View Full Version : Schiavo Dies 13 Days After Tube Removed
racer5.0stang
03-31-2005, 11:37 AM
Schiavo (http://apnews.myway.com//article/20050331/D8962RG00.html)
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged woman who spent 15 years connected to a feeding tube in an epic legal and medical battle that went all the way to the White House and Congress, died Thursday, 13 days after the tube was removed. She was 41.
Schiavo died at the Pinellas Park hospice where she lay for years while her husband and her parents fought over her in the nation's longest, most bitter - and most heavily litigated - right-to-die dispute.
The feud between the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and their son-in-law continued even after her death: The Schindlers' spiritual advisers said the couple had been at their daughter's bedside minutes before the end came, but were not there at the moment of her death because Michael Schiavo did not want them in the room.
Qdrop
03-31-2005, 12:05 PM
but this is sooooooo far from over.
can't wait for that autopsy.
infidel
03-31-2005, 08:03 PM
The feud between the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and their son-in-law continued even after her death: The Schindlers' spiritual advisers said the couple had been at their daughter's bedside minutes before the end came, but were not there at the moment of her death because Michael Schiavo did not want them in the room.
If this had happened to YOUR spouse, and your in-laws had turned your spouses illness and death into a NATIONAL CIRCUS complete with JUGGLERS for JESUS, selling their mailing list for PROFIT, and their 'spiritual advisor' went on national television within ONE HOUR after her death and accused YOU of "heartless cruelty", what would you do? Let 'em in? After years of being vilified, would you spend your last moments with your wife with in-laws whose spokespeople have openly called for you to burn in hell?
If so, you're a much better person than I am.
a friend of a friend of mine got hit by a car or something once, and his parents actually refused to let him go on life support because they were religious. they wanted to leave it up to god. man oh man if only her parents were the same way.
Rosie Cotton
04-01-2005, 03:46 AM
The feud between the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and their son-in-law continued even after her death: The Schindlers' spiritual advisers said the couple had been at their daughter's bedside minutes before the end came, but were not there at the moment of her death because Michael Schiavo did not want them in the room.
Um, when their spiritual adviser went on TV afterwards he said that her parents weren't at the hospice at all. I believe he said they were still on their way. It was the brother and sister who were there, and from what I understand they were made to leave because the brother was trying to pick a fight with hubby. I wouldn't be too surprised, there's something about that brother of her's I just don't like.
ASsman
04-01-2005, 09:53 AM
but this is sooooooo far from over.
can't wait for that autopsy.
Why? So you can win the pool? Fuck you Man! Fuck you.
Whois
04-01-2005, 10:33 AM
Any see how Tom "Fuckface" DeLay is threatening Federal Judges who didn't rule the way he wanted?
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5323461.html
DeLay hints at impeachment attempt against judges in case.
WASHINGTON — House Majority Leader Tom DeLay on Thursday blamed Terri Schiavo's death on what he contended was a failed legal system and he raised the possibility of trying to impeach some of the federal judges in the case.
"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior,'' said DeLay, R-Texas.
But a leading Democratic senator said DeLay's comments were "irresponsible and reprehensible.'' Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said DeLay should make sure that people know he is not advocating violence against judges.
DeLay, the second-ranking House GOP lawmaker, helped lead congressional efforts 10 days ago to enact legislation designed to prod the federal courts into ordering the reinsertion of Schiavo's feeding tube. He said the courts' refusal to do just that was a "perfect example of an out of control judiciary.''
Asked about the possibility of the House's bringing impeachment charges against judges in the Schiavo case, DeLay said, "There's plenty of time to look into that.''
President Bush expressed sympathy to Schiavo's parents.
"I urge all those who honor Terri Schiavo to continue to work to build a culture of life where all Americans are welcomed and valued and protected, especially those who live at the mercy of others,'' he said.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan refused to join DeLay in criticizing the courts. "We would have preferred a different decision from the courts ... but ultimately we have to follow our laws and abide by the courts,'' McClellan said.
Joining DeLay in taking issue with the judiciary was Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., who said, "The actions on the part of the Florida court and the U.S. Supreme Court are unconscionable.'' Also, GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry of North Carolina said the case "saw a state judge completely ignore a congressional committees subpoena and insult its intent'' and "a federal court not only reject, but deride the very law that Congress passed.''
DeLay said he would make sure that the GOP-controlled House "will look at an arrogant and out of control judiciary that thumbs its nose at Congress and the president.''
But Kennedy said DeLay should watch his words, especially in light of the recent murder of a Georgia judge and the killing of a federal judge's husband and mother in Chicago. Kennedy noted that judges in the Schiavo case and their families have received threats.
"This case has been heartbreaking and tragic enough,'' Kennedy said. "It is time for mourning and healing, not for more inflammatory rhetoric, and responsible national leaders should understand that and stop this exploitation.''
The legislation passed in an emergency session of Congress and immediately signed by Bush ordered the federal courts to review the decision by a Florida judge to allow the removal of the feeding tube that kept Schiavo alive.
U.S. District Judge James Whittemore refused. His ruling was twice upheld by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Later, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to intervene.
As a House member, DeLay has no constitutional role in deciding who becomes a federal judge or whether a judge should be disciplined. The president selects the judges; senators confirm them. The federal court regulates those judges.
But the GOP-controlled House can initiate impeachment proceedings on federal judges, just as they impeached President Clinton, only to have the Senate acquit him.
"Congress for many years has shirked its responsibility to hold the judiciary accountable. No longer,'' DeLay said.
The House has impeached 11 federal judges, including former Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase, but the Senate has only convicted and removed seven.
Chase was not convicted. The last federal judge to be removed was Alcee Hastings, in 1989; he is now a Democratic congressman from Florida.
Congress does have the authority under the Constitution to limit what kind of cases the federal courts can hear. Republicans have complained for some time about what they see as an out of control federal judiciary.
The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said Congress should pass the broad legislation that House Republicans favored in the Schiavo case but which was narrowed to cover only the Florida woman after a compromise with the White House.
"Terri's will to live should serve as an inspiration and impetus for action,'' said Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis.
The House bill, giving jurisdiction of the Schiavo case to the federal courts, would have applied to any case in which there were questions about withholding food or medical treatment from an incapacitated person.
McClellan said the president would review such legislation if it came to him.
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"Rule the way we want you to or else..."
...lovely
infidel
04-01-2005, 11:26 AM
I hope the soon to be felon DeLay tries it, the public outcry would be so bad that it would ruin the repuke party for several years. This clown doesn't seem to realize that just because a judge doesn't rule in favor of a small percentage of America is doesn't mean they are corrupt, liberal etc.
It will backfire.
Another thing is that judges can't be impeached because of their rulings, there has to be a criminal offence involved.
bb_bboy
04-01-2005, 11:39 AM
Now that she's gone, why doesn't the US Congress step in to save the freaking popa!
SobaViolence
04-01-2005, 11:56 AM
she was bullimic/anorexic...why aren't people talking about that shit?
ridiculous.
bb_bboy
04-01-2005, 11:57 AM
she was bullimic/anorexic...why aren't people talking about that shit?
Man, that's just depressing.
racer5.0stang
04-01-2005, 01:50 PM
she was bullimic/anorexic...why aren't people talking about that shit?
ridiculous.
Isn't it ironic that the very thing that put her in the hospital, is what killed her. ie starvation
ASsman
04-01-2005, 01:54 PM
Someone remove Delay's feeding tube. It's obvious hes too stupid to feed himself and probably requires the use of one.
Isn't it ironic that the very thing that put her in the hospital, is what killed her. ie starvation
....not really? that's like saying, "isn't it ironic that the gunshot victim died from a gunshot wound....really makes you think"
infidel
04-01-2005, 02:40 PM
Isn't it ironic that the very thing that put her in the hospital, is what killed her. ie starvation
and that bulimia is a disease of vain self conscious people. Why would anyone think a person like this would want to go on living looking and acting like a tard?
Whois
04-01-2005, 02:42 PM
One little problem with racer's statement, she didn't die of starvation...she died of thirst.
racer5.0stang
04-01-2005, 03:05 PM
....not really? that's like saying, "isn't it ironic that the gunshot victim died from a gunshot wound....really makes you think"
You are obviously ignorant of the situation, allow me enlighten you.
She was a bulimic. Because of this choice, she upset the potassium levels in her body which caused a heart attack. Her brain was without oxygen for 10 minutes. The result of the insufficient oxygen left her severely brain damaged.
Now without the "feeding tube" she was without food and water. She survived for 13 days.
Oh, in case you don't know what bulimia is:
bu·lim·i·a
1. Also called hyperphagia. Pathol. abnormally voracious appetite or unnaturally constant hunger.
2. Also called binge-purge syndrome, bulimÆia ner·voÆsa (nûr v$ÆsÃ). Psychiatry. a habitual disturbance in eating behavior mostly affecting young women of normal weight, characterized by frequent episodes of grossly excessive food intake followed by self-induced vomiting to avert weight gain. Cf. anorexia nervosa.
Although the bulimic eats, said person induces vomiting, therefore starving the body.
You are obviously ignorant of the situation, allow me enlighten you.
She was a bulimic. Because of this choice, she upset the potassium levels in her body which caused a heart attack. Her brain was without oxygen for 10 minutes. The result of the insufficient oxygen left her severely brain damaged.
Now without the "feeding tube" she was without food and water. She survived for 13 days.
Oh, in case you don't know what bulimia is:
bu·lim·i·a
1. Also called hyperphagia. Pathol. abnormally voracious appetite or unnaturally constant hunger.
2. Also called binge-purge syndrome, bulimÆia ner·voÆsa (nûr v$ÆsÃ). Psychiatry. a habitual disturbance in eating behavior mostly affecting young women of normal weight, characterized by frequent episodes of grossly excessive food intake followed by self-induced vomiting to avert weight gain. Cf. anorexia nervosa.
Although the bulimic eats, said person induces vomiting, therefore starving the body.
what's potassium?
Whois
04-01-2005, 04:46 PM
what's potassium?
:D (y)
synch
04-01-2005, 05:19 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't know what a "spiritual advisor" is?
Whois
04-01-2005, 05:54 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't know what a "spiritual advisor" is?
Randall Terry, he's more of a 'spiritual terrorist'.
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good ... if a Christian voted for Clinton, he sinned against God. It's that simple. Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country."
Funkaloyd
04-01-2005, 06:39 PM
Racer, maybe look up "Irony" in that dictionary of yours.
she was bullimic/anorexic...why aren't people talking about that shit?
Best article to come out of this media circus (http://www.yda.org/CMS/node/view/1552?PHPSESSID=6e5e915552d26eaaf35dc1b321c33ee4).
synch
04-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Randall Terry, he's more of a 'spiritual terrorist'.
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good ... if a Christian voted for Clinton, he sinned against God. It's that simple. Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country."
That sounds like a b-movie villain.
no, ms. schiavo....i expect you....to die!
KingPsyz
04-02-2005, 03:44 PM
this was my reply in the beastie free thread that killed it when someone was ranting about the parents not being handed over the body as if it were property.
why should he let the parents have the body? i think he's right the parents have done nothing but turn their daughter into a media spectacle and a platform for the right wing republicans.
it's obvious where their loyalty stands, with cashola. they were all nice and friendly with the husband until he didn't give them a cut of the settlement issued to him. why the fuck should they get a cut? did they pay her medical bills? and more than likely her bulemia was a result of issues from her childhood not her marriage.
you know the worst part of all this? that we know about it. people go through this everyday but because of the right wing agenda in florida and their need to divert attention from the ongoing iraq debacle and absolute corruption of social security insurance coupled with the greed of the parents we have been dragged through this mess as well.
well it succeeded, we stopped talking about iraq, social security, and bush's wanning approval for a few weeks to argue semantics over a brain dead woman and who gets to say wheather she withers or dies.
SobaViolence
04-03-2005, 12:22 PM
i've told all of my family.
anything like this happens, gimme a gun with one bullet. no questions asked. fuck being a vegetable.
synch
04-03-2005, 12:47 PM
You haven't given that scenario a lot of thought have you...
KingPsyz
04-03-2005, 12:49 PM
i don't have a lot to leave behind now or anything. but if i did, i'd have a clause that as soon as someone in my circle of friends and familly started anything over the money/possesions in my absence it would all go to charity.
ASsman
04-03-2005, 01:55 PM
i've told all of my family.
anything like this happens, gimme a gun with one bullet. no questions asked. fuck being a vegetable.
This veggy will self-destruct after 2 days.
SobaViolence
04-03-2005, 03:52 PM
You haven't given that scenario a lot of thought have you...
i have no idea what you mean.
if i am unfortunate enough to fall into a vegetative state, do me a favour mom and dad, and let me go with dignity.
the husband was/is completely correct in having her life support withdrawn.
synch
04-03-2005, 03:54 PM
What I mean is...
i've told all of my family.
anything like this happens, gimme a gun with one bullet. no questions asked. fuck being a vegetable.
What are you going to do with a loaded gun while in a coma ;)
SobaViolence
04-03-2005, 04:04 PM
obviously, gimme a gun with one bullet means, 'give it to me.' you know...smartass. :rolleyes:
synch
04-03-2005, 04:23 PM
:D
Sorry man, one of those days.
ASsman
04-03-2005, 04:48 PM
i have no idea what you mean.
if i am unfortunate enough to fall into a vegetative state, do me a favour mom and dad, and let me go with dignity.
the husband was/is completely correct in having her life support withdrawn.
I would have asked for lethal injection. Starving a veggy is no way to go. Retarded. IMO the only reason people like that are kept is because families can't handle their pussy emotions.
SobaViolence
04-03-2005, 05:48 PM
the only reason people like that are kept is because families can't handle their pussy emotions.
(y)
racer5.0stang
04-04-2005, 04:06 PM
I agree with the husband in pulling the tube, but it seems to me that they could have given her a lethal injection, instead of starving her to death.
synch
04-04-2005, 04:39 PM
I think that the reason for not doing that is legal. I reckon it would be murder to do that.
Pleasantly surprised that you agree with the husband by the way :)
Ace42
04-04-2005, 05:07 PM
I agree with the husband in pulling the tube, but it seems to me that they could have given her a lethal injection, instead of starving her to death.
That is the second sensible thing you've said today. Maybe the death of the pope DOES herald the end of days.
racer5.0stang
04-05-2005, 10:28 AM
I think that the reason for not doing that is legal. I reckon it would be murder to do that.
Pleasantly surprised that you agree with the husband by the way :)
So allowing her to die over an extended period of time is better than letting her within moments?
Either way, the end result is the same. She is dead.
Maybe the death of the pope DOES herald the end of days.
Just because the head pharisee died, doesn't mean the end of days.
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