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QueenAdrock
05-10-2005, 06:15 PM
Hey guys, do any of you have any good websites describing the world's reaction to Bush being re-elected? Post 'em up if you can.

Kthx.

QueenAdrock
05-10-2005, 07:58 PM
oh, im sorry. i meant someone CREDIBLE.

Rosie Cotton
05-11-2005, 04:34 PM
If you look at the county map of this great nation, most if it is RED.
And most of the red areas are small, remote, rural towns with very few people. Let's face it, Bush winning Nebraska isn't all that impressive.

QueenAdrock
05-11-2005, 05:47 PM
Seriously. And like I've said before, the only way that Bush would win was if it was rigged. And it's so easy when the people designing the voting machines said they'd do "anything" to keep Bush in power. Only a dumbass would blindly believe that Bush won every vote, fair and square.

But the point of this post wasn't to talk about how America voted, or didn't vote, rather. The point was to ask about links to the WORLD'S reaction. Because I believe that majority of the world was against Bush's re-election. I find it interesting, why half of this country is so stubborn and have their heads up their asses, and don't even care if majority of the world says they're wrong. I'm trying to find a website that would back up the view that the world hates Bush.

But, no. Thank you Gmsisko, for that wonderful link of America, broken down county by county. Unfortunately, you, like many other Americans, don't realize that the term "America" is NOT the same as the term "World." But I do appreciate your effort.

sjp
05-11-2005, 09:55 PM
i think he's a twink pooftershim.

Ali
05-12-2005, 06:40 AM
And most of the red areas are small, remote, rural towns with very few people. Let's face it, Bush winning Nebraska isn't all that impressive.Look at the BBC UK Election Result Map (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/default.stm). Most of it is blue (Tory) yet Labour got 356 seats compared with the Tories' 197.

If the UK used the same logic as the US, the Tories would have walked it!

Qdrop
05-12-2005, 08:45 AM
yes, the facts are that the liberals are in a slight, yet legitamate minority....period.

the election was not rigged...at least in no substantial way that has credible backing to it.

face it....bush and his minions are simply greater in numbers.
his administration used an appeal to religious zealotry and bigotry and fear to muster up a majority vote.

the problem is, the republicans KNOW who they are. they KNOW who thier base is.

the democrats do not.


i think that really stems from an inherrant problem from having higher education and intellectuals in the democratic party.

the ignorant, the jingoistic, the religious, the uneducated....they are easily led and controlled....thier instincts to "rally 'round the flag" are far easier to pull on with their more primative cognative patterns.
it's kinda like that old hollywood stereotype where the explorers come upon a primative tribe...and use fire from a lighter to wow them...and all the tribesman bow to thier new masters....
you just appeal to thier primative minds....that's the republican party.


the educated intellectuals tend to be far more divided, IMO. everyone has thier own complex beliefs and views on government and society...and through education, tend to gain a very real and rather depressing understanding of our beaurocracy and gov't....and tend to be left apathetic.
it's alot harder to round up such troops, and to get them to agree on common ideals and goals.

Ali
05-12-2005, 09:16 AM
yes, the facts are that the liberals are in a slight, yet legitamate minority....period.

the election was not rigged...at least in no substantial way that has credible backing to it.

face it....bush and his minions are simply greater in numbers.
his administration used an appeal to religious zealotry and bigotry and fear to muster up a majority vote.

the problem is, the republicans KNOW who they are. they KNOW who thier base is.

the democrats do not.


i think that really stems from an inherrant problem from having higher education and intellectuals in the democratic party.

the ignorant, the jingoistic, the religious, the uneducated....they are easily led and controlled....thier instincts to "rally 'round the flag" are far easier to pull on with their more primative cognative patterns.
it's kinda like that old hollywood stereotype where the explorers come upon a primative tribe...and use fire from a lighter to wow them...and all the tribesman bow to thier new masters....
you just appeal to thier primative minds....that's the republican party.


the educated intellectuals tend to be far more divided, IMO. everyone has thier own complex beliefs and views on government and society...and through education, tend to gain a very real and rather depressing understanding of our beaurocracy and gov't....and tend to be left apathetic.
it's alot harder to round up such troops, and to get them to agree on common ideals and goals.best thing you've ever said on this board

racer5.0stang
05-12-2005, 09:31 AM
face it....bush and his minions are simply greater in numbers.
his administration used an appeal to religious zealotry and bigotry and fear to muster up a majority vote.

I'm not so sure about the use of fear, but he did state what his religious beliefs are (which coincidently is the largest in the country). Whether or not he is truly a Christian is between him and God.

the democrats do not.

Much like their Presidential Candidate, they couldn't figure out which side to be on.

i think that really stems from an inherrant problem from having higher education and intellectuals in the democratic party.

Don't you think Rep. have the same problem?

the ignorant, the jingoistic, the religious, the uneducated....they are easily led and controlled....thier instincts to "rally 'round the flag" are far easier to pull on with their more primative cognative patterns.
it's kinda like that old hollywood stereotype where the explorers come upon a primative tribe...and use fire from a lighter to wow them...and all the tribesman bow to thier new masters....
you just appeal to thier primative minds....that's the republican party.

Spoken like a true Democrat. This thinking is why you lost the Presidency 8 years in a row. By your previous statements, Dem. are just too smart to make a coherent descision and stick with it whether it be good or bad.

Maybe you (in the general sense of the word) should turn inward and figure out why your candidate(s) lost instead of pointing the finger at election rigs and so forth.

Qdrop
05-12-2005, 09:38 AM
I'm not so sure about the use of fear, but he did state what his religious beliefs are (which coincidently is the largest in the country).

dude between the fear mongering from 9/11 and terrorism....to the GOP making thier base think that "the gays are about to take over!".....

it was all fear.

if a democrat was elected, then "terrorism would run rampent and gays would be getting married legally and making our kids gay".

that's why he won the election...it was all part of Karl Rove's plan.



Don't you think Rep. have the same problem?

no. i don't.


Spoken like a true Democrat. This thinking is why you lost the Presidency 8 years in a row. actually we only lost twice...in 2 presidential elections. presidential elections are every 4 years...not every year.

By your previous statements, Dem. are just too smart to make a coherent descision and stick with it whether it be good or bad. no, they are just to intellectually segragated and apathetic.

Maybe you (in the general sense of the word) should turn inward and figure out why your candidate(s) lost instead of pointing the finger at election rigs and so forth. did you read my post? i said there was no election rigging in this past election.

you just scan people's threads....start making your replies in your head before you even finish reading them, then hurry them to post....
slow down.

racer5.0stang
05-12-2005, 09:53 AM
actually we only lost twice...in 2 presidential elections. presidential elections are every 4 years...not every year.

You know what I meant. :rolleyes:

no, they are just to intellectually segragated and apathetic.

Sounds like they've been brainwashed.

did you read my post? i said there was no election rigging in this past election.

Yes I did read you post in it's entirety but that does not mean that other people believe the same as you and I.

dude between the fear mongering from 9/11 and terrorism....to the GOP making thier base think that "the gays are about to take over!".....

it was all fear.

I think GWB just got in Kerry's head. Kerry was your apathetic intellectual and couldn't relate to the people. Yeah he could debate Bush into the ground but that was a/b it. Bush would at least stand by what he said whether it was right or wrong. Kerry had no problem lying to the public straight to their face.

Qdrop
05-12-2005, 09:59 AM
Sounds like they've been brainwashed.
quite the opposite.



I think GWB just got in Kerry's head. Kerry was your apathetic intellectual and couldn't relate to the people. Yeah he could debate Bush into the ground but that was a/b it. Bush would at least stand by what he said whether it was right or wrong. Kerry had no problem lying to the public straight to their face. agreed, pretty much.

Funkaloyd
05-12-2005, 05:51 PM
I don't know why you're replying to him, he seems to be trying to proove your point ;)

Rosie Cotton
05-12-2005, 08:23 PM
Bush had 286 electorial voted Kerry had 252. Look at the county map.The red is all over this great nation. Not just remote, small, rural towns. Sorry get your facts in order.
Actually, why don't you look at a map? Most of the states that went to Bush aren't exactly booming metropilises.

sjp
05-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Bush da man.

ericg
05-12-2005, 10:31 PM
Hey guys, do any of you have any good websites describing the world's reaction to Bush being re-elected? Post 'em up if you can.

Kthx.

This probably isn't the type of discription you want, but...
www.ishkur.com/editorials/kerrywins01.jpg

I concur with your view of the elections. It's absolutely infuriating all around.

boys_beastie
05-13-2005, 05:49 AM
Look at the BBC UK Election Result Map (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/default.stm). Most of it is blue (Tory) yet Labour got 356 seats compared with the Tories' 197.

If the UK used the same logic as the US, the Tories would have walked it!lucky its not then because tories blow. i live in the uk and beleive me. them winning wouldnt have been good. not sying i like tony blair. some of thge secret shit he's done is fucked up. i still tihnk they should chenge to the percentage votes to give the smaller partys a bigger chance of getting in. other wise it'll always be a 2party race. the tories wil make the rich richefr and the poor poorer and they claim they'll take away tuition fees, but our country can't afford to loose that money, so michael howard would have to get it back through tax, but he said he won't raise that. i think they would
have increased interest on student loans. its all corrupt. i vote green.

ps. this thread seems have a drifted somewhat from the original question. o well. PEACE!

WEllS

QueenAdrock
05-13-2005, 04:20 PM
Liberal propaganada zero facts are listed below!

First off, it's my opinion. If I wanted to back it up with facts, I would have posted this (http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1970/) up.

A statistical analysis of exit polling conducted by a former MIT mathematics professor has found the odds of Bush making an average gain of 4.15 percent among all 16 states included in the media’s 4 p.m. exit polling is 1 in 50,000, or .002 percent.

Now I fully expect you to brush it off and say that W is the most awesome person in the world and you'd lick his nutsack if you could, just like the good little brainwashed extremist you are. Whatever lets you sleep at night.

EN[i]GMA
05-13-2005, 05:26 PM
yes, the facts are that the liberals are in a slight, yet legitamate minority....period.

the election was not rigged...at least in no substantial way that has credible backing to it.

face it....bush and his minions are simply greater in numbers.
his administration used an appeal to religious zealotry and bigotry and fear to muster up a majority vote.

the problem is, the republicans KNOW who they are. they KNOW who thier base is.

the democrats do not.


i think that really stems from an inherrant problem from having higher education and intellectuals in the democratic party.

the ignorant, the jingoistic, the religious, the uneducated....they are easily led and controlled....thier instincts to "rally 'round the flag" are far easier to pull on with their more primative cognative patterns.
it's kinda like that old hollywood stereotype where the explorers come upon a primative tribe...and use fire from a lighter to wow them...and all the tribesman bow to thier new masters....
you just appeal to thier primative minds....that's the republican party.


the educated intellectuals tend to be far more divided, IMO. everyone has thier own complex beliefs and views on government and society...and through education, tend to gain a very real and rather depressing understanding of our beaurocracy and gov't....and tend to be left apathetic.
it's alot harder to round up such troops, and to get them to agree on common ideals and goals.

Wow, that certainly wasn't the most ignorant, stereotypical, bigoted and ignorant thing I've ever seen you post.

Oh wait, it was.

Re-read that post. Don't you see how pitiful it is? It's akin to getting your ass handed to you in a game and retorting with "I didn't like that game anyway!". It may be true, but it's also irrelevent.

Face it, liberalism has no moral, intellectual or social highground, if anything, it's used more as a caustic, derisive term by chauvinists than as any sort of badge of honor.

What kind of person goes around saying "I just lost an election, but it was only because I'm smarter, more level headed, more reasonable, and more intellectual than the other guy!"?

An asshole, that's who.

Tell me, what was so God damn intellectual about Kerry?

I've found Bush supporters to be more congenial, level-headed, cool (In the sense of not going off on some fucking tirade EVERY GOD DAMN TIME POLITICS IS BROUGHT UP), sociable and agreeable.

Liberals, at least the image that comes to my mind, is almost rabid hysteria about Bush and his ilk.

Now I generally like to stay out of these left vs. right pissing contests, they achieve nothing and I'm neither 'left' nor 'right' so it's pointless for me to argue, but that was honestly an ignorant statement from someone who doesn't make many ignorant statements.

Think the problem through, it isn't that Republicans are the 'slave masters' to these people (Who are generally far more individualistic than leftists tend to be) but that they appeal to them in MANY ways, socially (Though I deplore it), religiously (I deplore this as well), economically (I don't know why), politically (Again, I draw a blank), emotionally (Once again, I'm clueless), and for hundreds of other reasons, all of them meaningless and trivial, but what comes out of this is a whim for a particular candidate, which the Republicans got.

Democrats, irregardless of their politics, are not seen as as electable as Republicans are.

Democrats had the whitehouse and lost it, and it's their own fault, and as much as I dislike Bush and his policies, he is in command, for better or worse, and most people don't have a problem about that.

And don't post his fucking approval ratings, I don't give a fuck.

Funkaloyd
05-13-2005, 05:44 PM
GMA']I've found Bush supporters to be more congenial, level-headed, cool (In the sense of not going off on some fucking tirade EVERY GOD DAMN TIME POLITICS IS BROUGHT UP), sociable and agreeable.
Don't you live in a swing state? Those guys don't count.

QueenAdrock
05-13-2005, 08:59 PM
GMA']Wow, that certainly wasn't the most ignorant, stereotypical, bigoted and ignorant thing I've ever seen you post.

vs.

I've found Bush supporters to be more congenial, level-headed, cool (In the sense of not going off on some fucking tirade EVERY GOD DAMN TIME POLITICS IS BROUGHT UP), sociable and agreeable.

Liberals, at least the image that comes to my mind, is almost rabid hysteria about Bush and his ilk.

How ironic.


Democrats, irregardless of their politics, are not seen as as electable as Republicans are.

I really don't feel like arguing this, but for future reference, it's "regardless."

EN[i]GMA
05-13-2005, 09:05 PM
How ironic.

Yes, that would be the point.

He makes vague, blanketed, stereotypical remarks and I responded in kind, with the express purpose of DUN DUN DUN conveying irony.




I really don't feel like arguing this, but for future reference, it's "regardless."

Thanks.

yeahwho
05-14-2005, 12:06 AM
GMA']


Democrats had the whitehouse and lost it, and it's their own fault, and as much as I dislike Bush and his policies, he is in command, for better or worse, and most people don't have a problem about that.

And don't post his fucking approval ratings, I don't give a fuck.

......uh,......let me guess why, because most people don't have a problem about that. :rolleyes:

EN[i]GMA
05-14-2005, 07:48 AM
......uh,......let me guess why, because most people don't have a problem about that. :rolleyes:

No, because it's irrelevent for the most part. He's elected, and short of an impeachment, he's staying.

yeahwho
05-14-2005, 09:03 PM
GMA']No, because it's irrelevent for the most part. He's elected, and short of an impeachment, he's staying.

I know, I know....not to pick on ya' or anything, I live and work around normal people (Blue Staters I guess) and we basically wouldn't be too dissapointed if Bush were to be impeached. We figure to get that ball rolling, we would have to be a little vocal about it.

So every once in awhile I'll post something about an outright avoidence of responsibility by our ( :rolleyes: ) elected leader. So no fucking approval ratings, just this.

Peace (http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html)

D_Raay
05-15-2005, 01:52 AM
the election was not rigged...at least in no substantial way that has credible backing to it.
Not at all true...

Every instance of fraud they found out there, of which I repeatedly pointed out back in 04, was in favor of Bush. This is not possible if we are to believe the republicans when they say "Well, shit happens".

Apparently, "conspiracy stuff" is now shorthand for unspeakable truth.

Thundercracker
05-15-2005, 03:49 AM
i can tell you what my reaction was.

i was like: "WTF?!"

ericg
05-15-2005, 03:10 PM
What fucking reaction? Who's reacted again?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh and word up Thundercracker!!!