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Ace42
11-18-2004, 05:42 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4019621.stm

AfroKing
11-18-2004, 09:34 PM
Strictly speaking, a hooligan is one who starts fights, brawls and riots. A racist fan - equally despicable - is a different thing altogether.

The problem in Spain is ignorance. They have only recently started enjoying a multi-cultural society. England has had won for ages and ages.

Rosie Cotton
11-18-2004, 09:35 PM
Yeah, Arsenal's shooting down racism.

Gazrock
11-19-2004, 03:32 AM
I also don't find it coincidence that countries with a fascist past still have more racist tendancies. Although every single country in the world has it's racist idiot scumbags.

Also, how many black players have represented Spain, Italy or Germany. You could count them on one hand.
Still, you can't hold an entire nation responsible for a few thousand idiots.

Ace42
11-19-2004, 07:29 AM
Strictly speaking, a hooligan is one who starts fights, brawls and riots. A racist fan - equally despicable - is a different thing altogether.

Racism and football violence are inextricably linked. Take the Turkish team knifings - that is as much about obscure ethnic rivalries as about football. Ditto with Rangers vs Celtic fans. (Although religious, not technically ethnic, it is pretty much synonymous AFAIK. The "Gaelic heritage" issue is significant, and that is ethnic).

But I certainly take your point on board.

ASsman
11-19-2004, 07:31 AM
It's less here, because black people are so good at American Football....

Ace42
11-19-2004, 07:35 AM
And basketball, prompting the racially-significant topic of the film "White men can't jump" - something that as a wheel-chair bound white person, I found highly offensive.

ASsman
11-19-2004, 07:37 AM
The negros with the hockey... not so good. Even though many of them did run to Canada.

Qdrop
11-19-2004, 08:19 AM
- something that as a wheel-chair bound white person, I found highly offensive.

now is see where the hostility comes from......

that explains much.........

Qdrop
11-19-2004, 08:20 AM
It's less here, because black people are so good at American Football....

what kind of comment is that?

Qdrop
11-19-2004, 08:21 AM
The negros with the hockey... not so good. Even though many of them did run to Canada.

and again?

i thought you loathed redneck hick mentality?

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 08:23 AM
and again?

i thought you loathed redneck hick mentality?


What's Next? "Look At That Monkey Run!!!" :D

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 12:11 PM
Jeeze! Ace can't even play video games without bitchin'......

"And I'm like FFS, I have just hit every single one of them with a PH! You could kill the entire team with on MP3 clip!!! SO WHY ARE YOU REFUSING TO LISTEN TO MY SAGE ADVICE AND ACTING LIKE YOU ARE GOD'S GIFT TO THE TEAM, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN FIRE WILDLY WITH AN M4?!?"

yes, that's him.
even uses the same Avatar.



I knew you were a gamer, Ace, when you said "nades".

That's O.K.
Half-life OZDM is my game..


Cuz yep, It's Fun to kill people!
.
:D

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 12:13 PM
How to Ignore the Ignore List ;)

Now can't we all just get along?.

D_Raay
11-19-2004, 01:25 PM
Hey Qdrop, making light or fun of someone's physical drawbacks is despicable and shameful... You wouldn't be so callous with your remarks if you were stricken with the same affliction..

Qdrop
11-19-2004, 02:01 PM
Hey Qdrop, making light or fun of someone's physical drawbacks is despicable and shameful... You wouldn't be so callous with your remarks if you were stricken with the same affliction..

i'm not making light.
it's an eye opener........
it shows me where HIS callous bitter nature comes from....and why he puts such extrodinary effort into coming off as an intellectual elitist. he's compensating.
he has a chip on his shoulder.


i would probably act the same.

but everyone is supposed to just "look the other way"...

if an elephant is in the room.....i'll call it out.....even if it isn't PC.

ASsman
11-19-2004, 04:46 PM
Jeeze! Ace can't even play video games without bitchin'......

"And I'm like FFS, I have just hit every single one of them with a PH! You could kill the entire team with on MP3 clip!!! SO WHY ARE YOU REFUSING TO LISTEN TO MY SAGE ADVICE AND ACTING LIKE YOU ARE GOD'S GIFT TO THE TEAM, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN FIRE WILDLY WITH AN M4?!?"

yes, that's him.
even uses the same Avatar.



I knew you were a gamer, Ace, when you said "nades".

That's O.K.
Half-life OZDM is my game..


Cuz yep, It's Fun to kill people!

Where is this from? And since when does Ace play Half-Life mods?Also stop quoting idiots like Qdrop, por favor.

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 05:23 PM
Where is this from? And since when does Ace play Half-Life mods?Also stop quoting idiots like Qdrop, por favor.


Ace doesn't play Half-life Mods. He plays different games.

I play Half-life Mods.


Read Closer.

It's all inside Ace's quote to get around Ignore! ;)
So, unless you Ignore everyone,......

From now on I wont quote anyone unless I am replying directly to them,Deal?

Ace plays Online games with other people; That's where I got the part in quotes from.



I'm not here to start fights or stir up shit; Sure, I make inflamatory comments, but I'm here to get BOTH sides of politics. (sure,there's more sides than 2, but the Big 2.)

If you must put me on IGNORE, so be it.
I'm not gonna beg.

ASsman
11-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Ace plays Online games with other people; That's where I got the part in quotes from.
I thought you were using them as ACTUAL quotes. Not something you made up.

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 05:45 PM
And playing Half-life Mods, or any other online game, does not mean your an idiot.

That shit's just fun!

ASsman
11-19-2004, 05:45 PM
Never said they did.

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 05:46 PM
I thought you were using them as ACTUAL quotes. Not something you made up.


The part in quotes IS an actual quote from Ace; Just not from THIS board.

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 05:48 PM
you may say"How do you know it's Ace?"


Uhhh, same Dragonball Z Avatar, For one.
Same name(Ace42)


Need more?


Not that I'm going anywhere with this other than He's like this Everywhere....

ASsman
11-19-2004, 05:58 PM
I would like the name of the board.... If you don't mind. Not that it sounds unlike him, just seems to be taken out of context.

Ace42
11-19-2004, 06:10 PM
Wow, someone found some of my old TO postings. That must be like, two, three years old. I don't know whether to be touched, or slightly freaked.

Either way, it is a little bit sad that someone felt the need to hunt down another forum I was on. I'd say "if you had asked, I would've given you some better quotes" - but, what with him being on ignore (well, he did ask almost nicely) someone would have to quote it, so I might well've missed it.

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 09:02 PM
Wow, someone found some of my old TO postings. That must be like, two, three years old. I don't know whether to be touched, or slightly freaked.



All I did was Google "Ace42" I didn't hire a PI or anything....

Can we truce here?

Really...

and I looked it up because I wanted to understand. (Sorry, Psych Major.)

Not because i'm a Stalker.......really.......
:o

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 10:37 PM
I would like the name of the board.... If you don't mind. Not that it sounds unlike him, just seems to be taken out of context.


http://forum.frag-ops.com/viewtopic.php?p=55817&sid=a570b3ac84e63e3205cb13699fb71691

do you own legwork! Jeeze!


(Scroll Down To See....)



P.S. Drop It Already.....


P.S.S. This is from a different board....

drobertson420
11-19-2004, 10:44 PM
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It's labled DTB-alcatraz.

I am no expert, but I assume the DTB stands for DownTown Bank...

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Yea, That's from like 3 years ago...... ;)

Shinjuku
11-20-2004, 01:26 PM
well , i think you can get your ass kicked by all sorts of fottball fans.... i think germans as equal dangerous than uk hoolis.... and what about italo.hoolis.... they can hit ya pretty hard... an portuguise... mmh.. some of them are strong... well .. i think.. there are a lot of hoos... not exclusivly in the uk

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GreenFairy
11-21-2004, 01:58 PM
well , i think you can get your ass kicked by all sorts of fottball fans.... i think germans as equal dangerous than uk hoolis.... and what about italo.hoolis.... they can hit ya pretty hard... an portuguise... mmh.. some of them are strong... well .. i think.. there are a lot of hoos... not exclusivly in the uk

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It's true. In Italy we have many supporters as hooligans. They are violents and frequently they have extremes political opininos...

discopants
11-22-2004, 04:22 AM
I think that Louis Aragones was just in a bad mood because his KKK hat went pink in the wash.

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 04:31 AM
It's less here, because black people are so good at American Football....

You're making some kind of joke right? I'm sure you aren't saying that all Black people are so good at American football, just wondering, please clarify

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 04:32 AM
And basketball, prompting the racially-significant topic of the film "White men can't jump" - something that as a wheel-chair bound white person, I found highly offensive.

And YOU are saying that Black people are good at basketball...??? Clarify.

I hope you guys are just fucking around.

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 07:41 AM
i'm not making light.
it's an eye opener........
it shows me where HIS callous bitter nature comes from....and why he puts such extrodinary effort into coming off as an intellectual elitist. he's compensating.
he has a chip on his shoulder.


i would probably act the same.

but everyone is supposed to just "look the other way"...

if an elephant is in the room.....i'll call it out.....even if it isn't PC.

That makes absolute sense.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 08:03 AM
That makes absolute sense.

why not?

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 08:04 AM
why not?

It makes 100% perfect sense to me. I couldn't agree more.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 08:17 AM
It makes 100% perfect sense to me. I couldn't agree more.


sorry man....i missread your post.
thought you wrote "it made NO sense".

My bad.
thanks for agreeing btw.

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 08:22 AM
sorry man....i missread your post.
thought you wrote "it made NO sense".

My bad.
thanks for agreeing btw.

:)
It's all good (y)

Ace42
11-22-2004, 08:30 AM
And YOU are saying that Black people are good at basketball...??? Clarify.

I hope you guys are just fucking around.

I was just fucking around, and no, I am not in a wheelchair before you ask.

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 08:31 AM
I was just fucking around, and no, I am not in a wheelchair before you ask.

Well thanks for clearing that up there.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 08:32 AM
I was just fucking around, and no, I am not in a wheelchair before you ask.

well, there goes my theory.....

i guess Ace is just a plane old fucking asshole....

drobertson420
11-22-2004, 08:36 AM
Pretty Fuckin'Funny....http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=583068&postcount=7

Shouldn't joke about that.

Just saying......

Oh wait, I'm on your LIST :p

Tone Capone
11-22-2004, 08:38 AM
well, there goes my theory.....

i guess Ace is just a plane old fucking asshole....

that pretty much sums it up.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 08:45 AM
yeah, ace.....

it's real funny to joke about being a racist bigot.... and being in a wheelchair.

very classy on your part.

but you can't read this either.

Ali
11-22-2004, 08:49 AM
sorry man....i missread your post.
thought you wrote "it made NO sense".

My bad.
thanks for agreeing btw. How the hell can you mis-read "That makes absolute sense" to say what you think it did?

You work for the government, don't you? :D

Ali
11-22-2004, 08:52 AM
I was just fucking around, and no, I am not in a wheelchair before you ask.

You just crossed a line.

drobertson420
11-22-2004, 08:54 AM
yeah, ace.....

it's real funny to joke about being a racist bigot.... and being in a wheelchair.

very classy on your part.

but you can't read this either.


Damn! And your theory was Brilliant!

Oh Well....

Ace42
11-22-2004, 08:58 AM
Out of 17 posts in this page, I can read 2 of them, one of them being mine.

drobertson420
11-22-2004, 08:58 AM
Back on Subject.....
The U.S. has Basketball Hooligans!! ;)

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 08:59 AM
How the hell can you mis-read "That makes absolute sense" to say what you think it did?

You work for the government, don't you? :D

dude, i'm working on 2 hours of sleep......i'm amazed i can type right now.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 09:00 AM
Out of 17 posts in this page, I can read 2 of them, one of them being mine.


hey, don't blame us......you're the fucking coward.

wait, you can't read this..... :rolleyes:

Ali
11-22-2004, 09:00 AM
Out of 17 posts in this page, I can read 2 of them, one of them being mine. What a lonely little chap you must be, in your wheelchair, playing online games and chatting on message boards all day. No friends online, or offline.

Ali
11-22-2004, 09:02 AM
dude, i'm working on 2 hours of sleep......i'm amazed i can type right now. one word "metamphetamine"

who needs sleep!

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 09:02 AM
What a lonely little chap you must be, in your wheelchair, playing online games and chatting on message boards all day. No friends online, or offline.

HA!....i just choked on my orange juice......
nice......

drobertson420
11-22-2004, 09:04 AM
Out of 17 posts in this page, I can read 2 of them, one of them being mine.



drobertson420: I Weep For You......

racer5.0stang
11-22-2004, 09:07 AM
Out of 17 posts in this page, I can read 2 of them, one of them being mine.

You have that many people on ignore?

Ace42
11-22-2004, 09:08 AM
5 people is hardly "that many."

And if Sisko were here, that would be a good way towards a "full house" of morons.

racer5.0stang
11-22-2004, 09:17 AM
5 people is hardly "that many."

And if Sisko were here, that would be a good way towards a "full house" of morons.

I must say even though we don't agree on many things, I do enjoy your sense of humor.

Ace42
11-22-2004, 09:21 AM
Also, being able to see what I am missing out on this page better than I can, you can tell me if me having the boobs on ignore means I have really missed out on anything of substance.

I'd wager that not only is it totally offtopic, but also incredibly insipid and pointless, and full of recrimination and ... "Bitterness" as Capone would put it.

How far off the mark am I, eh?

racer5.0stang
11-22-2004, 09:27 AM
Also, being able to see what I am missing out on this page better than I can, you can tell me if me having the boobs on ignore means I have really missed out on anything of substance.

I'd wager that not only is it totally offtopic, but also incredibly insipid and pointless, and full of recrimination and ... "Bitterness" as Capone would put it.

How far off the mark am I, eh?


Well I guess you know how much Q-tip enjoys talking with (about) you. But to answer your question, I would say you are getting warm.

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 09:27 AM
Ace is fantastic human being and speaks the truth.....
a real "champion of the people".....

if only he could read this.
*sniff*

Qdrop
11-22-2004, 09:28 AM
Well I guess you know how much Q-tip enjoys talking with (about) you.

eh tu, brutas?

drobertson420
11-22-2004, 09:49 AM
since he can't see us, we can talk a bunch of smack about him....

or not..

I now look at Ace42 the same way I look at CBS.....

Can I really believe anything he says ever again?

Whatever....

Rosie Cotton
11-23-2004, 10:06 PM
It ain't just Spain:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayArticle.jhtml?_DARGS=/core/SecureLoginFrag.jhtml.1

Whither the morons now?
By Sue Mott (Filed: 23/11/2004)

The moral high ground is the most treacherous of slopes. Having taken the vilification of Spain to the point where some people were renouncing Rioja or cancelling holidays on the Costa Brava, it now transpires we might have a small version of the racist problem ourselves.

Well, we knew that. If, as the black Birmingham player Dwight Yorke has alleged, he was the victim of Blackburn fans deriding him with monkey noises on Sunday, it will be one more shame to be added to the Everest of disgust following the racist taunting of black England players in Madrid last week.

It might just involve two ignorant oafs instead of half-a-stadium, but it is still a base and dispiriting copy-cat act. The irony stems from their choice of mockery: monkey hoots stemming from thick-skulled morons who cannot aspire to the brains of an orangutang between them.

Rosie Cotton
11-23-2004, 11:45 PM
I really could care less if Blackburn is relegated from the Premiership. They're a shitty team anyway, and they've got a few racist fans. I will be perfectly happy if they go to the Champions league next season. Leave the EPL so a GOOD team can stay.

chromium05
11-24-2004, 02:45 AM
Just to clarify Rosie.....the division down from the Premiership is now called the Championship. ( Why do the FA insist on fucking around with stupid names??? )

The Champions League is the European club competition.
:)

Rosie Cotton
11-24-2004, 02:51 AM
Just to clarify Rosie.....the division down from the Premiership is now called the Championship. ( Why do the FA insist on fucking around with stupid names??? )

The Champions League is the European club competition.
:)

Thanks.

Blackburn are still ass monkeys, though.

drobertson420
11-25-2004, 09:27 PM
Also, being able to see what I am missing out on this page better than I can, you can tell me if me having the boobs on ignore means I have really missed out on anything of substance.

I'd wager that not only is it totally offtopic, but also incredibly insipid and pointless, and full of recrimination and ... "Bitterness" as Capone would put it.

How far off the mark am I, eh?
Pretty f**king far.

we were discusiing what a POS you are for the Wheelchair Thing;
(at least earlier)

"...unless he's lying, i think he's stuck in a wheelchair."

Now, Kindly Remove That Signature, ACE (n)



When you lie here, you disrespect other serious posters.