misappropriate hate of Paul Mcartney

[Humiliation]

Why do most people hate Paul Mcartney? I believe he never really got the credit he deserved. Firstly he was a great bass player. secondly he was actually trying to keep the band together, whilst John lennon and George Harrison both wanted to leave. thirdly he and lennon worked together so most of lennons songs may not have been as good without paul's additions. Fourthly he wrote great songs himself. I like to think of him as a musical craftsman. He didn't do anything particulaly ground breaking but he had a knack for creating good tunes. I'll also go to say that i believe he kept the beatles afloat sales wise. If the good albums had only lennon's music they wouldn't be as appealing to the public.

Accusations like "the wrong 2 beatles died" I find are too harsh.

[enree erzweglle]

Paul doesn't bother me. I know some people think that he was too much of a businessman, too schmaltzy, manipulative. I never got that from him.

From the interviews I've seen, he seems nearly humble--certainly his track record makes me think that he's sane and grounded all things considered. He was part of one of the best-known and most successful, groundbreaking, and influential bands ever; people won't forget him or his work. In light of those things, he seems pretty normal.

During the Anthology interview footage, the only time I heard attitude from him was when he faced accusations that white album should have been edited to a single album. His response to that was, "It's the Beatles bloody white album. Shut up." I think that was well deserved and justified, and liked not only what he said, but the way he said it.

[ms.peachy]

Who are these 'most people' :confused:

[enree erzweglle]

Who are these 'most people' :confused:

Don't know, but it seems to me that there's always been a group of people who didn't like Paul--who hated him, in fact. I wouldn't say they were the majority, but they're there.

When I was younger, I might have been in that group of people who didn't like Paul without the other three Beatles. I was basing my opinion on what he did with Wings, which I think I said I pretty much didn't like. But in the late 1980s, a friend--my first online friend ever--hooked me up with Paul's non-Wings stuff and I liked it. I more liked the lyrics in a lot of the songs (Tug of War and Pipes of Peace come to mind). I've never really hated Paul but I liked him a lot less before I really listened.

There are lots of ooooh baby photos of Paul where he's got a kind of shadowy beard--I always liked that sort of look on him. Paul at his prime. Personally, I think I overall liked George the best--not just the look of him but the way he lived his life.

[Documad]

I definitely don't have time to start this discussion. I agree with most of what enree said above. In a nutshell, I think Paul suffered from not being as cool as John (and let's face it, neither was as cool as Mick and Keith); from being too accessible and giving too many interviews, and thus saying a lot of stupid shit over a long time (who wouldn't given the sheer number of interviews); and not stopping before Give My Regards to Broadstreet, et al. But they were really young when they went through unprecedented insanity, and I wouldn't have lasted a week in a group with John Lennon.

After leaving, John gave that soul-searching Rolling Stone interview with Jann Wenner trashing Paul and the others, and it seemed like Paul spent most of the 70s trying to answer it, and digging a bigger hole each time. Paul made up a lot of ground in the Anthology interviews by finally admitting to some of his flaws.

If John had lived and made more albums, who knows what his reputation would be today. It's difficult to age gracefully. I wished he had the chance to take back or explain a lot of what he said. His voice was really missing from the Anthology thing, and the recorded comments were made when he was really bitter.

[abcdefz]

I also think Paul gets trashed unnecessarily. If nothing else, he's one of the great electric bass players we've had. The only folks who can match his melodic sense are probably Tina Weymouth and Mike Mills.

Band on the Run, I think you could argue, is the best solo album by any of the Beatles. I'd probably say JL/POB is better, but it's an apples and oranges thing.

[enree erzweglle]

Band on the Run, I think you could argue, is the best solo album by any of the Beatles. I'd probably say JL/POB is better, but it's an apples and oranges thing.

I'm using my whiney posting voice because that was a Wings thing and I hate Wings. That Wings sound put me off then and it still does. I particuarly hate that epic song (was it the title song?) that started out slowly and got big and that was played ad nauseum over too many radio stations. But then again what do I know because I also hated the Eagles Greatest Hits and anything by them, and Frampton Comes Alive. Do you feel like I do?

[abcdefz]

Awwww..... :(

[yeahwho]

I also think Paul gets trashed unnecessarily. If nothing else, he's one of the great electric bass players we've had.
(y) Paul knows the low notes. Really great bass player. Love Ram and that bowl of cherries album. Cool sound.

[enree erzweglle]

Awwww..... :(
Oh no, not the purple frowney face. The saddest emoticon of all.
I'll listen to a Wings song of your choosing if it would turn the purple into yellow.

[Freebasser]

electric bass

A gagillion points for knowing the correct name (y)

Accusations like "the wrong 2 beatles died" I find are too harsh.

How is that an accusation? :confused:

[abcdefz]

Oh no, not the purple frowney face. The saddest emoticon of all.
I'll listen to a Wings song of your choosing if it would turn the purple into yellow.



"Let Me Roll It" :)

[abcdefz]

A gagillion points for knowing the correct name (y)




Wow! What can I redeem my points for?

Yeah, well, anyway... a guy with a Charles Mingus avatar can't very well go saying Paul McCartney is among our greatest bass players.

[enree erzweglle]

"Let Me Roll It" :)

Yay...a yellow face. Because of that color, I went to iTunes to buy that song. I'd do that for yellow. But it's not there. Do you know where I can listen to it so that things stay yellow?

[DroppinScience]

I have a feeling any Paul resentment has to do with his post-Beatles career.

To be frank, a lot of it is pretty sub-par (save for "Live and Let Die," of course (y) ).

What made The Beatles special was the John/Paul dynamic. Together they complimented each other wonderfully, so he'll always be recognized for that.

[enree erzweglle]

To be frank, a lot of it is pretty sub-par (save for "Live and Let Die," of course (y) ).

That's the song I hate! That's it. Live & Let Die. I hate that song. HATE. Eeew.

I do like the live version of Maybe I'm Amazed.

And I like "Junk" from McCartney, but only because I didn't hear Paul sing it originally. A guitar-playing friend always does that one to sort of warm up to and I loved that song--rather, I loved the way he did it. I didn't know it was a Paul song for years and then when I heard Paul's version, I hated it but still held a special place for it because it reminds me of my guitar-playing friend.

The same thing happened with "Running on Faith." My friend played that one for years before I heard Eric Clapton's version and it took me a long time to warm up to it but I ultimately did. Now I like both equally. My friend is the most amazing guitar player that I haven't paid to hear.

[abcdefz]

Yay...a yellow face. Because of that color, I went to iTunes to buy that song. I'd do that for yellow. But it's not there. Do you know where I can listen to it so that things stay yellow?



Awww.... it stays yellow just because you tried.

I wonder if it's an Apple thing... I know that (the Beatles') Apple sued (Jobs') Apple because Apple was allowed to use the Beatles' company name as long as they never got into music....

Anyway, it's a song that's on Band on the Run. Nice, kinda dirty bluesy number.










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....that was just for you. I never do that stuff. :)

[MC Moot]

Why do most people hate Paul Mcartney?Accusations like "the wrong 2 beatles died" I find are too harsh.

I don't think it's a matter of hate,not for me,not at all.....I think the fact that he continues to play Beatles tunes,all though they are largely compositions which he wrote,to be unsavory. That is both highly judgemental and critical,oh well so be it. Also as a solo artist how would you rank them? I know I would have liked to hear more Lennon or Harrison work than "Wings" or Ringo's traveling circus of B-grade musicians,again a highly critical or cynical statement.The bodies of work Harrison and Lennon left behind are untouched with regards to quality and relevance,regardless of Pauls output.
Plus once you play the "superbowl" 1/2 time show you are forever tarnished in my eyes...even if you are the allmighty U2.
"Freedom" is mediocrity through and through.

So for me the George Carlin line "The wrong 2 Beatles died first" is a little dark and totally true. ;)

[enree erzweglle]

Awww.... it stays yellow just because you tried.
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....that was just for you. I never do that stuff. :)

I am in smiley heaven. I'm going to squirrel each of them away for a rainy day. So sweet.

And a friend at work is bringing in his Band on the Run CD for me to borrow. Yes, he admitted to owning it.

[abcdefz]

I am in smiley heaven. I'm going to squirrel each of them away for a rainy day. So sweet.


(y)



And a friend at work is bringing in his Band on the Run CD for me to borrow. Yes, he admitted to owning it.



You might be surprised how good it is, then you realize he didn't have anything to be ashamed of.

[lionelcrush]

PAUL IS GOD AND PAUL AND LENNON TOGETHER ARE SOMETHING MORE THAN GOD.... KIDS R GONNA LOVE THE BEATLES AND THEIR SONGS FOREVER ! NOT FOR 10 20 OR 30 YEARS BUT LIKE 1OO'S OF YEARS SERIOUSLY THEY MADE THE BEST SHIT

[abcdefz]

PAUL IS GOD AND PAUL AND LENNON TOGETHER ARE SOMETHING MORE THAN GOD.... KIDS R GONNA LOVE THE BEATLES AND THEIR SONGS FOREVER ! NOT FOR 10 20 OR 30 YEARS BUT LIKE 1OO'S OF YEARS SERIOUSLY THEY MADE THE BEST SHIT




...the "caps lock" is that button over to the left, there. :D

[lionelcrush]

YEA BUT WERE TALKING ABOUT MCCARTNEY NOT UR BALLS

[enree erzweglle]

You might be surprised how good it is, then you realize he didn't have anything to be ashamed of.
This conversation sounds eerily identical to the one I had with my friend who got me into Paul to begin with. He tried to talk me out of my Paul ambivalence years ago and while I never got into Wings, I did get into solo Paul. I wonder if you're my friend using an alias. Wouldn't that be so freaky. Tell me how big your CD collection is and what your nickname for me is. Then I'll tell you what you dressed up for as Halloween circa 1995. Then I'll know for sure. :)

Thanks again for the yellow.

[b-grrrlie]

Paul was actually my favourite Beatle and I liked the Wings as well. Venus and Mars, I'd still remember all the lyrics, and I think we had Band on the run on tape first...

[abcdefz]

This conversation sounds eerily identical to the one I had with my friend who got me into Paul to begin with. He tried to talk me out of my Paul ambivalence years ago and while I never got into Wings, I did get into solo Paul. I wonder if you're my friend using an alias. Wouldn't that be so freaky. Tell me how big your CD collection is and what your nickname for me is. Then I'll tell you what you dressed up for as Halloween circa 1995. Then I'll know for sure. :)

Thanks again for the yellow.


My CD collection has been pared down over the years. Probably about 150 now, and no LPs.

Your nickname, clearly, is Pookie. That or Snugglebunny.

I didn't dress up for Halloween in 1995, but in 1994 I was stuck in a Speedo, given a cane, painted gold and went as an Oscar statue.

....Band on the Run is the one Paul Mc&Wings album that's closest to being a Paul solo album, actually. He and Linda and Denny Lane flew to Africa and did the recordings by themselves, just overdubbing and stuff. Paul's not the greatest drummer, but they got it done.

"Jet," "Band on the Run," "Helen Wheels," and "Picasso's Last Words" are other highlights.

[enree erzweglle]

My CD collection has been pared down over the years. Probably about 150 now, and no LPs.

Okay, that's the deal-breaker--my online friend's collection is in the 1000s last I asked.


Your nickname, clearly, is Pookie. That or Snugglebunny.

Fuck. I sound like a Pookie or Snugglebunny. That's so funny. Although a guy friend does call me schmoopie after the seinfeld schmoopie schmoopie thingie.


I didn't dress up for Halloween in 1995, but in 1994 I was stuck in a Speedo, given a cane, painted gold and went as an Oscar statue.

It's a good visual, but again, deal-breaker. Friend went as mr. invisible.


....Band on the Run is the one Paul Mc&Wings album that's closest to being a Paul solo album, actually. He and Linda and Denny Lane flew to Africa and did the recordings by themselves, just overdubbing and stuff. Paul's not the greatest drummer, but they got it done.


I love that about him--that he plays the instruments and just got into the whole thing. I always liked his relationship with Linda too...good one.

Okay, I'll listen to that entire album but I'm going to be miserable and stuck in the 70s all weekend. If you hear of someone going on a postal like rampage along the east coast, think of me and weep.

[DandyFop]

He's always seemed like an egotistical jackass to me. I don't mind some of his music (I love Band On The Run), but other than that he's always rubbed me the wrong way. But I do have to give him credit for causing my obsession with the Beatles when I was younger. I saw HELP and thought he was soooo cuu-uute before I moved onto George.

[abcdefz]

Okay, I'll listen to that entire album but I'm going to be miserable and stuck in the 70s all weekend. If you hear of someone going on a postal like rampage along the east coast, think of me and weep.




Free your mind, Pookie...

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee your miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind, Pookie...

You are on a white cloud.... a lazy white cloud.... floating.... floating....

[PaddyBoy]

I think Paul McCartney is great, he's always been my 'favourite Beatle'. In the 60's and 70's the guy wrote classic songs probably on a daliy basis, he was unbelievable. Like Kramer says: "He's so prolific!"

He's completely underrated, especially by todays generation I suppose (I'm 24). He never seems to be rated in the top 10 in the all time great top 10 lists, which is ridiculous really. Its all because, as someone said earlier, he doesn't come across as cool as the others. He's a bit too cheery, thumbs-up happy for some people. Also, Mull of Kintyre.

Favourite Beatle/Macca song: I'll Follow The Sun.

[enree erzweglle]

Free your mind, Pookie...

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee your miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind, Pookie...

You are on a white cloud.... a lazy white cloud.... floating.... floating....
mmmmmmm pookie haaaaaaaaaaaappy

[Documad]

I loved Wings as a kid. A lot of it is awful, but some of it still sounds great to me.

I was always puzzled by Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey--what was that about? I loved Band on the Run and Live and Let Die and all of it. I still love Another Day and With a Little Luck.

Embarrassing confession. Mull of Kintyre still gives me goose pimples sometimes. It's the bagpipes, right?

Worst hit was Listen to What the Man Said.


I was more a George fan as a kid, and so he'll always have a place in my heart, but the more I read about him, the less I like him, so I pretty much quit reading about him.

[PaddyBoy]

Worst hit was Listen to What the Man Said.



WHAT! Boo you.

Worst was C Moon or Pipes of Peace.

[abcdefz]

I was always puzzled by Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey--what was that about? I loved Band on the Run and Live and Let Die and all of it. I still love Another Day and With a Little Luck.



So many of his great songs are just gibberish. That's a weakness, I guess, but the stuff is strong enough that it's kind of like complaining that "Tutti Fruity" is nonsense.

[venusvenus123]

Band on the Run is probably one of my favourite albums... something to do with it being around during a happy part of my childhood or something. I'm sure that the Uncle Albert thing has some kind of personal significance for umm sir paul.

he's obviously a musical genius, and it's not exactly surprising that he's a little egotistical. still, i think he's a bit stingey -- according to the sunday times rich list, last year he made £800m but was nowhere to be seen on the rich people who give to charity list. i know this is a really naive thing to say but what can he possibly need all that money for?

oh yeah, and he married a pathological liar, heather mills. boo hiss. (n)

by the way, it should be inappropriate, not misappropriate, which basically means to steal.

[HEIRESS]

last week was "let's listen to 'let me roll it' 80 times in a row week"

fah real

I adore Wings

Im also naming my first born Jet

[abcdefz]

last week was "let's listen to 'let me roll it' 80 times in a row week"

fah real





....that's TWO recommendations, enree! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) etc.

[venusvenus123]

ok, now i'm gonna have to dig the album out... i don't think there's one dud track on there.

[PaddyBoy]

Im also naming my first born Jet

"JET! ooohh..." My buddy and I like to shout that out when it comes on. Actually, he bought the Wings greatest hit double CD just for that song.

[abcdefz]

Im also naming my first born Jet



...you and Mrs. Li think alike.

[enree erzweglle]

....that's TWO recommendations, enree! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) etc.

I am so screwed. Tomorrow is listening day.

[abcdefz]

....with all this hype, you're kind of being put in a position where you might have to hate it.

[enree erzweglle]

....with all this hype, you're kind of being put in a position where you might have to hate it.
I can put the bias aside for 4 minutes. ;)

[venusvenus123]

SHE MAY BE RIGHT,
SHE MAY BE FINE,
SHE MAY GET LOVE BUT SHE WON'T GET MINE COS I GOT YOOOOOOU,
OH I.... OH I

WELL I JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF THAT SWEET STUFF
MY LITTLE LADY GETS BEHIND.....

[abcdefz]

Wow. Remember how "1985" used to sound like science fiction?

This was an early memory of mine, too, venus. The first time I ever heard a record and consciously knew it wasn't just a collection of songs, but a whole album... it was Band on the Run. We were playing spoons in some family friends' cottage, down in the basement. I would've been about six? One of the teenagers threw the album on and I was mesmerized... wound up going to the record player and watching this green apple rotating around and around while the music played. It was revelatory.

[enree erzweglle]

Hate you abcdefz because the thing is? I know "let me roll it" and I love that song. It's taken me several minutes to type that last sentence and to salvage a tiny bit of myself, I did remove italics from one word in it. I've heard that song over the years and didn't know where it came from. Fuck.

Okay, so I don't actually have Band on the Run to listen to. I thought that's what work-friend was bringing. Instead I have a big-assed compilation of PM songs and can make some of BotR up from it. And from what I've heard:

. Band on the Run (I thought I hated this song, but it just started playing and it didn't bring up as much stomach bile as I thought it would. In fact, I might listen all the way through.)

. Jet (I liked the arrangement of some of this song but overall I dislike/d it. I could listen to it again and I will, but I ain't promising anyone roses.)

. Bluebird (I like the base song itself but I hate some of the Wingsish sort of harmonies/background vocals. The "You're a bluebird, you're a bluebird, you're a bluebird" part is what I hate and that's largely a Wings sort of sound. It's what, I think, makes me not like Wings music much.)

. Let Me Roll It (Fuck.)

. Helen Wheels (Fuck fuck. I didn't know this song was on BoTR because I've always liked it. There are some slightly Wingsish harmonies/background vocals in it, but it's not bad--not overdone. And I didn't know it was "Helen Wheels" I always sang along as "hell on wheels.")

[I am seeing a pattern here and I am so screwed.]

I don't have the other songs (Mrs. Vanderbilt, Mamunia, Picasso's Last Words, & Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five) but given the track record above, I probably know at least half of them and probably like at least half of THOSE.

You know the little bit of history-rewriting PM did wrt Let It Be Naked where he sort of shucked away all of Spector's superfluousness? Maybe he'll do that with the Wings stuff and remove those annoying-to-me Wingsy vocals. I could handle that a lot better, I think. Hope I didn't cause a coronary for you Wings fans.

Damn you abcdefz. I will have a bad (aka non-spongebob-ish) dream about you tonight with nary a recent offsetting visual other than that oscar statuette thing, which will do.

And despite all of this, there's no way I could ever tolerate the "listen to what the man says" song or the one with "someone knocking at the door" or the one he did with Michael Jackson, and especially not the one with those people who are apologizing to Uncle Albert. (That Uncle Albert song always made me think of what it would be like to be trapped in a closed-up-after-the-season-is-over broken down amusement park. With clowns. And bad ice-cream truck music. And Uncle Albert doing things he shouldn't. Seems that maybe those kids shouldn't be the ones apologizing. I always hated that song.)

Sorry to have typed so much but at least I didn't talk about the gym or exercise in this post. That's a step forward for me in the eyes of some of you although I want desperately to talk about it after having brought up images of pervert Albert.

[abcdefz]

I'm not being sarcastic when I say that post was very sweet. (y)

Yeah... the Wingsish harmonies are a hiccup in the arrangements, just like the silly high-pitched harmonies in a bunch of ELO's stuff is a hinderence. It can become part of the charm, maybe -- in Paul's case, he was making room for Linda to have something to do.

There was actually a bootleg back in the day of all Linda McCartney backing vocals. They took a bunch of songs or maybe even just an album and stripped everything away except her voice. Kind of cruel, in a way, to make a point.

For the most part, if you're ever going to like a McCartney album, it's going to be Band on the Run; kind of the same way that if you want to make an argument for Rod Stewart, you pull out Every Picture Tells a Story. It's just generally regarded as The One, and then you know you at least gave 'em a chance.

Very cool of you.

By the way, if you ever want to hear a McCartney duet that pretty much works, he did a song called "What's That You're Doing?" with Stevie Wonder, and it's a pretty respectable piece of funk. Paul plays funky bass, Stevie plays funky, squiggly synth. It's on Tug of War -- I'm not sure if it made it onto any of the compilations.

[enree erzweglle]

Thanks for that, abcdefz, but you are kidding when you mention Rod Stewart, yes. Tell me you're not starting some subliminal thing where someone says, "Hmmm, Rod Stewart. Ahhh, his best work was X." And then I barf out semi-digested disbelieving horrified objection only to have to force myself into hearing some of his drivel because there ain't no way.

The best thing ELO did--Wilbury's notwithstanding--was JL's work on Cloud Nine. I loved that album even though some of those Bee Gees like vocals could have been binned or tamed. I can't think of ELO without thinking of a tight-white-jeans-wearing old friend who loved ELO, Xanadu, and The Tubes all at the same time. He still does. He plays air electronics to ELO and The Tubes.

[abcdefz]

ELO's best album is Eldorado, hands down. Then Jeff started realizing how to craft "hits," and the best of that bunch is probably A New World Record.


But, yeah -- as said before, no one has sold out his talent so throughly as Rod Stewart; but, for a time, the talent was amazing. And Every Picture Tells a Story is it. The Faces were backing him, and it's a fantastic record. Truly, I tells ya, but that doesn't obligate you in any way.

Did you see Almost Famous? If you did, do you remember when Penny Lane is taking William to his first hotel party, and they're in the car (acoustic intro in the background) and she's saying if you ever get lonely, you can go to the record store and visit your friends... then there's the smash cut and the music is now fully rocking: "Spent some time/Feeling inferior/standing in front of my mirror/Combed my hair in a thousand ways/But it came out looking just the same"? That's "Every Picture Tells a Story."

[mickill]

Ugh. Get a room, people.


I have nothing against Paul, really, but it's no secret that the majority of the fruitiest songs in the Beatles repertoire were penned by him. And as far as 'Band On The Run' being the best solo album by any of them, I vastly prefer Harrison's 'All Things Must Pass' and Lennon's 'Imagine'. The title song to that album probably is his best work apart from his contributions to The Beatles, though.

A few years ago, I inherited near mint copies of all the early McCartney/Wings albums (from his first album up to London Town), and I spent a week listening to nothing but those records. Apart from 'McCartney', 'BOTR' and a few select songs here and there, I really wasn't all too impressed with any of it. Granted, Harrison's solo catalog is hardly stellar, Starr probably fared the worst (but his 'Ringo' album is easily among the ten best Beatles solo albums) and even Lennon only had about 4 good albums as a solo artist, so it's not like Paul was alone or anything.

[enree erzweglle]

Ugh. Get a room, people.

Not if Rod Stewart is involved.

I love/d Imagine and ATMP even more, although I never much cared for the songs on that fourth side (what's a side?!?).

[abcdefz]

All Things Must Pass just never grabbed me. I should hear it again, though -- I haven't listened to it in years.

Imagine is a good album, but really overrated. JL/POB is worth two Imagines, in my mind.

I think Lennon had the most interesting career of all of them -- he's one of the few artists (like Coltrane) whose body of work is truly searching -- but, like I said, I think you could make a good case for Band on the Run being the best solo album among them. Again -- I prefer JL/POB, but I wouldn't look down my nose at someone who thought Band on the Run was the best. I reserve that for someone who wants to make a claim for, say, Mind Games or, say, 33 1/3.

[Documad]

By the way, if you ever want to hear a McCartney duet that pretty much works, he did a song called "What's That You're Doing?" with Stevie Wonder, and it's a pretty respectable piece of funk. Paul plays funky bass, Stevie plays funky, squiggly synth. It's on Tug of War -- I'm not sure if it made it onto any of the compilations.
Okay, you finally made a wrong step. Yes, it's better than the other horrid duets, but it's still pretty bad. :D

I've never enjoyed listening to a John Lennon solo album. A song here and there, yes. Whenever I was young and heard a Beatles song I liked but didn't recognize, it was always a Ringo solo one.


Re: Rod Stewart: It's difficult to set aside the ass he became and enjoy the great, early Rod Stewart. But it's worth it.

When I started reading about rock music in the late 70s, the critics were still obsessed with what Rod had been and how he had betrayed them. It took me a long time to understand.

[abcdefz]

Okay, you finally made a wrong step. Yes, it's better than the other horrid duets, but it's still pretty bad. :D




Is it? I remember it being.... well, respectable. I'd like to hear it again sometime to double-check; I remember that bass line and the synth line, and that was good stuff. I know Paul's straining too much to sing soulfully, and it's a pretty silly song, but I thought it was decent. And you gotta love that part of the chorus when Stevie's sort of barking "I-kinda-lika-whatcha-doin-tomebabynow."

[abcdefz]

Re: Rod Stewart: It's difficult to set aside the ass he became and enjoy the great, early Rod Stewart. But it's worth it.

When I started reading about rock music in the late 70s, the critics were still obsessed with what Rod had been and how he had betrayed them. It took me a long time to understand.



Oh, God, yes. And now that I've been hearing the Faces music, too.... oh, man.


"Rarely has anyone betrayed his talent so completely." --Greil Marcus

[enree erzweglle]

"Rarely has anyone betrayed his talent so completely." --Greil Marcus
See for me, it's all about the attitude and hair. With R.S., I can't get past either.

[Documad]

"Rarely has anyone betrayed his talent so completely." --Greil Marcus
I was going to say that! It's quoted in the Lester Bangs' Rod Stewart biography.

Now I'm going to have to dig out my old Tug of War vinyl too. I remember is that the song about Lennon was pretty good.

[PaddyBoy]

All Things Must Pass just never grabbed me. I should hear it again, though -- I haven't listened to it in years.

Imagine is a good album, but really overrated. JL/POB is worth two Imagines, in my mind.

I think Lennon had the most interesting career of all of them -- he's one of the few artists (like Coltrane) whose body of work is truly searching -- but, like I said, I think you could make a good case for Band on the Run being the best solo album among them. Again -- I prefer JL/POB, but I wouldn't look down my nose at someone who thought Band on the Run was the best. I reserve that for someone who wants to make a claim for, say, Mind Games or, say, 33 1/3.


All Things Must Pass is really a brilliant album. Listen to Apple Scruffs, Awaiting On You All, My Sweet Lord, etc. they are all GREAT songs. Also his version of 'If Not For You' is far better than Dylan's original.

[PaddyBoy]

Sorry to have typed so much but at least I didn't talk about the gym or exercise in this post. That's a step forward for me in the eyes of some of you although I want desperately to talk about it after having brought up images of pervert Albert.

Why, do you usually post a lot about gyms and exercising?

[likeOMG!]

according to the sunday times rich list, last year he made £800m but was nowhere to be seen on the rich people who give to charity list. i know this is a really naive thing to say but what can he possibly need all that money for?
I love how celebrities and rich people are pinned responsible to give to charity by default.

[abcdefz]

See for me, it's all about the attitude and hair. With R.S., I can't get past either.



Maybe when he's dead.

Right now, I can just barely hear Michael Jackson's music or see a Woody Allen film. It's all so tainted by weirdness and perversity.

[venusvenus123]

I love how celebrities and rich people are pinned responsible to give to charity by default.

well it makes sense to me... they have a stupid amount of money.

i'd just think better of him if he donated some of his stupid amount of money to charity.

[abcdefz]

I love how celebrities and rich people are pinned responsible to give to charity by default.

True, but don't you think that, at a crtain point, there's a moral obligation to give back?

With all the non-profit work he and Linda used to do, I'd be surprised if he's not big on charitable giving. Maybe he just doesn't claim it on his taxes or something. What little I give is certainly not a matter of public record; I'm not real big on giving-so-I-can-shelter-it.

[yeahwho]

I found a dime lodged between an old tire and the sidewalk once.

Thanks, I feel better.

[The Eric H Show]

Paul McCartney is one of the most talented musicians of all time.