"if you were just better christians, aids would go away...

[Qdrop]

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/03/02/global10250.htm

"U.S. Gag on Needle Exchange Harms U.N. AIDS Efforts"

Before U.N. Narcotics Meeting, Groups in 56 Countries Assail U.S. Tactics....

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"we'll get rid of AIDS the Christian WAY!!"

[phinkasaurus]

awesome...

lends credibility to the conspiracy theory that the U.S. powers that be want the AIDS pandemic to wipe out whole sections of the globe so they can take over.

[ASsman]

Dude, stop sweating on me, you're gonna give me aids.

[Qdrop]

awesome...

lends credibility to the conspiracy theory that the U.S. powers that be want the AIDS pandemic to wipe out whole sections of the globe so they can take over.

i think it's more along of the lines of US christians forcing their "no drugs, no premarrital sex, no gays" agenda on the rest of the world.
at any cost.

[phinkasaurus]

i think it's more along of the lines of US christians forcing their "no drugs, no premarrital sex, no gays" agenda on the rest of the world.
at any cost.

so they can take their shit when they die.
land and oil and water, going to be huge commodities in the next 20 years.

[sarcasm in poor taste]
too bad darkies.... shouldn't have got aids.
[/sarcasm in poor taste]

[Qdrop]

so they can take their shit when they die.
land and oil and water, going to be huge commodities in the next 20 years.



yeah, but i'm sure you'll be able to get all of those things at Walmart....

[phinkasaurus]

zing!

[infidel]

My perspective as a Christian:

I believe we have more instances of serial killers, other forms of violence and diease because we are by and large a Christian nation, and therefore are targeted by demonic forces.

I believe there is a war between good and evil, and Satan isn't going to bother with those who are no threat to him.







Had you going there, ehh? :p

[racer5.0stang]

Where does the article say anything about Christians or Christianity?

[Rosie Cotton]

Why does this story remind me of Oral Roberts and his 600 foot Jesus tale?

[ms.peachy]

Where does the article say anything about Christians or Christianity?


I believe Q is inferring it from the reference to an 'abstinence' agenda, which is understandable.

However, I would say Q that you are being disingenuous by using a non-existent quote as though it were in fact pulled from the article, solely for the purpose of sensationalism. When the facts are plain enough, there is no need for such hyperbolic interjection, and it does serve to make your position less credible.

[Ali]

I believe Q is inferring it from the reference to an 'abstinence' agenda, which is understandable.

However, I would say Q that you are being disingenuous by using a non-existent quote as though it were in fact pulled from the article, solely for the purpose of sensationalism. When the facts are plain enough, there is no need for such hyperbolic interjection, and it does serve to make your position less credible.
Beautifully put!

Translation for Qtip: you're a bare-faced liar looking for attention and trying to sound clever.

[Funkaloyd]

you are being disingenuous by using a non-existent quote as though it were in fact pulled from the article, solely for the purpose of sensationalism.

Seems rather clear to me that it was satirical, and not to be taken as a real quotation.

[ms.peachy]

Seems rather clear to me that it was satirical, and not to be taken as a real quotation.

I get that, and I know this is not Journalism 101. I am just pointing out that I don't think the use of quotes made his position any stronger and so was not a particularly effective use of satire. Satire only really works when it points up the folly of your target, not when it just gives them additional ammunition.

PS Ali thanks i appreciate your support but you're kind of putting words in my mouth; I wasn't meaning my criticism to be quite so harsh on Q!

[Qdrop]

I get that, and I know this is not Journalism 101. I am just pointing out that I don't think the use of quotes made his position any stronger and so was not a particularly effective use of satire. Satire only really works when it points up the folly of your target, not when it just gives them additional ammunition.


yeah, well....what Funkloyd said.

artistic license....


PS Ali thanks i appreciate your support but you're kind of putting words in my mouth; I wasn't meaning my criticism to be quite so harsh on Q!

i wouldn't take his support to be very meaningful.
Ali "the squawking crow" just hates me.....so if anyone, at anytime writes anything even slightly critical of me, he jumps on their bandwagon like he was proposing marraige- kinda dropping his credibility to zero.
his extreme bias is fucking embarrassing.....but he's oblivious. blinded by hate and all that.
but i never expected anything more of him.

[Ace42]

i wouldn't take his support to be very meaningful.
Ali "the squawking crow" just hates me.....so if anyone, at anytime writes anything even slightly critical of me, he jumps on their bandwagon like he was proposing marraige- kinda dropping his credibility to zero.
his extreme bias is fucking embarrassing.....but he's oblivious. blinded by hate and all that.
but i never expected anything more of him.

Hah.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=587107&postcount=54

[racer5.0stang]

Hah.

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=587107&postcount=54


You went digging for that one.

[Ace42]

Yah, my search for Qdrop and Ali had a wide selection, however due to Ali still being on my ignore list, and Qdrop quoting him, that was the first one that I could see. I am positive there are tons of other equally good posts of those two cosying up, and Ali being a two-faced twat.

When someone says something he agrees with, he is an obsequious cock-sucker. Then as soon as someone says something he disagrees with, he does precisely what Q points out.

Either way, he seldom says anything of any significance.

[Qdrop]

Yah, my search for Qdrop and Ali had a wide selection, however due to Ali still being on my ignore list, and Qdrop quoting him, that was the first one that I could see. I am positive there are tons of other equally good posts of those two cosying up, and Ali being a two-faced twat.

When someone says something he agrees with, he is an obsequious cock-sucker. Then as soon as someone says something he disagrees with, he does precisely what Q points out.

Either way, he seldom says anything of any significance.

okay, okay....you pegged me on that ONE post.
fine.
but you have to admit, it was funny at the time....regardless of the target.
plus you had me on ignore at the time....and were still taking jibes at me as much as i at you.

none the less, water under the bridge.
while you (ace) and i are far from best mates.....we have at least been able to have civil, enjoyable debate lately....which is cool.

i believe we can both agree ALI is a fuckin squawking twat.......
and, as you stated, seldom says anything of any significance.

[ms.peachy]

Either way, he seldom says anything of any significance.

In the grand scheme of things, not one thing any of us says here has any significance, ever. None at all. Zero. Zip.

Now, isn't that liberating?

[YoungRemy]

satire or not, I just read an entire article looking for a quote about christians...

it is misleading

[Qdrop]

satire or not, I just read an entire article looking for a quote about christians...

it is misleading

i'm not a fuckin journalist.....
and if you can't make the conncection between an obvious push by the christian moral right in this instance, you have been properly brainwashed.

try reading between the lines people....and pull some things out....
that's what i did my thread title....

freedom of speech....deal.

[YoungRemy]

relax Q, the article is interesting, your thread title is misleading is all(usually when you put quotation marks around a sentence that means someone actually said it)...

heres more fuel for your fire...

Abstinence-only education is one of the religious right's greatest challenges to the nation's sexual health. But it is only one tactic in a broader, longer-term strategy. Since the early 1980s, the "family values" movement has won the collaboration of governments and public institutions, from Congress to local school boards, in abridging students' constitutional rights. Schools now block student access to sexual health information in class, at the school library, and through the public library's Internet portals. They violate students' free speech rights by censoring student publications of articles referring to sexuality. Abstinence-only programs often promote alarmist misinformation about sexual health and force-feed students religious ideology that condemns homosexuality, masturbation, abortion, and contraception. In doing so, they endanger students' sexual health.

Waxman Report Identifies Misinformation in Abstinence-Only Curriculum

In 2004, Rep. Henry Waxman (D— CA), released a report about the state of abstinence-only sexuality education. The report found that the curricula used by more than two-thirds of government-funded abstinence-only programs contain misleading or inaccurate information about abortion, contraception, genetics, and sexually transmitted infections:

* The abstinence-only program Me, My World, My Future states, "Tubal and cervical pregnancies are increased following abortions." According to obstetric textbooks, previous abortions are not correlated with ectopic pregnancies (Cunningham, et al., 2001).

* Choosing the Best, The Big Talk Book states, "[R]esearch confirms that 14 percent of the women who use condoms scrupulously for birth control become pregnant within a year." In fact, when used correctly and consistently, only two percent of couples who rely on the latex condom as their primary form of contraception will experience an unintended pregnancy (Hatcher, et al., 2004).

* Why kNOw states, "Twenty-four chromosomes from the mother and 24 from the father join to create [a fetus]." Human cells are actually comprised of 46 chromosomes; 23 from each parent (Cunningham, et al., 2001).

* WAIT Training incorrectly states that HIV can be transmitted through tears and sweat. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), HIV is only transmissible through blood, semen, and vaginal secretions.

The Waxman Report also found that many abstinence-only curricula even go so far as to blur the line between religion and science, and treat gender stereotypes as scientific fact (Committee on Government Reform, 2004).

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/teensexualhealth/fact-abstinence-education.xml