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EU's China arms move faces delay (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4371361.stm)
The European Union may have to delay lifting its arms embargo on China, British official said on Tuesday.
They pointed to comments by British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who said China's passing of a law against Taiwan secession had made it "more difficult".
The arms ban, imposed after the 1989 Tiananmen massacre, was widely expected to be lifted later this year.
But the US has stepped up its criticism of the move, which it fears could fuel the arms race between China and Taiwan.
France and Germany are keen to lift the embargo and replace it with a strengthened code of conduct (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4329613.stm) on all EU arms sales.
Britain, which takes over the six month EU presidency on 1 July, has given its support in principle. But the BBC News Website's World Affairs correspondent, Paul Reynolds, says the British government now appears reluctant to have the embargo lifted while it is holding the EU presidency.
A decision during that time might embarrass British Prime Minister Tony Blair, a close ally of US President Bush, our correspondent says.
British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said at the weekend that the problems of lifting the embargo had recently become "more difficult rather than less difficult".
He said that Beijing's recent passage of a law allowing China to use military force against Taiwan if it moved towards declaring independence had created "a difficult political environment" that was complicating the lifting of the arms ban.
Ending her visit to Beijing on Monday, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Mr Straw's "sobering comments" reinforced Washington's concern that lifting the embargo would alter the balance of military forces in the region.
The US has always opposed the lifting of the ban, warning that China could embark on an arms-buying spree.
Because the US might help defend Taiwan in the event of an attack by China, it does not want anything to add to Chinese capabilities.
British officials denied US reports that the EU had already decided to put off consideration of lifting the embargo until next year. Hahahahaha the US will do ANYTHING to avoid a fair fight. Have you noticed that all the countries in the Axis of Evil are much smaller and less capable of defending themselves than other countries with equally nasty human rights records? I have.
On October 28, 2004 China's oil major, the Sinopec Group, signed an agreement with Iran worth between $70 billion and $100 billion to develop the giant Yadavaran natural-gas field. China agreed to buy 250 million tons of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Iran over 25 years. It is the largest deal Iran has signed with a foreign country since 1996 and will include several other benefits, including China's assistance in building numerous ships to deliver the LNG to Chinese ports. Iran also committed itself to exporting 150,000 barrels of crude oil per day to China for 25 years at market prices. more (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC19Ad05.html) I wonder how the Chinese are going to feel about this agreement being torn up and all their oil siphoned into US tankers when Iran gets 'Liberated'. I think they might just decide to defend their Iranian friends, just like GWB has pledged to defend Taiwan.
Iran's oil minister, Bijan Zanganeh, on a visit to Beijing noted that Iran is China's biggest foreign oil supplier and said his country wants to be China's long-term business partner. He told China Business Weekly that Tehran would like to replace Japan with China as the biggest customer for its oil and gas. The reason is obvious: US pressure on Iran to give up its nuclear-power development program and the Bush administration's declared intention to take Iran to the UN Security Council for the imposition of sanctions (which a Chinese vote could veto). On November 6, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing paid a rare visit to Tehran. In meetings with Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, Li said that Beijing would indeed consider vetoing any US effort to sanction Iran at the Security Council. The US has also charged China with selling nuclear and missile technology to Iran. hmmmmm looks like the US is picking a fight with somebody with a big, strong buddy to back them up.
Immediately after Bush's tour of Europe, the EU trade commissioner, Peter Mandelson, arrived in Beijing for his first official visit. The purpose of his trip, he said, was to stress the need to create a new strategic partnership between China and Europe. Hahahahaahahah backstabbing Brit! Straw condemning the lifting of the arms embargo and Mandleson sucking Chinese noodle!
China is certainly building a large fleet of nuclear submarines and is an active participant in the EU's Galileo Project to produce a satellite navigation system not controlled by the US military. Wooo hooo.
I'm not going to quote the entire article, otherwise you won't read it. Go here (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC19Ad05.html) and read the whole thing... very, very interesting indeed.
ASsman
03-22-2005, 10:17 AM
Mmm, arms.
Mmm, arms.Read the article (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC19Ad05.html) and let me know what you think.
ericg
03-22-2005, 01:29 PM
:D That's human nature and funny coming from the mouth of frog.
(lb)
Funkaloyd
03-22-2005, 06:10 PM
I still have faith in my government that it'll be responsible with its vast cache of arms
When was the last time that it was? Iran-Contra? Arming Hussein only to attack Hussein? Firing a dozen cruise missiles at a pharmaceutical plant in one of the worlds poorest nations?
Besides, that a populace shouldn't have faith in its government is one of the ideas which your nation was founded upon.
ASsman
03-22-2005, 06:11 PM
I didn't even bother responding to that post. But good job.
Whois
03-22-2005, 06:59 PM
When was the last time that it was? Iran-Contra? Arming Hussein only to attack Hussein? Firing a dozen cruise missiles at a pharmaceutical plant in one of the worlds poorest nations?
Besides, that a populace shouldn't have faith in its government is one of the ideas which your nation was founded upon.
Don't forget when we shot down that Iranian civilian airliner...high comedy.
SobaViolence
03-22-2005, 09:28 PM
fuck, i'm learning Cantonese.
That was way too long for me to read.But you responded anyway.
Maybe you should have gotten your mom to read it to you.
Or is she also illiterate.
Did anybody read it?
Any opinions?
My 0.02$: There won't be a war between the Chinese and the US, but there will be plenty of friction between China and her neighbours, who will be armed by the US, while the EU arms China.
Usual thing, the West getting rich from bloodshed caused by their meddling in other parts of the world.
Junker
03-23-2005, 07:42 AM
look, i know the world is messed up. But the truth is that it'll become worse and worse while Bush commands US.
Fuck you hick jackass!!!! back to your farm!!!!
ericg
03-23-2005, 07:58 AM
Case and point baby, case and point. Now that we've connected all the points here people, we can fill in the spaces... meaning all in affinity just need an umbrella to unite and stand under while we keep America grounded. There's criminal charges that need legal attention just to beign, and then the matter of getting straight the peoples' madate for the world! I hype about benign energy which would save so much... And even at the criminal's expense :D How do we unite and organize everybody... financially...etc... to positively energize this country and the world again... Why does'nt everybody get on with it? It means and matters to and for everything? Although I've found it, I still feel lost here even more so perhaps. Come on, not on the Beastie Boy's Web Site. ...---...
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 09:23 AM
Case and point baby, case and point. Now that we've connected all the points here people, we can fill in the spaces... meaning all in affinity just need an umbrella to unite and stand under while we keep America grounded. There's criminal charges that need legal attention just to beign, and then the matter of getting straight the peoples' madate for the world! I hype about benign energy which would save so much... And even at the criminal's expense :D How do we unite and organize everybody... financially...etc... to positively energize this country and the world again... Why does'nt everybody get on with it? It means and matters to and for everything? Although I've found it, I still feel lost here even more so perhaps. Come on, not on the Beastie Boy's Web Site. ...---...
it's like eric only talks in some form of scat/metaphor language.....
like some kind of reject from the 60's beatnick era....
"yo daddyo, be bop to the bo bop..and all that jazz.....postive energy is unity, you see...dig on this....dig on the light..and the world beat....bbmb is the sight to see....daddy o...."
ericg
03-23-2005, 09:35 AM
:rolleyes: Are you finished? For me, it's really just plain to see by the dawn's early light... :) If you have trouble with it, there's more where that came from. So tell me, can you see?
Why make a soap of it. It's so simple, I can't stand the confusion. And all you want to do is mock it... Please. Give me a break. How many will talk shit to death while the shit builds? It's inconcievable, incredible, and apparently in urgent need of plain explanation. The Beastie Boys got the words and expression wrapped up. We as a people need proper action to the heart and soul of our nation. Not more advocating factions balancing the confounded hell as is. Get it? Ya dig. Are you hip to my jive? Can I get some dap. Word up? Where's the love?
ericg
03-23-2005, 09:42 AM
You just don't know how to think in the right macro terms. You'd watch Jenny Jones and add to the shit on your side of the TV. It's a small world after all. Get it right in the first place. At this point, it takes the hard way. Whatever and so be it. You could have 10 Harvard degrees and I'd still be inclined to know more about the point of what it's all about.
"...Whywhy, because I got it like that..." -Jungle Brothers: On the Floor at the Boutique: Fatboy Slim
ericg
03-23-2005, 09:48 AM
"...So hide your eyes, wait, I saw you looking..."
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 09:49 AM
satta tay, cool blood, satta tay.
timmy ta on the runny side....word.
now ya dig on my worldly light shedding metaphors, my cool brutha. it is all in the beastie boys notations....with the unity wrapped in simma tow.
dig on that.....and dig on the truth.....dig to china.....my light filled bro.
can you accept what others cannot?...can you walk through the valley of BS with your truth boots on?...
i can...all with the truth can.... (y) (y)
satta tay....satta tow... :D (lb) (lb)
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 09:50 AM
"..and i got more hits then i was Rod Carew..."
ericg
03-23-2005, 09:59 AM
Now I'm just one person, and here on the BB site getting to the source of what I know best... They're the ones who paved the way, in all respects to the plainest of the piece ever found... Now you can dispute it, but you'd be better off taking their latest album to the head and getting your shit worked out right and true. I won't say it's not tough... My fortune has equal misfortune... like when so many's ignorance is their impermanent and confounded bliss. ......................... Just 'cause I bring ying, doesn't mean you need to bring the yang.
Make some damn sense fool, for real.
Your talking out your neck again. Try getting it up to your brain and working it out right first before it comes out of your mouth onto this web site. Your getting yourself all tangled and caught.
Just tried to help a man out.
ASsman
03-23-2005, 10:10 AM
Where are my donkey kong drums when I need them.
STFU crackhead. I have never seen anybody spew such an amount of complete gibberish. Edit: Not you Assman.
It seems that nobody's in the least bit concerned about what's going on in Asia. Why should you be? It's not your problem. Or is it? (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/555574.html)
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:11 AM
Fucking spammers never learn.
ASsman
03-23-2005, 10:13 AM
I bet ericq has some good reefer.
And as for the article, I'll finish reading it when I get back from a job interview. I have not the time now.
I bet ericq has some good reefer.
And as for the article, I'll finish reading it when I get back from a job interview. I have not the time now.Print it out... it's loooong. Good luck for the job interview, I hope they don't ever see your BBMB post count. :D
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:16 AM
while i walk in the valley of truth, you take the detour! (!) (!) :eek:
you must let the realness enter through you brain...and leak out yo ass!
satta tay! satta tow!
how can you attack if you have not weapons of the mind! for real, son.....you must alert your soul, or let it be corrupted by the fake that is all around us! (lb) (lb) wake up! and bring the knowledge to the table! speak the realness....and bring the unity. NOW IS THE TIME.... :eek: :eek:
mama say mama sa, amakusa!!..........
respect the BB site and the inner truth...while you sleep....i awake.... (!) (lb) (lb) ........
(jesus christ...this is tiring.....how does eric keep this up for so long?....
amazing.)
ASsman
03-23-2005, 10:17 AM
I'm gonna go Haiku on your asses.
I wake
In a puddle
Of my blood
tit-tat-titty-fuck
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:19 AM
I'm gonna go Haiku on your asses.
I wake
In a puddle
Of my blood
tit-tat-titty-fuck
BWAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!!!
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:20 AM
Ok. Thanks for the post there Ali. Wow, Israel. That's too bad. I don't know what you want to discuss exactly, all I know is that the Arms race wouldn't be such a problem these days if there was trust. Trust is knowing your fellow man is competant and reliable to rule well and pursue good initiatives. If certain objectives were reasoned by the major countries, and resources not squandered, we could live out MLK's dream. But Bush's 3rd Reich is leading this nation and the world has become malign over the decades.
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It just takes people... just people!!!!
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:24 AM
Q Drop, I can see your biting it pretty hard right now. Best of luck to you..
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:27 AM
Ok. Thanks for the post there Ali. Wow, Israel. That's too bad. I don't know what you want to discuss exactly, all I know is that the Arms race wouldn't be such a problem these days if there was trust. Trust is knowing your fellow man is competant and reliable to rule well and pursue good initiatives. If certain objectives were reasoned by the major countries, and resources not squandered, we could live out MLK's dream. But Bush's 3rd Reich is leading this nation and the world has become malign over the decades.
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HA! i knew it, you fuckin faker!!!
it was an all an act......you're perfectly capable of writing like a competant human being.
fucking fake ass bitch.
if you just communciated like this (like a fuckin mentally healthy human) the site wouldn't be so aligned against you.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:29 AM
Q Drop, I can see your biting it pretty hard right now. Best of luck to you..
and i can see you don't like getting called out on your own shit....
fuckin troll....
ASsman
03-23-2005, 10:31 AM
That's not a Haiku.
Thank you captain obvious.....
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:31 AM
and i can see you don't like getting called out on your own shit....
fuckin troll....
Nope, you're just biting. I've reined you up and ridden you raw since you got the audacity. I pity the fool.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:34 AM
Ok. Thanks for the post there Ali. Wow, Israel. That's too bad. I don't know what you want to discuss exactly, all I know is that the Arms race wouldn't be such a problem these days if there was trust. Trust is knowing your fellow man is competant and reliable to rule well and pursue good initiatives. If certain objectives were reasoned by the major countries, and resources not squandered, we could live out MLK's dream. But Bush's 3rd Reich is leading this nation and the world has become malign over the decades.
It just takes people... just people!!!!
the sad thing is....this post shows why you delibrately write in such incoherant psychobable: cause you have nothing to fucking SAY!
just canned rhettoric parroting other peoples sentiments.
yet you claim to think for yourself and to be "awake"....fuckin faker.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:35 AM
I pity the fool.
what are you....Mr. T now?
empty.
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:36 AM
You'll get broken, that's the Beastie law.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:37 AM
still empty.
i liked it better when you were pretending to be insane.
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:39 AM
I don't beat around the Bush Administration. Your jerkin's tapped you out, and cut you off. Don't keep puttin' your head out. Your a cut out paster trying to label. There's nothing original about you except for the played out sin you embrace 'cause your a sucker and probably won't know any better as long as Bush is in power.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 10:43 AM
now your making physical threats.......
that's great.
you have so much to say.
hey, i got an idea....let's just banter back and forth with petty insults for 3 more pages....
i'm sure everyone on this section would appreciate that....
ericg
03-23-2005, 10:45 AM
"...Slow down with I-me, got to stop stingin'. The source of the problem is at the origin. You've got lyrics that have got me cringin'. You're like a fish-wife quit your damn whingin'...IF YOU..."
Help me to put the peace into the puzzle.
I just got done reading a book called "The Hope" by Herman Wouk, about the Israel's Defenses and arms procurement for the fight to keep their Holy Land during the 40's through to the 60's... the 6-day war with Egypt, Syria, and the Russians was well documented, as well as the American position.. The story also appealed to me because of the love affairs behind the main characters which actually said volumes... I've always had a kinship with Israel just in a matter of feel. I won't try to explain it. It's too bad that they are in the shape they're in now.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 11:10 AM
you have a real weasely habit of going back and re-editing all of your posts long after the fact.....
especially after you get blazed.
what a coward.
racer5.0stang
03-23-2005, 11:11 AM
And as for the article, I'll finish reading it when I get back from a job interview.
Did you get the head cook position at Burger King?
ericg
03-23-2005, 11:14 AM
What? I've really had enough of you. And that's an understatement!
Your obfuscation and punked out slander is obvious. You're fooling yourself. Do you really want to keep going?
I think you lost the peace along time ago. Let's find it so you can see the whole picture.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 11:33 AM
What? I've really had enough of you. And that's an understatement!
the fuck you gonna do about it, eric?
make some more empty physical threats?
inundate me with some more of your contrived ,meandering diatribe?
Your obfuscation
this from ericg ?.....i don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 11:35 AM
Did you get the head cook position at Burger King?
he's working up to that.
kidding.
good luck, Ass....
ASsman
03-23-2005, 12:23 PM
Meh, close enough. UPS job, after many interviews for office/customer support type jobs. My going to school has fucked up my chances for a well paying white collar job.
Thank God , too.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 12:28 PM
Meh, close enough. UPS job, after many interviews for office/customer support type jobs.
dude, UPS is a pretty solid job, my man.
if you stay for a while, you get pretty sick pay and benefits.
My going to school has fucked up my chances for a well paying white collar job.
if i could do it again...i probably wouldn't have gone to big expensive universtity....
i got a good degree and great job and all that....but had to pay for it myself....and have an unbelievable amount of school loan debt that will likely take me till i'm 50 to pay off....if i ever do.
i wish i had just gone to a SUNY school or a trade school or something....i could be making the same or more with next to no loan debt.
ASsman
03-23-2005, 12:32 PM
Pff, naw I wasn't about ready to waste money on school. Not yet, I'm going to a community college now, for my first year or so. Get all the general education out of the way first. Then transfering out, with some money saved up.
Meh, the UPS job might turn out good. Move up the (blue collar equivalent of the corporate ladder) , and possibly fix the world.
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 12:52 PM
Pff, naw I wasn't about ready to waste money on school. Not yet, I'm going to a community college now, for my first year or so. Get all the general education out of the way first. Then transfering out, with some money saved up.
that's smart. wish i had.
Meh, the UPS job might turn out good. Move up the (blue collar equivalent of the corporate ladder) ,
dude, the blue collar workers at my plant routinely make more then me annually...with overtime and shit.
some of the 10 year veterans driving the forklifts make like $65,000/year.
and possibly fix the world.
what can Brown do for you?
ASsman
03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Heh, funny you say that. My Dad has been working as a forklift operator, and warehouse inventory, 45,000/yr.
Sure, with overtime. But that's not a steady flow of income. Also, work is crap, get stressed out more. More likely to get fired, since there isn't much skill involved in a lot of cases. Nothing that couldn't be aquired quickl.y
ericg
03-23-2005, 01:06 PM
the fuck you gonna do about it, eric?
I'm just going to have to watch you fall on your own sword.
Let's see what else is in the hat.
Here: I hope this helps you out.
"'I don't like your attitude boy'
What makes you feel And why you gotta' be Like you got the right To look her up and down What makes this world So sick and evil I know you don't know What makes you feel Like you got whip appeal Who made you the judge and jury Ain't you never heard of privacy What makes this world So sick and evil You figure it out You figure it out You figure it out..." -Anthology:Sounds of Science: Song for the man
"....Soba Violence it's true.... Soba Violence it's you.... Just tried to help a man out but he started breaking fool Goin' off on.... We were trying to help him out But he ended up kind of sore.... The man started swingin' wild It was real ill fated The shit wouldn't stop he said he wanted more of that..." -Soba Violence
"...Now who in the world do you want to fight It's against the system we should unite (do right).... Try to stay clear of that hate and spite So I keep my mind still like the still of night..." -Anthology: Sounds of Science: Alive
"...Tell me what makes you so afraid Of all those people you say you hate Just give it one time for your mind.... And let's try to negotiate.... 'Bet you're wondering what's been going on Bet you think I've almost lost my mind...'" -Hello Nasty: Negotiation Limerick File
"...Yeah. Hey Yo. This is a special dedication to all you backstabbers, bitin' MC's, scratching like you got fleas you know what I'm saying. Yo we're watching you son. We're up on the roof. Down in the cellar. Up in the crawl space. Listen fool, I've got my eye on you son. What? There's a party going on in here for real. I got more product than Ron Popeil. So deal with that troop, we're troopers. The only air time you get is on bloopers. Beastie Boys in the place up in the space. So renovate or evacuate. You better think twice before you start flossing. I been in your bathroom often and Lawson's often, too. Taking punk MC's out I'm all about. My to do list today is turn the party out. Getting hot in here. No room to breathe. I got my pen in my hand, so you best not sleep. No I'm not Herman Munster nor Dr. Spock. I go by the name of the King Adrock. So here's a match, my ass and your face. Listen when I tell you dog; I'M IN YOUR CRAWL SPACE.... You're in front of my house and you know that's wack. Bite my rhymes with a scanner from Radio Shack. You suckers try to front like you've got the force, but I'll slay like Vader, sip you for a first course. Don't even get me started on intercourse... AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! Don't step in my zone, or even periphery. Can't grab a hold of my style, it's too slippery. The way you act a fool, son, you can't erase. I'll have you running on your way like a steeple chase. You tried to take my title now put it back in place. But now you're busted wearing panties and lace. Stealing my style from my trophy case, but my drives secure like an army base. You're sneaking and peaking and trying to give chase, but you ain't ever gonna catch me; I'M IN YOUR CRAWL SPACE Schematics, blueprints and microfilm. Calibrate your sonar when I'm in your realm. 'Cause you know we're getting scarier and scarier. And this extends beyond the Tri-State Area. Omnipresent and omnipotent, my rhymes are whales and yours are rodents. This means huge compared to very small. You look a little chilly, can I get you a shawl? 'Cause these rhymes are 200 proof. They're like anvils lined up on a roof, waiting to drop on your corny melon. 'Cause we're not buying what you're selling. First you want to battle, then you start to whine. You're looking hungry, it must be your snack time. So run home where you feel safe. But don't sleep, Cochese; I'M IN YOUR CRAWL SPACE..." -TO THE 5 BUROUGHS: Crawl Space
ericg
03-23-2005, 01:15 PM
I worked in Pre sorting a long time ago. And also assisted with Christmas time deliveries. Hope all works out for you. It can be stressful, but normally there's relatively good people there to work with, and of course the union... Good excercise too. Stay in school. (y) :)
Oh, and I hope China doesn't get any more weapons!
Qdrop
03-23-2005, 01:34 PM
^ look at the differance between those 2 posts.
what a wierdo.
eric with his beastie boys quotes has become like Racer with his bible quotes: overdone and out of context.
ericg
03-23-2005, 02:49 PM
Funny you should say. Who are you talking to? You should take life seriously. There's always more.
ericg
03-24-2005, 11:05 AM
(!) Why you fallin' out? Were you dismissed? Come heeerre (!)
"... A no time like the present to work shit out That's what we're going on and on and on about.... So now I wonder how sometimes you never know.... Until your backs up against the wall You never know yourself that much at all.... You gotta' have dreams to make it all worth while So as I take my time and realign" -Hello Nasty: The Move
"... I didn't touch your hand man you know it's all ball.... I've got billions and billions of rhymes to flex..." -TO THE 5 BUROUGHS: HEY FUCK YOU
"...Kickin' lyrics right to your brain.... I got some words that apply to us.... I'm beautiful you can't touch me. If you pick a rose, well, you might just bleed. We're originators. You can't feign ignorance or pass the blame.... WE'RE GONNA BRING YOU UP TO SPEED..." -TO THE 5 BUROUGHS: TRIPLE TROUBLE
"...Coming from Uranus to check my style...." -Hello Nasty: Intergalactic
"...So go and talk shit 'cause it just makes me strong..." -Hello Nasty: Putting Shame In Your Game
If you wanna be on this site you ought to know a little somethin'... in order to change..!!!
Why you wanna be so foul and act a fool? That'll get you banned... for good I imagine! Always up for more deliberations if you got the itch, b.
Qdrop
03-24-2005, 11:25 AM
^
dude, seriously.....how much longer before you die?
ericg
03-24-2005, 12:06 PM
It's OK to count the minutes... You never know how many there really are.
"...Check a check it..."
"...This is a living dream from the Beastly Brothers..."
Just. Take. Care...of it!
Ali, I'm not going to read it. It's too long and I'm sure I get the idea. I take back my jab at the French, as I've decided you're not French, but more likely British. Perhaps you should take an objective look at your political and cultural beliefs because your obvious hatred of the USA is inhibiting your ability to see things objectively. You're no better than the crackpots on the far right as you've already made up your mind (USA=bad). I don't hate the USA and I'm British by birth, but my allegiance is further South of the planet (and I like France and the French, too). I don't hate the US or Americans. I believe that your country has the capacity to truly bring peace to the world. Unfortunately, the people running your country are deeply influenced by Big Business, due to a major flaw in your political system - campaign contributions. Greed is the motivation and its effects are felt world-wide.
Anyway, do yourself a favour and read the article (http://nerve.fugacious.net/drf/archives/000859.html). Please. It's not more left-wing tripe (I am as suspicious of the radical Left as I am of the radical Right, when it comes to spinning the truth). It's written by somebody who knows what he's talking about and doesn't let personal feelings get in the way of the facts. If he does criticise the US's policies towards the Far East, it's based on observation of the facts and not opinion.
The last paragraph pretty much sums it up: Why should China's emergence as a rich, successful country be to the disadvantage of either Japan or the United States? History teaches us that the least intelligent response to this development would be to try to stop it through military force. As a Hong Kong wisecrack has it, China has just had a couple of bad centuries and now it's back. The world needs to adjust peacefully to its legitimate claims - one of which is for other nations to stop militarizing the Taiwan problem - while checking unreasonable Chinese efforts to impose its will on the region. Unfortunately, the trend of events in East Asia suggests we may yet see a repetition of the last Sino-Japanese conflict, only this time the US is unlikely to be on the winning side.
ericg, perhaps you should post less.Word. If you haven't anything intelligent to say, then quit posting on threads which try to elicit an intelligent dialogue.
ASsman
03-25-2005, 09:21 AM
I couldn't have said it better myself.
ericg
03-25-2005, 11:01 AM
ericg, perhaps you should post less.
As long as suckers keep trying to get over... with half-baked excuses to parse idley here while people die for oil ... I'll be around to dull you down.
"...When we board your ship, you better hit the deck You'll walk the plank for your dis Respect, respect, respect.... If you front on the Rock, best run and hide If you got static, we'll take it outside.... And you start to get dulled by the Beastie Boys.... Some people say this has been done We're here we're now And the battles won.... Not before long I can hear you say In a way these boys got juice..." -Aglio E Olio: Rock Hard
"...Now don't start fessin your on the check We're so damn hard we never sweat..." -A.E.O.: Beastie Groove
"...Ah people say this is the playlist of the void non-bound But I can say this is the plainness of the peace I've found..." -Hello Nasty: Electrify
If all you've got, AT THIS POINT, is that... America could but for corporate corruption... well, welcome... "...Hello Nasty where you been..." It's more than I can say for alot of people... but the world's in worse shape than you seem prepared enough to imagine or acknowledge. I expected more from this site. Alot more. Not people so badly in need of tips that they can't think for themselves enough to have a solution or two at least. I most definitely have got to tell... I'm not perfect by any means... well, that's not true... :D I've always only been here advocating well..., and have only gotten shit back from you people, so don't think you sayin' that is some great revolution of the mind, even though for many it is... and that's why I've said a little somethin' about it.
...Should've checked the facts once and for all... Ages and ages and ages and ages and ages and ages and ages.. a...go!!!!!
ericg
03-25-2005, 05:06 PM
Someone has got to keep track of the record (Beside the Beasties) in good stead...
I recommend Check Your Head: track 18.
Sample: "...fuckin' bump..."
Allow me to digress :D
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