Give me freedom, or give me Soma!

[Ace42]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4017321.stm

[drobertson420]

Soma....Good tune by Smashing Pumpkins....

Bunch of child-dopers over there,eh?

[Ace42]

It's to help them get over the trauma of being repeatedly molested by their teachers.

[racer5.0stang]

Maybe the children need parents who act like parents.

[Ace42]

That's ironic, considering that the US bible-belt has one of the worst records for child-abuse in the first world. Didn't hear about all those catholic priests abusing little boys, eh?

[ASsman]

That's because Jesus lets them drink.

[Whois]

That's because Jesus lets them drink.

You realize that by changing water to wine Jesus was violating biblical rules against witchcraft and alchemy and should have been killed?

I thinks that's screamingly funny.

[ASsman]

Blasphemy!

[racer5.0stang]

That's ironic, considering that the US bible-belt has one of the worst records for child-abuse in the first world. Didn't hear about all those catholic priests abusing little boys, eh?

Revelation 19
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

The great whore is the Roman Catholic Church. Hey wasn't Kerry an altar boy?

[Jasonik]

prescribing of....mind-altering drugs to children...between 2000 and 2002....the UK saw a 68% rise in children being prescribed drugs to stimulate or calm the brain.

...ensuring an adequate supply of future consumer-pleb-sheep. baaaaaaaaa!

[Ace42]

The great whore is the Roman Catholic Church.

And Jesus was Judas. Spare me your ignorant supposition argued as fact. Even if you assume the bible is "right" - your interpretation of it is barely consistant and tangibly perverse. Go talk to some theologians, they might be more interested in "A retard's take on the bible."

[racer5.0stang]

And Jesus was Judas. Spare me your ignorant supposition argued as fact. Even if you assume the bible is "right" - your interpretation of it is barely consistant and tangibly perverse. Go talk to some theologians, they might be more interested in "A retard's take on the bible."

You are just mad because I can understand it and you cannot, which is apparant. Maybe you should pray and ask God for forgiveness and the ability to understand the purpose for you being alive. Your constant babbling of scientific theories that you post on here is disterbing. Saying that Jesus is Judas shows how much you don't know about the bible. Unfortunatly for us, we will be judged for all of our works small and great. The judgement for some, will be unbearable, but all will be eternal. The truth is out there it is up to you whether you accept it or reject it.

[Qdrop]

The truth is out there it is up to you whether you accept it or reject it.

i reject it!

come and get me, satan!!

[STANKY808]

You are just mad because I can understand it and you cannot, which is apparant. Maybe you should pray and ask God for forgiveness and the ability to understand the purpose for you being alive. Your constant babbling of scientific theories that you post on here is disterbing. Saying that Jesus is Judas shows how much you don't know about the bible. Unfortunatly for us, we will be judged for all of our works small and great. The judgement for some, will be unbearable, but all will be eternal. The truth is out there it is up to you whether you accept it or reject it.

We'll that's it, no way around it, the Rapture is coming!

Oh wait, that's all bullshit! Taken from a Fairy Tale.

So now the "truth is out there" part makes sense. It's from another piece of fiction - The X-Files.

[Ace42]

The truth is out there it is up to you whether you accept it or reject it.

The truth is out there, and you're gonna have to die before you see just how off beam you are. Fortunately, I am not to bothered about how it will turn out for you, as simply living your life is probably punishment enough.

Arthur: So you can see into my mind?
Marvin: yes.
Arthur:And?
Marvin: It sursprises me how you can live in something so small.
Arthur: Ahh abuse
Marvin:Yeeeeeeess.

[racer5.0stang]

The truth is out there, and you're gonna have to die before you see just how off beam you are. Fortunately, I am not to bothered about how it will turn out for you, as simply living your life is probably punishment enough.

Arthur: So you can see into my mind?
Marvin: yes.
Arthur:And?
Marvin: It sursprises me how you can live in something so small.
Arthur: Ahh abuse
Marvin:Yeeeeeeess.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

[Ace42]

Well, unlike you, I am not waiting. And I am certainly not spending my time creating tortured and twisted interpretations of a rather clear and elegant text in order to legitimise a very tenous position.

[racer5.0stang]

Well, unlike you, I am not waiting. And I am certainly not spending my time creating tortured and twisted interpretations of a rather clear and elegant text in order to legitimise a very tenous position.

I hate to break it to you Ace, but 10 out 10 people die.

In the real world all you can do is wait, we cannot choose how we die, but we can choose where we go when we die.

[Ace42]

I hate to break it to you Ace, but 10 out 10 people die.

In the real world all you can do is wait, we cannot choose how we die, but we can choose where we go when we die.

wait Audio pronunciation of "wait" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wt)
v. wait·ed, wait·ing, waits
v. intr.

1.
1. To remain or rest in expectation: waiting for the guests to arrive. See Synonyms at stay1.
2. To tarry until another catches up.
2. To remain or be in readiness: lunch waiting on the table.

Let me see, I am not "staying" or "remaining" or continuing, I am in a state of flux.

So, while you might think you have to do bugger all apart from twiddling thumbs and wait for the rapture, you might want to take a look outside your window and notice all the life out there.

And we can choose how we die. I could get a gun now and choose to shoot myself.

And we do not get to choose where we go when we die. *All* christians believe they are judged after death. If someone judges you, you do not "choose."

If everyone got to "choose" where they went when they died, they'd all merely "pick to go to heaven"

And this is if you believe your assertions. If you are objective about this, the fact of the matter is, you don't know anyone who has died, so you can't know that to be the case. You believe it to be the case, but TBH, you believe all sorts of stupid shit, so if anything, that is an argument against it.

[ASsman]

Wow, we have moved on from arguing if a unjust war was just. And are now arguing whether religion can be proven by fact. Im still waiting on NOAH's FUCKING ARC.

[Rosie Cotton]

I hate to break it to you Ace, but 10 out 10 people die.

In the real world all you can do is wait, we cannot choose how we die, but we can choose where we go when we die.

If I have to hear this in heaven, then I choose hell. I'd probably hate everyone in heaven anyway.

Wait a sec, if their idea of heaven is my idea of hell, and I would prefer hell, then I would be sent to heaven anyway...Damn you god, you omnipotent bastard!

[ASsman]

Will there be virgins?

[Ace42]

Unless your virginity regrows in heaven / hell, no.

[racer5.0stang]

If I have to hear this in heaven, then I choose hell. I'd probably hate everyone in heaven anyway.

Wait a sec, if their idea of heaven is my idea of hell, and I would prefer hell, then I would be sent to heaven anyway...Damn you god, you omnipotent bastard!

It is apparant that neither heaven nor hell is real to you. Unless you receive Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, you will go to hell.

You say that you want to go to hell, but once you get there, it will be eternal torment.

Swallow your pride, ask God to forgive you for your sins, and receive Jesus Christ as your personal saviour.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

[Ace42]

It is apparant that neither heaven nor hell is real to you. Unless you receive Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, you will go to hell.

Unless you are wrong. And so far, you have been wrong about so many many things. What are the odds of you being right about the one thing that can't be physically disproved?

Slim to none.

You are a dumbass, you do not know what you are talking about. It is abudnantly apparent that you are an ignoramous. Now, given the fact that you are always ALWAYS wrong, what makes you so certain about this?

[Funkaloyd]

It's a shame that he won't actually know that he's wrong, ever. Nor will we be able to say "told you so."

[yeahwho]

It's a shame that he won't actually know that he's wrong, ever. Nor will we be able to say "told you so."

George Bush in a nutshell.

[racer5.0stang]

Unless you are wrong. And so far, you have been wrong about so many many things. What are the odds of you being right about the one thing that can't be physically disproved?

Slim to none.

You are a dumbass, you do not know what you are talking about. It is abudnantly apparent that you are an ignoramous. Now, given the fact that you are always ALWAYS wrong, what makes you so certain about this?

I'd like to know what I have been wrong about.

[infidel]

Unless you receive Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, you will go to hell.
Along with the approximately 4 billion people on the planet who have never heard of jesus and probably live a much more moral life than you?
Do have to be a republican also or is that coming in the new King George Bush Bible version next year?

[racer5.0stang]

Along with the approximately 4 billion people on the planet who have never heard of jesus and probably live a much more moral life than you?
Do have to be a republican also or is that coming in the new King George Bush Bible version next year?

Thats pretty funny. I enjoy seeing a liberal judge me from a moral stand point.

Maybe you should get saved and become a missionary and help spread the gospel.

[ASsman]

But wait? Don't all religions consider themselves the "correct" one. Else we would all be wrong?. Also incase you never saw that South Park episode, the one where everyone asks what the "right" answer was. Satan said "Mormons, the correct answer was Mormons". So really everyone else is going to hell.

Also.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[racer5.0stang]

But wait? Don't all religions consider themselves the "correct" one. Else we would all be wrong?. Also incase you never saw that South Park episode, the one where everyone asks what the "right" answer was. Satan said "Mormons, the correct answer was Mormons". So really everyone else is going to hell.

Also.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think you need to get right with God. The fact that you are quoting an episode of South Park is disterbing. Get a Bible and read it, then you will find out what religion is the truth.

Mormons "wear" their salvation. Salvation is the saving of your soul, so how can man-made clothes represent your salvation?

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

[yeahwho]

I think you need to get right with God. The fact that you are quoting an episode of South Park is disterbing. Get a Bible and read it, then you will find out what religion is the truth.

Mormons "wear" their salvation. Salvation is the saving of your soul, so how can man-made clothes represent your salvation?

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

I really don't think anybody is judging you as harshly as you are judging them.
Your saying everybody here will go to hell if we do not share your faith.

Sanctimonious and all puffed up on a Sunday morning. God did not me the answers like he gave them to you. You are the anti-ad for Christianity. The reason millions turn their backs on Church. Yet you go on and point your fingers at everybody else and tell them they are living life wrong.

Jesus would be ashamed of your lack of forgiveness and humility.

[ASsman]

I think you need to get right with God. The fact that you are quoting an episode of South Park is disterbing. Get a Bible and read it, then you will find out what religion is the truth.

Mormons "wear" their salvation. Salvation is the saving of your soul, so how can man-made clothes represent your salvation?

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Uh, we all wear clothes. WTF are you talking about.

Thou shalt speak in English, bitch.

[racer5.0stang]

Uh, we all wear clothes. WTF are you talking about.

Thou shalt speak in English, bitch.

Didn't South Park explain anything to you about their "correct" religion?

[racer5.0stang]

I really don't think anybody is judging you as harshly as you are judging them.
Your saying everybody here will go to hell if we do not share your faith.

Sanctimonious and all puffed up on a Sunday morning. God did not me the answers like he gave them to you. You are the anti-ad for Christianity. The reason millions turn their backs on Church. Yet you go on and point your fingers at everybody else and tell them they are living life wrong.

Jesus would be ashamed of your lack of forgiveness and humility.

I am just stating what it says in the Bible, nothing more. People turn their back on the church because it sets the standard and they do not want to hear that. People want to hear all the good stuff, but when it comes the truth, they get mad and leave.

Hey I encourage you to get in the Bible, prove me wrong.

Don't you think Jesus would be ashamed of you for your disbelief?

[yeahwho]

I am just stating what it says in the Bible, nothing more. People turn their back on the church because it sets the standard and they do not want to hear that. People want to hear all the good stuff, but when it comes the truth, they get mad and leave.

Hey I encourage you to get in the Bible, prove me wrong.

Don't you think Jesus would be ashamed of you for your disbelief?

1. Good Stuff? The standard? Truth?

2. Read the Bible, like I haven't and don't continue too?

3. The only one ashamed of my disbelief is you (because you think it should be an identakit to your own), Jesus Loves Me.

[infidel]

I think you need to get right with God. The fact that you are quoting an episode of South Park is disterbing. Get a Bible and read it, then you will find out what religion is the truth.

Whose to say South Park isn't closer to the truth than the Bible?
At least we know who, when and where South Park was written whereas the Bible is mostly a guess that has been altered who knows now many times to suit a particular agenda.

[racer5.0stang]

Whose to say South Park isn't closer to the truth than the Bible?
At least we know who, when and where South Park was written whereas the Bible is mostly a guess that has been altered who knows now many times to suit a particular agenda.

You are braver than I, in that you would trust your soul with a cartoon.

[yeahwho]

You are braver than I, in that you would trust your soul with a cartoon.

You know what racer5.0stang, I just don't think you like the Beastie Boys. That is why your here, to spread the word, not be a fan or a buddy, just pontificate on how we should join your church. This is the Beastie Boys site. Not the save me from eternal damnation site. hint.

[racer5.0stang]

You know what racer5.0stang, I just don't think you like the Beastie Boys. That is why your here, to spread the word, not be a fan or a buddy, just pontificate on how we should join your church. This is the Beastie Boys site. Not the save me from eternal damnation site. hint.

How many eternal damnation sites do you go to? Probably none. I haven't been on one either.

Matthew 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

[Ace42]

Matthew 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

And yet, racer stang, you are not in Iraq converting Muslims.

[racer5.0stang]

And yet, racer stang, you are not in Iraq converting Muslims.

Does this mean you don't enjoy my company?

[Ace42]

(puts finger on his nose)

You got it.

[racer5.0stang]

(puts finger on his nose)

You got it.

Hey would it be possible to start one thread and stay in that one thread, or should we continue our discussion in 3 or 4 different ones?

[Jasonik]

Well if you didn't turn every discussion into a theological sparring match.

The topic of religion DOES have some relevance to this topic though; "Religion is the opium of the masses." - K. Marx.

Since science has weakened the hold of religion on the public and the prevalence of a secular humanist progressive tone in public education and popular culture, 'the powers that be' rely ever more on medications and drugs (as well as mass media) to be the opium of today.

[Whois]

Well if you didn't turn every discussion into a theological sparring match.

The topic of religion DOES have some relevance to this topic though; "Religion is the opium of the masses." - K. Marx.

Since science has weakened the hold of religion on the public and the prevalence of a secular humanist progressive tone in public education and popular culture, 'the powers that be' rely ever more on medications and drugs (as well as mass media) to be the opium of today.

Don't forget tv...or does that fall under drugs?

"Don't worry, we have everything under control. Now go turn on your tv and watch..."

[Jasonik]

Don't forget tv...or does that fall under drugs?
That falls under mass media, RETARD!

[Qdrop]

You know what racer5.0stang, I just don't think you like the Beastie Boys. That is why your here, to spread the word, not be a fan or a buddy, just pontificate on how we should join your church.


no shit.....

He is part of a christian movement that's been gaining quite a bit of ground lately......
internet preaching.
bible thumpers like racer are instructed/encouraged to go pick and sign up on random message boards across the internet and just preach there asses off.....trying to "save" (read as convert) anyone they can.

it's selfish, and rude.

[ChrisLove]

Unless you receive Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, you will go to hell.


So if God made me, why did he make me a logical and rational person incapable of believing in him - thats a bit unfair isnt it? Its not like I am sitting here going 'hehehe I'm just going to ignore God and sin all over the place cos I dont care if I go to hell' - I have made a rational and informed decision using the tools with which I am blessed (for want of a better word) that there is no evidence to support the Christain belief system and that blind faith alone is ilogical. If God gave me these tools, he cant really punish me for denying his existence?

That like giving your fishermen hockey sticks and being surprised when they dont catch any fish.

At no point in the creation of my world view did I discount religion to spite anyone or for indeed for any other reason that might be considered wrong - I just followed the clues that are there and they did not point to JC. In fact they point to JC being ficticious IMO.

[Whois]

That falls under mass media, RETARD!

No sarcasm tag...hmm.

Go fuck yourself.

[racer5.0stang]

So if God made me, why did he make me a logical and rational person incapable of believing in him - thats a bit unfair isnt it? Its not like I am sitting here going 'hehehe I'm just going to ignore God and sin all over the place cos I dont care if I go to hell' - I have made a rational and informed decision using the tools with which I am blessed (for want of a better word) that there is no evidence to support the Christain belief system and that blind faith alone is ilogical. If God gave me these tools, he cant really punish me for denying his existence?

That like giving your fishermen hockey sticks and being surprised when they dont catch any fish.

At no point in the creation of my world view did I discount religion to spite anyone or for indeed for any other reason that might be considered wrong - I just followed the clues that are there and they did not point to JC. In fact they point to JC being ficticious IMO.

It is a choice, whether to believe or not. You have obviously chosen. It is free will.

Just read the bible to answer your questions.

[Qdrop]

Just read the bible to answer your questions.

that's an oxymoron.






see, now i'm just part of the problem.

(quote THAT, whois....)

[infidel]

Psalm 2004

Bush is my shepherd, I shall be in want.
He maketh me to lie down on park benches,
He leadeth me beside the still factories
He restoreth my doubts about the Republican Party
He leadeth me onto the paths of unemployment for his cronies' sake

Yea, though no weapons of mass destruction have been found, he
maketh me continue to fear Evil.

His tax cuts for the rich and his deficit spending discomfort me. He
anointest me with never-ending debt. Verily, my days of savings and
assets are kaput.

Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me all the days of his
administration and my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.

[Rosie Cotton]

I think you need to get right with God. The fact that you are quoting an episode of South Park is disterbing. Get a Bible and read it, then you will find out what religion is the truth.

Why don't you get a sense of humor and a dictionary?

Mormons "wear" their salvation. Salvation is the saving of your soul, so how can man-made clothes represent your salvation?

Uh-huh. So that whole Adam-Eve-Tree of Knowledge story was just shit, huh? Because after the whole apple business they felt they needed to hide their nakedness from those pesky squirrels. Perhaps we should all walk around in the nude, since man-made clothing is not going to save us? Party at my place, people!

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Crap, I'm not even going to attempt to argue with you over this. You have proven time and again that you are incapable of playing with others.

[racer5.0stang]

Why don't you get a sense of humor and a dictionary?

Uh-huh. So that whole Adam-Eve-Tree of Knowledge story was just shit, huh? Because after the whole apple business they felt they needed to hide their nakedness from those pesky squirrels. Perhaps we should all walk around in the nude, since man-made clothing is not going to save us? Party at my place, people!

Crap, I'm not even going to attempt to argue with you over this. You have proven time and again that you are incapable of playing with others.

You have totally missed the conversation. A mormon believes that their salvation is in special undergarments that are blessed by their priest or pastor and if they take those clothes off, even to take a shower, then they will lose their salvation. I said nothing a/b going around nude. What I did state is that, it is ignorant to believe that something man-made will provide salvation, which is spiritual and of God.

Further more I have no problem conversing with others. I don't feel that I should hesitate to call someone out for saying something stupid, just like they would not hesitate to do the same to me.

[racer5.0stang]

Psalm 2004

Bush is my shepherd, I shall be in want.
He maketh me to lie down on park benches,
He leadeth me beside the still factories
He restoreth my doubts about the Republican Party
He leadeth me onto the paths of unemployment for his cronies' sake

Yea, though no weapons of mass destruction have been found, he
maketh me continue to fear Evil.

His tax cuts for the rich and his deficit spending discomfort me. He
anointest me with never-ending debt. Verily, my days of savings and
assets are kaput.

Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me all the days of his
administration and my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.

Thats funny. :)