Rug pulled out from under Govt in exile

[milleson]

Make of this what you will.
China and India come to terms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1075026.cms)

[MC Moot]

Make of this what you will.
China and India come to terms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1075026.cms)


Ill Communication me thinks,the plot thickens,China is playing the region like Kasparov...I work with a Nepalese Gourka who brought this to my attention,may interest you:http://www.satribune.com/archives/200503/P1_arun6.htm

[ericg]

Ahhhhhhhhh..
"...Here we here we go..."
I just can't stress enough how our country needs to get itself together!!! With Canada! ...to step in where a foot needs to be put down, and kick it up right!!
"...Tell me everybody where is the love Hey yo what's the motherfuckn' hubbub?..."
Damn, when will the govs and our CIA particularly, realize that it's so much more than just the damn money and the compromised and destructive power it irregardlessly wields. How irreverent can a nation be?
What the.. chucky the duck all fucked up.

[ericg]

Sorry, I don't want to be too rhetorical here on my part...

[MC Moot]

Ahhhhhhhhh..
"...Here we here we go..."
I just can't stress enough how our country needs to get itself together!!! With Canada! ....

Well our government is about to fall due to payola and obscene patronage...so it's not all good....but we recently did opt out of that idiotic American "missile defence shield" bit....remember we supplied India with the capability to refine plutonium and henceforth build the bomb.... "Life comes in phases take the good with the bad..." (y)

[ericg]

I gotta think my soul autonomy and pre-purpose is ciphering out the good from the bad before people can't tell the difference and everything becomes an underlying contention.

I'm sorry to hear about that. But maybe that could turn out to be good... a new start somehow?! It does seem Canada has tensed up having to deal with the effects of being squeezed into all these wrong situations around the world created in most part by America, if that's at all the right inference.. I'm not up on my Canadian politics, and I don't remember that... but know that no country can really be an island on their own... America needs an overhaul, a government tuneup... that would certainly make all the future difference to the way things stand now.

[MC Moot]

I gotta think my soul autonomy and pre-purpose is ciphering out the good from the bad before people can't tell the difference and everything becomes an underlying contention.

I'm sorry to hear about that. But maybe that could turn out to be good... a new start somehow?! It does seem Canada has tensed up having to deal with the effects of being squeezed into all these wrong situations around the world created in most part by America, if that's at all the right inference.. I'm not up on my Canadian politics, and I don't remember that... but know that no country can really be an island on their own... America needs an overhaul, a government tuneup... that would certainly make all the future difference to the way things stand now.

I appreciate the thought you put into your posts as well as milleson,you both go with grace....we sent troops to Afghanistan but came correct and passed on the disaster being perpetrated in Iraq.And ever since the current American administration has been trying to strangle us with trade and tariff strife. The connection with regards to our dissent is direct. In the same manner the sitting government is falling over itself to do business with China,we are responsible for the engineering that went into damming the Yangtze, despite overwhelming environmental and ethical concerns.Canada's relation to the states is like a firefighter living next door to a psychotic 300 pound arsonist on PCP.

I'm curious,here are you posting from? :)

[ericg]

I appreciate the thought you put into your posts as well as milleson,you both go with grace....we sent troops to Afghanistan but came correct and passed on the disaster being perpetrated in Iraq.And ever since the current American administration has been trying to strangle us with trade and tariff strife. The connection with regards to our dissent is direct. In the same manner the sitting government is falling over itself to do business with China,we are responsible for the engineering that went into damming the Yangtze, despite overwhelming environmental and ethical concerns.Canada's relation to the states is like a firefighter living next door to a psychotic 300 pound arsonist on PCP.

I'm curious,here are you posting from? :)

Gratze Senior... It's good to have you up there! "...dissent is direct." ...Decidedly dope! I can dig it.

[Val Kilmer's (Doc H's) inflection from "Wyatt Erb"(sp?)]: "That's a hell of a way..." to set up a question. Yeah, well, by George Bush frontin' the man, I guess you got it.. I'm down here in Florida, for the time being, with the soul purpose practically to evict/ convict, and lock the fat motherfucker up... or burn the house down and rebuild... Who knows where I'll be next.

Anyway, I've only been to Canada a few times, and even then I barely passed the border, in Kingston. I found people and the club to have an 80's feel, and super nice!!! It was cool. I was stationed at Ft. Drum at the time, in Upstate New York. Oh, and I also had the pleasure of checking out the Canadian side of Niagra Falls. Very nice, very nice.

[MC Moot]

Gratze Senior... It's good to have you up there! "...dissent is direct." ...Decidedly dope! I can dig it

De nada,cabron and it's great to connect with conscious Americans!

I'm down here in Florida, for the time being, with the soul purpose practically to evict/ convict, and lock the fat motherfucker up... or burn the house down and rebuild...

Florida,shit you got a right to be pissed,George and Jeb on your plate! :D

Anyway, I've only been to Canada a few times, and even then I barely passed the border, in Kingston. I found people and the club to have an 80's feel, and super nice!!! It was cool. I was stationed at Ft. Drum at the time, in Upstate New York. Oh, and I also had the pleasure of checking out the Canadian side of Niagra Falls. Very nice, very nice.

Well as the official ambassador of dissidence or disaster,I'll stamp your visa,looks like we'll need passports to cross back and forth anytime now,so much for free trade,NAFTA and GATT....could be good! You were "stationed" shit you military? I could really understand the fire you must have lit under your ass if you are.....have ya read "Michael Moore's "Will they ever trust us again?"...yikes.....and Jon Stewarts "America" or Don Novello's (father guido sarduci) "From Bush to Bush" are great humor that helps me laugh and take encouragement that so many brite people feel just like I do.... ;)

[ericg]

"I can really understand..."
You can? That's cool. No, I haven't read those.., and no, I'm out. It's a conspiracy I tell you. I did actually run into some trouble at the border... it's a long story so I won't get into it, but my ride had to do 30 days at Quantico, and I think I got an Article 15 (barracks restrictions and extra duty). Those were the days :D

I've actually been processing for more than 6 months now for reenlistment into the Reserves. It's ridiculous. Incompetence galore.
But not for the Infantry, although I gathered well and went far with it..., I'm deciding on either a medical, paralegal, or tech MOS for training that will provide a relatively well paying PT job while I matriculate in Cali where a full tuition grant is waiting. I'm not fond of California though, I'd rather be in the NE, or Seattle, or England... Anyway, with the plan of getting my pilots license to get things "of the ground", I'll get around after the fact.

But in the mean time... I'm prayin'...!
"...I'm prayin' for rain and, I'm prayin' for title waves, I want to see the ground give way, and watch it all go down..." -TOOL

[MC Moot]

"I can really understand..."
You can? That's cool. No, I haven't read those.., and no, I'm out. It's a conspiracy I tell you.....I've actually been processing for more than 6 months now for reenlistment into the Reserves. It's ridiculous. Incompetence galore.
But not for the Infantry, although I gathered well and went far with it..., I'm deciding on either a medical, paralegal, or tech MOS for training that will provide a relatively well paying PT job while I matriculate in Cali where a full tuition grant is waiting. I'm not fond of California though, I'd rather be in the NE, or Seattle, or England... Anyway, with the plan of getting my pilots license to get things "of the ground", I'll get around after the fact.

That’s really interesting. I come from a line of Spanish anarchists and Irish republicans so the military was never an option. I’m curious about what attracted you to a military approach to your career? I know that in Canada almost all commercial airline pilots come from a military background.Was it financial/educational benefits or perhaps a duty to country,family history or a wish to contribute otherwise in some manner? I have alway's believed that if I have to be in the machine,I'll monkey wrench the mofo.
I don't know if I could hack Californication either,but San Diego has a special place in my heart.....and Seattle other than the cloud and rain is great,I came up in Vancouver so I feel it.Beastie tours so often start there(Seattle) it's a great way to catch 2 shows a tour!

cheers!

[ericg]

That’s really interesting. I come from a line of Spanish anarchists and Irish republicans so the military was never an option. I’m curious about what attracted you to a military approach to your career? I know that in Canada almost all commercial airline pilots come from a military background.Was it financial/educational benefits or perhaps a duty to country,family history or a wish to contribute otherwise in some manner? I have alway's believed that if I have to be in the machine,I'll monkey wrench the mofo.
I don't know if I could hack Californication either,but San Diego has a special place in my heart.....and Seattle other than the cloud and rain is great,I came up in Vancouver so I feel it.Beastie tours so often start there(Seattle) it's a great way to catch 2 shows a tour!

cheers!

Spanish anarchists and Irish republicans... keepin' it real. I was going to pm you, but... the short version is... yes.

And yes, I am no meathead. I took the best out of it... meaning the Infantry does have a genuine and genius quality in the basic feel... in it's regimen and excercise (at least I ran well with it... and loved Upstate NY!!!), and though I was the Company RTO (Radio-Telephone Operator), and on the fast track, Green to Gold, I still got out early... due to a couple Article 15's... a shitty sham of a sergeant who I got into with constantly who unfortunately had been stationed with the Platoon Sergeant prior.., and there's more... (In house politics), and a spinal tap I wouldn't submit to.

I went in simply because I had been "destined" for the AF Acadamy at a young age and for alot of private schooling, but after family.. problems, found myself skinny trippin' on the streets of Riverside... I needed to get back on track... and at that point the AF wouldn't take me unless I had college credit. I went in for the college... which after all was denied... But then I found a full tuition grant I'm eligible for... It's really too long a story than I'm willing to tell right now. But yes, more thought than meets-the-eye went into what the fight was all about. I should have been able to finish my term. I earned the respect from the officers alike, and my own Company Commander told me he thought it was a raw deal and not right... but In house politics... the First Sergeant was a Gorrilla of a ranger, and though had a keen eye or rapport with me, pushed my discharge through. What's interesting (not really)is that during a PT roadmarch, he called me aside to trek it with him, which is just never.. seen. I hadn't done anything against military "code" at that time, at least was not in trouble for anything, but it seemed he just wanted to know me better... he told me he got out and went back in a couple times... and because I do have peter pan syndrome, perhaps in the long run he wanted me to go his way... which was the hard way... if you can understand that somehow... but it was no good. I wasn't him, and had other shit in life...
So, I was like a mediator... like because I was there in my own good time and stead, Sergeants and the like couldn't circle jerk or act out... meathead like. I got the best of it, and I guess it got the best of me...

I was a security guard at the Chula Vista Olyimpic Training Center near San Diego when I went out to see my Aunt.. a filthy rich lawyer... I walked out, it was stupid and a waste of my time given the situation, and I didn't jive with her well in the long run... which was too bad, because she was going to support me in college. I could've played the situation, but it wasn't right for me. So I've been doing what I can, I even went to Alaska to save $... which turned out to be quite an experience... not good, but I definitely appreciated the "last frontier" of America... Then I lived in Seattle for a about a year which I love like no other place... but now shipwrecked in Florida... as I had to come back again and try to solve....... I got 11 points on the word quagmire, but still no wherewithal per se... My Dad retired early as a Major due to schizophrenia about 20 years ago. It was not an "official" matter, though. He lives in Melbourne, Fl. I am finally trying to get it taken care of.. treatment for him. With no help from the family(in fact, much hinderance)... So my time is perhaps on time in a way as best as I can make it in the circumstances. It's killing me though. And what doesn't kill... makes stronger shit is played the fuck out. Not to make the short version any longer... Nothing's goin' right.

Fuck I went and did it didn't I... I should've pm'd you. Anyway... that's it. You in school?

[MC Moot]

I should've pm'd you. Anyway... that's it. You in school?

Much respect my friend I'll have to P.M ya back for sure,I'm out for da weekend....I apologize is this strikes milleson as bad ettiquite us rap'n on her thread!:D

[ericg]

Make of this what you will.
China and India come to terms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1075026.cms)

I don't think she'll mind too terribly much. But you have a point I guess.
I don't think it's too far out of the way... so let's call it par....

Plus, on the positive side, you might find a reason or 3 in there of why or how I sympathize with Tibet... and take it all seriously...!

[ericg]

Damn :eek: :( :cool: Sorry that was just too much... and written badly. I know how "Badly Drawn Boy" may have felt.. Anyway, I'll listen to "It Doesn't Matter" on the Dig Your Own Hole album by the Chemical Brothers and let it go. Everyone alright?
Fuck. I know better.... :mad: :)

PS. M, feel free to have Daisy delete without prejudice....

[milleson]

Much respect my friend I'll have to P.M ya back for sure,I'm out for da weekend....I apologize is this strikes milleson as bad ettiquite us rap'n on her thread!:D

You guys are cool with me. ;)

I think we're the only ones who come here anyway.

[milleson]

An additional hurdle for Dalai Lama. (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050418/asp/nation/story_4628679.asp)

The younger generation is ready for action.

I feel bad just posting a link, but the article sums everything up far better than I ever could.

[ericg]

HH probably not only respects that, but wishes to encourage it somehow. What do they expect him to do though? I mean, what else can he do? What other countries are willing to get and keep it on the tables right?

Oh shit here I go.
Countries (everybody) seem(s) to think that the apathetic or "only really in it for myself" response given to the question of what's right in these world situations (obviously relative but how big does not matter per se) isn't really going to matter to everything, or have whole effects... and it depreciates/ degenerates the whole world... what's up with that? It takes real plain and good commitment... to make it right, and it comes back really good with that kind of faith. How long and utterly stupid are people going to go on like this? Ahhh, man.

The governments rolling over everybody because we're so factioned and dispersed and have no solidarity and stability, not to mention any convictions that could last long the way this world has been... usurped and run. I could meet a thousand people a day who know better yet are just existing... and then there's the ones who couldn't imagine believing it's that bad so don't see it at all. The former are only making little speed bumps everywhere.
We need to make some phone calls and create a common denominator, a medium... forming a constitution designed in and for the original. Cutting anything that's tied in wrong. In distilling the good people of America we will have the power once again to make the mandates that matter well, taking care of the weakest person in the world, which ultimately makes it all better. How do we get off the ground without the government or it's corporations fucking it up... "...roots that grow underground are as big as the tree, that you see if not it will fall down..." -311: Grassroots
We keep it all undeniably right... come completely correct. Straight up. The American (International) Class Action of the century... Indictments galore for treason everwhere... some finished, others demoted... then here's our resources, technology, faculties of everything... all based on the pragmatics... health (physical, spiritual...) well being of the planet. There's a right answer for everything. There just is. There has to be. And it's NOT OIL. And someone out there has it, was born to contribute to the human race... and yet can't in real mean time because of the impeding, degenerative chain reaction that a feigned, corrupted, hang up of a government this nation has gone along with and been force led... economically or whatever... allowed it to become. Life could be so much better in all kinds of practical terms! People seem to be dead set on taking it to hell with them because there is no damn good "omnipresent" leaders around. They've all been takin' out. What is life worth without truth or good sense...!?! I hate to see shit everywhere. Why did we let it happen. OK, anyway, here I am, but you know... I don't have the contacts to facilitate this per se. I'm just a guy on the internet. Though it only takes 3 the hard way to prop it and make it happen. I mean, what's up good people of Hollywood? What's up good talk-radio? What's it all about big company. Get it together people. Form a base that will shake the snakes out of the tree JUST ON PRINCIPLE and common good.

I gotta turn every... and keep it reel, don't I. What else is there. Fuck I haven't even got started. I'm just up late in a dark corner of the house taliking my talk I guess... Fuck.

You keep your normal lives like it doesn't really mean anything and shit's not that bad, or whatever.... don't worry, your kids will never know the difference. Not you Milleson or McMoot. I don't know.

Peace.

PS. Let's get it together. Somethings got to give.

[MC Moot]

An additional hurdle for Dalai Lama. (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050418/asp/nation/story_4628679.asp)

The younger generation is ready for action.

I feel bad just posting a link, but the article sums everything up far better than I ever could.

I think this form of protest and or unrest has been building momentum for some time now. Non violence is being questiond by different sects in different monastary's...With all the political collusion occuring in the area I believe it may be time for those on the ground to raise the alarm or ring the bell,louder than ever,lest they be forgotten.

Direct action,direct response?

I don't know...when one forces China's hand they usually get the fist.

I realize the implications,I really do but I think Dalai Lama should return.

Even if only to face imprisonment or worse.

It's easy to be selfless with someone else's life and legacy on the line,I guess.

But really check your media,China is drawing more press protesting japanese war crimes that go back to WW.II as opposed to it's ongoing human rights violations and attrocity's that remain to carried on to this day....pot calling the freakin kettle black. It's ridiculous and the media should be shamed for the soap box sham it is. Tibet is off the international radar,Falun Gong and Taiwan merit some public attention but apathy abounds!

Hmmmmm...who's a little frustrated this morning?...I am,I am! :D