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ASsman
11-07-2004, 01:47 PM
Hmmm, let's change some of those words. Better yet, how about just one. Let's put Bush instead of Stalin. I will the provide arguments for this.
FYI: Got this quote from the History Channel Special Stalin:Man of Steel, from a survivor of the Gulags.

"No Bread on the table, but Bush on the wall"
Let's break it down, so that people can't attack my playing around with the quote. But also my arguments backing it up.

1. It can mean that the Lower-Class, Lower Middle-Class, is getting the shaft (e.g taxes, healthcare, hell even the sending of their children to a false war, Since the majority of the Reserves are from this income bracket). While they stay loyal to Bush.
2. Another point that can be made using this quote, blind patriotism. How the media and FOX propaganda can fill peoples heads with false words, and unjust causes.
3. This could also be used to illustrate the point of "fool me twice" idea. So far they are not fed "no bread on the table", promises have been made. Bush can't say "I won't lie like the last President", "Ill do everything I promise", "So I guess I better promise to invade Iran". He has had 4 years, "Bush" is still "on the wall".
4. We could look at it in a deeper, vaguer sense. Stalin was loved by the ignorant, hated by the ones who knew the truth. Hated also by those directly effected by his atrocities. Of course we will never see (I have not) the statistics for how many soldiers voted for Bush/Kerry. And we never will, Pentagon knows what it is able to do to moral.
People who saw this (like the person from which this quote was taken) thought it was preposterous. People who didn't, merely put up Stalin posters on their walls while others starved to death. (not to say some did it because of the NKVD, and not wanting to see un-patriotic...another parallel can be drawn here too, but I won't go there right now).

paulk
11-07-2004, 01:53 PM
The proles are our last hope.

brendan
11-07-2004, 02:05 PM
i couldn't agree with you more...if you question the government, suggest they've done something wrong or want to know how many iraq's we've killed...you're accused of being pro-sadam and you hate america. when are we going to start with the bush statues, paintings and posters???

bdavid
11-08-2004, 06:50 AM
Your argument is so gerenalized it doesn't make sense.

Not to mention- you do realize there are alternatives to Fox news right?


I don't really think you can equate Russian peasants having their last hog taken by the government for the good of the mother country to an economic recession.

If anything its the lliberal mindset that seeks to collect the riches from the country as a whole and redistribute them for the 'good of all'

Good luck with that though. I didn't realize the Republican party had become the pro-tax party. As long as it fits in your biased mind set though - no problem right?

Whois
11-08-2004, 12:02 PM
The proles are our last hope.

"No, there is another..." - Master Yoda

ASsman
11-08-2004, 04:48 PM
Your argument is so gerenalized it doesn't make sense.

Not to mention- you do realize there are alternatives to Fox news right?


I don't really think you can equate Russian peasants having their last hog taken by the government for the good of the mother country to an economic recession.

If anything its the lliberal mindset that seeks to collect the riches from the country as a whole and redistribute them for the 'good of all'

Good luck with that though. I didn't realize the Republican party had become the pro-tax party. As long as it fits in your biased mind set though - no problem right?

Heh, thanks for putting words in my mouth. Next I will put my cold sausage in yours. Oh wait thats kinda gay, and we can't have that. Also yes I did point out they were very general. Thanks again for ignoring my post.
But my points were made. And I assume a certain quality of knowledge. Which you obviouly lack.

paulk
11-08-2004, 05:55 PM
I didn't realize the Republican party had become the pro-tax party.

Wake up and smell the bullshit.

And read this: Who Loves Big Government Now? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=37773)