Russia backs Iran

[D_Raay]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4276829.stm

Russian President Vladimir Putin says recent moves by Iran have convinced him it is not trying to build nuclear arms.

He said Moscow would continue working with Tehran in all fields, including nuclear power, adding that he had accepted an invitation to Iran.

His comments came at a meeting in Moscow with chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Hassan Rowhani.

Moscow is helping Iran build a nuclear reactor - a project which has been heavily criticised by the US.

The Americans accuse Iran of seeking nuclear weapons.

Iran denies this, saying its nuclear development programme is purely for peaceful, energy-generating purposes.

Powers are aligning themselves. Iran announced their support of Syria, and now Russia for Iran...

[Whois]

Ya'all shush..Pooty-Poot is my dearest, bestest friend...he done told me so hisself.

:rolleyes:

[Qdrop]

i wonder who would align themselves with the US?
i mean on an official level.......


everyone "hates" us.....but we are the stongest country in the world currently.
it's natural to want to side with the bully too....eh?

[SobaViolence]

the rapture?

[yeahwho]

the rapture?
and the rupture.

That can be the official name of this battle.

[SobaViolence]

you see, choosing sides always leads to bad things...

aliiances, ultimatums, invasions, assassinations....sounds like war, the real kind.

[ASsman]

everyone "hates" us.....but we are the stongest country in the world currently.
it's natural to want to side with the bully too....eh?
Wait 20 years.

The Mujahideen defeated a Superpower, it's obviouly not impossible. And yah, we are so powerful we can't even invade a country properly. Christ.

[checkyourprez]

what is russia thinking?

just dont see what they have to gain by doing that.

[Funkaloyd]

Everything that the US has to gain through conflict with Iran.

[checkyourprez]

Everything that the US has to gain through conflict with Iran.


they stand to loose far greater by fucking with the US. im in no means saying i am for all of the US's foreign policies but i think they stand to loose more than theyd gain.

[infidel]

i wonder who would align themselves with the US?
Poland

I think by aligning themselves with Iran Russia is mostly saying they don't think Iran is out to make nuclear weapons, just like what Iran says.
Same as Saddam when he said Iraq had no WMDs.

Iran has been pursuing non petroleum sources of power for quite some time, they have built over 500 hydroelectric dams in the last 25 years.
It must irk the hell out of the bushtards to see a country with tons of oil developing a more sustainable system instead of burning it all up as fast we do.

[chromium05]

they stand to loose far greater by fucking with the US. im in no means saying i am for all of the US's foreign policies but i think they stand to loose more than theyd gain.

But that is what the US wants the world to think - "Fuck with us and you'll pay dearly". The truth is, the US is rapidly losing credability around the world. We all see daily newsreels of the Iraq situation. The US (and it's allies) are making no real ground over there. As the Mujahadeen defeated Russia in Afghanistan, now the Iraqi's will play a long drawn out game there.

While the world watches this, we also look at how Bush kept the presidency. We also see and hear the lies. We see and hear the fear that the US government relies upon to keep it's own people, and the rest of the world, in check. Regular threats of terrorism keep you scared. They tell you who this weeks terrorists are, you believe them, you are glad when the Gvmnt makes threats to the "terrorists" becasue you think your country has all this power and the terrorists will meekly back down.

Wrong.

The US goverment is basically in it's last throes. It is resorting to whatever it can do to maintain the illusion of it's power. America is about to collapse and none of you will see it becasue of the focus on Terror and War, on new enemies, on new dangers, of people who want to destroy America.

( Just a note here - When we hear this talk of "Destroying America" it seems that the general populace take this to mean all americans will be killed, cities reduced to ruble and powder etc. Again, this is the fear installed by the US Gvmnt. "Destroying America" is more in regard of your Goverment and the way that Internation Bankers (mainly american) control the world finances and instigate war for thier own ends)

Ultimately, it is the leaders of the US who have the most to lose in all of this.

[D_Raay]

But that is what the US wants the world to think - "Fuck with us and you'll pay dearly". The truth is, the US is rapidly losing credability around the world. We all see daily newsreels of the Iraq situation. The US (and it's allies) are making no real ground over there. As the Mujahadeen defeated Russia in Afghanistan, now the Iraqi's will play a long drawn out game there.

While the world watches this, we also look at how Bush kept the presidency. We also see and hear the lies. We see and hear the fear that the US government relies upon to keep it's own people, and the rest of the world, in check. Regular threats of terrorism keep you scared. They tell you who this weeks terrorists are, you believe them, you are glad when the Gvmnt makes threats to the "terrorists" becasue you think your country has all this power and the terrorists will meekly back down.

Wrong.

The US goverment is basically in it's last throes. It is resorting to whatever it can do to maintain the illusion of it's power. America is about to collapse and none of you will see it becasue of the focus on Terror and War, on new enemies, on new dangers, of people who want to destroy America.

( Just a note here - When we hear this talk of "Destroying America" it seems that the general populace take this to mean all americans will be killed, cities reduced to ruble and powder etc. Again, this is the fear installed by the US Gvmnt. "Destroying America" is more in regard of your Goverment and the way that Internation Bankers (mainly american) control the world finances and instigate war for thier own ends)

Ultimately, it is the leaders of the US who have the most to lose in all of this.

Very well said... I kinda hope your wrong but twould seem unlikely that you are..

[Funkaloyd]

it is the leaders of the US who have the most to lose in all of this.

The leaders will never lose shit, that's the problem. If Bush, Putin and Sayyedwhateverthefuckhisnameis stood to lose a hair off of their respective heads, then we'd much more likely see a peaceful solution.

[checkyourprez]

But that is what the US wants the world to think - "Fuck with us and you'll pay dearly". The truth is, the US is rapidly losing credability around the world. We all see daily newsreels of the Iraq situation. The US (and it's allies) are making no real ground over there. As the Mujahadeen defeated Russia in Afghanistan, now the Iraqi's will play a long drawn out game there.

While the world watches this, we also look at how Bush kept the presidency. We also see and hear the lies. We see and hear the fear that the US government relies upon to keep it's own people, and the rest of the world, in check. Regular threats of terrorism keep you scared. They tell you who this weeks terrorists are, you believe them, you are glad when the Gvmnt makes threats to the "terrorists" becasue you think your country has all this power and the terrorists will meekly back down.

Wrong.

The US goverment is basically in it's last throes. It is resorting to whatever it can do to maintain the illusion of it's power. America is about to collapse and none of you will see it becasue of the focus on Terror and War, on new enemies, on new dangers, of people who want to destroy America.

( Just a note here - When we hear this talk of "Destroying America" it seems that the general populace take this to mean all americans will be killed, cities reduced to ruble and powder etc. Again, this is the fear installed by the US Gvmnt. "Destroying America" is more in regard of your Goverment and the way that Internation Bankers (mainly american) control the world finances and instigate war for thier own ends)

Ultimately, it is the leaders of the US who have the most to lose in all of this.


i possibly see this happening but not in our lifetimes.

[ASsman]

We can only hope that it does.

[SobaViolence]

it makes for good tv.

[checkyourprez]

We can only hope that it does.


id rather not. as much as i disagree amd want some stuff to change. just not like that.

[synch]

i wonder who would align themselves with the US?
i mean on an official level.......


everyone "hates" us.....but we are the stongest country in the world currently.
it's natural to want to side with the bully too....eh?
The EU backing Russia/Iran in this case would tip the scale though.

It's like an after school special about the bully that can be stopped.

Heartwarming isn't it?

Incidently, the likes of Blair and Berlusconi would do anything in their power not to let that happen (as would the US), but it would be highly amusing.

[SobaViolence]

I was surprised by this--to think a country actually backs an arab country these days..

wow. yousa racist, billy bob...

[synch]

That's a bit harsh. He said he was happy but surprised.

[ASsman]

id rather not. as much as i disagree amd want some stuff to change. just not like that.
No, there will be teddy bears and flowers when it does. Nothing to worry about here.

[checkyourprez]

No, there will be teddy bears and flowers when it does. Nothing to worry about here.


ahhhh the master of sarcastic dick head remarks returns. excellent.

[DroppinScience]

I was surprised by this--to think a country actually backs an arab country these days.

Ummm... Iran is not an "Arab country." Iranians are Persians.

It's okay, though, nobody knew there was an actual difference. ;)

[racer5.0stang]

Cool, hopefully USA invades Iran, and it all kicks off.

Isaiah
17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.


and the rupture.

That can be the official name of this battle.

I think the name you are looking for is Armageddon.

[Ali]

Iran has been pursuing non petroleum sources of power for quite some time, they have built over 500 hydroelectric dams in the last 25 years.
It must irk the hell out of the bushtards to see a country with tons of oil developing a more sustainable system instead of burning it all up as fast we do. RESPECK!

You got a link for that?

[infidel]

RESPECK!

You got a link for that?Couldn't find the article with all the numbers I originally saw but here's one that states Iran's plan for electric power, including nukes, long before they were at odds with the US. This is from December 1987


http://www.kalabhavanshow.info/world_ref/2of3/ir0109.htm

Here's a link that says there are 85 hydro dams under construction right now in Iran
http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?ArchiveNews=Yes&NewsCode=27921&NewsKind=Culture

Here's one that says 243 are under construction or in the planning phase
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/sep/1062.html

It's pretty obvious to me from reading these articles that Iran isn't interested in electricity from oil, save the oil to sell to the infidels. Nukes have long been part of their plan and would fit in nicely.

[SobaViolence]

Isaiah
17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.


*grabs his world map*
okay, moron, before you get all biblical, can you at least figure what bullshit you are talking and match it to what bullshit we are talking about?

Damascus is in SYRIA. not IRAN. SEE-REE-AH.

[ASsman]

Damn! OWNED YOUR PUNK ASS!

This is like the Rap battles in 8 Mile.

[Funkaloyd]

to think a country actually backs an arab country these days. I'm glad Russia stood up to the US

Don't think for a second that it's out of altruism though. Though Putin often publicly supports the underdog in international disputes (Palestine, Iraq and now this), his policy elsewhere (Chechnya, Georgia) shows the same hypocritical "do as we say, not as we do" attitude that Bush has made himself infamous for.

[Ace42]

And the same casual disregard for civil liberties that might interfere with stregthening the powers of the various military and inteligence agencies,

[racer5.0stang]

*grabs his world map*
okay, moron, before you get all biblical, can you at least figure what bullshit you are talking and match it to what bullshit we are talking about?

Damascus is in SYRIA. not IRAN. SEE-REE-AH.


Well good for you, but I never stated that Damascus was in Iran. You made assumption on your own.

[ASsman]

Well good for you, but I never stated that Damascus was in Iran. You made assumption on your own.
No, you were vauge, so assumption had to be made. Idiot. Nice way of covering your own ass, quoting from the Bible. You can never be wrong, you could interpret it a million ways.

[Ace42]

Well good for you, but I never stated that Damascus was in Iran. You made assumption on your own.

So this once again boils down to you attention-seeking and derailing serious discussion by inserting something which by your own admission is off topic to both the thread, the forum, and the general discussion.

And you cannot see that this is not acceptable behaviour?

[checkyourprez]

No, you were vauge, so assumption had to be made. Idiot. Nice way of covering your own ass, quoting from the Bible. You can never be wrong, you could interpret it a million ways.


yea i believe he is wrong, but dude your hostility is not needed. you just instigate stupid ass aurguments off topic from things sometimes because of your assinine comments. you spit that same shit "im right" attitude too.

[Ace42]

you spit that same shit "im right" attitude too.

Yeah, but it is just that bit more justified when you are right.

[checkyourprez]

Yeah, but it is just that bit more justified when you are right.


thats the time to be humble. being a dick only allienates the person you are proving wrong making them mad and not wanting to listen to what you have to say even more than they did in the first place.

large scale, but look at germany after WWI. if they werent dicked so bad after that war does hitler come to power?, do all the people die on account of that?

[Ace42]

thats the time to be humble.

Look where that got Humble John Kerry.

[racer5.0stang]

Look where that got Humble John Kerry.


That is the funniest thing I've heard all day. Thanks (y)

[racer5.0stang]

No, you were vauge, so assumption had to be made. Idiot. Nice way of covering your own ass, quoting from the Bible. You can never be wrong, you could interpret it a million ways.

Isaiah
17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

I only see one interpretation.

Of course you would say " I meant the entire bible, idiot" well try one verse at a time.

[phinkasaurus]

Isaiah
17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

I only see one interpretation.

How does the above passage relate to Russia backing Iran, or the benifits or detriments of the decision for the u.s.?
Other than the fact Syria (where Damascus is located) is currently occupying Lebanon, I see no correlation at all.

Thanks.

(edited: thanks Soba...)

[SobaViolence]

Other than the fact Syria (where Damascus is located) is currently occupying Iran, I see no correlation at all.

Thanks.

occupying Iran?
wtf?

[phinkasaurus]

occupying Iran?
wtf?
my bad... I meant Lebanon.

[ASsman]

yea i believe he is wrong, but dude your hostility is not needed. you just instigate stupid ass aurguments off topic from things sometimes because of your assinine comments. you spit that same shit "im right" attitude too.
Suck me off, frankly I'm growing tired of you. And as for my "hostility", it's just my attitude toward morons. Especially when dealing with logical shit. And get off your horse, unless you know were Racer is coming from and has been, you really have no credible opinion on the matter.

Isaiah
17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

I only see one interpretation.

Of course you would say " I meant the entire bible, idiot" well try one verse at a time
Yah, that made a lot of sense. Try again.

[SobaViolence]

my bad... I meant Lebanon.

now THAT makes sense.... (y)

[checkyourprez]

Look where that got Humble John Kerry.


hah yea. id rather be john kerry than W any day. just a question of how id rather live my life. id choose not to be a scumbag.

[Ace42]

"It's lame to be proud to be lame" - Bart Simpson.

[checkyourprez]

Suck me off, frankly I'm growing tired of you. And as for my "hostility", it's just my attitude toward morons. Especially when dealing with logical shit. And get off your horse, unless you know were Racer is coming from and has been, you really have no credible opinion on the matter.




one im not talking just about him, which agian you fail to see the overall point.

but i can tell your a muther fucker whos balls grow when hes on the internet. get you on the streets you start poppin off at the mouth like that, youll get put in your place real quick. but i bet you know when to keep quite because you rough on the keyboard but thats about it.

[Ace42]

but i can tell your a muther fucker whos balls grow when hes on the internet. get you on the streets you start poppin off at the mouth like that, youll get put in your place real quick.

Ah... And here we see a classic example of the "I bet you are too weedy to say what you think IRL" variant on the "My dad would beat up your dad" defence.

Touché.

I can tell that you are a be-spectacled stereotypical nerd who wouldn't try to call out people face to face...

Oh my, what a great strategem. And I was going to go with the Casablanca opening...

[checkyourprez]

Ah... And here we see a classic example of the "I bet you are too weedy to say what you think IRL" variant on the "My dad would beat up your dad" defence.

Touché.

I can tell that you are a be-spectacled stereotypical nerd who wouldn't try to call out people face to face...

Oh my, what a great strategem. And I was going to go with the Casablanca opening...


aaaaa hahaaaa. grow up boy.

i know enough about you with that little drangon ball z shit u got going on there.

[ASsman]

one im not talking just about him, which agian you fail to see the overall point.

but i can tell your a muther fucker whos balls grow when hes on the internet. get you on the streets you start poppin off at the mouth like that, youll get put in your place real quick. but i bet you know when to keep quite because you rough on the keyboard but thats about it.
Come back when you have something worth discussing. No one else seems to have a problem with me correcting people when necessary. So move on Jew boy.


hah yea. id rather be john kerry than W any day. just a question of how id rather live my life. id choose not to be a scumbag.
Don't you why you are so proud about choosing a lesser evil, when by doing so you support the 2 party monopoly. Good job, you are the complacent "Left" Qdrop keeps talking about.

[checkyourprez]

Come back when you have something worth discussing. No one else seems to have a problem with me correcting people when necessary. So move on Jew boy.


o im a jew? nah. but nice for you to assume so.

im friends with all kinds of races. but when i find some dude who isnt white, and hes bitter about it, that kinda sucks.

[checkyourprez]

Don't you why you are so proud about choosing a lesser evil, when by doing so you support the 2 party monopoly. Good job, you are the complacent "Left" Qdrop keeps talking about.


you are a joke.

[Ace42]

i know enough about you with that little drangon ball z shit u got going on there.

I think the combination of you and 'knowing' might be too oxymoronic to yolk.

[ASsman]

This is getting way off topic, thanks you prez and Racer. And as for assumptions, wait didn't you just make one? And it wasn't meant as an assumption, but rather a racist insult.

you are a joke.
Atleast I am a funny one, you on the other hand are just sad.

[Ace42]

Atleast I am a funny one, you on the other hand are just sad.

He's right, prez... I am laughing at you, but that is solely down to self-satisfaction at my own whit. I could just as easily be laughing at a creation of my own imagination called "Mr Cummy-Pubes" - Infact, that would be slightly more amusing.

[checkyourprez]

hah you little guys make me laugh.

[checkyourprez]

This is getting way off topic, thanks you prez and Racer. And as for assumptions, wait didn't you just make one? And it wasn't meant as an assumption, but rather a racist insult.




yea it was ment to be, good you can pic up on those kinda things. i just thought for all your racist jokes you could get one back, but its just a joke :) . and mine only came out after yours.


being mean isnt cool, maybe you are unhappy with how things are going for you so you feel the need to try and shit on kids to make yourself feel better. but i dont have that sorta thing. its for weak people grow up. i just shot back when i get shot at.

[Ace42]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4303155.stm

[ASsman]

being mean isnt cool, maybe you are unhappy with how things are going for you so you feel the need to try and shit on kids to make yourself feel better. but i dont have that sorta thing. its for weak people grow up. i just shot back when i get shot at.
I make my self feel better by know that I am. Biyatch.