when you can blame them on somebody else?

Thank you.

[jdawg77]

no thank you

[endofmystump]

Gay people should be able to get married too. There is no reason they should not be entitled to be as miserable as the rest of us.

[afronaut]

Many studies have proven gay people can't properly raise children. Give the gay people civil unions, not marriage. Marriage is an isstution of God. The Americian people made the correct choice!
Yes, its an institution of god. And as long as homosexual marriage is between consenting adult human beings and causing no bodily harm to anyone else, the government has absolutely no right amending the constitution based on religious definitions, no right to say who's allowed to marry, and no right to tell the churches who they're allowed to marry.

Hey mr america, whats it say in the constitution about religion and government? you tell me bucko.

What is it that says something about religious freedom? people are allowed to worship and in believe in their own personal way or personal definitions? It seems to me that banning homosexual marriage is based on religion, and not just religion, a uniform religious definition of marriage. how is that freedom of religion or beliefs? two strikes there.

You call yourself a "true american" and "patriot". you're the farthest thing from it.

[SobaViolence]

Many studies have proven gay people can't properly raise children. Give the gay people civil unions, not marriage. Marriage is an isstution of God. The Americian people made the correct choice!

you're a fucking twat.

[Space]

well , ok. if you really want to seperate church and state then why do you have to goto a courthouse, and get a lincense and govenrment shit like that.

i am guessing that a church could do whatever they wanted, but the law wouldnt reconize it...

[ASsman]

Here you have 2 choices.
A. Marriage is a religious union, and cease to protect it. Seperation of church and state et.c
B. Marriage is a civil union, and then you cannot use religious beliefs to regulate it. Unless you want to be forced to go to towel-head school in the case of a make believe Muslim government.

If you choose A then shut up and get all those priests to stop marrying gay people.
If you choose B also shut up and deal with it.

[drobertson420]

The difference is:
Gay MARRIAGE is in "The Eyes of the Lord", and according to The Bible, God isn't too sweet on Homosexuality; Therefore, It's Blasphemy.

A Civil Union without the whole "God-Factor" is fine; all Gays want is the same
rights and benefits married couples have.

Let The Babies Have Their Bottle :p

[Baraka]

Segregationists, racists and the KKK used "God" and the "Bible" to excuse their outright hatred and biggotry.

Now, the same applies to homosexuals.

What's next? "God" and the "Bible" are oppossed to protecting the environment?

[drobertson420]

Segregationists, racists and the KKK used "God" and the "Bible" to excuse their outright hatred and biggotry.

Now, the same applies to homosexuals.

What's next? "God" and the "Bible" are oppossed to protecting the environment?

"I once read in The Bible that God Hates Trees"
"O.K. Boys, Let 'er Rip!!!"
(Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)

[Schmeltz]

Marriage is an isstution of God.


Leaving aside what the structure of this quote implies about the intelligence of those who oppose granting equal rights to everybody, your personal religious beliefs do not constitute a valid argument in favour of any legislative policy whatsoever.

[Beth]

marriage isn't a separation of church and state issue.

yes, you are required to get a license by each state. you are not required to get married in a church. you are only required to get married by someone who is authorized to perform marriage ceremonies. if your state said you could only get married in a church, then you would have a valid separation of church and state argument.

banning homosexuals from marrying is an equal protection issue.

[beastinotaranie]

It's about the Bible really. This election came down to gays, abortion and perceived morality.
its not all about the bible to me. i do believe it is wrong. but just think about it, if u dont believe in God, then whoever did make us, yes we were made, evolution's full of holes, did not INTEND FOR THE SAME SEX TO HAVE SEX. part A only goes with part B, its not a diffucult concept to grasp. Part A doesnt go with part A, thats not how it works. this world is so fucked up with all this acceptance bullshit. we shouldnt accept something if its wrong or just something we dont like, we should just tolerate it, not accept it. and bout the marriage. i think we should have a "marriage" for gays, but not an actual marriage. it should just be for tax purposes and gov't benefits that married couples receive.

[paulk]

its not all about the bible to me. i do believe it is wrong. but just think about it, if u dont believe in God, then whoever did make us, yes we were made, evolution's full of holes, did not INTEND FOR THE SAME SEX TO HAVE SEX. part A only goes with part B, its not a diffucult concept to grasp. Part A doesnt go with part A, thats not how it works. this world is so fucked up with all this acceptance bullshit. we shouldnt accept something if its wrong or just something we dont like, we should just tolerate it, not accept it. and bout the marriage. i think we should have a "marriage" for gays, but not an actual marriage. it should just be for tax purposes and gov't benefits that married couples receive.

God didn't intend for us to eat refined wheat products and partially hydrogenated oils.

[yeahwho]

this world is so fucked up with all this acceptance bullshit. we shouldnt accept something if its wrong or just something we dont like, we should just tolerate it, not accept it.

That is some real compassionate thinking. Gays should be tolerated. And only to the point of marriage, then they should only have a marriage for tax purposes and govt. benefits? Why not think about real (http://www.unfpa.org/aids_clock/main.htm) issues on this planet. Evolution may be a joke to some, devolution is what transpires while you worry about acceptance of somebody else's love. Weird mindset the anti-gay marriage folks.

[Baraka]

its not all about the bible to me. i do believe it is wrong. but just think about it, if u dont believe in God, then whoever did make us, yes we were made, evolution's full of holes, did not INTEND FOR THE SAME SEX TO HAVE SEX. part A only goes with part B, its not a diffucult concept to grasp. Part A doesnt go with part A, thats not how it works. this world is so fucked up with all this acceptance bullshit. we shouldnt accept something if its wrong or just something we dont like, we should just tolerate it, not accept it. and bout the marriage. i think we should have a "marriage" for gays, but not an actual marriage. it should just be for tax purposes and gov't benefits that married couples receive.

Shut up you stupid homophobic. You're just frightened by the thought of two people of the same sex having a physical relationship.

[infidel]

Originally Posted by beastinotaranie
this world is so fucked up with all this acceptance bullshit. we shouldnt accept something if its wrong or just something we dont like, we should just tolerate it, not accept it.
Following this line of thinking then the Romans were totally justified in crucifying Jesus and his followers because they were "different".

[drobertson420]

marriage isn't a separation of church and state issue.

yes, you are required to get a license by each state. you are not required to get married in a church. you are only required to get married by someone who is authorized to perform marriage ceremonies. if your state said you could only get married in a church, then you would have a valid separation of church and state argument.

banning homosexuals from marrying is an equal protection issue.

The service would have to be performed by an Ordained Minister(or Insert any
cleric of choice) Therefore, it's in the Eyes of God. (Insert "God Of Choice" Here)
A Civil Union is just Paperwork...
You Don't have to be married in a church for it to be a wedding, but you'll still need to find a Priest that Sky-dives..... :D

[Whois]

Because bdavid and abdul would marry, and thus continue to spread their disease...and who wants that?

:D (y)

[bdavid]

You realize Kerry wasn't supporting gay marraige don't you?

[yeahwho]

You realize Kerry wasn't supporting gay marraige don't you?


Like Bush, Kerry opposes gay marriage, but, unlike the president he opposes amending the US Constitution to forbid same-sex union.

[SobaViolence]

either we're all free or we're all in chains.

forbidding freedom is forbidding freedom, no matter if it's blacks, catholics, iraqis or gays.

America is the land of the free....supposedly. act like it you cunts.

[Beth]

The service would have to be performed by an Ordained Minister(or Insert any
cleric of choice) Therefore, it's in the Eyes of God. (Insert "God Of Choice" Here)
A Civil Union is just Paperwork...
You Don't have to be married in a church for it to be a wedding, but you'll still need to find a Priest that Sky-dives..... :D
i'm well aware of what a civil union is as i went to law school, i was merely pointing out that marriage is not a separation of church and state issue.

what i don't understand is why the push to call homosexual marriages "civil unions." just to appease the so-called christians? if churches didn't want to perform the marriage ceremonies of homosexual couples, they obviously wouldn't have to as that is against their religion. fine; there are still judges and notarys public, and people who get ordained online that can perform ceremonies. when hetero couples get married by a judge or by a notary public, it's still called a marriage, not a civil union.

just sayin'

[Whois]

marriage isn't a separation of church and state issue.

yes, you are required to get a license by each state. you are not required to get married in a church. you are only required to get married by someone who is authorized to perform marriage ceremonies. if your state said you could only get married in a church, then you would have a valid separation of church and state argument.

banning homosexuals from marrying is an equal protection issue.

:cool: (y)

BTW is that you in your avatar and if so...what kind of handgun?

(I collect firearms)

[Ace42]

what i don't understand is why the push to call homosexual marriages "civil unions." just to appease the so-called christians?

Because people don't like words being comandeered and altered to mean something they do not traditionally mean. It's like calling a bus a "car" - well yes they both have four wheels and are used to convey people around, but there is clearly a distinction.

[yeahwho]

either we're all free or we're all in chains.

forbidding freedom is forbidding freedom, no matter if it's blacks, catholics, iraqis or gays.

America is the land of the free....supposedly. act like it you cunts.

Exactly.

I think you can be free to oppose anything you want. That doesn't mean gay marriage should be regulated in anyway shape or form. I just don't understand the logic, the gay people should rise up and let the AFA know how repugnant they think a union between a man and woman is.

Personal choice and freedoms are not going to affect the Fucking War on Terror. They are morality issues of the Christian Fundalmentalists. It's just feeding the Militant Muslim Machine that terrorizes us. A self perpetuating prohecy. This whole gay marriage issue is a distraction.

[olivier]

I think that all kind of wedding should be banned. It's a non sense.

[ASsman]

Lets go back to the swinging and massive orgies of the 70's.

[Beth]

:cool: (y)

BTW is that you in your avatar and if so...what kind of handgun?

(I collect firearms)
yes, that's me, and it's a beretta

[drobertson420]

You realize Kerry wasn't supporting gay marriage don't you?


Because "Slick Willie" Told Him To....

[drobertson420]

Lets go back to the swinging and massive orgies of the 70's.


God-Damn!!! That Would Be Tight!!! :cool:

[drobertson420]

Because bdavid and abdul would marry, and thus continue to spread their disease...and who wants that?


"He's A Laugh-Riot, Ladies and Genlemen!"........
:D (y)
:D

[drobertson420]

yes, that's me, and it's a beretta

So You're A "GunTotin', Meat-Eatin'" Liberal?!!!

Ed Schultz...........Sorry.........
:o

[paulk]

Nice quadruple post.

[Beth]

So You're A "GunTotin', Meat-Eatin'" Liberal?!!!
you say that like it's a bad thing

[Happyrunr]

I mean, seriously?????
Because marriage is between a man/wife. They SHOULD get recognized as common law so they can get the BENEFITS of marriage, but that should be it.
Or else we'll have people marrying animals, inanimate objects, etc.

[yeahwho]

Or else we'll have people marrying animals, inanimate objects, etc.

That is so inhumane. How about can we marry animated objects?

[drobertson420]

God didn't intend for us to eat refined wheat products and partially hydrogenated oils.


I believe "Wheat Thins" are in The Bible....

[drobertson420]

Because marriage is between a man/wife. They SHOULD get recognized as common law so they can get the BENEFITS of marriage, but that should be it.
Or else we'll have people marrying animals, inanimate objects, etc.

I'm Trying to get a Marriage Liscense to marry my Computer...

[ASsman]

I've enpregnated mine. The baby is 80% done, we expected it in a Estimated 240 hours 3 minutes.

[Schmeltz]

Most of the Americian people support a ban on gay marriage.


Most of the A-m-e-r-i-c-a-n people used to support a ban on equal rights for blacks, too. That didn't make it right.

Face it, your religion isn't a license to enshrine your personal morality as legislation. That's how they do things in the Middle East, not in the free world. Idiot.

[Kold]

Most of the A-m-e-r-i-c-a-n people used to support a ban on equal rights for blacks, too. That didn't make it right.

Face it, your religion isn't a license to enshrine your personal morality as legislation. That's how they do things in the Middle East, not in the free world. Idiot.


Uhhh. No.

People are going to vote for what they believe, why would they vote against something they don't believe? That's stupid of you to assume. The free world? What are we free to do? Express our beliefs. Of course we're going to look out for us and get the laws that we want passed, that's the whole point of legislation, you genius. And someone else would have to agree, because the laws got passed.

I don't agree with banning gay marriage, but there are those that do obviously, so either I will get a group of supporters of gay marriage and try to use my personal morality to get the law changed. If you're not using your personal morality, then who's are you?

[ASsman]

For example, I voted on referendum 910. "The Final Solution", I don't want anyone elses moral values forced upon me.

[beastinotaranie]

That is some real compassionate thinking. Gays should be tolerated. And only to the point of marriage, then they should only have a marriage for tax purposes and govt. benefits? Why not think about real (http://www.unfpa.org/aids_clock/main.htm) issues on this planet. Evolution may be a joke to some, devolution is what transpires while you worry about acceptance of somebody else's love. Weird mindset the anti-gay marriage folks.
i dont give a shit about all of this cuz its minute, like u said, to other issues. i was just giving my thoughts on this, isnt this where im supposed to do it?

[Schmeltz]

As far as I'm concerned, Kold, the whole issue revolves around the fact that gay marriage shouldn't be a matter placed before the public to decide any more than segregation should have been. "Morality" shouldn't even enter into the equation. The dispensation of equal rights and freedoms should be an empirical and rational process, and should not rely on emotive sentiment - ie anybody's private idea of what is moral - as an arbiter. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't feel free to express your beliefs - obviously that's one of the hallmarks of our culture - but the expression of those beliefs should not extend to legislation that forces a dissenting minority to conform to them. Not every issue should be decided simply on the basis of a vote.

[Kold]

How can you ban something that wasn't allowed in the first place?

[Schmeltz]

Just read that my home province has formally legitimized gay marriage. Chalk one up for freedom. :D

[D_Raay]

Let me teach you some things. Most of the Americian people support a ban on gay marriage.

Seperation of Church and State was intended to keep the state out of church affairs. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! Read it if you must!
This Great Nation was founded on Christian principals. I say give the gay people civil unions but not Marriage!
I would never want to be a member of a group whose symbol was a guy nailed to two pieces of wood.

[paulk]

The baby is 80% done, we expected it in a Estimated 240 hours 3 minutes.

HAHA YES (y)

[ASsman]

Don't quote him D Raay.

Also, yes it's true. You are able to choose in each of your states. Just like some states let women vote and others didn't. It's democracy. But to try and make it a federal law? And amend the Constitution? Now wait just a dog gone minute.

[drobertson420]

I've enpregnated mine. The baby is 80% done, we expected it in a Estimated 240 hours 3 minutes.


I hope it has all it's ports when it comes out...
:D

[ASsman]

This message is hidden because gmsisko1 is on your queer list.

[Schmeltz]

You are a twat and an Inch Whipper!



If you don't believe now, you will. Please don't let it be too late!


You embody everything that is wrong with Christianity.

PS - it doesn't matter how many Americianananians agree with you, it is still immoral to withhold rights from people based on your personal religious beliefs. You sicken me.

[SobaViolence]

No one wants to withhold rights. We want to give them Civil Unions. We want to give them the same rights, just don't call it marriage!

esti de pute, maudite american...

freedom isn't given.

it's an undisputed right bestowed upon (supposedly) every human being. so fuck you, twat.

[Funkaloyd]

Seperate but equal, eh?

[Kold]

What the hell is going on in this topic?

Yes, seperate but equal. I really have nothing against gays, but marriage is between a man and a woman. That's all, that's my thing. Sure gays can have all the rights they want, but marriage is between a man and a woman. Always has been, why change it?

[SobaViolence]

gays have every right to have their love recognized and validated by the state.

they are human beings. and love is love. (when consentual)

[Powor_Gen5]

Actually most Americians agree with me and not you. I am not a twat. You are a twat and an Inch Whipper!

(n) amazing!! here you are preaching about gay marriage, representing the christian community and this is what you say?? understanding that christians (or anyone) is not perfect but my gosh.....you need to check that.....

and another thing, I am a Christian and an American but I do not agree with hateful politics....so I don't think it is so much of an arguement of "more people agree with me than you".....we can believe in what we want, it's the HATE that comes behind it...you think Jesus would be proud of the HATE that is being shown in this country, to me that's the important thing.....love, compassion and hope, we lose that we lose everything and I don't mean "we" as christians I mean "we" as in mankind.....no divide.....

[paulk]

Always has been, why change it?

You could have preceded that with any number of statements.

Like if it was the year 1800, "Them niggers always be slaves".

[Spanishbomb808]

It's like a plug and a wall socket, see.

Two plugs or two sockets just aren't right.

[paulk]

It's like a plug and a wall socket, see.

Two plugs or two sockets just aren't right.

Ah, finally, terms we can understand.

[toreadore]

Hey GMSisko, since you know your bible so well and also refers to it, maybe you could answer these questions:

Dr. Laura Schlesinger is a well known
radiopersonality in the US, advising people who
phone in with their problems.

Recently she advised one of the callers, referring
to 3. Moses 18:22, that homosexuality is obscene
and can under no circumstances be tolerated. The
following is an open letter to Dr. Schlesinger from
an anonymous American citizen:

Dear Dr. Schlesinger,

Thank you for your efforts in teaching the people
about Gods commandments.
I have learnt a lot from you and I try to share this
knowledge with as many people as I can. If anyone
tries to defend homosexuality I only refer to 3.
Moses 18:22 where it is clearly written that
homosexuality is unacceptable.
That ends the discussion.

Now I need some advise how to live by the word of
God:

1. Each time I burn an ox in my garden as a
sacrifice to God I know that this pleases the Lord.
(3 Moses 1:9) The problem is my neighbours, who
do not like the smell.

2. I want to sell my daughter as a slave (2. Moses
21:7) With todays price level, what would be the
right price?

3. In 3. Moses 24:24 it is clearly stated that I can
have both male and female slaves, as long as they
are bought from a neighbouring country. A
friend of mine claims that this only applies to
Mexicans and not Canadians.
I need help on this. Can I have a Canadian slave?

4. I have a neighbour who insists on working on
the Sabbath. 2. Moses 35:2 clearly states that he
must be killed. Am I morally obliged to do this
myself?

5. One of my friends says that even if eating
shellfish is not acceptable (3.Moses 11:10),
homosexuality is worse. I disagree - who is right?

6. 3. Moses 21:20 clearly states that I must now
approach Gods altar if I do not see well. I am
nearsighted and wear glasses. Must my eyesight
be perfect, or is there a certain tolerance?

7. Most of my friends go to the hairdressers. They
cut their sideburns and trim their beards. 3. Moses
19:27 clearly defines this as a sin. How should
they be punished?

8. I have read in 3. Moses 11:7-8 that I cannot
touch any part of a dead pig, as this will make me
unclean. Can I play American football if I wear
gloves?

9. My uncle has a farm. He is sinning against
3.Moses 19:19 as he has two different crops in
the same field. His wife is as bad because she
wears textiles made from two different types of
cloth - a mixture of cotton and polyester. My uncle
also swears a lot. Is it really required that we
gather the people of the village to stone them to
death (3. Moses 24:10-16). Is it not easier to burn
them during a family gathering the way we should
do with people who have sex with their relatives
(3. Moses 20:14)?

I know that you are good at advising on problems
such as the above and am sure that you can help
me. Thank you for constantly reminding us that
Gods word is eternal and unalterable.

[SobaViolence]

ban it, then.

time will vindicate compassion and love.

always has, always will.

[QueenAdrock]

Marriage is an instution of God. The first marriage was recorded in the Bible. It is a proven fact that gay people can't properly raise children.

Proven fact by who? Jerry Falwell? If you actually KNEW anything as opposed to spewing off your right-winged facist ignorance, you would know that there are a few couples in America today who have daughters/sons they adopted. I read a story of a girl with two gay dads she named "dad" and "pop". When asked if she would ever want a mother, she replied "Why would I want to? I have enough love from both my fathers to last a lifetime." But please, show me this "PROVEN FACT" you have, because I guarantee you, you can't find it. You know it's not proven. It's more proven that they can raise children.

If marriage is such an institution of God, why is there divorce? Hmm? Why would half this country be getting divorced if it's so fuckin' sacred? Being allowed to get married for 24 hours so you can properly get your sex on without going to hell, then annulling the marriage, doesn't seem too HOLY to me. But it happens all the time. Look at Ms. Spears. Married for what, 12 hours? It's okay, she can go to Vegas, get hitched, fuck for 12 hours, then get divorced, and it's A-OKAY by God!

There's so many people in this country that abuse their children. Child abuse, child sexual abuse is rampant and disgusting. And guess what? THEY'RE ALL STRAIGHT COUPLES WHO DO IT. I find it stupid that Christians say NOT to get an abortion, that you should give it up for adoption. But it's only okay to adopt if you're straight. Do you really think straight people would rather adopt? No. They want kids of their own. They'd adopt if they CAN'T have kids, which isn't a lot of the population. There are a lot of unwanted children out there in this country, and I admire the fact that gays want to share their love with a child.

I have a friend who was raised by her aunt and her mother. She had "two moms" but no father figure. And she's just fine. She loves both of them, they both helped raise her. Is that wrong? Should her mother and aunt NOT have raised her? Two mothers worked out great for her, so why is it any different than if they were two gay mothers?

I believe God wants more love in this country, not hate. Christian are the ones with the hate. They hate gays enough to tell them they can't give proper loving homes to these unwanted children. I find that sickening and repulisive that you're that afraid of FAGS to tell them how to run their lives. If gays want to love children, to take care of them, by all means, let them.

[SobaViolence]

2 points...

1. Britney was married for 55 hours. ;)

2. I thought Republicans hated 'big government' interfeering in our everyday lives? telling us who can adopt and who can't, who can get married and who can't, sounds pretty liberal to me...oh excuse me, sounds pretty fascist.

[QueenAdrock]

Yeah, I was talking to my Political Ideologies professor about that, he says there's a huge flip-flop recently. 'Conservative' doesn't mean what it used to, the liberals are now more 'conservative', not wanting to invade other countries and having the government out of everyone's business. So I'm proud to say at this point, I'm a conservative democrat.

[Señor Stino]

Look Bub, that is not the same thing. Black People, White people, and all races should have the same rights. This country was founded on Christian principals. If you don't like it, move to Hollywood, or Canada, or better yet FRANCE! As I said before give the gay people Civil Unions. Don't give them marriage. Marriage is an instution of God. The first marriage was recorded in the Bible. It is a proven fact that gay people can't properly raise children. The ideal way to raise a child is with a mother and a father.

don't send them to France ! that country was founded on Christian principals !

yeah, and about the "proven fact" , queenadrock already challenged you to give us that, by I just know you will never reply to that question and just come with some new ridiculous arguments

[paulk]

'Conservative' doesn't mean what it used to, the liberals are now more 'conservative', not wanting to invade other countries and having the government out of everyone's business.

The want the government out of everyone's business? You must be kidding.

[QueenAdrock]

Yeah. Liberals want the government to be out of everyone else's business, we don't like dictatorships.

[paulk]

I don't like the government "dictating" to me who I have to give my money to.

[ragdoll_92]

Well I'm going to be at my friend Nicks gay wedding inext year. I'm best man and I'm a girl.
They're blissfully happy and couldnt imagine their lives without each other.
So if thats what they want thenthey should have it. It's not going to do any one else any harm and if they want to be parents then those kids would be lucky to have them.
Live and let live. If you dont wanna see it just walk away.

[drobertson420]

You embody everything that is wrong with Christianity.

PS - it doesn't matter how many Americianananians agree with you, it is still immoral to withhold rights from people based on your personal religious beliefs. You sicken me.
Yea. Ever see that Movie "In The Mouth of Madness"?

Some horror novelist outsells the Bible, and it becomes the "New Reality"

Very Lovecraftian :eek:

[drobertson420]

Look Bub, that is not the same thing. Black People, White people, and all races should have the same rights. This country was founded on Christian principals. If you don't like it, move to Hollywood, or Canada, or better yet FRANCE! As I said before give the gay people Civil Unions. Don't give them marriage. Marriage is an instution of God. The first marriage was recorded in the Bible.


Right On The Money! (y)

[QueenAdrock]

I'll give you a tidbit of info on this board: agreeing with the proven ignoramus, GMsisko, will just make you look retarded. (!)

[Funkaloyd]

time will vindicate compassion and love.

always has, always will.

I know what you mean, but I think that there's a danger in assuming this, or taking it for granted. It's very possible for a culture to become more conservative in response to perceived problems with liberalism. For example, take the emergence of fascism in the UK.

[Ace42]

Facism is the UK? Mosley was a socialist early in his political career.

[Schmeltz]

The first marriage was recorded in the Bible.

Dear sweet Christ on a tricycle, I didn't think that such idiocy was still possible in the modern age.

[SobaViolence]

and for the record, the church saw blacks and natives as godless savages.

so fuck you with that christian equality bullshit. the church was backing up the slave trade. asshole.

[ASsman]

Y'all best not make me take out my black Bible "bashing" book. Has pages among pages of Bible contradictions, and just plain out fucked up bullshit.

[Kold]

they are human beings. and love is love. (when consentual)

Yeah love is love. Whether one partner is 39 and the other is 16, it doesnt' matter. Love is love.

[ASsman]

Yeah love is love. Whether one partner is 39 and the other is 16, it doesnt' matter. Love is love.

First off, that is nearly off topic. Second of all he said CONSENTUAL.
Fool...

It is like saying, drinking is fine, we have the liberty to do so because we are humans.
And then arguing that children are humans aswell, and that letting them drink is the flaw in that logic.

[yeahwho]

Bend over, here it comes, straight from Karl Roves mouth,

President Bush "absolutely" will use his second term to push for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, his top political strategist said Sunday. Karl Rove, who oversaw Bush's re-election victory, said Bush will renew the effort, which failed in Congress this year but may enjoy new support after 11 states approved bans on same-sex marriage on Election Day.

Sexy Photo of Rove in USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-11-07-rove-interview_x.htm)

[drobertson420]

I'll give you a tidbit of info on this board: agreeing with the proven ignoramus, GMsisko, will just make you look retarded. (!)


But he's Mostly right.....Mostly... :o

[drobertson420]

What if Bush proposes an Amendment making Civil Unions binding in All States? Then it wouldn't be "Marriage" and everyone would be happy... :confused:
...He should tack it on to the Gay-marriage ban amendment lol

(just a thought; no need to rip into me)

unless you just can't help it.... ;)

[Whois]

2. I thought Republicans hated 'big government' interfeering in our everyday lives? telling us who can adopt and who can't, who can get married and who can't, sounds pretty liberal to me...oh excuse me, sounds pretty fascist.

Shhh...you're not supposed to mention that, it makes the Repubs uncomfortable. Remember, they support state's rights as long as the states don't do anything...wrong.

[Whois]

yes, that's me,

(y)

and it's a beretta

(n)

[infidel]

MOSES IS NOT A BOOK IN THE BIBLE!!!!




MOSES IS NOT A BOOK IN THE BIBLE! FACTS MAN FACTS!
He says as the fear of come dripping down his chin rages out of control

[paulk]

He says as the fear of come dripping down his chin rages out of control

And the three wise men came unto gmsisko...

[marsdaddy]

This Great Nation was founded on Christian principals.Really? I thought it was founded on escaping taxation from the King of England and stealing land from Indians?
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!You do realize, you can't just say something and make it fact, right?

Hmm, wait. Let me try this: The majority of Americans think gmsisko is an idiot. Yeah...that's cool.

Um, gay marriage was a diversionary issue. The economy sucks, the US shouldn't be in Iraq and we're losing lives daily, we haven't gotten close to Bin Laden, the rest of the world thinks we're idiots -- wait, let's focus on gay marriage.

Prediction: Before the next election, the Supreme Court will test Roe v. Wade (abortion).

Edit: Besides the 'fact' that marriage "has always been between a man and a woman" why else ban it? Forget religion since the majority of us Americans are heathens. Can you come up with one real reason to ban gay marriage? Other than it makes you uncomfortable?

[drobertson420]

MOSES IS NOT A BOOK IN THE BIBLE!!!!








Moses is So "Old Testament!"

[drobertson420]

Following this line of thinking then the Romans were totally justified in crucifying Jesus and his followers because they were "different".

Yea. And look how that scenario worked out!