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hellojello
03-02-2005, 09:31 PM
ok so i'm on a cleansing diet..which basically is something i made up in my head and means I have to drink a shit-load of water...Anyways APPARENTLY you're meant to drink 2 litres (which i think is about 68floz - i just checked the conversion couold be wrong) anyways 2 litres to me is A LOT (even if elle machpherson does it - she probably doesn't eat anything and THAT"S Y) cause if i try and drink that much in a day i'ma spend half my time drinking and the rest of my time pissing. ANYWAYS the point of this thread is
DOES ANYONE KNOW:
WHEN THEY SAY U HAVE TO DRINK 2 LITRES OF WATER A DAY - DO THEY MEAN 2 LITRES OF STRAIGHT WATER? OR CAN U COUNT JUICE/TEA THAT SORT OF THING AS PART OF YOUR WATER INTAKE??
ANYONE KNOW? SOMEONE HELP?
plz, kthanx

hellojello
03-02-2005, 09:46 PM
wow damaja i didn't realise that you actually had the ability to say something useful.
right on bruvva

cosmo105
03-02-2005, 10:38 PM
straight water. don't add anything. the body needs pure water. all that extra shit won't help.

68 ounces is nothing. i drink almost a gallon a day when i'm at work.

just what is this cleansing diet anyway? please elaborate on it and maybe i could give you some tips.

hellojello
03-02-2005, 10:43 PM
it's a "I'm-trying-to-get-5-years-of-smoking-weed-every-day-out-of-my system-as-fast-as-i-can" Cleansing Diet
Ok well that's for the tip Cos, I'll try and do my bestest to drink as much 'straight' water as possible it's just that water goes straight through me and i really DO spend way to much time pissing.
I have better things to do u know, like making pointless threads on this message board :rolleyes:

HEIRESS
03-02-2005, 11:24 PM
so the diet is just flat out water drinking.....then i suggest you start chuggin yo

I would say you could count tea
shit green tea is better for you then jes plain water anyways
try some rooibos tea too
but dont add any sweeteners or nothing or drink any caffeinated shit

and fuck juice
unless you sqeeze it yourself

first thing you should do every morning as soon as you wake up is slap back 2-3 glasses of water
best way to wake up and start your day right

cosmo105
03-03-2005, 12:52 AM
i've heard from cops that if you really want to get weed residues out of your blood/urine to drink nothing but grapefruit juice for a day or so. of course, this is pretty bad for you. all that stuff out there is loaded with sugar, and you'll probably pass out or something. something to consider, though.

but heiress gave some really great advice. you might want to see if you can find an herbal detox tea. no, not the kind for drug tests. it should include dandelion and milk thistle at the least for the liver. alfalfa is also really good...just be careful. some of them have lots of laxatives like cascara sagrada, senna, and fennel. while these are good for detoxing, it's best to avoid laxatives unless you're really constipated or want to do serious cleansing, because the body can become addicted to them and you won't be able to poo without them. trust me, it has happened to a lot of our customers that didn't know any better. anyway, good luck and all. eat as many raw or steamed veggies (none of that iceberg lettuce shit) as you can and tons of fruit as snacks throughout the day. avoid red meat and go with fish instead. avoid caffeine and refined sugars, too. what else...just keep a big jug of water with you all the time and swig from it constantly. most hunger cravings can be satisfied with water. after a while, it becomes habit to drink tons. your body will thank you :)

hellojello
03-03-2005, 03:12 AM
Hey cosmo and heiress
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE (y) u guys rock.
just fyi this is NOT a water only diet, I am eating just trying to get the weed out of my system...but NOT because i'm being tested for drugs, just for my own personal benefit. I only really eat vegetables and fruit and occasionaly bread or pasta anyways. Minimal ammounts of cheeze and milk. That's about it.
Cosmo: What's wrong with iceberg lettuce??? i like that stuff :( i do always try and steam my vegies but mostly I"m too lazy to cook. I've been living on tabouli three days now, that should do some good (i hope?) And do u mean alfalfa tea? or alfala sprouts??
Heiress: I have that green tea, I think i'll make myself one now, thx hun :)
but what's wrong with non-squeeze urself juice? I had a juicer but it broke, I meant to take it back cuz it was still under warrently at teh time but months later when i finally decided to try and get it fixed, it was TWO DAYS out of warrenty. Typical. I guess i was too lazy to use it anyways. Only made juice about 3 or 4 times before it broke...
I'll keep you's posted on my progress

cosmo105
03-03-2005, 03:32 AM
iceberg lettuce is crap. it's not very green, right? that's because it lacks nutritional value. i don't know why it's so popular in America. i think it's awful.
and juices you buy...well, obviously they're not as fresh. a lot of them are just high in sugar and stuff, and most of them are from concentrate, so it's really just a beverage and not a source of nutrients.
and i meant alfalfa as an ingredient in a detox tea. if you go into any health food/herbal store, ask if they have a detoxification tea and check to see if it has ingredients like i mentioned. or ask for help, usually they're more than willing to give you advice and work with your needs. don't be stubborn, though, if they suggest something different from what i've said. there's nothing more irritating that someone coming in and DEMANDING a certain product/ingredient because someone suggested it to them, and then they really don't know what it'll do for them...

hellojello
03-03-2005, 03:34 AM
iceberg lettuce is crap. it's not very green, right? that's because it lacks nutritional value. i don't know why it's so popular in America. i think it's awful.
i know it's like 90% water or something but i still like it :(

Rancid_Beasties
03-03-2005, 05:17 AM
Are spinach leaves and the such good, because thats what I always have in salads :)
Plus I reckon most days I wouldn't drink 2 L of liquid in total, but then some days I might drink 4L of water at work. If it balances out to 2L is that ok or does it have to be consistent to have any real cleanisng benefit (other than satisfying thirst)?

Ohh yeah and good luck hellojello from one melbournian to another (y)

hellojello
03-03-2005, 05:33 AM
Are spinach leaves and the such good, because thats what I always have in salads :)
Plus I reckon most days I wouldn't drink 2 L of liquid in total, but then some days I might drink 4L of water at work. If it balances out to 2L is that ok or does it have to be consistent to have any real cleanisng benefit (other than satisfying thirst)?

Ohh yeah and good luck hellojello from one melbournian to another (y)
hehe thanx for the heads up rancid beasties :D
I think that baby spinach is hella good for you. But DID U KNOW that if you have one 50ml shot of that wheat grass shit (which is easy-as to grow urself all u need to do is buy some 'cracked wheat' then plant it) it is equal to like [eating] 4kg of green leafy vegies ie, spinach, silverbeat, lettuce etc. Don't quote me on that 4kg thing I could be wrong but i know it's equal to a hell of a lot anyways.

Rancid_Beasties
03-03-2005, 06:03 AM
I've heard wheatgrass by itself is putrid :( But I intend to try it one day

hellojello
03-03-2005, 06:08 AM
I've heard wheatgrass by itself is putrid :( But I intend to try it one day
ive tried it; it just tastes like grass
which isn't that great but i'd hardly call it putrid. You just need a chaser.
when u buy it at them juice bars they just give u like a tiny shot, but my bro grows it himself and drinks like 400-500mls at a time, no shit
he's like a hardcore athlete (competed at nationals a tonne of times) and in the first week he starting drinking it he knocked 5seconds of his PB or someshit like that.
good stuff (y)

ms.peachy
03-03-2005, 06:36 AM
The jury is still out on whether or not the 2 litres of water a day you need to consume has to be 2 litres of plain water on top of your normal intake, or if it has to be a total of of 2 including what you would get from food consumption content.

On one hand, you will find experts who say "it's best to drink 2 litres of pure water, on its own." However a few years back the study that was often quoted as supporting this statement was determined to POSSIBLY be biased. It turns out the research was largely funded by a bottled water consortium, which isn't neccessarily bad (industries do this all the time), and doesn't neccessarily mean the data was faulty, but the problem is that the funding source was not disclosed at the outset and this casts a long shadow. It's just a no-no in the research community becasue it makes your results suspect.

On the other hand, you will also find experts who say that whilst it is certainly advisable to drink a higher proportion of water than fruit juices (and really to not drink sodas/fizzy drinks much at all if ever), the water naturally found in the foods in your diet should by all means count towards your total intake, and that if you are eating the proper amounts of fruits and vegetable daily in your diet, that should take you to nearly 50% of your neccessary intake (in other words, close to 1 litre).

For your purposes of detoxifying, a bit of extra water certainly isn't going to hurt you and may indeed help. BUT, not if you guzzle it all in just a couple of turns. Your body has something of a natural 'overflow' storm drain, and if you just guzzle down a load of water it's not going to really do much of anything other than get shunted straight off to the kidneys to be disposed of. It won't serve to hydrate you in any way, which means it will not have the effect of helping your bloodstream to collect deposits of toxins from the tissues throughout your body. What you want to do is keep a bottle of water with you and sip from it continually throughout the day.

Hiebz
03-03-2005, 06:44 AM
also something to consider or research better (cause I might be a little too lazy to) is to drink a glass of wine before bedtime (no, not the whole bottle). I believe I've read it somewhere (maybe a study tested by wine industry scientests, but hey what the heck). However, my mom has parkinson's and my dad has something the doctors haven't figured out yet, but for keeping healthy they were told about the glass of wine thing. I've sent them some bottles from here in France and now they talk about it all the time. Throughout my childhood and early adulthood I saw them maybe drink 5 drinks total, so it is kinda funny now that they seem to be turning into winos :D

jabumbo
03-03-2005, 11:09 AM
For your purposes of detoxifying, a bit of extra water certainly isn't going to hurt you and may indeed help. BUT, not if you guzzle it all in just a couple of turns. Your body has something of a natural 'overflow' storm drain, and if you just guzzle down a load of water it's not going to really do much of anything other than get shunted straight off to the kidneys to be disposed of. It won't serve to hydrate you in any way, which means it will not have the effect of helping your bloodstream to collect deposits of toxins from the tissues throughout your body. What you want to do is keep a bottle of water with you and sip from it continually throughout the day.

miss, that reached me on a weird water resources level, and i can totally understand how it works just like your sewer system does...


i remember in health class, our teacher would get someone to volunteer to try and drink the 2 liters of water during the 45 minute time period to show us how much it really was. he would have 8 glasses on a table, and say we should drink that much water each day...i think the closest someone came is about halfway because they tried to chug it all down and just got a stomach ache or pushed it all back out right away

cosmo105
03-03-2005, 11:54 AM
thanks, ms. peachy. as usual, full of good info :)

yeah, don't try to drink it all at once. i have a pretty big water bottle, i think it's about 2 litres, that i fill up at work and swig from all day. don't worry about it too much, man. just drink what you can, and make an effort to have that for a beverage instead of something like soda or anything of that sort.

Hiebz, wine has a lot of healthy properties to it. mostly antioxidants, but there are all kinds of compounds in it that do nice things for you. the key, of course, is moderation, as in all things.

ms.peachy
03-04-2005, 04:39 AM
thanks, ms. peachy. as usual, full of good info :)



cheers (y) between your expertise and mine I think we keep this section pretty well informed and up to speed LOL

enree erzweglle
03-04-2005, 06:45 AM
Dang, I drink two liters of H20 after exercise each morning--but I'm doing stuff for 2-3 hours straight, so maybe that's out of context.

You can drink too much water.

hellojello
03-18-2005, 12:08 PM
if u eat a LOT of salt, which i do, im a salt addict, do you think it would cancel out the affect of 2 litres of water or atleast require me to drink more than 2 litres to make up for the dehydration caused by my excessive salt intake????
help

HEIRESS
03-18-2005, 12:22 PM
BLOATING

hellojello
03-18-2005, 12:44 PM
BLOATING
from the water or the salt?
i piss a LOT, more than normal i swear
and besides i could do with some bloating sometimes i fear i look a bit annorexic :mad: and not in a good way in a boney twiggy kinda way

HEIRESS
03-18-2005, 12:58 PM
from the water or the salt?


when you OD on both at the same time

hellojello
03-18-2005, 01:02 PM
when you OD on both at the same time
oh ok thanks
does bloating have any adverse affects on your health other than making u feel bloated? dr.? dr. ;)

hellojello
03-18-2005, 02:03 PM
I drank too much water today, and now I am pissing every 18 seconds and it hurts. :(
LOL it HURTS to piss?
ghonnaria anyone?



sorry it was 2 e z

HEIRESS
03-18-2005, 02:39 PM
oh ok thanks
does bloating have any adverse affects on your health other than making u feel bloated? dr.? dr. ;)

too much fucking salt does

and bloating just makes you look like shit

JBernas
03-18-2005, 02:44 PM
You can drink too much water.

You really can drink TOO much water and it's not good for you, but I think you have to drink a ton for it to reach that level....it's called water intoxication and it occurs when you drink so much water that it dilutes the salt content in your blood (then your organs begin to shut down). A recent case of this was in the news not too long ago.....a college student was being 'hazed' and instead of making the pledges drink alcohol, which was no longer allowed after someone died, they made them drink mass quantities of water....he got water intoxication and died.....had no idea you could die from drinking too much water :(

hellojello
03-18-2005, 03:47 PM
too much fucking salt does

and bloating just makes you look like shit
yea well maybe if your fat.
ive never actually seen someone and gone ''man they look bloated they look like shit'' i guess im just not that superficial.
except for like a dead person. but that's different.

ms.peachy
03-18-2005, 05:11 PM
yea well maybe if your fat.
ive never actually seen someone and gone ''man they look bloated they look like shit'' i guess im just not that superficial.
except for like a dead person. but that's different.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. It's nothing to do with superficial.

You personally might not be able to recognise the physical signs of bloating as opposed to fatty tissue, but many people can.

I've noticed that you seem to have this tendency to want to say stuff so that you'll come off as sounding really nonchalant and clever, but instead you succeed only in making yourself look ignorant. Why don't you just give yourself a break and stop trying to mouth off and put everyone else down all the time, and try just being a nice person? You might find it suits you.

hellojello
03-18-2005, 05:51 PM
find me two pictures a compare of and contrast of a bloated person and a non-bloated person if you will. i dare ya.
not counting malnourish people from the third world that's entirely different.
i noticed u always have a tendency to want to be right and prove people wrong that's why u constantly try and argue with me because you can't handle it that someone possibly maybe knows as much as you might.
if you're seriously trying to tell me you notice people that are bloated and unbloated just walking down the street you're not as smart as i gave u credit for ms_peachy.
seriously
and if its not superficial to go 'oh that person's bloated they look shit'' which is what heiress said..i don't know what is.

ms.peachy
03-18-2005, 06:00 PM
You 'dare' me?

Oh fucking grow up and get over it, child. Why do you always feel like you have to prove yourself? Don't you have enough confidence to believe that you are OK just as you are, and that you don't need to try and bring other people down to big yourself up?

hellojello
03-18-2005, 06:10 PM
LOL as expected. will you get off your soap box now?
look ms_peachy in your orgasmic desperation to prove me wrong you totally mis-interpreted what i said to heiress. i didn't say that i can't tell the difference between being fat and bloated i said that maybe if you're fat you can notice that your bloated. being a slim person, i don't notice that i'm bloated. but maybe i just don't analyse my body that much like some 'superficial' women.
what's the definition of superficial ms_peachy?

5 entries found for superficial.
su·per·fi·cial ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spr-fshl)
adj.
Of, affecting, or being on or near the surface: a superficial wound.
Concerned with or comprehending only what is apparent or obvious; shallow.
Apparent rather than actual or substantial: a superficial resemblance.
Trivial; insignificant: made only a few superficial changes in the manuscript.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=superficial

once again if saying someone looks shit purely because they're bloated it is in fact superficial Of, affecting, or being on or near the surface: a superficial wound. i apologize for repeating myself but u seem to be having difficulty with comprehension this evening
too many red wine's perhaps??


You 'dare' me?

Oh fucking grow up and get over it, child. Why do you always feel like you have to prove yourself? Don't you have enough confidence to believe that you are OK just as you are, and that you don't need to try and bring other people down to big yourself up?
isn't that exactly what you're doing "feeling the need to prove yourself" in jumping in on something i said to heiress and not the board?
take a look at urself why don't u.

PS i know you're just wetting urself to be right and have the last word ms_peachy
this one's on me ok ;)

ms.peachy
03-18-2005, 06:26 PM
isn't that exactly what you're doing "feeling the need to prove yourself" in jumping in on something i said to heiress and not the board?
Uh... you did say it to the board. This is a public message board. Everything you say on it, is to the board. If you want to have a private exchange, there is a method to do that at your disposal. That's not what you did.

And, you didn't say, as you claim, "maybe if you're fat you can notice that your bloated." What actually happened was that heiress said this:

and bloating just makes you look like shit

and then you said this

yea well maybe if your fat.
ive never actually seen someone and gone ''man they look bloated they look like shit'' i guess im just not that superficial.

Now if you didn't express yourself clearly and what you MEANT to say was that it would be easier for a heavier person to tell if they were bloated, that's not my fault. But, regardless, that is inaccurate. (Plus I don't believe that you're not that superficial; your immediate leaps to judgemental comments in these forums is a pretty strong clue about that there.)

I really don't understand what you gain from being so 'in your face' all the time with everyone.

Bitchamachacha
03-18-2005, 06:33 PM
Withdrawl symptoms?

:confused:

HEIRESS
03-18-2005, 06:36 PM
HEY HELLO JELLO THIS IS ME TALKING TO YOU

I CAN TELL WHEN IM BLOATED BECAUSE I LOOK AND FEEL LIKE SHIT AND IT IS APPARENT MOSTLY IN MY FACE
IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH OF AN ANSWER FOR YOU???
SORRY I WASNT BE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU WHICH IN TURN LEAD YOU TO START CALLING ME SUPERFICIAL, THATS WHAT I GET FOR HELPING I GUESS
BUT I WAS AT WORK AND CONCENTRATING ON OTHER THINGS PLUS YOUR REPLIES WERE PISSING ME OFF ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAD TO ACTUALLY EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE WHAT BLOATING WAS CAUSED BY IN THE FIRST PLACE
IM TYPING IN CAPS BECAUSE THEN IT WILL TAKE UP MORE SPACE WHEN YOU QUOTE ME FOR YOUR INANE COMEBACKS AND I LIKE SEEING MY WORDS IN BIG PRINT CAUSE IT FEEDS MY HUGE EGO AND ALL

fuck this im going to eat some caesar salad now

ms.peachy
03-18-2005, 06:37 PM
PS i know you're just wetting urself to be right and have the last word ms_peachy
this one's on me ok ;)

Yeah thanks I'll take it. Now, I'm away for the weekend. Bye bye.

hellojello
03-18-2005, 06:52 PM
Heiress i only said you were superficial because you said 'it makes you look shit' as if that was the be all and end all of it. I asked if there was any adverse health affects and I wouldn't exactly say what you look like is an adverse affect on your health. To assume so is being somewhat superficial IMO. To me it doesn't really matter what you look like as long as you're healthy. When you said 'it makes you look shit' i took that as some sort of personal reference to me. I don't know what being bloated does to you I assumed it was virtually nothing, I just asked, I didn't realise you were at work im sorry to have bothered you.
evidently it affects different people in different ways. I myself have never noticed me looking bloated though ive felt it, although not from drinking to much water and eating salt. Im sorry i upset you ok.

hellojello
03-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Withdrawl symptoms?

:confused:
the thread was started weeks ago i bought it back up instead of starting a new one cuz i was wondering about the salt thing

Running_Beastie
03-18-2005, 09:21 PM
You might want to be careful, there is a such thing as water intoxication. If you get too much pure water, there are not enough electrolights (certain minerals) in your system and your body could shut down. It happened to one of my roommates once when I was going through basic at the US Air Force Academy. He was trying to stay hydrated, and he actually over hydrated and just dropped after a workout. It sounds really weird, I know, but its true, and it is something to be careful of.