Canada says no to joining US missle defense system

[Paul Kemp]

Canada says no to US missile plan
Canada will not join a US-led missile defence system, it has announced.

Prime Minister Paul Martin said Canada remained the staunchest of US allies, despite deciding to opt out of the ballistic umbrella.

The decision, widely predicted, is expected to win popular support. Polls suggest most Canadians oppose the plan.

The US said it had taken note of the news. Correspondents say the decision could cool the relationship between the two countries.

It follows Canadian criticism of the US-led war in Iraq in 2003.

Interceptor test

"We respect the right of the United States to defend itself and its people," Mr Martin said on Thursday.

"Indeed, we will continue to work in partnership with our southern neighbours in the common defence of North America and on continental security.

"However, ballistic missile defence is not where we will concentrate our efforts."

The US said it had successfully tested an interceptor missile in the Pacific on Thursday.

It said in five out of the six trials undertaken so far to shoot down an incoming missile, the technology had worked.

Mr Martin had previously backed participation in the programme, and Canada started formal talks earlier this year on its possible participation.

US advances

But heading a minority government and facing significant opposition to the plan from within his own Liberal party, the prime minister was under intense domestic pressure to shun US advances.

In Washington, a State Department official reacted to the news, saying: "We certainly hope that despite the decision we'll still be able to continue our broad range of cooperation on bilateral issues, including on defense cooperation."

On Tuesday Ottawa's new ambassador to the US caused an uproar by saying a defence pact the two neighbours signed last year meant Canada was effectively already part of the defence system.

Canada agreed in August to allow the joint Canadian-US air defence command to share information with the missile defence programme.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/4289925.stm

Published: 2005/02/25 04:15:12 GMT

great, now Canada is going to have no defense against those missles that all our enemys will launch at us

[ASsman]

Blame Canada.

[infidel]

Canadians hate freedom, that's why they don't have a massive deficit

[ASsman]

Canadians hate freedom, that's why they don't have a massive deficit
They don't? A little Democracy™ will help that!

[DroppinScience]

Huh. I never thought we'd actually say no to this.

I was convinced that we'd kow-tow to the U.S. on this issue.

Don't worry about those missiles hitting Canada, fellas, we'll start up our own missile shield: by that I mean polar bears on jet packs will intercept any missile that comes headed to Canada from.... oh, I dunno, Luxembourg? Denmark? Antarctica? :confused:

[SobaViolence]

i dunno about the rest of you bastards, but firing missles over another sovereign nation's airspace is a declaration of war, especially when its MY nation.

and i am relieved we said no. this american cock riding was getting disgusting...

[ASsman]

We didn't want to join anyways!

:p

[Uru-Nitro]

Canadians hate freedom, that's why they don't have a massive deficit

best quote in the history of this board

[Ali]

It said in five out of the six trials undertaken so far to shoot down an incoming missile, the technology had worked. that's reassuring... NOT

[Qdrop]

i dunno about the rest of you bastards, but firing missles over another sovereign nation's airspace is a declaration of war, especially when its MY nation.


yeah, but could canada do about it?

i guess canada doesn't really need a stategic partner....they don't do anything to upset the rest of the world.
well.....canada doesn't really do ANYthing......canada just....sits there.

[Ace42]

yeah, but could canada do about it?

Cut off the water supply to the US, and take down the power grid.

[Qdrop]

Cut off the water supply to the US, and take down the power grid.

no, they couldn't.
nor would they......

canada would never cross the US....not on that level.
even if we began shipping toxic waste to their major cities and force feeding it to thier infants.

[Ace42]

no, they couldn't.


They could. That collossal power outtage that effected most of NE Yankland also effected Canadia due to the power-grids being interlinked. It is inconceivable to think that something which happened by accident could not be easily duplicated with willful intent.

As for the water, they could simply not ship any more. Trust me, no-one knows better than I how easy it is to sit on your arse and do nothing. Real fucking easy.

Then see how happy the US is when their crops dry up and they have to bath in their own urine.

[Qdrop]

They could. That collossal power outtage that effected most of NE Yankland also effected Canadia due to the power-grids being interlinked. It is inconceivable to think that something which happened by accident could not be easily duplicated with willful intent.

As for the water, they could simply not ship any more. Trust me, no-one knows better than I how easy it is to sit on your arse and do nothing. Real fucking easy.

Then see how happy the US is when their crops dry up and they have to bath in their own urine.

oh, i'm not saying that TACTICALLY they could not.
they could.

but stategically, it would fuck them FAR worse then us...

like it or not....canada needs it's "asshole imperialist neighbor to the south".

[racer5.0stang]

yeah, but could canada do about it?

They could cut off tourism from their half of Niagra Falls.

[Qdrop]

They could cut off tourism from their half of Niagra Falls.

my GOD! the US would crumble.


RACer, what happened to you bible buddy, ILL?
did he quit the whole "God thing" or something?

[Ace42]

RACer, what happened to you bible buddy, ILL?
did he quit the whole "God thing" or something?

Last I remember, he was pissed off with racer. There was "trouble in paradise."

[Qdrop]

Last I remember, he was pissed off with racer. There was "trouble in paradise."

wow.
did not know that.


"as the message board turns...."

funny, when scientists disagree, bible thumpers use that as fule for the fodder...claiming that "science can't agree, thus it must be flawed".

can the same be said of christianity?


;)

[Whois]

i dunno about the rest of you bastards, but firing missles over another sovereign nation's airspace is a declaration of war, especially when its MY nation.

and i am relieved we said no. this american cock riding was getting disgusting...

DVDA Merican style...

[SobaViolence]

and we can stop giving usa the majority of our crude oil.

[Qdrop]

and we can stop giving usa the majority of our crude oil.

yes, because if the US stopped it's exports into canada...or if the US stopped buying other exports from canada....
canada would be A-OK, huh?

canada is too reliant on the US....come on.
whether you have ethics on your side or not....it's just not pragmatic.
a lot of hot air, in other words.

much like how the US never seems to hold Saudi arabia responsible for thier bullshit (the 9/11 hijackers, ect)...we're too dependant on them.

[Echewta]

Or stop being one of the major importers into the U.S. of kinda like everything.

[Qdrop]

Or stop being one of the major importers into the U.S. of kinda like everything.

yeah, kinda.

[racer5.0stang]

Last I remember, he was pissed off with racer. There was "trouble in paradise."

I recall him being mad at Qdrop, not me.

[ASsman]

I recall him being mad at Qdrop, not me.
Pfff, I have a free iTunes download bitch. What the fuck are you gonna do about it?

[Baraka]

my GOD! the US would crumble.


RACer, what happened to you bible buddy, ILL?
did he quit the whole "God thing" or something?

It's great that you think you know everything, but you clearly don't (http://www.canadianembassy.org/trade/wltr-en.asp). We would be in big trouble without our neighbours to the north.

[Ace42]

I recall him being mad at Qdrop, not me.

Your recollection is feeble, that is probably why you are so dense. Your neolithic under-evolved cranium is incapable of storing facts for longer than a month.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=41182&highlight=trouble+paradise

[Rosie Cotton]

Last I remember, he was pissed off with racer. There was "trouble in paradise."
*shakes head sadly*

So another board couple broke up, huh?

[racer5.0stang]

Your recollection is feeble, that is probably why you are so dense. Your neolithic under-evolved cranium is incapable of storing facts for longer than a month.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=41182&highlight=trouble+paradise

It would appear that your weak grasp of 1st grade English has again impaired your ability to decifer information correctly. The link that you posted is dated in December. Check this link out for a more recent conversation.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=43747 (http://)

[Qdrop]

It's great that you think you know everything, but you clearly don't (http://www.canadianembassy.org/trade/wltr-en.asp). We would be in big trouble without our neighbours to the north.

*sigh*

yes, it's called "interdependancy"....
we need each other.....no one is going anywhere.....
that's why any threats to the contrary are fantasy.....

again, just a few posts up:



canada is too reliant on the US (and us on them)....come on.
whether you have ethics on your side or not....it's just not pragmatic.
a lot of hot air, in other words.

much like how the US never seems to hold Saudi arabia responsible for thier bullshit (the 9/11 hijackers, ect)...we're too dependant on them.

[Qdrop]

It would appear that your weak grasp of 1st grade English has again impaired your ability to decifer information correctly. The link that you posted is dated in December. Check this link out for a more recent conversation.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=43747 (http://)


dude, i don't really give a shit....nor does anyone else....

i didn't really want an answer when i asked you what happened to ILL....

[Ace42]

It would appear that your weak grasp of 1st grade English has again impaired your ability to decifer information correctly.

Yes, well done, you copied my criticisms of your inept postings, and applied them to me. Unfortunately, as what I said was quite correct, and your post (including the one to which I am replying) is a load of bullshit, it doesn't carry any weight. You can copy my style, but because you do not understand it, it just comes across as a kid's piss-poor crayon drawing of a stick-woman and him saying "It's the mona lisa!"

Let's take this from the top - try to keep up. I know it will be hard, as you are a moron, but you might learn something. Like, I dunno, to stop posting before you think.

Last I remember, he was pissed off with racer. There was "trouble in paradise."

This should be very very simple. It only makes one point. That you and 100% Ill were not "the best of buddies" as implied in the previous post by Qdrop.

I recall him being mad at Qdrop, not me.

This again is very simple. It says that you do not recall 100% Ill being mad at you. The fact that he may have been annoyed at Qdrop is beside the point as he was before and after. I am sure he is also annoyed with all manner of people, and yet we were not talking about his relationship with ANYONE ELSE - regardless of whether they are on the board or no.

Your recollection is feeble, that is probably why you are so dense. Your neolithic under-evolved cranium is incapable of storing facts for longer than a month.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/show...rouble+paradise

This is also simple. You said, quite clearly that 100% Ill had not been annoyed at you. This is incorrect, and the link proves it conclusively.

Specifically the quote in that thread:

Instead you throw a similar but irrelevent quote at me further solidifying my increasing suspiscion that you are either 15 or just sophomoric in behavior.

That is not a comment made by someone who holds you in high regard.

Check this link out for a more recent conversation.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=43747

Now, before I clicked that link, I *knew* that it was going to be irrelevant bullshit, because you are a dumbass who shouldn't really be allowed to own or operate something as sophisticated as a computer. However, just so I could rubbish you yet again, I decided to persevere.

Now, what precisely am I supposed to be looking at? I see no post where he says he likes you, nor where he says he recants criticising your intelligence. I can see that he quotes you briefly, but all he says is that he does not believe he is homophobic. I hardly see how that even remotely suggests:

1. That he was never annoyed at you.
2. That he was not even annoyed with you at that moment.

At best that suggests that since he was annoyed at you he made a few posts in which were neutral in register towards you.

So, from this we can assume that for some perverse reason only known to your malfunctioning cancer-brain, him showing quite catergorically that he held you in disdain somehow "didn't count" presumably because:

The link that you posted is dated in December.

What are you trying to suggest? That if someone insults you in december, it "doesn't count" - or was that month just a group hallucination? Let me guess, because Christmas is in that month, that means if anyone voices their concempt for your inadequet mental faculties, Jesus changes the English language and it actually means that he really likes and respects you?

So, to go back to the start:

It would appear that your weak grasp of 1st grade English has again impaired your ability to decifer information correctly.

Now, as I have shown (and as anyone who wasn't as congentially handicapped as yourself would've followed the first time around) that statement applies to you, and it clearly does not apply to me.

So really, just shut the fuck up. Every time you post something you are wrong. Even when dealing with something as cut and dry as this, you talk drivel and can't follow a simple conversation. You are a waste of Oxygen, and I hope to God that you and all your line die out soon and stop polluting this planet with your insipid worthless seed.

[Qdrop]

i could be wrong,...... but i don't think Ace likes Racer much.

[Ace42]

I'm sure as a social entity, he is perfectly pleasant. However, as a fully functioning human being with all the associated mental faculties, he is not only devoid of merit, but also dangerous.

People like him are responsible for most of the suffering in the world, and they are too stupid to see it. They're like that klutzy chick in that superman movie that had Robert Vaughn in. She walks down the street in a world of her own, accidentally causing chaos and traffic accidents, etc blissfully unaware that her being a feckless airhead is actually a drain on the world and society.

[Qdrop]

They're like that klutzy chick in that superman movie that had Robert Vaughn in. She walks down the street in a world of her own, accidentally causing chaos and traffic accidents, etc blissfully unaware that her being a feckless airhead is actually a drain on the world and society.

you give them too much leeway...

i think people such as Racer are all too aware of what they are doing....and with someone like bush in office.....all too enabled and encouraged.

[bb_bboy]

I'm sure as a social entity, he is perfectly pleasant. However, as a fully functioning human being with all the associated mental faculties, he is not only devoid of merit, but also dangerous. People like him are responsible for most of the suffering in the world, and they are too stupid to see it.

You've just rewritten verbatim every letter of recommendation I've ever received. Perhaps this is why I can't get that parole hearing ...

[racer5.0stang]

i could be wrong,...... but i don't think Ace likes Racer much.


If he didn't, why would he continue to carry on conversations with me? He obviously puts alot of time and effort in to his replies. If it were not for me, who would he talk to?

If it were not for our contentious personalities, we would not get along so well.