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Beth
03-29-2005, 09:41 PM
have you ever had any weird orbs in your photos? bobby and i were looking at photos we took of him and the kids, and on one of them i noticed a huge weird orb on noelle's head, and 2 orbs on bobby's shirt. so we carefully went through all the photos, and the orbs showed up for approximately 5 minutes worth of photos, and then there were no more. they showed up in a photo taken with his camera as well.

in sequence:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs4.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs5.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs6.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs7.jpg

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 09:45 PM
If I may, I believe that this photography issue has a few possibilities.

1) Lens-could be cracks/malfunction
2)Ghosts-depends on if you believe
3)Light-the way it hits the lens/other objects
4)Film-possibility of the film having these thingies already on them, and when the pics were developed, they showed up.

Hope I helped.

Beth
03-29-2005, 09:46 PM
since we were looking at photos the day after they were taken, we decided to experiment. there were no orbs in the room until bobby got in the photo. when i was in the photo, there were none.

in sequence:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/noorbs.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs8.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/noorbs2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs9.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs10.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs11.jpg

like2_drink
03-29-2005, 09:47 PM
looks like some pretty bad photo processing?

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 09:48 PM
looks like some pretty bad photo processing?
thats what I meant, the film/processing part of getting the pics.

Beth
03-29-2005, 09:52 PM
If I may, I believe that this photography issue has a few possibilities.

1) Lens-could be cracks/malfunction
2)Ghosts-depends on if you believe
3)Light-the way it hits the lens/other objects
4)Film-possibility of the film having these thingies already on them, and when the pics were developed, they showed up.

Hope I helped.
they're digital pics

in the second set i just posted from the next day, the camera was in the same position, and the photos were minutes apart. there were none until bobby entered the frames.

he took some photos and they appeared as well. both of our digital cameras aren't cracked. and if they were cracked, it doesn't explain the tons of photos where none appear.

it isn't dust on the lenses, because i never wiped my lens off, nor did he, so why do they appear in some photos and not others? further, if it were dust on the lens, shouldn't the dust be in the same spot?

TurdBerglar
03-29-2005, 09:53 PM
POLTERHGIEST!


stay away from them trees!

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 09:55 PM
they're digital pics

in the second set i just posted from the next day, the camera was in the same position, and the photos were minutes apart. there were none until bobby entered the frames.

he took some photos and they appeared as well. both of our digital cameras aren't cracked. and if they were cracked, it doesn't explain the tons of photos where none appear.

it isn't dust on the lenses, because i never wiped my lens off, nor did he, so why do they appear in some photos and not others? further, if it were dust on the lens, shouldn't the dust be in the same spot?
Yes the dust should be on the same spot. Try an alternate lighting to the room.

Beth
03-29-2005, 10:00 PM
after we took the photos posted in the second set above, we went to the cemetery. we both took our cameras. there are lots of photos i took that had no orbs, and a few that did. you can see them better when you brighten the photo, so i posted the original photo, then the brightened ones. and no, none of the orbs are the moon. the moon was much higher and doesn't appear in any of the photos.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs12.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs12brighter.jpg


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs13.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs13brighter.jpg


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs14.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs14brighter.jpg


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs15.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs15brighter.jpg


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/thefuck.jpg
i don't know what those things are, but they look like bright moving lights

Beth
03-29-2005, 10:02 PM
Yes the dust should be on the same spot. Try an alternate lighting to the room.
that doesn't explain why, with the same exact lighting, there are none in the photos with me and none when the room is empty, but they appear in the room when bobby is in the photo.

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 10:08 PM
that doesn't explain why, with the same exact lighting, there are none in the photos with me and none when the room is empty, but they appear in the room when bobby is in the photo.
Ok, if in a certain light setting, light will bounce all over the place, and into your camera, when that flash goes off, you might get some kind of reflection off of something. I'm absolutely terrible at explaining this wierdness via internet.....

The second one in the last set you posted is very wierd. Although you may or may not be a believer in EVP, ghosts appearing in photos, or paranormal junk, when all else fails, blame it on ghosts???

Beth
03-29-2005, 10:10 PM
i believe in ghosts. that's what i think it is.

as for the lighting, the camera was in the same position using the same lighting, so if it were to reflect off something, it should reflect the same in all photos taken from the same position. it does not (as evidenced in the second set of photos).

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 10:18 PM
i believe in ghosts. that's what i think it is.

as for the lighting, the camera was in the same position using the same lighting, so if it were to reflect off something, it should reflect the same in all photos taken from the same position. it does not (as evidenced in the second set of photos).
If the position of the camera was not changed, the lighting unaltered, and no addictional objects added or removed from the scene, then if they were to be reflections, they would appear in the same relative positions. As you indicated, they have not and the orbs have still changed places.....As much as I think there's a logical answer to everything, I really dont know how to explain photo six in set one, photo one, three, four, and six in set three. The rest of the pics seem to have just minor dots that couldddd be dust, or other airborne things.

I believe in the paranormal as well, but nothing is creepier than EVP.

TurdBerglar
03-29-2005, 10:20 PM
it must be boring in florida

ToucanSpam
03-29-2005, 10:21 PM
it must be boring in florida
Not as boring as when I ploughed your father's wife thoroughly last night. When I was done, I made her fill out a survey on how good I was.

DroppinScience
03-29-2005, 10:25 PM
Aww... now why the covering of Dr. Deaf's face? :(

Is he in the witness protection program? :eek:

Beth
03-29-2005, 10:40 PM
i could show you, but then i'd have to kill you.

TurdBerglar
03-29-2005, 10:47 PM
yeah

just lens flares

Beth
03-29-2005, 10:48 PM
It's to do with the flash.
then why aren't the spots in the same place in all photos where the lighting, positioning and the flash are the same?

TurdBerglar
03-29-2005, 10:53 PM
positioning can never be exactly the same. the most minute difference of location in space of the lens itself is the reasoning for the difference of placement of the orbs in the pictures taken.

HEIRESS
03-29-2005, 11:00 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/befsquire/orbs10.jpg


photo that made me :D most

this all is some funky funky shit

Freebasser
03-30-2005, 02:10 AM
Those dastardly Germans!

*shakes fist*

tulla
03-30-2005, 08:49 AM
those are very fascinating

i now feel the urge to learn more about ghosts

CiaoBellaXO
03-30-2005, 08:55 AM
what is the definition of an orb? Is is just roaming energy left behind?

Dr Deaf
03-30-2005, 11:30 AM
photo that made me :D most

this all is some funky funky shit



:D


what is the definition of an orb? Is is just roaming energy left behind?


http://southjerseyghostresearch.org/cases/Batsto3cy1204am3258.jpg
What are these balls of transparent light we find in photos taken in allegedly haunted places? I won't tell you I know the answer to this question. No one has the true answer to this question yet, but that's part of the job of researchers and investigator.

One of the leading theories concerning what orbs are and the one that I lean towards the most is that they are not the spirit at all. The orb is the energy being transferred from a source (i.e. powerlines, heat energy, batteries, people, etc) to the spirit so they can manifest. This may not even be a conscious thing the spirit is doing, just a natural way they get their energy. This would explain why the orbs are round balls. According to the laws of Physics energy being transferring like that would assume is natural shape of a sphere. This theory can also be tied into the EMF readings we get during spirit activity.

I always approach things with a bit of skepticism, so when I saw all these websites start showing off these photos as ghosts, I was just as weary as most of you. I just had to try it for myself. I took a 35mm camera that I had used regularly for 6 years in all types of lighting and weather and had never gotten an orb or other unexplainable photo before and went out with a few seasoned field investigators on a cemetery investigation. One of the investigators was psychic and she pointed out a few areas we should take photos, so I did. I also had ghost footsteps walkup behind me twice and I turned around quickly and took photos of the empty air. When I got my photos developed, I had these orbs and fog in those photos that I was told to take, as well as the footstep ones. All my other photos were normal. Coincidence?

Since we do not know what orbs truly are, just that they seem to be found mainly in areas where there is ghost activity, I will tell you what they are not. On a normal investigation there are about 10 people using 10 different cameras, 35mm and digital, and many speeds and brands of film. They all get their film developed at separate places. Let's say only half of these investigators get some orb photos. Are these water spots or dirt on the lens? That would mean that 5 people all had similar dirt on their lens and all 5 did not clean their lens either. Are these orbs film processing errors? Well the 35mm cameras all had their film developed in different locations and used different film so that is very unlikely. The digital cameras can't have film-processing errors. I am aware that some people feel that the orbs on a digital camera are an error in the digital processing of the image. When that error does occur in digital photos, the objects tend to be square in nature, not round and they cannot be semi-transparent, the pixel behind would have to be corrupted also. I will not even address the precipitation theory, no legitimate researchers takes photos in any form of precipitation. What about dust and dirt being stirred up? Can that be the cause of the orbs? If that were the case, I would think that there would not be normal photos in a sequence of photos from the same camera and location. All of the shots in a sequence should have the dust or dirt in it. We find that most orb photos do not appear in consecutive photos. All photographers present should get orbs if it is dust being stirred up as well.

These are just a few things for the skeptics to think of when they are condemning an orb photo as a fake or fraud and some things for investigators to consider when checking their photos for positives.

source (http://theshadowlands.net/ghost/orbs.htm)

cuckyposs
03-30-2005, 01:36 PM
I thought this was another boobies thread...

-But they're definitely ghosts. They're unsettled souls of former Eastman Kodak employees doomed to an eternity walking the earth with the sole purpose of interfering with digital photography.






and shit

Knuckles
03-30-2005, 02:51 PM
Maybe Cosmo would know. She is the photo master around these parts. (y)

I believe in spirits. Energy has to go somewhere right?

On a side note: I love the pics :) The good Doctor and Befsquire are a most charming couple. :D

Qdrop
03-30-2005, 02:56 PM
looks like some pretty bad photo processing?
yep or just bad digital photography.

but people see what they want to see..




seriously, why does Deaf (bobby) not want his face shown?

what animal testing lab did he burn down?

Qdrop
03-30-2005, 03:03 PM
http://www.csicop.org/sb/2004-06/mysteries.html

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/articles/digital.html

the been
03-30-2005, 03:38 PM
Yeah, Beth...those are definitely orbs. Was this the only time it happened? Were these pictures all taken on the same day?

b-grrrlie
03-30-2005, 03:46 PM
I'd say on those first pictures the answer is right in front of you: the chrystal-cut glasses! They reflect all over! I've got chrystals hanging on my window and there's all these wonderful rainbow coloured prisms everywhere when the sun shines and the cats love chasing them.

Also camera sees much more than human eye does. Usually those orbs are flash reflections from dust, insects, raindrops (like in Bobby's example pic) etc. I think those moving lights are fireflys or some shiny beetles.

I've worked with photography more than half my life and been known to do some "ghost-tricks" myself as well ;)


Oh yeah and back in the days when you used film the dots were results of airbubbles in developing (I got those a few times when developing b/w and not hitting the bottle hard enough on the table after turning it upside down a few times)

Qdrop
03-30-2005, 03:53 PM
I'd say on those first pictures the answer is right in front of you: the chrystal-cut glasses! They reflect all over! I've got chrystals hanging on my window and there's all these wonderful rainbow coloured prisms everywhere when the sun shines and the cats love chasing them.

Also camera sees much more than human eye does. Usually those orbs are flash reflections from dust, insects, raindrops (like in Bobby's example pic) etc. I think those moving lights are fireflys or some shiny beetles.

I've worked with photography more than half my life and been known to do some "ghost-tricks" myself as well ;)

you're absolutely correct....

but it doesn't matter:


i believe in ghosts. that's what i think it is.


when people have pre-existing beliefs....they'll see what ever they want.

ToucanSpam
03-30-2005, 03:54 PM
:D





http://southjerseyghostresearch.org/cases/Batsto3cy1204am3258.jpg


If my opinion is at all valid, I would say that is definately either moisture, dust, or other residue on the camera.

b-grrrlie
03-30-2005, 03:57 PM
I believe in ghosts as well, and life on another planets (i.e. aliens), but those are so easily explained.

I've had aura-pics taken of me on a couple of occasions and why the colours are different depending on my mental state makes it ghooly!

adrockmelanie
03-30-2005, 04:20 PM
yeah. i believe in ghosts, too.. but i don't think that's what the orbs are. because.. this^^ would be a hell of a lot of ghosts.

[no pun intended.]

june78745
03-30-2005, 04:30 PM
www.phact.org

roosta
03-30-2005, 04:54 PM
THE FUCKING ORBS ARE COMING!

TurdBerglar
03-30-2005, 05:11 PM
THE FUCKING ORBS ARE COMING!


my orbs do that all the time

ToucanSpam
03-30-2005, 05:19 PM
my orbs do that all the time
you have no orbs you slack jawed faggot.... :p

Beth
03-30-2005, 09:55 PM
seriously, why does Deaf (bobby) not want his face shown?
because he's a private person who prefers anonymity.

i would say the main reason i feel the orbs might be something other than reflections or dust, etc., is because they are never in photos with me, and my kids take hundreds of pictures of me. they've only appeared in photos with me twice, and both times it was one really bright orb. also, the orbs never appeared before the death of my mother in 2000 (yes, i went back through all of my digital and regular photos). they also don't generally appear in photos of just josh, and if they do appear in his photos, it's also one really bright orb. they appear frequently in photos of noelle, whether they're taken here or at her father's house.

when people have pre-existing beliefs....they'll see what ever they want.

maybe it's all just one big coincidence. maybe i'm connecting dots that aren't meant to be connected. but it's an interesting theory, and one that i like because i like to think it could be my mom.

sue me.

ToucanSpam
03-30-2005, 09:56 PM
It's really enjoyable to see what you have to say in general Beth. :D

monkey
03-30-2005, 10:19 PM
being as how im a complete and utter believer of spirits, this thread freaked the shit out of me. i especially believe that beth's mother could very well be the spirit protecting noelle. and it's awesome that you guys noticed this thing on the photographs. now im gonna look obsessively over my photos :o

ScarySquirrel
03-31-2005, 12:15 AM
Man, you might want to get that camera checked out. It keeps erasing his face too!

Qdrop
03-31-2005, 11:13 AM
but it's an interesting theory, and one that i like because i like to think it could be my mom.
understandable.


sue me.
fuck no...you're a lawyer....
you'd drag me around the courtroom like a mop.
:p

i'mcrafty
06-21-2005, 02:11 AM
ok...so my daughter (4) is in love with "Rex" from Napolean Dynamite. and we bought her this shirt! :D and so i take this picture of her to send to my sister who also loves the movie. i don't notice a thing until i go to e-mail her all the pictures, and look! :eek: an orb! i have goose bumps everytime i look at this picture now (ps, i cut off my daughter's head for her privacy)

ahh! orb by her little legs! :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/dooba76/41cd64a8.jpg
sorry so big! :(

beastieangel01
06-21-2005, 09:43 AM
POLTERHGIEST!


stay away from them trees!

haha.

Odd about those orbs.

cosmo105
06-21-2005, 09:55 AM
most definitely not "ghosts." there's a perfectly reasonable explanation: flash reflecting off the odd bit of dust or moisture in the air.

for example, what happens when you take pics in the snow or rain? you get tons of crazy reflections like that. that pic dr deaf posted looks like it was taken in a rainy or very misty environment.

Qdrop
06-21-2005, 10:02 AM
most definitely not "ghosts." there's a perfectly reasonable explanation: flash reflecting off the odd bit of dust or moisture in the air.

for example, what happens when you take pics in the snow or rain? you get tons of crazy reflections like that. that pic dr deaf posted looks like it was taken in a rainy or very misty environment.

share the knowledge....
preach!!

Hiebz
06-21-2005, 03:02 PM
I had an "orb" in one of my webcam pics and so I filmed a little movie of it at the time because I thought it was weird. You can see it on the Special family album that knucks made and modified me, so I think it is dated before this thread came out. I have the movie saved, and after I read this thread I went back to look at it and found out it was light reflected from the tile in the background clearly. I could post the movie?, not sure I can or would because it is a hefty 80 mb if you want it I can connect on MSN or Yahoo! messenger and have a high speed DSL connection. PM me to check it out ...

CiaoBella
06-21-2005, 03:12 PM
looks like that "orb" is close to your daughter's crotch...perverted orb.

ToucanSpam
06-21-2005, 03:37 PM
looks like that "orb" is close to your daughter's crotch...perverted orb.
only you would point that out :D

zippo
06-21-2005, 03:48 PM
http://southjerseyghostresearch.org/cases/Batsto3cy1204am3258.jpg
What are these balls of transparent light we find in photos taken in allegedly haunted places? I won't tell you I know the answer to this question. No one has the true answer to this question yet, but that's part of the job of researchers and investigator.


well, snow can be a frightening, mind-boggling, thought provoking natural phenomenon that can lead even the most qualified weather investigator into complete paranoia

zippo
06-21-2005, 03:49 PM
looks like that "orb" is close to your daughter's crotch...perverted orb.

what the fuck kind of tasteless joke is that :confused:

kll
06-21-2005, 04:09 PM
i believe in ghosts. that's what i think it is.

as for the lighting, the camera was in the same position using the same lighting, so if it were to reflect off something, it should reflect the same in all photos taken from the same position. it does not (as evidenced in the second set of photos).

if you rent the dvd for 'white noise' and then watch the special features, they talk about all that weird stuff and it's quite fascinating...