Voting time

[timmie]

[BeastieRunner]

Wrong place dude :(

[ericg]

What do U think?

[Freebasser]

Erm.... tories ARE conservatives :confused:

[Ali]

Erm.... tories ARE conservatives :confused:Labour are the new Conservatives. Tories are nowhere.

[synch]

It's the cool thing to do now, move to the right. Labour are Tories, Tories became BNP and BNP is now so far right that they went full circle and ended up left.

[Whois]

E - None of the above.

[IDIOTSVILLE]

Voting Day Tommorow

[discopants]

Labour are the new Conservatives. Tories are nowhere.

Are you fucking insane?
Labour are trying to be Liberals- no law and order, not allowing the police to do their fucking job, Blair trying to be president of Europe.

[Freebasser]

I just went to vote, and outside the polling station were loads of Labour posters, put up this morning.

That's fucking sickened me to my stomach (n)

Come on Lib Dems! :(

[roosta]

how can there be tories and conservatives?

[Freebasser]

Because the poll-starter is a retard.

[roosta]

ahhh......i see.

haha, lib dems arnt gonna get near that. just like john kerry all over...

[Freebasser]

Yeah, I know Lib Dems won't win, especially in Wolverhampton :(

But I'd rather vote Lib Dem and have one of either Conservatives or Labour win, than vote for one of those two parties. I might as well try and help close the gap.

[Whois]

I'd vote for Hitler...

[Ace42]

Our Lib Dem MP is great. I am hoping he'll hold his seat, which is relatively likely. Despite the Tories wheeling in Boris Johnson's dad to fight it.

[Freebasser]

Fucking Labour victory on the cards :mad: :( :( :(

[yeahwho]

A wee bit of the Daily Show (http://homepage.mac.com/onegoodmove/movies/ds050405blair.html).

[Ace42]

Some impressive opposition gains. Labour managed to lose the "Safest seat in Wales" (Bleaneau Gwent) to *an independant candidate*.

43% swing.

There have been some monstorous swings away from the labour majority.

Labour are currently fifteen seats down, lib dem and tory up six and seven respectively, SNP and Independants up a seat each.

I'll keep you people posted.

Reg Keys, whose son was killed in Iraq, managed to take 10% of the vote in Blair's safe seat of Sedgefield.

[Freebasser]

How about that huge swing to the Independent candidate in Blaenau Gwent? That was impressive (y)

I'm still annoyed at the fact that if only more people had bothered to get off their arses, Lib Dems could very well have a few more seats.

[Ace42]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/constituencies/default.stm

For those following, but from areas of inferior news cover.

Incidently, my constituency just was called, 3% swing to Lib Dem, who hold. Excellent. Screw you Boris Johnson's dad, who ate at a restaurant a friend of mine works at a few days ago!

If only she were a guy, she could've jerked off in his food...

That idiot Kilroy-Silk got just 1% or so more than the BNP candidate... Hah Hah Hah. Although that is a 5% swing in his favour.

36.2% of the popular vote wins 56% of the seats. Lowest popular vote of all time.

The gorgeous Sarah Tether still holds Brent East that she won in the recent by-election.

[Ace42]

342 Lab
175 Tory
55 LD
12 Other.

Of those others, a notable one was "Cheeky" George Galloway.

[D_Raay]

So Ace, what happens now? Will Brown backers force Blair out of his prime minister slot and insert Brown? I hear he is mostly reponsible for the good economy over there. Oh and cheers to all you brits on selecting the anti-war guy, "cheeky", as Ace called him. Well his constituents anyway.

[Ace42]

So Ace, what happens now? Will Brown backers force Blair out of his prime minister slot and insert Brown?

Hard to say. Labour have lost a lot of the popular vote shares, and if there was proportional representation, they'd only just have more than a third of the votes. However, they still have a substantial majority in the house, and the party is pretty damn stuffed with the Blairites. 64 seat majority is the current forcast. To put that into perspective, the entire Lib Dem party (seats) could fit into that surplus of bodies. 64 surplus seats, and in this election, they have lost 45 seats with 41 seats left to go before all the results are in.

The Brownites might well think this is a golden opportunity to give Blair a gentle shove, but I'd wager at least one year before Blair steps down, quite possibly two.

I hear he is mostly reponsible for the good economy over there.

Most cited reason, certainly. Personally I think it has a lot more to do with the numerous socio-economic factors as opposed to direct political intervention. The 80s were a quirky time of boom and bust here - big money and big recessions. I think that says more about the 80s than various budgetary policies.

Oh and cheers to all you brits on selecting the anti-war guy, "cheeky", as Ace called him. Well his constituents anyway.

I'm not so sure about George. While I can sympathise with his viewpoint, and I think a lot of people were likewise impressed by the conviction of his rhetoric, and also his image has been sullied by the (proven to be libelous) negative smear campaign aimed at him, he does strike me as too inflammatory to be a good *genuine* politician.

He gave Jeremy Paxman the sharp edge of his tongue. Understandable, Jeremy was being quite out of order with his implications, but not very statesmanlike.

Time will tell, but hell, it's cheeky George - party of one. What harm can he do?

[D_Raay]

Time will tell, but hell, it's cheeky George - party of one. What harm can he do?
Well hopefully a little speaking from an American's point of view. Anyone anti-war now deserves a shot...

[Freebasser]

Tell that to the thousands of voters too scared to vote Lib Dem because they thought the Tories would get in (and why do they believe this? - Labour propaganda of course).

Two words - HUNG PARLIAMENT

[Ali]

I hear he is mostly reponsible for the good economy over there.Tories are responsible for the good economy. They filled the coffers by flogging trains, drains, etc. just before they got kicked out.

Labour have been riding that wave ever since.

The money's going to run out soon. Then we'll see...

Some interesting comments on the BBC site. Reminds me a bit of when the Guardian ran that stupid campaign to allow Brits to email US voters (or whatever it was).

No matter how you slice it, Blair has been vindicated. He has won three in a row, each with an impressively large majority.
Andrew, Washington DC

How on earth could the people in the UK allow this bunch of Muppets to be re-elected? Well they have another four - five years in power, plenty of time to really make a mess of our lives and country.
Iain, UK
Spot the difference?

more comments (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/have_your_say/4520515.stm)

[Ali]

Tell that to the thousands of voters too scared to vote Lib Dem because they thought the Tories would get in (and why do they believe this? - Labour propaganda of course).
I thought so too. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/gainsandlosses_lab.stm) But they lost more seats to the Tories than Lib Dems.

[Dr Sputnik Phd]

Blair will be gone within 6 months and brown will be primeminster, and blair will go down in history as the primeminister who ignored what the public wanted and went to war withg iraq.

As for who should be in power......i say the green party. I know i'll probably get backlash for saying that, but they are the only party who realise how big a problem global warming is....at the rate we're going 50 years from now, most of the world will be unhabitable.

[Ace42]

but they are the only party who realise how big a problem global warming is...

You're lucky Qdrop isn't reading this thread...

[minorthreat]

by the way mate the tories are the conservatives. and i voted lib dems...and they lost

[Freebasser]

they are the only party who realise how big a problem global warming is

Bollocks!

[Dr Sputnik Phd]

Bollocks!

Well maybe i was just brainwashed by the green candidate who came round knocking on our door.

[IDIOTSVILLE]

I'd vote for Hitler...

It's Your Choice

[Ali]

Blair fighting backbench attacks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4528009.stm)

Tony Blair is expected to reveal the final shape of his ministerial team, amid growing calls for him to quit.
The prime minister has been urged to stand aside within months rather than years after Labour's disappointing performance in the general election.

One critic, Frank Dobson, said Mr Blair was a "liability" but Work and Pensions Secretary David Blunkett branded the backbenchers "self indulgent".

Mr Blair will complete his team by naming junior ministers.

On Friday, several senior posts were filled in a Cabinet reshuffle that saw the return of Mr Blunkett to government.

Monday's announcements will be examined carefully for their significance over the possible future direction of the government, said BBC political correspondent John Pienaar.

'Enormous liability'

The prime minister has been under growing attack since his majority was slashed from 161 to 67.

Former Cabinet ministers Frank Dobson and Robin Cook on Sunday joined the roll-call of MPs calling for him to stand down.

Former health secretary Mr Dobson said: "He was an enormous liability in this general election.

"If he had not been leader I doubt whether we would have lost a seat. We would probably have gained some."

Robin Cook, who quit the Cabinet over the Iraq war, said: "The question Tony Blair should be reflecting on this weekend is ... whether now might be a better time to let a new leader in who could then achieve the unity we need if we are going to go forward."

But David Blunkett led a counter-attack branding critics "self indulgent".

Those saying the PM should go were trying to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory", the new work and pensions secretary said.

Labour election adviser Alastair Campbell insisted Mr Blair was "absolutely right" to serve a full third term as he promised.

"Those who write him off today are doing so very, very prematurely," he warned. Oh boy. When you have a cnut like Campbell and a dodgy fuck like Blunkett backing you, who needs enemies?