what happened to rap music???

[Junker]

I dont know if its just to me. But it seems that every passed day new "artists" (???) emerge throwing shit lyrics at us listeners like we dont deserve anything better. This artists just made songs talking about being bad, being the man, talking about money and cars and power, etc, etc, bla bla bla.
I miss the days where hip hop was purely poetry with creativity lyrics with good messages and amazing beats. Hip Hop is becoming Hip Pop. I really dont want this. Thats why sometimes the Beasties are discriminated. Cause they arent mainstream. They dont do what mass want. They do what good listeners like them want. And this good music lovers are generally their fans. And please you need to comeback soon: Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul, Zac de La Rocha, and a lotta other real hip hop artists (feel free to add someone too)

Die to 50 cents out there, Ludacris, DMX, Ja Rule, D12 (Eminem could stay), and a lot of other guys who think they are MC's (feel free to add someone too, again).

Peace out ya'll!!!!!

[Mr.Right]

Just don't listen to them?

[Junker]

Just don't listen to them?

Man, im not concerned about me. I wont start listen to them. Im concerned with rap music which is something bigger than me.

What you said is just useless. But thanks anyway!

PS: Are you a hip hop rookie or you just dont know what hip hop means???

[Mr.Right]

That's just my opinion about these new "artists".

It's kinda useless to complain about them and their shitty music, because they won't change or stop anyway, will they?

[Junker]

That's just my opinion about these new "artists".

It's kinda useless to complain about them and their shitty music, because they won't change or stop anyway, will they?

I dont think they'll stop. But for sure they'll vanish soon like always happen to this kind of "artists". And im not complaining to try to change something. I know this will never happen. My intention in this MB is manifest my opinion about things in general.

[J-Syxx]

Ludicris is good man. Sure I wanted to smack him for doing the Fast 2 Furious song, but his flows ain't no joke. Everyone else, yea they suck. You probably need to buy a Count Bass D or MF Doom album. That may help you forget how wack things are. Basically what happened to rap is that it was high-jacked by the major labels. They will only allow the kind of rap they think will make them money, and there will always be bitches who will bow down to them in order to temporarily line their pockets and get their asses laid. Thats what happened. The A&Rs stole the creativity from hip hop, and made it their slave.

[PaddyBoy]

Ludicris is good man. Sure I wanted to smack him for doing the Fast 2 Furious song, but his flows ain't no joke. Everyone else, yea they suck. You probably need to buy a Count Bass D or MF Doom album. That may help you forget how wack things are. Basically what happened to rap is that it was high-jacked by the major labels. They will only allow the kind of rap they think will make them money, and there will always be bitches who will bow down to them in order to temporarily line their pockets and get their asses laid. Thats what happened. The A&Rs stole the creativity from hip hop, and made it their slave.

Exactly. But there is shitloads of great hip-hop out there to listen to regardless. And everything released before the early 90's is guaranteed golden. Other stuff I've started listening to recently: Big L, Getto Boys, Big Daddy Kane, Audio Two, Whodini, Mobb Deep, etc. All great stuff and lots more to go.

And the Beastie Boys ARE mainstream, they're mainstream and good.

[alexandra]

it got horny and materialistic.

[Junker]

Ludicris is good man. Sure I wanted to smack him for doing the Fast 2 Furious song, but his flows ain't no joke. Everyone else, yea they suck. You probably need to buy a Count Bass D or MF Doom album. That may help you forget how wack things are. Basically what happened to rap is that it was high-jacked by the major labels. They will only allow the kind of rap they think will make them money, and there will always be bitches who will bow down to them in order to temporarily line their pockets and get their asses laid. Thats what happened. The A&Rs stole the creativity from hip hop, and made it their slave.

Well.....i should edit Ludacris. Hes quite good tough. And think i agree with your point of view.

[Junker]

Exactly. But there is shitloads of great hip-hop out there to listen to regardless. And everything released before the early 90's is guaranteed golden. Other stuff I've started listening to recently: Big L, Getto Boys, Big Daddy Kane, Audio Two, Whodini, Mobb Deep, etc. All great stuff and lots more to go.

And the Beastie Boys ARE mainstream, they're mainstream and good.

Could you give more names of the recently good hip hop? I just know Big Daddy Kane, Audio Two, Whodini (not that recently) that you wrote before.

What about Beasties Mainstream. Could the beastie boys really be mainsream? i mean, not everybody listen to them. They appear a lot on the media when they release something. But, as you said, cause theyre good. Not cause theyre pop.

[cerveza]

well rap is the current pop
thank god
and although some of the new "rap"
artists suck hardd, its better than hearing
backstreet boys and brittney spears all over the place

[Junker]

well rap is the current pop
thank god
and although some of the new "rap"
artists suck hardd, its better than hearing
backstreet boys and brittney spears all over the place

If you compare rap with pop for sure listen to hip pop is better than britney or faggetstreet boys. But what im worried about is exactly the hip hop becoming pop. Is this good? is this bad? I dont know. Personally I prefered when the hip hop was more underground.

[Extra Cheese]

either get over it or just dont listen to it. people like you are so fucking annoying with your constant whining about "rap music sucks", "you should listen to real hip-hop", and your "theres no more good rap music" bullshit.

fucking damn already!!! that shit gets tired and most of the time the people crying over current rap music are in love with equally lame and garbage rappers.

[PaddyBoy]

Could you give more names of the recently good hip hop? I just know Big Daddy Kane, Audio Two, Whodini (not that recently) that you wrote before.

What about Beasties Mainstream. Could the beastie boys really be mainsream? i mean, not everybody listen to them. They appear a lot on the media when they release something. But, as you said, cause theyre good. Not cause theyre pop.

I suppose Mf Doom, Jeru the Damaja, Gangstarr, KRS-One, Masta Ace, all the Wu-Tang group and solo stuff, Jay-Z's last album was good, NWA, Handsome Boy Modelling School, DJ Shadow, DJ Quik, Jungle Brothers. Kanye West.

Most of that stuff is mainstream, but good. Other folks round here would have more hip-hop knowledge than me.

[mickill]

either get over it or just dont listen to it. people like you are so fucking annoying with your constant whining about "rap music sucks", "you should listen to real hip-hop", and your "theres no more good rap music" bullshit.

fucking damn already!!! that shit gets tired and most of the time the people crying over current rap music are in love with equally lame and garbage rappers.

I think it's scary that I've agreed with you twice in like a week.

Rap has always encouraged sexist attitudes, materialism, violence and excessive partying. Nothing new there.

[Junker]

I think it's scary that I've agreed with you twice in like a week.

Rap has always encouraged sexist attitudes, materialism, violence and excessive partying. Nothing new there.

Yeah, right!!!!

[cj hood]

hip hop
1978-1992

[Gareth]

either get over it or just dont listen to it. people like you are so fucking annoying with your constant whining about "rap music sucks", "you should listen to real hip-hop", and your "theres no more good rap music" bullshit.

fucking damn already!!! that shit gets tired and most of the time the people crying over current rap music are in love with equally lame and garbage rappers.

exactly

edit:

[J-Syxx]

I think it's scary that I've agreed with you twice in like a week.

Rap has always encouraged sexist attitudes, materialism, violence and excessive partying. Nothing new there.
Yea, but it didn't use to sound like a horse farting either. I can understand getting tired of complaining, but playing the devil's advoacte is just as bad.

[ASsman]

I
Rap has always encouraged sexist attitudes, materialism, violence and excessive partying. Nothing new there.
I hate black people too.

[Sandinista!]

I hate black people too.

Your sarcasm slays me.

Anyhoo, newness + hipitty-hop= (n)

[RT400z]

I dont know if its just to me. But it seems that every passed day new "artists" (???) emerge throwing shit lyrics at us listeners like we dont deserve anything better. This artists just made songs talking about being bad, being the man, talking about money and cars and power, etc, etc, bla bla bla.
I miss the days where hip hop was purely poetry with creativity lyrics with good messages and amazing beats. Hip Hop is becoming Hip Pop. I really dont want this. Thats why sometimes the Beasties are discriminated. Cause they arent mainstream. They dont do what mass want. They do what good listeners like them want. And this good music lovers are generally their fans. And please you need to comeback soon: Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul, Zac de La Rocha, and a lotta other real hip hop artists (feel free to add someone too)

Die to 50 cents out there, Ludacris, DMX, Ja Rule, D12 (Eminem could stay), and a lot of other guys who think they are MC's (feel free to add someone too, again).

Peace out ya'll!!!!!


Why does Eminem get to stay? I don't mind DMX and Ludacris at times. I think 50 Cent is possibly the worst rapper I've ever heard. I can't even comprehend why people like his music.

[alexandra]

hip hop
1978-1992
i'm gonna print that on a t-shirt, with "r.i.p." on the top.

[Junker]

Why does Eminem get to stay? I don't mind DMX and Ludacris at times. I think 50 Cent is possibly the worst rapper I've ever heard. I can't even comprehend why people like his music.

Well, lately Eminem is too repetitive. But i cant take him off cause i dont have how to deny the guy has talent. I think he would have a big battle with Busy B or Koe Moe Dee (hahahaha.....do I force a little bit here or dont?)

[Junker]

i'm gonna print that on a t-shirt, with "r.i.p." on the top.

hahahahaha......thats true. But not so true cause we still have some remaining as the beasties.

[cj hood]

i'm gonna print that on a t-shirt, with "r.i.p." on the top.


good call.......i was actually gonna go back and add the r.i.p........make sure add cj hood to the bottom of the shirt as a footnote

[alexandra]

good call.......i was actually gonna go back and add the r.i.p........make sure add cj hood to the bottom of the shirt as a footnote
i'll make the whole "Originally Posted by".

[cj hood]

i'll make the whole "Originally Posted by".

giddy up

[PaddyBoy]

giddy up

Kramer?

[Bobtwi]

George?

[Kid Presentable]

Newman!

[A. Remin' D.]

Hel-lo! Uncle Leo!

[p-branez]

freal dude, half the shit now like luda, 50 cent and jayz is better than the 'i'm so cool becuase i listen to underground shit' like esoteric and sage francis.

[pshabi]

Ludicris is good man. Sure I wanted to smack him for doing the Fast 2 Furious song, but his flows ain't no joke. Everyone else, yea they suck. You probably need to buy a Count Bass D or MF Doom album. That may help you forget how wack things are. Basically what happened to rap is that it was high-jacked by the major labels. They will only allow the kind of rap they think will make them money, and there will always be bitches who will bow down to them in order to temporarily line their pockets and get their asses laid. Thats what happened. The A&Rs stole the creativity from hip hop, and made it their slave.
I second this. I'm really not down for any of this music at all, but I admit that Luda has skillz. He can switch it up with the best of them. Also, I'm sure Moe Dee would give him an "A" for sticking to themes. 2fast2furious was 2fuckingstupid but his flows are good and he's got originality and talent and I think he's down to earth.

[ASsman]

freal dude, half the shit now like luda, 50 cent and jayz is better than the 'i'm so cool becuase i listen to underground shit' like esoteric and sage francis.
WTF are you talking about.

[A. Remin' D.]

freal dude, half the shit now like luda, 50 cent and jayz is better than the 'i'm so cool becuase i listen to underground shit' like esoteric and sage francis.

What the fuck supercop? I myself listen to older and underground rap, just because it's better, not so I think I'm cool. Though I do think I'm cool. :cool:

[ASsman]

You're cool.

[A. Remin' D.]

You're cool.

Thanks. (y) Since I'm cool, and I think you're cool too.

[ASsman]

Want to have a mutual masterbation session?

... Moving too fast? I know... I understand.

[A. Remin' D.]

Want to have a mutual masterbation session?

... Moving too fast? I know... I understand.

Whut n da heell iz yo prob'm beitch?

[ASsman]

I guess that's a no.

[A. Remin' D.]

Yeah, I'm just not into that kinda thang. Unless you're an Asswoman?

[K-nowledge]

I dont know if its just to me. But it seems that every passed day new "artists" (???) emerge throwing shit lyrics at us listeners like we dont deserve anything better. This artists just made songs talking about being bad, being the man, talking about money and cars and power, etc, etc, bla bla bla.
I miss the days where hip hop was purely poetry with creativity lyrics with good messages and amazing beats. Hip Hop is becoming Hip Pop. I really dont want this. Thats why sometimes the Beasties are discriminated. Cause they arent mainstream. They dont do what mass want. They do what good listeners like them want. And this good music lovers are generally their fans. And please you need to comeback soon: Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul, Zac de La Rocha, and a lotta other real hip hop artists (feel free to add someone too)

Die to 50 cents out there, Ludacris, DMX, Ja Rule, D12 (Eminem could stay), and a lot of other guys who think they are MC's (feel free to add someone too, again).

Peace out ya'll!!!!!

Dude! I do not know how long you have been listening to hip-hop (or rap, or whatever) but it has always been about the money, the bitches, the cars. Especially back in the day. Fortunatly, there are rappers that don't rely on those lyrics to sell thier records. And there are the ones that do. And they will always be there. It's a style of hip-hop. Some are good at it and most are bad at it.

[A. Remin' D.]

Dude! I do not know how long you have been listening to hip-hop (or rap, or whatever) but it has always been about the money, the bitches, the cars. Especially back in the day. Fortunatly, there are rappers that don't rely on those lyrics to sell thier records. And there are the ones that do. And they will always be there. It's a style of hip-hop. Some are good at it and most are bad at it.

Yeah, it has always been about material things. I've been listening to hip hop ever since I was little bambino, but I guess I've always been more into the rap about knowledge. I do like some party-rap too, but not as much.

[like2_drink]

flava flav happened to rap. :rolleyes:

[tdot04]

flava flav happened to rap. :rolleyes:

yeah boi? :eek:

[like2_drink]

yeah boi? :eek:
FLAVA FLAAAAV


i mean seriously, when he started " spittin " the " rhymes " who could stand up to that?

[tdot04]

FLAVA FLAAAAV


i mean seriously, when he started " spittin " the " rhymes " who could stand up to that?

yo, like2_drink, were Flava Flav's rhymes that tight?

Don't believe the hype.

[J-Syxx]

Who gives a shit, hes Flava Flav. Hes got more hip hop in his asshole than you have in your entire body. His songs were always good relief from Chuck's verbal assault.

[Junker]

Dude! I do not know how long you have been listening to hip-hop (or rap, or whatever) but it has always been about the money, the bitches, the cars. Especially back in the day. Fortunatly, there are rappers that don't rely on those lyrics to sell thier records. And there are the ones that do. And they will always be there. It's a style of hip-hop. Some are good at it and most are bad at it.

But at the moment i dont see too many artists making records not talking about money, bitches, cars. I mean, people are using hip hop to make money. They dont give a shit about the culture, about the history of hip hop. I know want the end of this shit is an utopia. But what can I expect from a world that became totally controlled by the capitalism?? Well, i can expect the worse.

[PaddyBoy]

Hel-lo! Uncle Leo!

Best scene ever:

The sales woman lets George in.

SALES WOMAN: Right this way, Mr. Vandelay.

GEORGE: Well, this is a lovely apartment. Lovely! My kids are gonna go crazy. I, uh, I wonder if I could see the bathrooms. Preferably one with some paint thinner and, uh, some rags?

SALES WOMAN: It's down the hall.

George walks to the bathroom, but stops when he sees Jerry.

JERRY: Oh, hello...

GEORGE: Art.

JERRY: Mr. Vandelay, of course.

SALES WOMAN: You two know each other?

Kramer bursts through the door.

SALES WOMAN: Mr. Pennypacker!

KRAMER: Uh, yes, uh, I--I wanted to, uh, stop by and make sure that my shark tank fits-- uh, hello.

SALES WOMAN: Mr. Pennypacker, this is Mr. Vandelay, And you know Mr. Varnsen

KRAMER: Uh, Varnsen.

JERRY: Pennypacker.

KRAMER: Vandelay.

GEORGE: Pennypacker. Varnsen.

JERRY: Vandelay. Wait a second. Mr. Pennypacker, if you're here, and Mr. Vandelay is also here, then who's watching the factory?

KRAMER: The factory?

JERRY: The Saab factory?

KRAMER: Jerry, that's in Sweden.

Brilliant!!

I should really start a new Seinfeld thread in BF but fuck it.

[alexandra]

i'll never change my avatar now.

[ASsman]

IMO, you can make your party tracks, whatever. But if you wan't to be seen with some credibility, put your dick away and make some proper tracks too.

[A. Remin' D.]

Best scene ever:

The sales woman lets George in.

SALES WOMAN: Right this way, Mr. Vandelay.

GEORGE: Well, this is a lovely apartment. Lovely! My kids are gonna go crazy. I, uh, I wonder if I could see the bathrooms. Preferably one with some paint thinner and, uh, some rags?

SALES WOMAN: It's down the hall.

George walks to the bathroom, but stops when he sees Jerry.

JERRY: Oh, hello...

GEORGE: Art.

JERRY: Mr. Vandelay, of course.

SALES WOMAN: You two know each other?

Kramer bursts through the door.

SALES WOMAN: Mr. Pennypacker!

KRAMER: Uh, yes, uh, I--I wanted to, uh, stop by and make sure that my shark tank fits-- uh, hello.

SALES WOMAN: Mr. Pennypacker, this is Mr. Vandelay, And you know Mr. Varnsen

KRAMER: Uh, Varnsen.

JERRY: Pennypacker.

KRAMER: Vandelay.

GEORGE: Pennypacker. Varnsen.

JERRY: Vandelay. Wait a second. Mr. Pennypacker, if you're here, and Mr. Vandelay is also here, then who's watching the factory?

KRAMER: The factory?

JERRY: The Saab factory?

KRAMER: Jerry, that's in Sweden.

Brilliant!!

I should really start a new Seinfeld thread in BF but fuck it.

Ah yes, I remember that. :D Gotta love Seinfeld.

[Bobtwi]

Yeah, it has always been about material things. I've been listening to hip hop ever since I was little bambino, but I guess I've always been more into the rap about knowledge. I do like some party-rap too, but not as much.
Yea it was allways about material things but it was fresh,new back in the day.I wont ever put any of these newschool artists down for this but they just dont compare to the oldschool ones.There style and dilivery are wack.Ther's no comparison to RUN-D.M.C to Fifty cent.Fiddy couldnt carry Revrend Runs mic stand!These new jack artists are the lucky ones who have come along when the rap scene is a gold mine.Its like comparing Mike Schmidt to Sammy Sosa.

[goofball]

freal dude, half the shit now like luda, 50 cent and jayz is better than the 'i'm so cool becuase i listen to underground shit' like esoteric and sage francis.

what?
youre nuts, you cant be hatin on sage, hes way better than any mainstream rap artists at the moment.

[J-Syxx]

I don't even listen to the dude, but Sage would eat most of today's MCs alive.

[ET]

Did somebody already do the 'OMG STFU!' reply? Yeah? Okay, good.

[ScarySquirrel]

Let's all sit around in a circle jerk and reminisce about the good ol' days of hip-hop and complain about shit that everybody's said a million times already here! That sounds like a good idea to me!

[HEIRESS]

My mom watched fiddy's "candy shop" video the other day, and then phoned me at work just to say "I hope that 50 cent guy's dick falls off"

(y)

[p-branez]

the new 50 song is good - hate it or love it.

and sage francis sucks. seriously.

[J-Syxx]

Hes still more of an MC than 50 Cent. His battle record is really good.

[HEIRESS]

my mom never commented on the quality of the song directly or whether she felt it was too superficial and unoriginal

but her wanting fiddys penie to fall off had some connotations attacted to it that I cannot deny

[HEIRESS]

the new 50 song is good - hate it or love it.

and sage francis sucks. seriously.

His demi-cover of "can I kick it" is a beautiful thing

and I cannot deny the song "majority rule" for some reason
it has a weird thing to do with the line:
"In the future, scientists will prove that we never even existed"
just hits my brain in the right way or something

[EN[i]GMA]

DJ Format, MC Abdominal and some white guy are here to save hip-hop: http://www.djformat.com/media.cfm?mediaprocess=video&playfile=90&usepagename=

[Junker]

it has a weird thing to do with the line:
"In the future, scientists will prove that we never even existed"
just hits my brain in the right way or something

I see this line as a try to sound intelligent, cult, intelectual. What's he trying to say anyway???

[HEIRESS]

what the hell are you trying to say in this thread? is more the proper question

[Junker]

what the hell are you trying to say in this thread? is more the proper question

Well, since I initiate the thread with my opinion, I believe i've already said this.
Please read the first post.

[HEIRESS]

oh I read it, and it makes no sense
you generalized and categorized like a villan and ended up looking like an ass so Im still trying to figure out your purpose in creating this thread other than a chance for you to be entirely negative and narrow-minded

[Junker]

oh I read it, and it makes no sense
you generalized and categorized like a villan and ended up looking like an ass so Im still trying to figure out your purpose in creating this thread other than a chance for you to be entirely negative and narrow-minded

Well, if I generalized I'm sorry. But I think you should have read the entire post cause in previews pages I askd for current hip hop names. And my purpose was to see if someone share my opinion. I'll make myself a little bit more clear: what I was trying to say is that nowadays a lotta "artists" are appearing in the "hip hop"(?) scene just to make money. And they are all the same. They make the exactly same kind of music. They dont add nothing special in music. Their songs arent creative. When you hear the beasties you atomatically feel the difference. What I was trying to say is that these "artists" should .................... DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lionelcrush]

hip hop just like every genre of music on the whole sux nowadays .. but if ur the kind of person who can pick out the best it dosent matter cuz ur definetly listning to the best music .. but alotta hip hop now is missing creativity the beats r generic and id rather listen to the b boys cuz they present there beats like rock songs with all different parts in em to its not just the same beat the whole time but ghostface and rza r on top of their shit right now everything else has to step up alittle

[Sandinista!]

hip hop just like every genre of music on the whole sux nowadays ..


Spoken like a true man; good music died after 1989.

[ASsman]

Apparently you as a fetus survived.

[NY-Lady]

Rap today = SHIT!

[ASsman]

Heh, don't tire yourself by writing something worth reading.

[dave790]

De la Soul

Didn't they recently release a new record? Haven't heard it though.

Anyway from Stake's Is High...

I'm sick of bitches shakin' asses
I'm sick of talkin' about blunts
Sick of Versace glasses
Sick of slang
Sick of half-ass awards shows
Sick of name brand clothes
Sick of R&B bitches over bullshit tracks
Cocaine and crack Which brings sickness to blacks
Sick of swoll' head rappers
With their sicker-than raps
Clappers and gats
Makin' the whole sick world collapse T
he facts are gettin' sick
Even sicker perhaps
Stickabush to make a bundle to escape this synapse

[J-Syxx]

You should ber slapping yourself for not buying the new De La Soul album.

[Junker]

You should ber slapping yourself for not buying the new De La Soul album.

I think I should.....