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mca47
03-15-2005, 12:31 PM
I was going to post this the other day when I heard about it. I got an email that would explain it better than I could.

I know most of you don't give two shits about the environment but I decided I'd post it anyways. It is also from that evil John Kerry, so many of you have your minds made up to a) not read it because the guy is full of shit or b) Will read it and because it if from that asshole Kerry, try to deny and argue all of his claims (which is fine, but I'd suggest you open a textbook or do some research on your own about the issue. *Here comes a Google search :rolleyes: "

Dear Supporter,

We have only 24 to 48 hours to try and save the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

The Republicans are trying to sneak legislation through the Senate approving oil drilling and they are incredibly close to winning. We have to stop them.

I am joining with Senator Maria Cantwell (D-Washington) in offering a critical amendment to stop this sneak attack on our environment. We will fight on the floor of the Senate, but we need you by our side.

There are seven key Republican Senators whose votes will decide the future of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Before they vote, we need to make sure they know that their constituents are watching, and that they will not be able to support drilling without anybody noticing.

Here are two critical steps we can take together to support our amendment to protect this National Wildlife Refuge:

1. Join the Citizens' Roll Call
First of all, take part in a massive fast-moving display of citizen support for the Arctic Refuge. Sign our Cantwell-Kerry Citizens' Roll Call now.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

To make our Citizens' Roll Call impossible to ignore, we have alerted the media, environmental advocates and my fellow Senators to a scrolling display of the names and home towns of the roll call signers. It is posted on our johnkerry.com website, where we hope to soon add your name and a running tally of the number of citizens on our Citizens' Roll Call.

2. Bring the fight to the home states of the seven senators
We need to launch emergency online advertising campaigns in the home states of those seven critical senators: Senator Coleman (MN), Senator Smith (OR), Senator Specter (PA), Senator Martinez (FL), Senator Lugar (IN), and Senators Gregg and Sununu (NH).

We need your help to bring our Save the Arctic Refuge message home in these six states. Help us fund an emergency ad campaign to make sure they know how strongly the people they represent feel about protecting the Arctic. Please make an emergency donation right now.

http://contribute.johnkerry.com/

When Senator Cantwell, myself and other Senators stand up in support of the Cantwell-Kerry Amendment, we will have powerful arguments on our side. (I have recapped some of those arguments at the end of this email message)

But, to win, we need to be able to report directly to our Senate colleagues that massive numbers of citizens around the country - and in their own states - are rising up to demand that the Senate protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

That's why your immediate signature is so critical.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

The Bush Administration and its oil industry allies want to send a message that they can drill for oil wherever and whenever they want to - even if it means targeting a place as striking, pristine and irreplaceable as the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

They don't care about putting America on a genuine path to energy independence. If they did, they'd support efforts to increase energy conservation and to create clean, renewable sources of energy that no terrorist can sabotage and no foreign government can seize.

Let me be very direct with you. It is going to take an immediate and impossible-to-ignore display of grassroots support to stop them. That's why your decision to sign our Cantwell-Kerry Amendment Citizens' Roll Call is so crucial.

Thank you for acting quickly on this vital request.

John Kerry



P.S. Senator Cantwell, who comes from a state in the heart of the Pacific Northwest, has - at considerable political risk - courageously stepped forward to join me in leading this fight. We need you to help us win it.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

HERE ARE YOUR SAVE THE ARCTIC REFUGE TALKING POINTS
- The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge's 19 million acres comprise one of the last places on earth where an intact expanse of arctic and sub arctic lands remains protected.
- Drilling in the Arctic Refuge can't make even a small dent in meeting America's energy needs. U.S. Geological Survey scientists estimate that there is very likely only enough oil to supply America's needs for six months. And oil companies admit that, even that, won't be available for at least 10 years.
- An irreplaceable natural treasure, the Arctic Refuge is home to caribou, polar bears, grizzly bears, wolves, golden eagles, snow geese and more. Millions of other birds use the Arctic Refuge to nest and as a critical staging area on their migratory journeys.
- Of course, the Arctic Refuge supports more than wildlife. For a thousand generations, the Gwich'in people of Northeast Alaska and Northwest Canada have depended on it and lived in harmony with it. To them, the Arctic Coastal Plain is sacred ground.

ASsman
03-15-2005, 01:39 PM
Meh, it was bound to happen.

yeahwho
03-15-2005, 02:17 PM
Senator Cantwell kicks ass on a daily basis, I have been nothing but impressed by our Senators and newly elected Govenor here in Washington State.

Damn, I'm telling you folks, we are one politically charged part of the map, it makes life tolerable when you live in an area where old and young alike are saying STOP! (http://www.gendergappers.org/2003-005.htm), what's that sound, everybody look at what's going down.

yeahwho
03-16-2005, 05:56 PM
bad day for wildlife, we will soon encroach (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002209240_webanwr16.html) you with our brain powers.

Whois
03-16-2005, 06:42 PM
bad day for wildlife, we will soon encroach (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002209240_webanwr16.html) you with our brain powers.

I say let's set up drilling operations in Congress...fair is fair.

infidel
03-16-2005, 11:58 PM
All is not lost, my prediction is not a drop of oil ever comes out of ANWR. The public doesn't favor it, the oil companies don't favor it. The only ones who favor it are congressmen who are getting kick backs and vote trades by supporting it.
Besides the budget bill will need to pass for ANWR to pass, something that hasn't happened in two years and is likely not to happen this time round either.

ASsman
03-17-2005, 10:08 AM
IF it's cheaper than drilling off-shore or something, then it'll be done.

racer5.0stang
03-17-2005, 11:02 AM
If we went to Iraq for their oil, why am I paying $2 per gallon for 87 octane fuel?

yeahwho
03-17-2005, 11:06 AM
If we went to Iraq for their oil, why am I paying $2 per gallon for 87 octane fuel?

subsidizing halliburton (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=halliburton&btnG=Search+News) and they seem to be having some sort of skirmish keeping the middle east unstable, i'm starting to put the piece's of the puzzle together now, i'll get back to 'ya

ASsman
03-17-2005, 11:10 AM
87% Octane.

Hah, I pay 2.16-2.30 .

Whois
03-17-2005, 11:54 AM
Let's see...$87,000 in product...and we'll charge $27,000,000 in shipping...makes...A DAMM FINE PROFIT!

:rolleyes:

Iraqi is a money hole...get it?

ASsman
03-17-2005, 12:02 PM
Fuck the whales.

yeahwho
03-17-2005, 01:21 PM
I have to start looking at the "sunny :) side" of all this!


I expect we'll be shutting down the Saudi embassy and pulling our troops out of Iraq about a week after the first drops of sweet Alaska crude start flowing through the pipes.

mca47
03-17-2005, 04:11 PM
Well, those cocksuckers voted it through. Here was Kerry's response:


Dear Supporter,

Yesterday, we saw a relentless Republican attack on one of our most treasured natural wonders sneak through the Senate on a 51 to 49 vote. But, we also saw more than 260,000 Americans act in less than 24 hours to add their names to our Citizens' Roll Call in favor of protecting the Arctic Refuge.

It was the first time ever that I or anyone else could stand on the Senate floor and announce that, in a day's time, a quarter of a million Americans had gone online to express their passionate support for a given course of action.

That awesome display of grassroots power rattled our opponents. They even railed against my e-mail message on the Senate floor and entered its text into the Senate record. So, think of it this way. The Republican leaders of the Senate have 51 reasons to celebrate today, but you and I have 260,000 reasons to do the same.

If we keep working together - committed pro-environment Senators and a powerful grassroots movement all pulling in the same direction - we can still stop the plan for drilling in the Arctic from making it the rest of the way through Congress. And we can win the larger battle over two very different visions of America's energy future.

George W. Bush and the Washington Republicans have a plan to sell off our public lands to powerful special interests. As a result of their ruthless drive to undermine America's most beautiful natural treasures, the oil rigs are closer to the Arctic Refuge than they have ever been. But, the Bush administration's own scientists and economists admit that the Republicans' plan will not make us less dependent on foreign oil and will not lower prices at the pump. We have to put America's energy future in the hands of Americans - by inventing our way to real energy independence and having energy sources that create jobs and lower prices.

With your help, we will continue to wholeheartedly resist their special interest-funded partisan agenda. And, if we act with the same energy and determination as we have on this critical Arctic Refuge vote, sooner than later, our power and commitment will carry the day. I know you will be with me every step of the way and I thank you for the passion and energy that you bring to our work together.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

EN[i]GMA
03-20-2005, 06:28 PM
Well, those cocksuckers voted it through. Here was Kerry's response:


Dear Supporter,

Yesterday, we saw a relentless Republican attack on one of our most treasured natural wonders sneak through the Senate on a 51 to 49 vote. But, we also saw more than 260,000 Americans act in less than 24 hours to add their names to our Citizens' Roll Call in favor of protecting the Arctic Refuge.

It was the first time ever that I or anyone else could stand on the Senate floor and announce that, in a day's time, a quarter of a million Americans had gone online to express their passionate support for a given course of action.

That awesome display of grassroots power rattled our opponents. They even railed against my e-mail message on the Senate floor and entered its text into the Senate record. So, think of it this way. The Republican leaders of the Senate have 51 reasons to celebrate today, but you and I have 260,000 reasons to do the same.

If we keep working together - committed pro-environment Senators and a powerful grassroots movement all pulling in the same direction - we can still stop the plan for drilling in the Arctic from making it the rest of the way through Congress. And we can win the larger battle over two very different visions of America's energy future.

George W. Bush and the Washington Republicans have a plan to sell off our public lands to powerful special interests. As a result of their ruthless drive to undermine America's most beautiful natural treasures, the oil rigs are closer to the Arctic Refuge than they have ever been. But, the Bush administration's own scientists and economists admit that the Republicans' plan will not make us less dependent on foreign oil and will not lower prices at the pump. We have to put America's energy future in the hands of Americans - by inventing our way to real energy independence and having energy sources that create jobs and lower prices.

With your help, we will continue to wholeheartedly resist their special interest-funded partisan agenda. And, if we act with the same energy and determination as we have on this critical Arctic Refuge vote, sooner than later, our power and commitment will carry the day. I know you will be with me every step of the way and I thank you for the passion and energy that you bring to our work together.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

It's a shame I can't post pics on this forum.

Anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrSnuggleBunny/ANWRmap.jpg

OH THE FUCKING HUMANITY!! HOW WILL THOSE POOR ANIMALS SURVIVE!!?

Ace42
03-26-2005, 10:46 PM
http://www.theonion.com/wdyt/index.php?issue=4112

Qdrop
03-28-2005, 11:03 AM
oh, go ahead and fucking drill....
it won't fuck anything up.....that's just eco-liberal proganda.

"Now, we can conserve, and we've got to conserve. But this is a lot of oil, potentially, up there. Alaska has been producing about 25% of the total crude oil produced in the United States for the last almost 30 years. If there's an abundance of oil in A.N.W.R., it could be as much as what we would import from Saudi Arabia in 25 years. So this could be a very big thing. And it's in the national security interests, because an awful lot of what we do when we import oil is we send our dollars overseas to the Mid-East. And a lot of this funds terrorism. Make no mistake about it. We know where the funding is coming from. It's coming from oil." – Gov. Frank Murkowski

(i personally find that last part refreshing to hear....considering that Frank Murkowski is a REPUBLICAN governor)

whatever, use it...it's there.

i personally doubt that they will find the abundance of oil that the governor is hoping for...
it's all wishfull thinking.

i doubt it would be enough to get away from saudi oil supplies....let alone persian supplies.

but what we should be doing is putting ALOT more effort into devising and advancing RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES like nuclear and hydrogen....

and perhaps more research for the "out-there" theories on cold fussion, anti-matter, ect.

Alaska doesn't address our future needs....
it's so miopic.

Ace42
03-28-2005, 09:09 PM
and perhaps more research for the "out-there" theories on cold fussion,

Actually, the European test reactors have managed to get the power-output from fusion reactors to equal the power input, and this efficiency is increasing all the time.

Apparently planning for a proper reactor (rather than just a test-facility which is clearly not purpose built for modern, optimum power out-put) is under-way, where they hope to achieve a viable power-source.

baltogrl71
03-28-2005, 10:56 PM
I was going to post this the other day when I heard about it. I got an email that would explain it better than I could.

I know most of you don't give two shits about the environment but I decided I'd post it anyways. It is also from that evil John Kerry, so many of you have your minds made up to a) not read it because the guy is full of shit or b) Will read it and because it if from that asshole Kerry, try to deny and argue all of his claims (which is fine, but I'd suggest you open a textbook or do some research on your own about the issue. *Here comes a Google search :rolleyes: "

Dear Supporter,

We have only 24 to 48 hours to try and save the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

The Republicans are trying to sneak legislation through the Senate approving oil drilling and they are incredibly close to winning. We have to stop them.

I am joining with Senator Maria Cantwell (D-Washington) in offering a critical amendment to stop this sneak attack on our environment. We will fight on the floor of the Senate, but we need you by our side.

There are seven key Republican Senators whose votes will decide the future of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Before they vote, we need to make sure they know that their constituents are watching, and that they will not be able to support drilling without anybody noticing.

Here are two critical steps we can take together to support our amendment to protect this National Wildlife Refuge:

1. Join the Citizens' Roll Call
First of all, take part in a massive fast-moving display of citizen support for the Arctic Refuge. Sign our Cantwell-Kerry Citizens' Roll Call now.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

To make our Citizens' Roll Call impossible to ignore, we have alerted the media, environmental advocates and my fellow Senators to a scrolling display of the names and home towns of the roll call signers. It is posted on our johnkerry.com website, where we hope to soon add your name and a running tally of the number of citizens on our Citizens' Roll Call.

2. Bring the fight to the home states of the seven senators
We need to launch emergency online advertising campaigns in the home states of those seven critical senators: Senator Coleman (MN), Senator Smith (OR), Senator Specter (PA), Senator Martinez (FL), Senator Lugar (IN), and Senators Gregg and Sununu (NH).

We need your help to bring our Save the Arctic Refuge message home in these six states. Help us fund an emergency ad campaign to make sure they know how strongly the people they represent feel about protecting the Arctic. Please make an emergency donation right now.

http://contribute.johnkerry.com/

When Senator Cantwell, myself and other Senators stand up in support of the Cantwell-Kerry Amendment, we will have powerful arguments on our side. (I have recapped some of those arguments at the end of this email message)

But, to win, we need to be able to report directly to our Senate colleagues that massive numbers of citizens around the country - and in their own states - are rising up to demand that the Senate protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

That's why your immediate signature is so critical.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

The Bush Administration and its oil industry allies want to send a message that they can drill for oil wherever and whenever they want to - even if it means targeting a place as striking, pristine and irreplaceable as the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

They don't care about putting America on a genuine path to energy independence. If they did, they'd support efforts to increase energy conservation and to create clean, renewable sources of energy that no terrorist can sabotage and no foreign government can seize.

Let me be very direct with you. It is going to take an immediate and impossible-to-ignore display of grassroots support to stop them. That's why your decision to sign our Cantwell-Kerry Amendment Citizens' Roll Call is so crucial.

Thank you for acting quickly on this vital request.

John Kerry



P.S. Senator Cantwell, who comes from a state in the heart of the Pacific Northwest, has - at considerable political risk - courageously stepped forward to join me in leading this fight. We need you to help us win it.

http://www.johnkerry.com/RollCall

HERE ARE YOUR SAVE THE ARCTIC REFUGE TALKING POINTS
- The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge's 19 million acres comprise one of the last places on earth where an intact expanse of arctic and sub arctic lands remains protected.
- Drilling in the Arctic Refuge can't make even a small dent in meeting America's energy needs. U.S. Geological Survey scientists estimate that there is very likely only enough oil to supply America's needs for six months. And oil companies admit that, even that, won't be available for at least 10 years.
- An irreplaceable natural treasure, the Arctic Refuge is home to caribou, polar bears, grizzly bears, wolves, golden eagles, snow geese and more. Millions of other birds use the Arctic Refuge to nest and as a critical staging area on their migratory journeys.
- Of course, the Arctic Refuge supports more than wildlife. For a thousand generations, the Gwich'in people of Northeast Alaska and Northwest Canada have depended on it and lived in harmony with it. To them, the Arctic Coastal Plain is sacred ground.
Thank you for posting this I use to be really involved and then I got sidetracked by my crazy life, I am going to get involved again. Thanks

yeahwho
03-29-2005, 06:02 AM
Everything looks just fine on the surface, fools, all of us.

What have they done to the earth?
What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn
And tied her with fences and dragged her down
So when the music's over
When the music's over, yeah
When the music's over
Turn out the lights
Turn out the lights