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Qdrop
04-12-2005, 08:41 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7463132/

Microsoft, Gateway settle antitrust suit

Software firm to pay PC maker $150 million

The Associated Press
Updated: 11:56 a.m. ET April 11, 2005

REDMOND, Wash. - Microsoft Corp., the world's biggest software maker, has agreed to pay Gateway Inc. $150 million over four years to settle a legal dispute and the companies will work together on the marketing and development of Gateway personal computing products.

As part of the settlement announced Monday, Gateway will release all antitrust claims against Microsoft based on past conduct. (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture.)

Gateway expects to use the funds for marketing initiatives, including advertising, sales training and consulting, as well as for the research, development and testing of new Gateway products that can run current Microsoft products and Microsoft's next-generation operating system and productivity software.

"Gateway continues to enjoy a strong relationship with Microsoft and we're pleased to put these legacy legal issues behind us," said Wayne Inouye, president and CEO of Gateway. "We look forward to even greater collaboration with Microsoft going forward as we work together towards the future of computing."


Gateway's claims arose from the United States v. Microsoft antitrust case in the mid-1990s, where Gateway was specifically identified in U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's findings as having been impacted in its business by practices on which he ruled against Microsoft.

Under the statute of limitations, the time period for Gateway to bring claims against Microsoft based on these findings of fact expired in late 2003. Before the expiration date, Microsoft and Gateway agreed to extend the period in order to explore a mutually beneficial solution.

The companies said today's agreement resulted from a recent mediation. Microsoft denies any liability to Gateway, but said it is "very pleased to be able to resolve our past differences in a constructive manner that will allow us to continue our focus on the interests of our mutual customers."

ASsman
04-12-2005, 11:03 AM
Well if Gateway is happy, I'm happy,

EN[i]GMA
04-12-2005, 02:13 PM
So Microsoft breaks the anti-trust laws and gets out of the charges via a bribe?

And you see why I think said laws are inefective when their used as nothing more than extortion methods.

Qdrop
04-12-2005, 02:17 PM
GMA']So Microsoft breaks the anti-trust laws and gets out of the charges via a bribe?

And you see why I think said laws are inefective when their used as nothing more than extortion methods.

agreed.

but it's something....

synch
04-12-2005, 02:21 PM
Microsofts legal department is one of the most amazing things ever. They always manage to twist something bad into something good for MS.

Just like when they had a zillion dollars to pay as a fine and offered free software to schools as (partial) payment. Of course this meant that schools would be running that free microsoft software instead of some other program which only strengthens the company's position because kids would be using their software.

It's so brilliant in it's simplicity...

Funkaloyd
04-12-2005, 05:23 PM
but it's something....

Gateway expects to use the funds for marketing initiatives, including advertising

Qdrop
04-13-2005, 06:38 AM
yeah.....and?

ASsman
04-13-2005, 04:02 PM
GMA']So Microsoft breaks the anti-trust laws and gets out of the charges via a bribe?

And you see why I think said laws are inefective when their used as nothing more than extortion methods.
Who said it broke any anti-trust laws. Wouldn't that make it a _____.

Funkaloyd
04-13-2005, 05:43 PM
...I just don't think this should be celebrated as a victory against either dirty capitalism or Microsoft. As in the case that ASsman posted, consumers aren't the winners here. Gateway and RealNetworks are just less successful Microsofts.

EN[i]GMA
04-13-2005, 06:06 PM
Who said it broke any anti-trust laws. Wouldn't that make it a _____.

..it would make it a trust, yes.

FunkyHiFi
04-13-2005, 08:26 PM
I think we would all be better off if computers had stayed the size of a Greyhound bus & only universities and NASA could buy & use them.

Because what FUNDAMENTAL improvement in people's lives have home computers caused?

Funkaloyd
04-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Define "fundamental improvement." They may not be delivering soup to the poor, but there a lot of medical and scientific benefits, and the decentralization of information is good for freedom and democracy.

FunkyHiFi
04-14-2005, 12:22 AM
Fundamental = overall happiness, amount of stress, daily ease-of-living.

The "big" stuff in other words--I don't mean trivial things like being able to buy tickets for a BB concert while sitting pool-side or being able to look up the latest info on stock prices.

As far as the political arena is concerned, I'm not really sure PCs have done much to truly help anyone since the bad guys can use them (via the Internet especially) just as effectively as the good guys to spread their garbage. I.e. it all balances out: -1 + 1 = 0

The medical/science thing: this is why I mentioned the big mainframes--we would still have advances in these fields (hell, that would happen even without them but at a slower pace obviously) but without what I feel are the disadvantages of them like now when practically every worker is chained to a PC, PDA, etc.

Ali
04-14-2005, 01:31 AM
Because what FUNDAMENTAL improvement in people's lives have home computers caused?Access to lots and lots and lots and LOTS of pron (http://nerve.fugacious.net/drf/archives/000210.html).

ASsman
04-14-2005, 10:55 AM
GMA']..it would make it a trust, yes.
AHA!

I would like this part of the transcript to be filed for later usage.

Anyways, have fun with Windows.

EN[i]GMA
04-14-2005, 01:53 PM
AHA!

I would like this part of the transcript to be filed for later usage.

Anyways, have fun with Windows.

You do that.