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yeahwho
05-16-2005, 09:42 PM
Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/13/AR2005051301516.html), Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/12/AR2005051201857.html), Here (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html), Here (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=7867)!

Impeachment, the new white meat.

News Over There, but Not Here

By Michael Getler

Sunday, May 15, 2005; Page B06 Washington Post Ombudsman

The key line in the leaked memo, in my view, is the assessment by British intelligence, after a visit to Washington, that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." That kind of assertion has been made by critics and commentators, but it has not been included in official post-invasion assessments here about how the country went to war under what turned out to be false premises about weapons of mass destruction and other matters. Investigating that assessment, coming from the key U.S. ally in the war, certainly seems journalistically mandatory. Indeed, while official U.S. commissions and committees have documented just how bad U.S. intelligence was, they have stopped short of assessing what happened to that intelligence after it was prepared.

The Post also failed to report that, on May 5, 90 Democrats in Congress sent a letter to President Bush about the "troubling revelations" in the London Sunday Times that the United States and Britain "had secretly agreed to attack Iraq . . . before you even sought congressional authority."

Ali
05-17-2005, 01:32 AM
What does it matter? They would have invaded anyway. They could have said, "we're going to invade, what are you going to do about it" and nobody could have done a damn thing to stop them, short of using force...

It's a nice world we live in, isn't it?

yeahwho
05-17-2005, 07:37 AM
What does it matter? They would have invaded anyway. They could have said, "we're going to invade, what are you going to do about it" and nobody could have done a damn thing to stop them, short of using force...

It's a nice world we live in, isn't it?

In the US it is an impeachable act. I think we'll be hearing a little more than just page A18 type of fodder as the week goes by.

Ali
05-17-2005, 08:45 AM
In the US it is an impeachable act. I think we'll be hearing a little more than just page A18 type of fodder as the week goes by. Does the Supreme Court have anything to do with whether or not somebody gets impeached?

Whois
05-17-2005, 10:44 AM
In the US it is an impeachable act. I think we'll be hearing a little more than just page A18 type of fodder as the week goes by.

Sadly doubtful...

ericg
05-17-2005, 05:03 PM
An impeachment is not even close to being enough. It's going to take indictments all around just for starters.
ALL AROUND...

And indeed and of course most importantly, the PEOPLE have to show some type of clear constitution and noble agenda! That's where it's at and has always been! Duh, like then "Why ya act dumb like duuuuhh dumb"

Obviously, even then the best of what best we got is going to need a full impact, overhaul, and rejuvination with all kinds of good work corroborated upon to get the world's affairs rectified correctly from top to bottom, or rather, bottom to top... and ultimately efficient in pragmatics. Logistics. Fair trade.... It's years late and billions short. Moreover, a precident in affirmation of value's integral to human civility and making sure everyone receives their true and rightful dues in no uncertain terms. Retribution. Rectification. It's a matter of resources and what's best for the world, not the nation's terminal goals like people don't stop running after..

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I've been on and on and on about everything in macro terms for years... right on down to the micro reasons and have only seen it get worse and worse with all the factions and fronts... Give me and the world accountability NOW. Right now! Just one account.. to show the reasons.. I can open it up larger than life and turn it in and out from any point of view. Right over the heads of those confounded/ dumbfounded in denial straight to the top! All in vain? No dumbass, for the right relative reason so many lack the wherewithal for and the common facts you jumble up and fumble with. Fuckin' feigns. The mentality is worth nothing at the bottom if it's wrong from the top just as it's worth nothing good at the top if wrong at the bottom. Who am I talking to. Some fucking... Ah shit. Where's your head at? What's in your wallet? Fuck. What is this. Don't fucking answer me. I haven't seen credible for fucking ages. That's why I'm here. Why are you here??????????? Rather, how do you think you're here? Go ahead and think to contest me since everythings in dissolution anyway you suckerheaded bitchass natzi biters.

FUCK YOU for not even getting half of it right. You're so incomplete.. INFUCKINGCREDIBLE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH

ericg
05-17-2005, 05:53 PM
Just go to Store Wars and get your pathetic fucking kicks.

ericg
05-17-2005, 06:26 PM
Systematic incompetence @ large. It's in YOUR face. Can't you tell?






I've contended with it all the way down to the lowest level of this EVERY DAMN DAY's dysfunction. Flawed reason galore.

Who's prepared to invest in the right stocks!?! Where the hell are you?

yeahwho
05-18-2005, 01:26 PM
I'm completely blown away. Our media outlets have become shills for this administration. To not even mention that 90 Congressional Democrats signed a letter demanding an explanation for;

Why have you "secretly agreed to attack Iraq in the summer of 2002, well before the invasion and before you even sought Congressional authority" would make a few waves, you'd think?

We are in for some very dark times ahead.

Here (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7318016?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7) is somebody who is normal trying to figure this out too. What a bunch of spineless fucks our First Amendment media have become. This story is so big and has so many international implications....yet nothing.

Here (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18034).

D_Raay
05-18-2005, 01:42 PM
Have you been writing letters yeahwho? I certainly have and I urge you all to do the same. Yes, we all knew this all along, but now we have concrete evidence to throw in the face of the shoulder shruggers.

freetibet
05-18-2005, 03:42 PM
Oh, brother..

Face it - Hussein is gone and You can't change that. I know You wish You could..

N. Korea and Belarus (e.g.) also deserve an invasion. Removing tyrrants is a fair enough reason.

yeahwho
05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Oh, brother..

Face it - Hussein is gone and You can't change that. I know You wish You could..

N. Korea and Belarus (e.g.) also deserve an invasion. Removing tyrrants is a fair enough reason.
Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all filled up here.

ericg
05-18-2005, 06:03 PM
Yeah, yeahwho, write a letter :rolleyes: That won't be an absolute waste of time. That'll do it to it. The responsibility has always been with the American people. Who? Yeah right. I could tell you exactly who in fact. Look, who's that in position..? They have dropped the ball. They've put it in a museum and sold it all out. Everything worth value that matters really. Front on suckerheads. That's obviously and precisely why the situation is the way it is. The real stage is abandoned for politics behind closed doors. Poor fools. Just don't ever get it done outright in the world. Time wasted as they get paid to play all sides out only to rob the truth of the matter in the mean time. What's worth more to you? Rather, what are you worth? Are you forever spent spending your money, or do your interests lie in appreciating due time and setting the record straight once and for all. Too many suckers with money now. Those with the "wherewithal" to get it right should have already picked up the clues... gotten the facts straight and grounded the original Constitution by any means necessary. Treason all around really, don't front and hand people clever cop out shit part with this dissolution, like you're trying. The results... I'll say no more. I can only say so much before... I realize I'm only talking to the same minds that like to pose but obviously haven't got it... like all or nothing, and have only been part with this dissolution down to whatever controlled opposition mindset.. Controlled oppositions suck off of the dumbfounded and utterly arrogant. Fools gold. It's incredible. Keep frontin'. The "politically smart" are in this category. They can't stop at this point until someone stops them. That's up to you. Yeah, oh shit. YO, who needs this made clearer right right now now?
Check out the "Collaborations" thread.

I'm so fed up of being fed up. "..Think twice...just another day for you and me in paradise..." Go to your work and be like nothing matters but your day to day shit all ultimatley fed into the fiegns intents and purposes. Wake your mind up. Unite. Get it right. It's worth it. We've killed too many good families burning oil fires indoors... we got electricity people. Fucking use it. Oh it's all been said before right?????? Keep going along to get along.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too -New Radicals

"...You made alliance with the dark side..." -311

D_Raay
05-19-2005, 01:32 AM
Yeah, yeahwho, write a letter :rolleyes: That won't be an absolute waste of time. That'll do it to it. The responsibility has always been with the American people. Who? Yeah right. I could tell you exactly who in fact. Look, who's that in position..? They have dropped the ball. They've put it in a museum and sold it all out. Everything worth value that matters really. Front on suckerheads. That's obviously and precisely why the situation is the way it is. The real stage is abandoned for politics behind closed doors. Poor fools. Just don't ever get it done outright in the world. Time wasted as they get paid to play all sides out only to rob the truth of the matter in the mean time. What's worth more to you? Rather, what are you worth? Are you forever spent spending your money, or do your interests lie in appreciating due time and setting the record straight once and for all. Too many suckers with money now. Those with the "wherewithal" to get it right should have already picked up the clues... gotten the facts straight and grounded the original Constitution by any means necessary. Treason all around really, don't front and hand people clever cop out shit part with this dissolution, like you're trying. The results... I'll say no more. I can only say so much before... I realize I'm only talking to the same minds that like to pose but obviously haven't got it... like all or nothing, and have only been part with this dissolution down to whatever controlled opposition mindset.. Controlled oppositions suck off of the dumbfounded and utterly arrogant. Fools gold. It's incredible. Keep frontin'. The "politically smart" are in this category. They can't stop at this point until someone stops them. That's up to you. Yeah, oh shit. YO, who needs this made clearer right right now now?
Check out the "Collaborations" thread.

I'm so fed up of being fed up. "..Think twice...just another day for you and me in paradise..." Go to your work and be like nothing matters but your day to day shit all ultimatley fed into the fiegns intents and purposes. Wake your mind up. Unite. Get it right. It's worth it. We've killed too many good families burning oil fires indoors... we got electricity people. Fucking use it. Oh it's all been said before right?????? Keep going along to get along.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too -New Radicals

"...You made alliance with the dark side..." -311

I'm so fed up of being fed up. (y)

yeahwho
05-19-2005, 03:23 AM
What does it matter? They would have invaded anyway. They could have said, "we're going to invade, what are you going to do about it" and nobody could have done a damn thing to stop them, short of using force...

It's a nice world we live in, isn't it?

What does it matter? Excellent question, answered here. (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/whycare.html)

Ali
05-19-2005, 04:41 AM
What does it matter? Excellent question, answered here. (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/whycare.html)Scott McClellan has been doing a lot of denying recently, hasn't he?

So, they lied. We all knew that. Now there's proof. What are we going to do about it? What can we do about it? Get rid of them and install another bunch of scheming evil cnuts? The induhviduals may be gone, but the culture remains. Whoever moves in will become as bad as those they replace, or will have to be as bad in order to get in.

D_Raay
05-19-2005, 10:59 AM
Scott McClellan has been doing a lot of denying recently, hasn't he?

So, they lied. We all knew that. Now there's proof. What are we going to do about it? What can we do about it? Get rid of them and install another bunch of scheming evil cnuts? The induhviduals may be gone, but the culture remains. Whoever moves in will become as bad as those they replace, or will have to be as bad in order to get in.
Good point, however, these guys have redefined "bad". I think anyone would seem pleasing in comparison.

Schmeltz
05-19-2005, 11:48 AM
The induhviduals may be gone, but the culture remains. Whoever moves in will become as bad as those they replace, or will have to be as bad in order to get in.


Exactly. America has charted the course of the superpower and it doesn't really matter who's at the helm. It won't be enough to shuffle the deck; if you want real change you have to overhaul the system from the ground up and chart an altogether new course for your society. Otherwise you'll be trapped in the same stultifying, self-repeating cycle until your society collapses.

The trick of it is that no society has ever been in a better position to renew and reinvent itself. We have a better understanding than ever of how our societies work and American civilization is founded on traditions that provide multiple spiritual, political, economic, and cultural avenues for reform. What's really needed is a spark, some kind of galvanizing mechanism that reawakens the spirit of Americans and spurs them to rediscover the essential vigour and vitality that underlies their culture, lurking beneath a blanket of instant news and reality television.

yeahwho
05-19-2005, 01:25 PM
What's really needed is a spark, some kind of galvanizing mechanism that reawakens the spirit of Americans and spurs them to rediscover the essential vigour and vitality that underlies their culture, lurking beneath a blanket of instant news and reality television.

Journalistic investigation with community input is needed. How frightening is it that sperm on a dress just 7 short years ago led to an impeachment (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/clinton.htm) process and now today with blood on his hands....will you get the idea. What was front page news then is still front page news now.

If we could find sperm on Jeff Gannons collar we'd be in business.

Our media is failing us and pandering to a war time president. Our "liberal media."

D_Raay
05-19-2005, 03:40 PM
Our media is failing us and pandering to a war time president. Our "liberal media."

You hit the proverbial nail on the head there...

ericg
05-19-2005, 04:29 PM
Time to build.

I swear there's an echo in the line here. No matter though. Anyway, did I hear someone say Class Action!?! Aside from the somewhat coarse composure of my writings and harsh accusations..., I'm glad to see some of this. ;)

Now it's all only a matter of proper collaboration at this point really.
Here. Like, who's in position... Let's say, if you had it at your disposal, who would you contact and how would you put it all together? Right Right Here Here... Who's got the...

I won't do a whole formal dissertation here per se, but can very well after the fact... Here, I'm just going to bam it. Not that I haven't said this before... but stay with me as best...

FACTS: Round about half the country (not to mention the international community just yet) can agree on certain fundamental common grounds and basic concepts, truths... and would advocate Bush's impeachment, along with indictments that hold the iniquitous accountable. Required and necessary for swift justice to end many of those overtly responsible for this treason galore, is SIMPLY a progressive cohesion of all in affinity.

This means every citizen is afforded the right to ground the Constitution in no uncertain terms and uphold the integrity of what's written in black and white.

Ending the Bush Administrations faulty record, also requires a new record. A comprehensive and thorough account... an initiative. An agenda, which falls into place when the account is correct. It's simple like a science really. This bears all the responsiblity, nobility, and integrity in the world. A blue print designed that basically accounts for all of our resources available, appropriating the provisions in order to administer them with utmost efficiency... with an emphasis on sustainable benign resources and the most reasonable applications. Sometimes it just doesn't get any more essential and basic.

Notwithstanding good character... this would account for most human solutions that exist at this time in more than one form. Mandates and an agenda focused on and for absolute humane priorities.

Like back to basics... The Constitution's default page. First things first. Working within the parameters of the law, a legal team would need to be consolidated, and a working constitution of all people in affinity... like I said, a Class Action in no uncertain terms. When I say all in affinity, it's overwhelming to think of the spirit and voice that could be heard if teh common denomination but had a bonafide catalyst to generate the truth efficiently. The chance is what this nation needs.

So. There's a whole gamut of resources and progression out there just waiting for the right person(s) to pull the sword out... TOGETHER, it would be feasible. And since everything is on the line... Yeah so one organization (core of the class action) containing legal service which would take care of impeachment, indictments, and Federal Reserve reform etc..., Financial (to fund resources necessary), Media (truth be told by the dawns early light with which half of America couldn't be denied), and the magnet medium/ magnification... a fundamental org comprised of all the people in every aptitude currently in affinity with integral values. As if to break out the Bill of Rights and create a place for every citizen to sign on to this mandate understanding what it means... petitions... whatever it legally takes, you know, and Logistics/ Economics would include competent forerunners to clear and check the facts and refurbish mandates true to world progression (resources we have and the overall investing in the right stocks.. etc...) Military deployments for restoration and reconstruction... it's all there, it needs consolidation, the right direction and facilitation, and as far as government goes, well, I'm sure by that time things will be stepped up accordingly and naturally under a more proper, noble, and trusted control. I can't figure the whole world out here but... know what I know and hope that people are competent enough to be as serious as is our responsibility to owning up to it all. There's alot to clear up, break down and rejuvinate, so.... Where you at? Where do or will you come from in this, and where could you come from better?

I know this board is like below 10 strong.., but focusing and having faith on and in the whole, I think it's safe to say this is where it's at RIGHT RIGHT NOW NOW... for all intents and purposes. Know what I mean. Um... the deed to intellectual property is worth more than all the gold in the world.. just 'cause. I've said this before in so many posts, you know, but the best of common sense is a prerogative of mine that needs stocking. What more can I say... With this type of action, the papers couldn't lie, or react on false pretense or take out of context..
Anyway, if you don't heed or mind this now for whatever your reason... have limited mental wherewithal, still like to talk, and s-l-o-w-l-y arrive years after the fact to no avail.. At least remember what I've said a year from now when you're in another situation. Like you haven't seen nothin' here yet. Peace.



You are here.

ericg
05-19-2005, 04:42 PM
Fuck I really should clean that up, but give me a fucking break. Yeah, I can always say and do it better! It's the most composed mess ever conceived here. It's about initiative................... motivation................. responsiblilty................. etc

And it's about as simple as macro can get at this point...

ericg
05-19-2005, 04:49 PM
Don't sidestep. Give it the right time and leeway. Let's pray I'm not taken out by the CIA, and that you have enough aptitude, respect, and integrity to submit to the right dues.

If you need it formal to appease your doubt, then you're not really there yet or ready.

Ali
05-20-2005, 01:29 AM
If we could find sperm on Jeff Gannons collar we'd be in business. Oh man! You owe me a new keyboard!!! This one's got milk all over it!!!!