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D_Raay
12-06-2004, 12:42 PM
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=7004669
LONDON (Reuters) - British comedian Rowan Atkinson -- creator of the hapless "Mr Bean" -- attacked a planned law outlawing incitement of religious hatred on Monday, saying it would curb free speech and humour.

Atkinson believes the measure now passing through parliament will make religion virtually off-limits to satirists.

It might even, he fears, lead to prosecutions, not only for some of his own sketches but for others like Monty Python's "Life of Brian," which was criticized on its release in 1979 for being anti-Christian.

"Freedom of expression must be protected for artists and entertainers," he said. "We must not accept a bar on the lampooning of religion and religious leaders."

The 49-year-old Atkinson, who rose to fame as the scheming and self-serving "Blackadder" in a lampoon of British history, has joined lawmakers and Christian groups in a campaign against the bill.

At present, British law prohibits attacks on people's color, race or ethnic origin but not their religion. Critics of the plan to include religion believe a new law is not necessary.

"There is an obvious difference between the behavior of racist agitators who can be prosecuted under existing laws and the activities of satirists and writers who may choose to make comedy or criticism of religious belief, practices or leaders..," Atkinson said in a statement.

"It is one of the reasons why we have free speech."

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Even in England, there are nutjobs I see. Not Mr. Bean, the nuts who came up with the bill.

D_Raay
12-06-2004, 12:47 PM
I dont think he is too crazy.

This is the problem with the world today. people take themselves wsy too seriously and it causes such conflict.

People need to shut the fuck up and laugh.
I realized after i submitted that it looked like I was saying Rowan Atkinson was a nutjob, whoops, I meant the people responsible for the bill.

D_Raay
12-06-2004, 12:50 PM
Phew...all my faith in you would have been lost ;)
;)

Ace42
12-06-2004, 01:02 PM
The law is meant to prevent hate-groups like the BNP from targeting, abusing, denigrating, slandering and stirring up racial hatred by trying to use the argument "It is the religion we are against, not their ethnicity" as an excuse.

Something which is a blatant lie, as they are a bunch of xenophobic ignorant racist buffoons looking for any excuse or legitimisation to spread hatred and intollerance.

While Rowan makes a good point, I think he is over-reacting. The law, as I understand it, is to make it an offence to use religion as an attempt to incite hate-crimes. It is to prosecute those who want violence and abuse on the streets perpetrated against people who are "different".

Racial comedy is legal and is common. The US has Richard Pryor for example. However instigating racial violence is not. The UK has programs like "Goodness Gracious Me" which make fun of Anglo-Asian culture as well as more traditional Anglo-caucasian culture.

Making instigating religious violence a crime likewise does not mean that comedy mocking religion should suffer.

D_Raay
12-06-2004, 01:05 PM
The law is meant to prevent hate-groups like the BNP from targeting, abusing, denigrating, slandering and stirring up racial hatred by trying to use the argument "It is the religion we are against, not their ethnicity" as an excuse.

Something which is a blatant lie, as they are a bunch of xenophobic ignorant racist buffoons looking for any excuse or legitimisation to spread hatred and intollerance.

While Rowan makes a good point, I think he is over-reacting. The law, as I understand it, is to make it an offence to use religion as an attempt to incite hate-crimes. It is to prosecute those who want violence and abuse on the streets perpetrated against people who are "different".

Racial comedy is legal and is common. The US has Richard Pryor for example. However instigating racial violence is not. The UK has programs like "Goodness Gracious Me" which make fun of Anglo-Asian culture as well as more traditional Anglo-caucasian culture.

Making instigating religious violence a crime likewise does not mean that comedy mocking religion should suffer.

So, you are saying that even in passing the bill that the comedic endeavors would not suffer as a result? That it would be alright to still make fun of religion?

Ace42
12-06-2004, 01:13 PM
That is not what it was meant for. And the judiciary have the power of discretion. They would not prosecute comedians just because their spiel offended someone. If a comedian's routine incited violence, then it is not unreasonable to expect them to take responsibility for it.

Qdrop
12-06-2004, 03:45 PM
but what does Pee Wee Herman think?.......

D_Raay
12-06-2004, 04:01 PM
but what does Pee Wee Herman think?.......
He thinks about when the newest porno movie is coming out...

Qdrop
12-07-2004, 07:58 AM
He thinks about when the newest porno movie is coming out...

than me and Pee Wee think the same......
(y)

paulk
12-08-2004, 11:30 PM
"Yelling 'FIRE' in a crowded movie theater is not protected speech."

Oh, and buy the PeeWee's Playhouse dvds, bitches.

Funkaloyd
12-09-2004, 03:55 PM
In Russia the government recently used a similar law to shut down an art exhibition (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0719/p06s02-woeu.htm). Do you trust your government to never abuse such a law?

Rosie Cotton
12-12-2004, 01:54 AM
This law doesn't seem bad at face value, but it seems like it could be easily abused. I don't think it will, just saying. Better find a good hiding place for those Monty Python DVDs just in case.

yeahwho
12-12-2004, 01:58 AM
Isn't Mr. Bean that dude with the lips?