Fellowship Baptist Creation Science Fair 2001

[ASsman]

OXYMORON TO THE MAX!
Racer.05 (something something)... just a moron.

As a Creation Scientist, one of my greatest duties that I take great pleasure in is introducing the works of the Lord to the young generation. The sparkle of wonderment that fills their eyes in knowing the creative power of God fills my heart with the Lord's divine Love. It however saddens me greatly that the proponents of Evolutionism have corrupted this true purpose of science and are instead using it as a propaganda tool to spread Secularism. But what is education for if not to fight against ignorance such as that? Our children are the future face of Science and we must teach them to recognize the truth of the Word of the Lord so as to break the cycle of Evolutionism dogma that is paralyzing scientific development and making higher education a dumping ground for the excesses of materialistic philosophies.

To that end, the Fellowship Baptist Creation Science Fair was started. Its purpose is to get kids excited about Creation and motivate them to discover the truth of our Lord on their own. The Creation Science Fair is held annually and is open to homeschoolers and students from area Christian schools grades 1 through 12.





http://objective.jesussave.us/creationsciencefair.html

[Rosie Cotton]

Our children are the future face of Science and we must teach them to recognize the truth of the Word of the Lord so as to break the cycle of Evolutionism dogma that is paralyzing scientific development and making higher education a dumping ground for the excesses of materialistic philosophies.

"Dogma" is a religious phrase; so how can evolutionism be secular and dogmatic at the same time?

[infidel]

The winners give me great faith in the future of science in a world that is rapidly spinning out of control

1st Place: "Using Prayer To Microevolve Latent Antibiotic Resistance In Bacteria"
2nd Place: "Women Were Designed For Homemaking"

Jonathan Goode (grade 7) applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

[Rosie Cotton]

and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

Wow, the marvels of science! Let's just believe a book written nearly two millenia ago. There's no way the men that wrote it could have been lying!

[D_Raay]

Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck.

[racer5.0stang]

1st Place: "Life Doesn't Come From Non-Life"
Patricia Lewis (grade 8) did an experiment to see if life can evolve from non-life. Patricia placed all the non-living ingredients of life - carbon (a charcoal briquet), purified water, and assorted minerals (a multi-vitamin) - into a sealed glass jar. The jar was left undisturbed, being exposed only to sunlight, for three weeks. (Patricia also prayed to God not to do anything miraculous during the course of the experiment, so as not to disqualify the findings.) No life evolved. This shows that life cannot come from non-life through natural processes.

Isn't amazing that a middle school kid gets it (the truth) and adults can not seem to grasp it.

I guess your argument would be that the experiment was only for 3 weeks as apposed to 3 million years. The results are the same.

Colossians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

[Ace42]

Isn't amazing that a middle school kid gets it (the truth) and adults can not seem to grasp it.

I guess your argument would be that the experiment was only for 3 weeks as apposed to 3 million years. The results are the same.

See, this just makes you look like a dumbass. No-one believes a lump of coal will spontaneously become an organism, no matter how long it is left.

What I find amazing is that a supposedly grown man is making the same logic-errors as a middle school kid.

[racer5.0stang]

See, this just makes you look like a dumbass. No-one believes a lump of coal will spontaneously become an organism, no matter how long it is left.

What I find amazing is that a supposedly grown man is making the same logic-errors as a middle school kid.

The fact that you have resorted to name calling brings out your immaturity and ignorance. If you had read the experiment you would have realized that the coal represented carbon.

But hey if you want to believe that you came from a monkey that is your opinion, and I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it is right or wrong.

[ASsman]

1st Place: "Life Doesn't Come From Non-Life"
Patricia Lewis (grade 8) did an experiment to see if life can evolve from non-life. Patricia placed all the non-living ingredients of life - carbon (a charcoal briquet), purified water, and assorted minerals (a multi-vitamin) - into a sealed glass jar. The jar was left undisturbed, being exposed only to sunlight, for three weeks. (Patricia also prayed to God not to do anything miraculous during the course of the experiment, so as not to disqualify the findings.) No life evolved. This shows that life cannot come from non-life through natural processes.

Isn't amazing that a middle school kid gets it (the truth) and adults can not seem to grasp it.

I guess your argument would be that the experiment was only for 3 weeks as apposed to 3 million years. The results are the same.

Colossians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


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[ASsman]

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[ASsman]

But hey if you want to believe that you came from a monkey that is your opinion, and I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it is right or wrong.
It's a theory.

the·o·ry Audio pronunciation of "THeory" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, thîr)
n. pl. the·o·ries

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.

Moron.


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[ASsman]

re·li·gion Audio pronunciation of "religion" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

1.
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.



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[racer5.0stang]

It's a theory.

the·o·ry Audio pronunciation of "THeory" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, thîr)
n. pl. the·o·ries

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.

Moron.


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Hey sounds like Evolution.

Humans are monkeys with the opposable thumb, increased intelligence, and the ability to reason and walk up right.

And in case you can't see it, I was being sarcastic with the comparison of a human to a monkey.

[Ace42]

The fact that you have resorted to name calling brings out your immaturity and ignorance. If you had read the experiment you would have realized that the coal represented carbon.

But hey if you want to believe that you came from a monkey that is your opinion, and I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it is right or wrong.

"represented carbon" - FFS, and you think that is scientific? Carbon comes in a variety of forms. Graphite and Diamond are both (relatively) pure carbon. Can you cut glass with a pencil? Can you write with a diamond? No.

You can't have something that "represents" in an experiment. That would be like trying to prove the earth is flat by saying "this ball represents the earth, and this raisin represents a person. Look, the raisin falls off the ball!"

The fact that you can't understand these very very simple distinctions explains why you have such a simplistic and inconsistant belief structure.

It is because you are mentally sub-normal. This explains why you think scientific fact is "opinion" and your opinion is fact.

And I have resorted to "name calling" because you are incapable of understanding anything else. You have shown this to be the case.

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being, and I think it is an insult to God and christians everywhere that you try and use His name to support a load of unsupported drivel. You think God, who created all of the world and the processes in it will be proud of you for refusing the accept facts right in front of your eyes? You think you'll get into heaven for just blindly accepting someone you got told? I'll laugh my ass off if St Peter sees you and says "well, it says you did everything by the book. But because you didn't understand it, or anything, it doesn't count because you didn't really MEAN it."

I can just see it now "Hey, we have humanity's best and brightest here. You think they want to mix with a dumb fuck who just parrotted words he didn't understand at people who actually knew what they were talking about? Heh, enjoy the lake of fire, fucker!"

Just like that. And because of your stubborn ignorance, you will never know until it is too late to do a damn thing about it.

"I am the lord God who created the universe and its many wonders. You are an opinionated troll who decided to make up his own dream-world and ignore the many wonders I laid out before you. Then you had the arrogance to say it is what I *meant* to say. Putting words in the mouth of God is the sin of Blasphemy, and you are going to hell, Racer Stang!"

hahahaha... Enjoy it.

Also:

Humans are monkeys with the opposable thumb, increased intelligence, and the ability to reason and walk up right.

All primates have opposable thumbs, and a degree of intelligence. Apes have been scientifically proven to have the ability to "reason" and walk upright.

Also, monkeys are different to apes, different genus. All the primates around are thought to have evolved from a common homonid ancestor, not us from them.

However, I'll let this one slip, as you can't be expected to know anything about science, being an ignorant backward hick.

[racer5.0stang]

"represented carbon" - FFS, and you think that is scientific? Carbon comes in a variety of forms. Graphite and Diamond are both (relatively) pure carbon. Can you cut glass with a pencil? Can you write with a diamond? No.

You can't have something that "represents" in an experiment. That would be like trying to prove the earth is flat by saying "this ball represents the earth, and this raisin represents a person. Look, the raisin falls off the ball!"

The fact that you can't understand these very very simple distinctions explains why you have such a simplistic and inconsistant belief structure.

It is because you are mentally sub-normal. This explains why you think scientific fact is "opinion" and your opinion is fact.

And I have resorted to "name calling" because you are incapable of understanding anything else. You have shown this to be the case.

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being, and I think it is an insult to God and christians everywhere that you try and use His name to support a load of unsupported drivel. You think God, who created all of the world and the processes in it will be proud of you for refusing the accept facts right in front of your eyes? You think you'll get into heaven for just blindly accepting someone you got told? I'll laugh my ass off if St Peter sees you and says "well, it says you did everything by the book. But because you didn't understand it, or anything, it doesn't count because you didn't really MEAN it."

I can just see it now "Hey, we have humanity's best and brightest here. You think they want to mix with a dumb fuck who just parrotted words he didn't understand at people who actually knew what they were talking about? Heh, enjoy the lake of fire, fucker!"

Just like that. And because of your stubborn ignorance, you will never know until it is too late to do a damn thing about it.

"I am the lord God who created the universe and its many wonders. You are an opinionated troll who decided to make up his own dream-world and ignore the many wonders I laid out before you. Then you had the arrogance to say it is what I *meant* to say. Putting words in the mouth of God is the sin of Blasphemy, and you are going to hell, Racer Stang!"

hahahaha... Enjoy it.

Also:



All primates have opposable thumbs, and a degree of intelligence. Apes have been scientifically proven to have the ability to "reason" and walk upright.

Also, monkeys are different to apes, different genus. All the primates around are thought to have evolved from a common homonid ancestor, not us from them.

However, I'll let this one slip, as you can't be expected to know anything about science, being an ignorant backward hick.

It would seem that you think your opinion is fact and everyone else's, including God, is mere opinion.

It is obvious that you are satisfied with yourself being related to apes and spouting words that you read on some scientist's web site.

[Ace42]

It would seem that you think your opinion is fact and everyone else's, including God, is mere opinion.

It is obvious that you are satisfied with yourself being related to apes and spouting words that you read on some scientist's web site.

You don't even know the difference between opinion and fact. Secondly, God doesn't talk to you, never has, never will. So as God is not available for consultation, you assuming you definitively know what He thinks is BLASPHEMY. That's shit that'll send you to hell right there.

And unlike you, my command of the English language is satisfactory. Why don't you read some scientific books and journals, then you might actually seem like you know what you are talking about.

[racer5.0stang]

You don't even know the difference between opinion and fact. Secondly, God doesn't talk to you, never has, never will. So as God is not available for consultation, you assuming you definitively know what He thinks is BLASPHEMY. That's shit that'll send you to hell right there.

And unlike you, my command of the English language is satisfactory. Why don't you read some scientific books and journals, then you might actually seem like you know what you are talking about.

So according to you, prayer does not exist. I never said I knew what God thinks. What I did say is that you think you opinion is absolute fact and truth.

You need to read your Bible if you are going to try and preach from it, and pray that God will give you understanding when you do read it.

[Ace42]

So according to you, prayer does not exist.

Where did I say that? Where did I say anything even REMOTELY like that? How is you praying to God him talking to you? What has God told you, eh?

See, yet again you do not understand clear and simple English. This is why you do not understand science or the bible, you just aren't competent enough.

I never said I knew what God thinks. What I did say is that you think you opinion is absolute fact and truth.

No, I think "fact" is absolute fact. However, you have shown again and again that you can't tell the difference, so you are in no position to be telling anyone about "truth."

You need to read your Bible if you are going to try and preach from it, and pray that God will give you understanding when you do read it.

That is where you've been going wrong. Instead of praying to God to help you understand, why don't you actually engage your brain, do some research, and learn some shit.

"I don't need lessons in how to drive, I prayed to God for understanding, and now I can drive!"

"I don't need to learn how to sew, I prayed to God, and now I can!"

As has been proven here, repeatedly, you don't understand simple English. The Bible is written in complicated English (translated from other languages, but we'll let that slide for now).

As you cannot understand English, you cannot understand the Bible. QED.

Why don't you educate yourself, then read the bible. God helps those who help themselves as the motto goes.

[ASsman]

Tell God to bring me a cold grape crush. Please.

[ASsman]

(C) I was sitting in a restaurant in a Mexican villa
When I saw the Virgin Mary in my (G) tortilla
I (F) cried out ay ay ay ay
I just (C) bit off a piece of her thigh(G)
I saw the Virgin Mary in my (C) tortilla

I saw the Virgin Mary in my tortilla
I scraped off the refried beans so I could see her
I said Virgin Mary you're the boss
You like some more of my hot sauce
I saw the Virgin Mary in my tortilla
This miracle to me was oh so scary
In my panic I went and ate the rest of virgin Mary
I stared down at my empty plate
I cried out Mary you tasted great
I saw the Virgin Mary in my tortilla
I saw the Virgin Mary in my tortilla

Or grilled cheese sandwich.

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[racer5.0stang]

Where did I say that? Where did I say anything even REMOTELY like that? How is you praying to God him talking to you? What has God told you, eh?

See, yet again you do not understand clear and simple English. This is why you do not understand science or the bible, you just aren't competent enough.



No, I think "fact" is absolute fact. However, you have shown again and again that you can't tell the difference, so you are in no position to be telling anyone about "truth."



That is where you've been going wrong. Instead of praying to God to help you understand, why don't you actually engage your brain, do some research, and learn some shit.

"I don't need lessons in how to drive, I prayed to God for understanding, and now I can drive!"

"I don't need to learn how to sew, I prayed to God, and now I can!"

As has been proven here, repeatedly, you don't understand simple English. The Bible is written in complicated English (translated from other languages, but we'll let that slide for now).

As you cannot understand English, you cannot understand the Bible. QED.

Why don't you educate yourself, then read the bible. God helps those who help themselves as the motto goes.

You should pray for forgiveness and salvation.

Facts are not absolute because they can be disproven.

Unlike you, I do not place my faith in the things of this world, but in Jesus Christ.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[ASsman]

Facts are not absolute because they can be disproven.
No I'm pretty sure they can't. Else I wouldn't be a fact, idiot.
You can't say that, it is like saying well you can't say that car is red because it could be blue. Yah it COULD be but it ISN'T.


fact Audio pronunciation of "fact" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkt)
n.

1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2.
1. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
2. A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
3. Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.
3. A thing that has been done, especially a crime: an accessory before the fact.
4. Law. The aspect of a case at law comprising events determined by evidence: The jury made a finding of fact.

Here this is much clearer and illustrates my point.

Etymology: Latin factum deed, real happening, something done, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere to do, make
1 : something that has actual existence : a matter of objective reality
2 : any of the circumstances of a case that exist or are alleged to exist in reality : a thing whose actual occurrence or


Oh and thanks for the quote, if you don't mind I will add it to my signature.

Actually I really don't care if you do mind, because you are a moron.

[ASsman]

Also by saying that "facts" can be disproven, you just shot down your own argument, and every other argument ever made. Including the one about , "Could God heat up a burrito, so hot that he himself couldn't eat it?"

[Ace42]

Unlike you, I do not place my faith in the things of this world, but in Jesus Christ.

And you think that makes you anything other than stupid? The Bible is a thing of this world, written by people in this world, about events that happened in this world.

Aside from the fact that you are lying right there (you put your faith in technology whenever you cross the street, turn on a light bulb, fly in a plane, watch TV, etc, etc) it doesn't strike you as being a little bit dumb in that you refuse to believe things you can actually see and experience, and only believe in things which, by their very nature, cannot be conclusively proven, and which there cannot be the slightest bit of evidence?

As you only have experience of "worldly things" - you, by your own admission, are saying that you will only ever believe in things which you cannot possibly know the first thing about. And yet you go on arguing as if you know your supposition was immutable fact.

Freaking dumbass.

[Tone Capone]

And you think that makes you anything other than stupid? The Bible is a thing of this world, written by people in this world, about events that happened in this world.

Aside from the fact that you are lying right there (you put your faith in technology whenever you cross the street, turn on a light bulb, fly in a plane, watch TV, etc, etc) it doesn't strike you as being a little bit dumb in that you refuse to believe things you can actually see and experience, and only believe in things which, by their very nature, cannot be conclusively proven, and which there cannot be the slightest bit of evidence?

As you only have experience of "worldly things" - you, by your own admission, are saying that you will only ever believe in things which you cannot possibly know the first thing about. And yet you go on arguing as if you know your supposition was immutable fact.

Freaking dumbass.

Wow you are bitter. At least it's all in prospective now though. I was wondering about the comments you made on the other thread about Blacks being good at basketball... were you joking around or making some sort of statement? What's the deal?

[Ace42]

Wow you are bitter. At least it's all in prospective now though.

Perspective.

I was wondering about the comments you made on the other thread about Blacks being good at basketball... were you joking around or making some sort of statement? What's the deal?

I was taking the mick. Don't worry Capone, we are all used to you totally missing the point. Still, I thought we had a brief reprieve from your nonsense.

[Tone Capone]

Still, I thought we had a brief reprieve from your nonsense.

zzzz Who allows you to do your own thinking?

You know more than anyone else that you are a bitter bitter little man.

[Ace42]

Capone, capone, capone. What are we going to do with you? Still carrying on like you got a clue, I see. I guess some people never learn, eh?

Back again to talk codshit, and then go around critising those not handicapped by your obvious mental deficiencies.

It would almost be charming if I didn't have to experience your inane crap first hand.

You, like so many other of the troll posters here, are like a retard kid who is laughing at everyone pulling faces and grimacing, because he has disgusted them by shitting himself at the table.

Keep laughing, Capone, we'll keep grimacing.

[racer5.0stang]

No I'm pretty sure they can't. Else I wouldn't be a fact, idiot.
You can't say that, it is like saying well you can't say that car is red because it could be blue. Yah it COULD be but it ISN'T.


fact Audio pronunciation of "fact" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkt)
n.

1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2.
1. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
2. A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
3. Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.
3. A thing that has been done, especially a crime: an accessory before the fact.
4. Law. The aspect of a case at law comprising events determined by evidence: The jury made a finding of fact.

Here this is much clearer and illustrates my point.

Etymology: Latin factum deed, real happening, something done, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere to do, make
1 : something that has actual existence : a matter of objective reality
2 : any of the circumstances of a case that exist or are alleged to exist in reality : a thing whose actual occurrence or


Oh and thanks for the quote, if you don't mind I will add it to my signature.

Actually I really don't care if you do mind, because you are a moron.

Of course facts can be disproven. People used to think the earth was flat, and in that day that was fact. Now we know that it is, in fact, round. Yet another fact. The fact that you say facts can not be disproven is in fact ignorant.

And no I don't mind if you use that tid bit of info for your sig. but might I recommend this instead:

Psalm 56:4
In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

[Tone Capone]

Capone, capone, capone. What are we going to do with you? Still carrying on like you got a clue, I see. I guess some people never learn, eh?

Back again to talk codshit, and then go around critising those not handicapped by your obvious mental deficiencies.

It would almost be charming if I didn't have to experience your inane crap first hand.

You, like so many other of the troll posters here, are like a retard kid who is laughing at everyone pulling faces and grimacing, because he has disgusted them by shitting himself at the table.

Keep laughing, Capone, we'll keep grimacing.

Your mother should have swallowed you, you sad little man. Get a life.

[Ace42]

And no I don't mind if you use that tid bit of info for your sig. but might I recommend this instead:

Psalm 56:4
In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

Why? It's pretty fucking facile. If you do not fear what flesh can do to you, why don't you sell up, and go to Iraq to try and convert them. Hell you'll prolly get kidnapped, tortured and executed, but you don't fear what flesh can do, yeah? And it would be doing God's work?

Or is this your way of saying that you are secretly masochistic like so many repressed Christians through the ages, and actually kinda like the idea of being subjected to physical pain?

[racer5.0stang]

Why? It's pretty fucking facile. If you do not fear what flesh can do to you, why don't you sell up, and go to Iraq to try and convert them. Hell you'll prolly get kidnapped, tortured and executed, but you don't fear what flesh can do, yeah? And it would be doing God's work?

Or is this your way of saying that you are secretly masochistic like so many repressed Christians through the ages, and actually kinda like the idea of being subjected to physical pain?

If I did that who would you have to debate with?

The point of the verse is that God is in control.

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

[Ace42]

If I did that who would you have to debate with?

Someone worth talking to, perhaps? Someone who actually knows what they are talking about, and how to communicate it effectively. Someone who can actually take what I am saying onboard, process it, and thus have a "debate" rather than just have them spout out ignorant drivel.

The point of the verse is that God is in control.

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

No, the point of the verse is that although God is intangible and often frustrates human endeavour (The tower of babel, any number of 'natural' disasters, etc) it does not mean people should give up on science and learning and just follow blindly.

The point of it is that although you might believe God creates storms, it doesn't mean you should pray instead of making shelter, or turn your back on weather forecasting.

You despise "wisdom" and "instruction" (Both 'worldly' things which you ignore) and that makes you a fool according to that proverb.

[racer5.0stang]

Someone worth talking to, perhaps? Someone who actually knows what they are talking about, and how to communicate it effectively. Someone who can actually take what I am saying onboard, process it, and thus have a "debate" rather than just have them spout out ignorant drivel.



No, the point of the verse is that although God is intangible and often frustrates human endeavour (The tower of babel, any number of 'natural' disasters, etc) it does not mean people should give up on science and learning and just follow blindly.

The point of it is that although you might believe God creates storms, it doesn't mean you should pray instead of making shelter, or turn your back on weather forecasting.

You despise "wisdom" and "instruction" (Both 'worldly' things which you ignore) and that makes you a fool according to that proverb.

Ace you can not read. In order to begin to obtain knowledge, you must first fear the Lord. But if you do not, then you despise wisdom and instruction.

Trust is something you obviousely cannot comprehend. You must trust the Lord everyday, in all aspects in life. The analogy that you used with the stop light, you trust it work properly, in that it will turn green for you and red for everyone else. Well what is to stop a car from running the red light and hitting you as you cross the intersection. Although this happens everyday, you must still trust the Lord to deliver you.

[Ace42]

Ace you can not read. In order to begin to obtain knowledge, you must first fear the Lord. But if you do not, then you despise wisdom and instruction.

You cannot read, it does not say that at all.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Literally:

At the start of knowledge is fear of the lord. However, fools despise wisdom and instruction.

The second sentence fragment could be interpreted as "only fools dispise wisdom and instruction" though, which I think is certainly a more elegant way of expressing it. And makes more sense gramatically.

Your interpretation makes no sense, as "but, fools fear wisdom and intruction" would only be valid if you are taking it to be a rhetorical deviation.

By your argument, the word is used in the same way "Alas!" would be. Not only is that terribly bad grammar, but has no place in a proverb. If it was halfway thropugh a soliloquy, THEN you might have a point.

Well what is to stop a car from running the red light and hitting you as you cross the intersection. Although this happens everyday, you must still trust the Lord to deliver you.

And yet people trust to be delivered, and still get hit, and some peopel don't trust and don't get hit. That means that it DOES NOT HAVE AN EFFECT.

[racer5.0stang]

You cannot read, it does not say that at all.



Literally:

At the start of knowledge is fear of the lord. However, fools despise wisdom and instruction.

The second sentence fragment could be interpreted as "only fools dispise wisdom and instruction" though, which I think is certainly a more elegant way of expressing it. And makes more sense gramatically.

Your interpretation makes no sense, as "but, fools fear wisdom and intruction" would only be valid if you are taking it to be a rhetorical deviation.

By your argument, the word is used in the same way "Alas!" would be. Not only is that terribly bad grammar, but has no place in a proverb. If it was halfway thropugh a soliloquy, THEN you might have a point.



And yet people trust to be delivered, and still get hit, and some peopel don't trust and don't get hit. That means that it DOES NOT HAVE AN EFFECT.

Actually all that means is that God shows mercy. We don't know God's will but we are all subject to it.

[Qdrop]

^ you 2 should just fuck and get it over with.

[ChrisLove]

The winners give me great faith in the future of science in a world that is rapidly spinning out of control

1st Place: "Using Prayer To Microevolve Latent Antibiotic Resistance In Bacteria"
2nd Place: "Women Were Designed For Homemaking"

Jonathan Goode (grade 7) applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

Also note that women have smaller feet so they can stand closer to the sink to do washing up.


Wow I go away for a few months and when I come back I find we have a brand new religious nut. It may be time to dust of the periodical 'Jesus never existed' rant.

[Qdrop]

It may be time to dust of the periodical 'Jesus never existed' rant.

fuck no....

these 2 have been hi-jacking every fucking thread with this shit for the past week....
don't give them anymore ammo.....

[Ace42]

Actually all that means is that God shows mercy. We don't know God's will but we are all subject to it.

See, it doesn't mean that at all. By that argument, everyone who crosses the road is "meant" to die, and that every time they don't, God is having mercy on them.

That is clearly bollocks.

[ASsman]

Uh just because they THOUGHT the earth was flat, they did not prove it beyond a doubt. SO NOT IT WAS NOT AND STILL IS NOT A FACT, moron. Do you not "believe" in the dictionary either? Try using it some time.

[Ace42]

fact Audio pronunciation of "fact" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkt)
n.

1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2.
1. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
2. A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
3. Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.


Notice the last example. "A document laced with mistaken facts"

[racer5.0stang]

fact Audio pronunciation of "fact" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkt)
n.

1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2.
1. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
2. A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
3. Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.


Notice the last example. "A document laced with mistaken facts"

3. Something believed to be true or real

[Ace42]

I wouldn't get a hard-on over that. It means "widely considered."

As in it is widely believed that there is no life on any of Jupiter's moons, despite the fact that there has been no conclusive research.

I doesn't mean that one person believing something to be the case makes it "fact."

[racer5.0stang]

Also note that women have smaller feet so they can stand closer to the sink to do washing up.


Wow I go away for a few months and when I come back I find we have a brand new religious nut. It may be time to dust of the periodical 'Jesus never existed' rant.

sure

[racer5.0stang]

I wouldn't get a hard-on over that. It means "widely considered."

As in it is widely believed that there is no life on any of Jupiter's moons, despite the fact that there has been no conclusive research.

I doesn't mean that one person believing something to be the case makes it "fact."

The entire world, or the ones who pondered it, believed the world was flat, not just one person.

[ChrisLove]

sure

Right Guard for Men

[Ace42]

<rimshot>

[racer5.0stang]

Right Guard for Men

Old Spice

[Qdrop]

stale·mate ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(stlmt)
n.

1. A situation in which further action is blocked; a deadlock.
2. A drawing position in chess in which the king, although not in check, can move only into check and no other piece can move.

tr.v. stale·mat·ed, stale·mat·ing, stale·mates

To bring into a stalemate.

[Qdrop]

stub·born ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(stbrn)
adj. stub·born·er, stub·born·est

1.
a. Unreasonably, often perversely unyielding; bullheaded.
b. Firmly resolved or determined; resolute. See Synonyms at obstinate.

2. Characterized by perseverance; persistent.
3. Difficult to treat or deal with; resistant to treatment or effort: stubborn soil; stubborn stains.

[Qdrop]

point·less ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(pointls)
adj.

1. Lacking meaning; senseless.
2. Ineffectual: pointless attempts to rescue the victims of the raging fire.



*see 2

[Qdrop]

self-in·dul·gence (slfn-dljns)
n.

Excessive indulgence of one's own appetites and desires.

[racer5.0stang]

point·less ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(pointls)
adj.

1. Lacking meaning; senseless.
2. Ineffectual: pointless attempts to rescue the victims of the raging fire.



*see 2

It is nearly impossible to rescue someone from the fire if they do not want to be rescued.

[Schmeltz]

racer, do you believe in the literal truth of the Noachian deluge?

[Qdrop]

It is nearly impossible to rescue someone from the fire if they do not want to be rescued.

indeed.......you included.

[Whois]

Self indulgent asshole - See Qdrop

:D (n)

[Qdrop]

Self indulgent asshole - See Qdrop

:D (n)

yeah....i'm the problem.

[Whois]

yeah....i'm the problem.

Thanks for admitting it...fuckwad.

[Qdrop]

Thanks for admitting it...fuckwad.

my quote in your sig....

wow, you are all up on my jock.








you fuckin love me.
:)

[Whois]

my quote in your sig....

wow, you are all up on my jock.








you fuckin love me.
:)

Wow, you really are a stupid fuck.

[Qdrop]

Wow, you really are a stupid fuck.

wow. hell of a comeback.
very eloquent.

[Qdrop]

hahahahahahaha


aimee rules.


she just sits and laughs at all of our testosterone filled, E-penis debates.

as well she should.

we all should. :D

[Rosie Cotton]

Also note that women have smaller feet so they can stand closer to the sink to do washing up.


Wow I go away for a few months and when I come back I find we have a brand new religious nut. It may be time to dust of the periodical 'Jesus never existed' rant.

Nah, I'm sure he was real...but the son of God? Fuck no.

[ASsman]

Yah this got really shitty ownce it was becoming harder and harder to avoid the stupid shit Qdrop might have said.

[Qdrop]

Yah this got really shitty ownce it was becoming harder and harder to avoid the stupid shit Qdrop might have said.


i cry for you.



stop avoiding.....face the flames, bitch.

[Ali]

Wow you are bitter. At least it's all in prospective now though. I was wondering about the comments you made on the other thread about Blacks being good at basketball... were you joking around or making some sort of statement? What's the deal? Don't be horrible to him, he's in a wheelchair.

[Qdrop]

Don't be horrible to him, he's in a wheelchair.


actually, we found out he was lying about that.

good ol ace.....