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Ali
03-02-2005, 04:01 PM
VIENNA (Reuters) - The United States accused Iran on Wednesday of deceiving U.N. inspectors over its nuclear arms ambitions, a charge diplomats said increased pressure on Tehran to accept European demands in key talks this month.

The criticism comes a day before President Bush was to meet Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to discuss whether to join Europe in offering incentives to Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions.

France, Britain and Germany, which criticized Tehran for not fully adhering to its pledge to freeze all activities that could be used to make atomic weapons, are offering Iran economic and political incentives to terminate the most sensitive parts of its program. Iran has refused.

Bush has taken a harder line, calling for Iran to face U.N. sanctions, but hinted last week he may support the EU trio's approach. It would mark a significant shift in strategy for Bush, who has been reluctant to consider incentives for Iran to avoid being seen as rewarding bad behavior.

Bush's envoy Jackie Sanders told the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) board of governors that Iran was "willing and apparently able to cynically manipulate the nuclear non-proliferation regime in the pursuit of nuclear weapons."

The U.N. nuclear watchdog's governing board had a "statutory obligation" to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions, she said, according to a text of her speech.

"The Security Council has the international, legal and political authority that will bring this issue to a successful and peaceful resolution."

TOUGH RHETORIC

Tehran has temporarily frozen the program as requested by the EU, though the IAEA said Iran has continued some work related to enrichment centrifuges during the freeze.

The United States accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons under the cover of its civil nuclear program. Iran denies this, saying its nuclear program is peaceful and aims to produce power for its growing population.

European diplomats told Reuters the tough rhetoric from Washington would strengthen their position later this month in a new round of talks with Iran, which has so far rejected the EU's demand that it abandon its uranium enrichment program.

One possible incentive for Tehran's agreement to give up nuclear weapons was that the United States would not oppose Iran applying for membership in the World Trade Organization.

The head of Iran's delegation, Sirus Naseri, said abandoning uranium enrichment was not a topic that would be up for discussion with the Europeans when they meet later this month.

"This is something that is not on the table and will not be on the table," Naseri said.

Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Hassan Rohani, speaking to state television on Tuesday, said Iran was not afraid of being sent to the Security Council.

"We are not interested in being referred to the Security Council ... but we are not scared of the Council either because we have been acting within the framework of international rules," he said.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, investigating Iran's nuclear program for over two years, told reporters Iran had to be more open if he was to conclude whether its program was peaceful. Don't expect your soldiers home soon... or ever.

Qdrop
03-02-2005, 04:17 PM
we don't have the money or the manpower to do anything right now or anytime soon....
not alone,anyway....

first off....WHY does Iran want nuclear weapons?
what will they gain from nuclear armament and membership in the nuclear council?

regardless of the answer...

i say we let them produce nuclear power AND weapons.-- with the understanding that it is purely for defense (of what, i don't know), and mutual leverage (as it is with other nuclear nations).
if they want to join the ranks of the nuclear countries....go for it. assuming they are accepted by the other nuclear powers and thier council (i believe that's how it works).


BUT the with the explicit understanding that if they sell any nuclear weapons or nuclear material...they can expect extreme military retribution from the rest of the world.
and if any of those weapons are used (ie- by terrorists) and thus is traced back to Iran....
that whole fuckin regime is coming down....fuck the collateral damage.
if the "collateral public" doesn't like that....the "collateral public" should get off thier asses and take control of thier gov't.

the same goes for korea....

i just don't see why countries want nuclear weapons anymore...
no one is going to use them directly....
they're for show.

ASsman
03-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Pfff, manpower? Just shoot some Tomahawks. Shit, we can only expect to win.

bdavid
03-02-2005, 04:23 PM
You realize Grand Wizard is a term a-holes in the Clan use don't you all-star. Nice tag dork.

Ali
03-02-2005, 04:25 PM
You realize Grand Wizard is a term a-holes in the Clan use don't you all-star. Nice tag dork.You would know, of course.

Aren't you s'posed to be hangin' a niggah?

ASsman
03-02-2005, 04:25 PM
Obviously. Although I wasn't expecting you to know, of course that name probably sounds "cool" to idiots like you. Which expain why moron supremacists use it.

Ali
03-02-2005, 04:28 PM
moron supremacists use it.unlike the intelligent supremacists?

ASsman
03-02-2005, 04:29 PM
unlike the intelligent supremacists?
They aren't exclusive, at all.

You could argue ignorance, but.... that's you not letting yourself learn, because of your stupidity.

Ali
03-02-2005, 04:32 PM
They aren't exclusive, at all.

You could argue ignorance, but.... that's you not letting yourself learn, because of your stupidity.Can you argue if you're ignorant? Take Qtip, for example. Ignorant, cannot argue, never learns. Case closed.

Qdrop
03-02-2005, 04:37 PM
Can you argue if you're ignorant? Take Qtip, for example. Ignorant, cannot argue, never learns. Case closed.

I cannot argue?

jesus, do you ever make posts more than 2 sentances long?

i think i have yet to witness you take up significant debate or argument with anyone.

you and whois are the same fuckin deal: just one-liner trolls who haven't the ability to engage with anyone using anything other than one or two line "sound bytes".
you rarely support ANY comment or stance you make....

"qdip is a cretin...sqUAWWWWWWWWK!....QDROP IS CRETIN...SQUAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWK....."