and if you don't like it then hey fuck you!

[venusvenus123]

i have already complained to tpk on msn about the tickets i bought from the pre-sale batch on here for the show at wembley, but thought i should air my grievance with the other mods and stop hassling him about it.

tpk informed me that the tickets given out at presale can be really good or really bad, just as they can be if you call up when they go on sale to the general public... it doesn't really make any difference.

so, what is the point of telling us all to rush to a special pre-sale ticket site with a unique link... only to have the same chance of getting shitty tickets that we would have if we just phoned up like anyone else?

anyway, here's what happened:
i went to the link on the second day of the pre-sale tickets, first thing in the morning, as soon as they went on sale. i bought two tickets which i was informed were the best seats available on that day. these tickets placed us right at the top of the arena, directly to the left of the stage. all we could really see were the beasties' heads, and we really couldn't make out what was going on in most of the videos. not to mention the fact that we couldn't appreciate the whole stage layout.

so, finding out that had i waited another day, i would have had a better chance of getting standing tickets, or whatever, doesn't exactly fill me with joy.

[Pootytang]

Dude, this is when you have to do some research to get yourself ready to buy tickets. Get a map of the venue and seating before you purchase you purchase your tickets. Ask questions like, what are my seat numbers and what section are they in. You always want to know were you are going to be seated at before you purchase tickets to such an event.

You cannot blame anyone but yourself for having such crappy seats man. Sorry that you didn't have a good time but do your homework before you attend another concert.

[venusvenus123]

i'm not a dude.

and... er the reason i'm complaining is that they were pre sale tickets. i expected them to be decent. i was led to believe that buying them before they went on sale to the general public would be in my interest.

[Stino]

she shouldn't have done her "homework" as you put it pootytang, the pre-sale service should have done that for her.

[ms.peachy]

Dude, this is when you have to do some research to get yourself ready to buy tickets. Get a map of the venue and seating before you purchase you purchase your tickets. Ask questions like, what are my seat numbers and what section are they in. You always want to know were you are going to be seated at before you purchase tickets to such an event.

You cannot blame anyone but yourself for having such crappy seats man. Sorry that you didn't have a good time but do your homework before you attend another concert.

I do not agree. My situation was kind of similar to venus's (except ultimately I ended up being okay with what I got. I did have the seating plan open in a seperate window and tried to select the seats I wanted. However not once but TWICE when I did that, by the time I got through putting in my card number etc etc, I got a message telling me that that those seats were no longer available. It was very very frustrating and I actually almost gave up. (Glad I didn't, but still - that I had to go through the business of entering my details THREE FRIGGIN TIMES and TWICE lost the seats I was trying to book is just plain bad service.)

I am with venus and Stino on this one - the supposed 'service' is supposed to be there to make it easier for you, not more difficult and disappointing. (Oh- and charge you for being so, as well!)

[sethomas]

she shouldn't have done her "homework" as you put it pootytang, the pre-sale service should have done that for her.

i think its EXTREMELY ironic what you named this thread...hmmmm think bout it.

pre-sales are just that...sales before the regular sales. it says nothing about getting you better seats.


and a girl can mos def be a "dude"....the word doesnt discriminate.

[Pootytang]

You shouldn't be complaining on here about tickets you bought from a 2nd party (such as ticketmaster or what ever you guys/girls use). You should be actually emailing the co. you bought the tickets from.

Sorry if you had such a bad time a the concert, but I encourage anyone that is going to a show to do "homework" before purchasing tickets.

[Documad]

I absolutely hate presales, and I understand your frustation.

My understanding of how Ticketmaster (which has the monopoly on ticket sales in Mpls.) works is that if there is a presale, only certain limited tickets are available during the presale. They aren't necessarily the best seats, but there will be some of the best seats in there. Sometimes the presale sells out and sometimes it just times out. My understanding is that some of the best seats must be left available for the general public whenever those go on sale. Sometimes we have two presales -- one for the "special" people with season tickets to the sporting event at the venue, and one for fans who got a code off a fansite.

I see a whole lot of live shows. Personally, I have never gotten good seats to a rock concert during a presale. I mostly go to smaller venues and they don't do presales, so you can pretty much guarantee fantastic seats if you're on line when they go on sale. But Beck had a presale last go round. I got offered crappy ones during the presale and didn't buy. Then I got pretty good ones during the public sale. This year I twice got good seats at big events by going on line with the general public even after two presales.

I almost never go to shows where standing is an option. I won't do standing except at small clubs where it's the only choice. So Beasties was my first experience in a long time where the computer wanted to give me standing as "best available" when I really wanted the best seating option and needed to select it when trying for tickets. I think that's confusing if you're not used to it.

I ended up getting most of my tickets for this Beastie tour via a broker. I had a difficult time getting off work and had to make most of my travel plans at the last minute.

I'll say this though, as much as I hate Ticketmaster, I usually get great seats in the mail after two minutes on the internet. It beats sleeping outside on the streets in downtown St. Paul, like I used to have to do.

[venusvenus123]

You shouldn't be complaining on here about tickets you bought from a 2nd party (such as ticketmaster or what ever you guys/girls use). You should be actually emailing the co. you bought the tickets from.

i don't think you get what i'm complaing about. i got the link to the special presales tickets from this site. so why would i complain about it to seetickets? and i do normally check my seats before i buy... i have been around for quite a while. but it was indicated that the seats were being sold in order of quality... therefore, being that i was online first thing on day 2 of presales, i assumed they would be fair quality.

i was obviously ill-imformed of the procedure. i have bought tickets from a band site before and i was offered very good seats. so... i guess i assumed this would be the same. otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT OF OFFERING FANS PRESALE TICKETS?? that is my one and only question... and i'm waiting for minton or bb.com to reply.

thanks for the positive feedback, those who understand my frustration, and especially peachy who was actually there ;):)

[Blue Nun]

Basically pre-sales are like the regular ticket sales in that if you buy as soon as they go on sale, you are likely to get good tickets. A presale does not guarantee you better tickets than those that will be available to the general public, it just gives you a chance to make sure you get a ticket before they go on sale to the public.

Pootytang is right, you have to do a bit of research before you buy tickets if you want to assure yourself the best tickets possible. Something you learned the hard way is that a couple days into the presale, it's quite likely you're better off waiting and buying as soon as the regular sale opens. That's what I did for Chicago because there was nothing decent left when I checked the presale. I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience, but it is really not the fault of those here at beastieboys.com.

[timmie]

I totally agree with "Pootytang" you must do your homework!! and find out the layout of Wembly Arena!!....even so, there was plenty of people outside selling standing & seating tickets!! but, Im sorry to hear about your story!!

[ms.peachy]

I totally agree with "Pootytang" you must do your homework!! and find out the layout of Wembly Arena!!....even so, there was plenty of people outside selling standing & seating tickets!! but, Im sorry to hear about your story!!

yes but timmie did you read what I wrote? I had the seating plan - and got burned 3 FUCKING TIMES, mate! That is crap, any way you slice it. Yes I understand it is not the fault of beastieboys.com and frankly I'm not even really complaining for myself, but I really do understand where venus is coming from on this one.

And please, are you really suggesting that the better option is to buy from scalper scum? Seriously?

[timmie]

Scalper scum do have proper tixs!!! they work for bookies who buy in 50/100 tickets at a time!!....hence why people like me & you cannot buy at times because people like them buy them bulk!..I know what your saying & that I fully understand you! we are constantly in a lose - lose situation all the time.

How do you think the box offices feel??? and there is nothing they can do.

But surly enough (on the problem above) they should have block, seat & row numbers on them, obviosly from the first thread there was'nt! so that would make you wonder??....If so, you would call them to clarify what seat!. But that does not justify to click on a link because they sell BAD & GOOD TICKETS!!!!..no box office/ticket master should be selling good or bad tickets they should know better!

[sethomas]

[sethomas]

I totally agree with "Pootytang" you must do your homework!! !!


yo homework sucks. thats why i left college ;)

[minton]

i was obviously ill-imformed of the procedure. i have bought tickets from a band site before and i was offered very good seats. so... i guess i assumed this would be the same. otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT OF OFFERING FANS PRESALE TICKETS?? that is my one and only question... and i'm waiting for minton or bb.com to reply.

thanks for the positive feedback, those who understand my frustration, and especially peachy who was actually there ;):)

I'm not the person to ask about tickets - I can try and find out for you thought from the responsible person. The web team don't organise ticket sales, presales or presale links. We just pass on what we're given.

I've never even bought a Beastie Boys ticket in my life. :)

[timmie]

You lucky person you!!! and welcome back Minton...how was your hols??

[minton]

You lucky person you!!! and welcome back Minton...how was your hols??

Japan was all good. Back to work now unfortunately, but rejoining the tour soon. So there's something to look forward too.

[venusvenus123]

I've never even bought a Beastie Boys ticket in my life. :)
that's because you've spent your entire adulthood working on this board :P

thanks for the reply minton. yeah, if you could just pass on my grievance, that'd be something. cheers. :)

I'm confident that no one here said that seats were being sold in order of quality.
i didn't say that. the page i visited from the link on here said that tickets were being sold in order of quality. i naively assumed that all the tickets sold at presale would be good ones. otherwise -- like i have said about ten times in this thread -- i don't understand the point of it.

but yes, i learned the hard way.