Torture in Tennessee

[Classic Iconocl]

Five Tennessee sheriff's deputies have pled guilty to torture. This may be the most important news the mainstream media is conveniently "overlooking". I've spoken with the journalist who broke this story, and he said he has received calls from all over the world. But on the nightly news, it's a blackout.

Here's the link to the original story (caution - this is EXTREMELY disturbing)
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n215/a02.html?44618

Wake up, America. We've got Abu-Ghraib style torture right here in our borders.

Your Iconoclast,

Christopher Largen

[Qdrop]

i don't know....
those officers are scary fuckers.....and went too far.

but it's hard to feel bad for a career criminal/drug dealer that is getting beaten.....

it's trash beating on trash.......
i hope they all die........

[ASsman]

Hopefully they beat you first, thinking you are trash.

[Classic Iconocl]

Just as with the prison abuses in Iraq, the ADMINISTRATION (ConservaLib Party, masquerading as two distinct parties) will claim it had no direct involvement in this barbaric incident. It will point to the federal prosecution as evidence it will not tolerate abuse and torture. However, the administration had the intelligence to predict that when a government declares war on its own people (as it has in the so-called war on drugs), there will be casualties.

This is insane. Our policies have to change. If Americans eliminated the alcohol bootleggers. they can bring down the drug mafia. You know who they are. The cartellians, the ones who absolutely DO NOT want drugs to be legalized and regulated because they would lose 95% of their profits (in the current system of drug prohibition, they only lose about 10% of their profits to government seizures - just enough to help the government pretend they are actually "winning" this war. I suppose the loss of our civil liberties, our tax dollars, our ability to be free from abuse and torture, and our sanity is the price we must pay to ensure mobsters get rich and children have easy access to unregulated drugs (black market dealers don't usually ask for ID from their clients). After all, that's what we've accomplished during our 30-year drug war.

Your Iconoclast,

Christopher Largen

[Qdrop]

Hopefully they beat you first, thinking you are trash.

i don't sell drugs or have any connection to those that do. the cops wouldn't come to my door.

don't pretend this is the early stages of the gestapo...
it's country hick cops beating up on a career drug dealer......
that's it.

[Classic Iconocl]

Q-Drop,

From your posting, it sounds as if you have faith in THE SYSTEM.

It sounds like you think you are protected from police brutality because you are innocent. If only it were true.

Did you know that if somebody doesn't like you, all they have to do is call the cops and whisper, "Hey, Qdrop has a marijuana plant growing in his closet." Your accuser can remain completely anonymous, and in some counties in the U.S., that's enough evidence for the judge to grant police a warrant to smash in your front door, guns drawn.

You better hope the police in your area don't ever get the wrong address on one of their "dope" raids. Innocent people have been shot to death in their own homes by police who fumbled an investigation.

But since you don't hang out with "those kind of people", maybe GOD/GOVERNMENT INC. will protect you from losing your liberties and human rights. Since you're so good, and all. ;)

[ASsman]

i don't sell drugs or have any connection to those that do. the cops wouldn't come to my door.

don't pretend this is the early stages of the gestapo...
it's country hick cops beating up on a career drug dealer......
that's it.
And niggers, so it's all fair and good. Also, fuck the constitution, that seems to be "in" and fashionable.

[Qdrop]

And niggers, so it's all fair and good. Also, fuck the constitution, that seems to be "in" and fashionable.

didn't say this was "right", i'm just not gonna let people start the "scare machine" up...

"they could come for YOU next!!"

talk about a "culture of fear"......


prosecute these cops to the fullest......but keep it in perspective.

[Qdrop]

Q-Drop,

From your posting, it sounds as if you have faith in THE SYSTEM.

It sounds like you think you are protected from police brutality because you are innocent. If only it were true.

Did you know that if somebody doesn't like you, all they have to do is call the cops and whisper, "Hey, Qdrop has a marijuana plant growing in his closet." Your accuser can remain completely anonymous, and in some counties in the U.S., that's enough evidence for the judge to grant police a warrant to smash in your front door, guns drawn.

You better hope the police in your area don't ever get the wrong address on one of their "dope" raids. Innocent people have been shot to death in their own homes by police who fumbled an investigation.

But since you don't hang out with "those kind of people", maybe GOD/GOVERNMENT INC. will protect you from losing your liberties and human rights. Since you're so good, and all. ;)

and from your post, you seem to think the Gov't is out to get YOU!!!

do you keep a gun under your pillow.


look, i understand your sentiment....and clearly this was a gross abuse of power. Granted it was against some piece of shit that deserved it, but "what if he was innocent?". yes, i get that.....and that is important.

but you are trying to take this incident and make it into a common event....to satisfy your sentiments and fear...and garner support.
you, too, are contributing to the culture of fear.

[ASsman]

Granted it was against some piece of shit that deserved it
Heh, right.

[Qdrop]

Heh, right.

yeah, i know... "don't blame the victim, qdrip!"

would you want him living next door to you.....or have him as a roomate?
really....
the guy is piece of shit, a career drug dealer/criminal......

[ASsman]

yeah, i know... "don't blame the victim, qdrip!"

would you want him living next door to you.....or have him as a roomate?
really....
the guy is piece of shit, a career drug dealer/criminal......
Right, but AFAIK, the courts decide what he "deserves". I'd rather have him over some dick sucking sleezy inside trading honkey.

[Qdrop]

Right, but AFAIK, the courts decide what he "deserves". I'd rather have him over some dick sucking sleezy inside trading honkey.

yeah, i agree with you on both accounts.

just hard to feel bad for this one individual i guess......

[Classic Iconocl]

and from your post, you seem to think the Gov't is out to get YOU!!!

do you keep a gun under your pillow.


look, i understand your sentiment....and clearly this was a gross abuse of power. Granted it was against some piece of shit that deserved it, but "what if he was innocent?". yes, i get that.....and that is important.

but you are trying to take this incident and make it into a common event....to satisfy your sentiments and fear...and garner support.
you, too, are contributing to the culture of fear.

It depends on what you define as a "common event". Since the CORP-GOV-MEDIA is willing to cover up stories like this when there is actual taped evidence, how many other cases go unreported? Not to mention that even a single case of torture is too many.

Regarding the "culture of fear"... I'm not afraid. If I were scared, I sure wouldn't be writing internationally published books and articles on drug policy reform. I wouldn't have spent two years traveling Texas to protest the Ku Klux Klan. I wouldn't be walking into state legislators offices with a pound of federal marijuana, either. Just because I seek to know and expose my opponents for what they are does not mean I am scared to go into battle.

But if I had to be afraid of something in this incident, I would be less scared of renegade cops and more frightened of the CORP-GOV-MEDIA that refuses to report the story.

I don't sleep with a gun under my pillow, but I have received threatening emails and my car was firebombed once and vandalized repeatedly. There have been occassions where I have been followed and threatened by overzealous police officers (see http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3076.html for the full story). Those who actually exercise their First Amendment rights in this nation are easy targets. I have a wife and children. So yes, I am careful. But not afraid.

Your Iconoclast,

Christopher Largen

[Whois]

Example of an 'oxymoron':

"We're from the government, and we're here to help you."

You guys should read some of the fun stories involving abuse of power by the BATFE (Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives).

dead pets

dead people

stolen property

etc...

etc...