rappers that arent from the US

[The Notorious LOL]

aside from a VERY SELECT FEW , 99% of them are LOL and shouldnt bother.

[Parkey]

B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S

[PaddyBoy]

aside from a VERY SELECT FEW , 99% of them are LOL and shouldnt bother.

I'm sure the RZA would disagree.

[faz]

Yeah cause ever single US rapper is good

[DipDipDive]

I enjoy the Dizzee Rascal.

[The Notorious LOL]

I'm sure the RZA would disagree.



are you referring to that garbage ass album he produced with a bunch of foreign rappers? Whats your point anyway?

[A. Remin' D.]

I enjoy the Dizzee Rascal.

(y)

[mickill]

Had Maestro (Fresh-Wes) been born American, he'd have been right up there with like Chubb Rock, in the late 80's and early 90's.

[xrocketman]

have you heard rappers from countries like Italy and France and shit? i was listening to Polish rap when i went their for vacation, and i have never heard anything more awkward sounding.

is MC Solaar from France any good by the way?

[muddfoot]

How About K-Os, Roots Manuva and let not forget about our good friend Slick Rick

[ET]

are you referring to that garbage ass album he produced with a bunch of foreign rappers? Whats your point anyway?

...that 90% of that album was bad?

[The Notorious LOL]

Roots Manuva, and some of Dizzee Rascals tracks would be in the 1%.


How is Slick Rick even considered anything but an east coast rapper? He lived in the UK til he was like 10, he started rapping in the Bronx.

[zorra_chiflada]

australian hip hop is kinda average. good beats and all, but the rapping sounds silly in a thick australian accent.

[Hello_nasty]

K-os is awesome. He isn't from the US.

[Knuckles]

aside from a VERY SELECT FEW , 99% of them are LOL and shouldnt bother.
I must agree.

[HEIRESS]

dont even DONT EVEN

[Tzar]

australian hip hop is kinda average. good beats and all, but the rapping sounds silly in a thick australian accent.

hilltop hoods = (y)
they make some awesoma powa beats.

[zorra_chiflada]

hilltop hoods = (y)
they make some awesoma powa beats.

what do you think of scribe? (even though he's NZ)
i reckon he's alright, but when i saw him at the beasties side show, he didn't have many songs.

[The Notorious LOL]

dont even DONT EVEN

and CANADIAN RAPPERS are some of the WORST EVER

[EN[i]GMA]

and CANADIAN RAPPERS are some of the WORST EVER

Even jel?

He can play an SP-1200 like a typewriter and make a production quality beat in 5 minutes.

Plus he can rap.

Buck 65 can beat juggle and rap at the same time.

MC Abdominal has incredible breath control.


I like Canadian rappers.

[Monsieur Decuts]

There's no difference between Canadian and US MC's

They're from the same bag of tricks

[zippo]

the thing is, hip hop/rap comes with so many cultural strings attached that if youre not northamerican, you cant help to seem that youre "copying" their act....since hiphop is more than just a music genre and has widely known cultural characteristics, i think its ok when people from other countries imitate their music style but ridiculous when they also take in their way of life: when they dress like them, they graffiti, they dj and mc like them, which is so different from their own culture.
but since international rap artists usually never just imitate the music style, i believe most non-north-american rap artists are ridiculous.

[HEIRESS]

we gots island rap here mon

[cj hood]

slick rick

[RobMoney]

You can't really call them rappers, but they are definately a hip-hop act and I think they are kinda noice,

The Streets (y)

[Tzar]

what do you think of scribe? (even though he's NZ)
i reckon he's alright, but when i saw him at the beasties side show, he didn't have many songs.

oh i got no beef with him.
i can bear his stuff but i wouldn't go out of my way to listen to him.

[Parkey]

and CANADIAN RAPPERS are some of the WORST EVER
What about all the Peanuts and Corn mob? Or Sole? Gonzales? etc. etc.

[Auton]

aside from a VERY SELECT FEW , 99% of them are LOL and shouldnt bother.

it's true. and the streets suck.

[Freebasser]

GLC

[beastieangel01]

Roots Manuva

(y) (y) (y)

and of course, I dig me some Dizzee Rascal.

[DroppinScience]

Perhaps this is true, but it's not as if there's a very high numbers of rappers from the US of A (at this current moment, not talking about in the '80s) that are any good either.

[gregorymarshall]

The streets are amazing - anyone who thinks they suck doenst know how to fuckin listen

[muddfoot]

My favorite british rapper is Sir Mix-A-Lot :D

[Auton]

Perhaps this is true, but it's not as if there's a very high numbers of rappers from the US of A (at this current moment, not talking about in the '80s) that are any good either.

well it's not like everything from the 80's is untouchable. there was plenty of lousy stuff then too.

[Kid Presentable]

Scribe, if he can make a decent follow-up, will have a good shot in the States.

Local M.C's can say it all they want, but the 'ocker' is only good for home grown crowds. Try rocking a club in Northern America with that Australian accent and they'll pass you off as a gimmick; you'd be the Aussie in Coyote Ugly.

It just sounds ridiculous, and as far as subject matter, we get that the weather here is good, the girls are hot, and the beer and hydroponics are plentiful. We all live here you know.

I like some of the beats these crews come up with, but mostly the rhymes are horrible. I won't cop the Downsyde album with the vocals on it, I just refuse to. And there's that one crew that built a song around samples from the movie 'Antz' and the whole metaphor is straight up wack, there's no excuse.

Scribe cops a lot of shit for his faux American affectations, but him and his crew are the only local hip-hop that doesn't make me wince when I hear them. He openly has a dream about making it big in N.Y, and more power to him, at least he won't have to stop his set and explain to the crowd what Marmite is...

Of course, mention Roots Manuva and I'll do a u-turn, perhaps local M.C's just need a new accent....

[The Notorious LOL]

well it's not like everything from the 80's is untouchable. there was plenty of lousy stuff then too.


exactly. Even though its "classic" or whatever, a lot of the early early rap was fucking garbage. Its like jocking "Love Me Do" just because the Beatles wrote it even though its crap.

[Fade2White]

dizzee rascal is fucking awesome (even though i understand less then 10% of what hes saying)...the streets are dec, somes pretty good some makes me want to tear my eyes out like that song that goes your fit and dont you know it i cant stand that song its like nails on a chalk board

[Lex Diamonds]

GLC
youknowsit

[Gareth]

is it difficult to comprehend that the streets is one person?

[King of Rock II]

I agree. There's some mainstream dutch rappers that I like but that's mostly because they live two blocks away and it's a nice change to hear mc's talk about things that are a little more close to home than the US shit. But I can't really compare them to rappers from across the ocean.

The only rapper I really like outside of the US is Dizzee Rascal. And sometimes a Saïan Supa Crew track.

[EN[i]GMA]

is it difficult to comprehend that the streets is one person?

I mean, 'The Street' wouldn't make any damn sense.

[King of Rock II]

I think he means it should be "the streets is" instead of "the streets are"

Even though that sounds a bit weird.

[paulb]

Why is everyone forgetting about the best rapper ever!? SNOW!!!!

[venusvenus123]

most rap is Crap. and america has most crappers. they're all LOL with their stupid tits and ass bling bling duh duh videos.
what a load of wankers.

dizzee rascal knocks the spots off practically any american rapper.... he's not a rapper anyway.

[The Notorious LOL]

.......nah

[Tzar]

angel of death!!




nah, chingy is hell good..... ROFL

[venusvenus123]

.......nah
you ought to see him live... i'll ask him to come to minnesota when he tours america. :p

[hellojello]

Scribe, if he can make a decent follow-up, will have a good shot in the States.

Local M.C's can say it all they want, but the 'ocker' is only good for home grown crowds. Try rocking a club in Northern America with that Australian accent and they'll pass you off as a gimmick; you'd be the Aussie in Coyote Ugly.

It just sounds ridiculous, and as far as subject matter, we get that the weather here is good, the girls are hot, and the beer and hydroponics are plentiful. We all live here you know.

I like some of the beats these crews come up with, but mostly the rhymes are horrible. I won't cop the Downsyde album with the vocals on it, I just refuse to. And there's that one crew that built a song around samples from the movie 'Antz' and the whole metaphor is straight up wack, there's no excuse.

Scribe cops a lot of shit for his faux American affectations, but him and his crew are the only local hip-hop that doesn't make me wince when I hear them. He openly has a dream about making it big in N.Y, and more power to him, at least he won't have to stop his set and explain to the crowd what Marmite is...

Of course, mention Roots Manuva and I'll do a u-turn, perhaps local M.C's just need a new accent....
you wince when you hear an aussie? that's un-australian. It sounds like you're implying you'd like our rappers better if they sounded american. seriously embrace you're inner-australian. Don't like them in spite of being aussie like them BECAUSE they are aussie. I know i do.


I speak from the heart, but only when I drink,
And I only ever sleep when I'm too tired to think,
Restlessness, the reaction that you will find,
From stress I guess and having a compassionate mind,
I worry bout the machine of progress, ain't no stopping it,
The forest we destroy and the world we build on top of it,
Mercenaries get paid salaries to slaughter,
Girls obsessed with body image find calories in water,
Nurses comfort seven-year-old casualties of mortar,
A peasant's daughter caught up in a war for a border,
And at home we treat our refugees like criminals,
Detention centres just a catch phrase for a minimal
Security prison, we drive gold trimmed cars,
Down the road an Afghani kid grows up behind bars,
And we wonder why they hate the west,
When we treat them like they're second-class citizens at best,
We're all pawns in a game, the USAs miniatures,
Aussie foreign policy with George Bush's signature,
Peeps die for a watch and blue chip stock,
Did they do Big Pop or was it two bit cops,
I wanna sue kid rock for making rednecks think they're hip hop,
Wanna swallow people's pain and spit it from the hilltop,
Wanna affect change in the subjects that we talk on,
Connect strangers, work together and walk on.

Polluting airways, mankind strays with no reforming,
So slap on that sunscreen and enjoy the global warming,
Cos ignoring world issues is what we all do best,
Just like Aussie politicians shoe shining for the U.S.
To save losing face, no thoughts to the fumes that trace,
Our sky lines and clogs our seas we swimming in consumer waste,
The fumes of hate rise globally but will it cease?
The day we try and find a little peace within the Middle East,
We shadow their borders yelling deplete their arms,
Its just war for black gold so they can grease their palms,
We all need a scapegoat, a villain to cop blame,
We're just wolves in sheep's clothing killing in gods name,
And that's world wide, like global over population,
We mine the world dry of natural resources to feed our nations,
Appetite for waste, I see it everywhere,
I feel like throwing a flag of protest in Tienanmen Square,
We need to care for mother earth and all of her natural defences,
But talk is cheap, and taking action is expensive,
We wear our hearts on our sleeves, our flags on our borders,
And that's why nuclear testings done in pacific foreign waters,
We follow reporters with the worth of a scholar,
And gather personal opinions from a rag worth a dollar,
Man this is not a subject; I feel lightly I can talk on,
The attitude is one man of many, so walk on.

[King of Rock II]

I wanna sue kid rock for making rednecks think they're hip hop

Because, Australia is hiphop.

[hellojello]

well, obviously.

[Kid Presentable]

well, obviously.

There is a time and a place in my case, I can hear it on the radio and it's all good. But I wouldn't spin Aussie hip-hop by choice. Sorry, man.

I see some of these Kiwi M.C's completely ape U.S culture to a silly level, so I hear what your saying about embracing the Australianisms. Maybe there's a fine line?

And to whoever joked about Australia not being hip-hop; the shit's a worldwide force. While you grew up surrounded by it, we all had to go looking for it...

[King of Rock II]

And to whoever joked about Australia not being hip-hop; the shit's a worldwide force. While you grew up surrounded by it, we all had to go looking for it...

if hiphop is worldwide and all, it's funny an australian mc says rednecks can't be part of it.

[Kid Presentable]

if hiphop is worldwide and all, it's funny an australian mc says rednecks can't be part of it.

ICP?

[Lex Diamonds]

is it difficult to comprehend that the streets is one person?
The Streets are not one person. Sure only Mike emcees but there are 2 or 3 other members.

[Kid Presentable]

The Streets are not one person. Sure only Mike emcees but there are 2 or 3 other members.

I thought Skinner did it all in his bedroom under the name "The Streets" and anybody else just tours/hangs on?

[King of Rock II]

ICP?

what's your point?

[Lex Diamonds]

I thought Skinner did it all in his bedroom under the name "The Streets" and anybody else just tours/hangs on?
There are at least 2 other members (a man and a woman) and as far as I know there always have been...

[Kid Presentable]

what's your point?

I'd like to know yours too.

The way Kid Rock et al make hip-hop look stupid is obviously something Hilltop take exception too ( i think it's Hilltop Hoods :confused: ), and perhaps the legions of narrow minded, negative followers who contribute nothing more to the culture than beer drinkin and aggression.

I'm probably missing your point, but I get the feeling the joke to you is that an Australian redneck is saying no to rednecks. Or perhaps that because this guy isn't American, he has no authority on the subject compared to, say, a member of a Beastie Boys Messageboard?

I'd say I'm wrong though...

[Kid Presentable]

There are at least 2 other members (a man and a woman) and as far as I know there always have been...

To what extent are they involved in the music? How come they're never interviewed? Are they like Dizzy Reed?

[King of Rock II]

my point is hiphop originated in america. kid rock and other rednecks live in america. if you assume hiphop is worldwide and australians can be mc's too that's cool but it's weird when an australian guy says what can be hiphop and what can't.

i'm from holland by the way.

[Kid Presentable]

my point is hiphop originated in america. kid rock and other rednecks live in america. if you assume hiphop is worldwide and australians can be mc's too that's cool but it's weird when an australian guy says what can be hiphop and what can't.

i'm from holland by the way.

O.K cool, I figured I had it wrong.

He's not saying what hip-hop can't be , but more who it can't be.
We have plenty of rednecks here, and many of them took their lead from guys like Kid Rock, and found an easy way to distort the values of the movement.

Damn, jellotreat should let me know which track that is, I've heard that rhyme somewhere.

I really liked Holland.

[Lex Diamonds]

To what extent are they involved in the music? How come they're never interviewed? Are they like Dizzy Reed?
I'm not sure but I read an interview with Mike in FHM or something and he was chattin about how they have a female drummer who does a lot of the beats and a male DJ/guitarist/keyboard guy.

[bobi]

aside from a VERY SELECT FEW , 99% of them are LOL and shouldnt bother.
OK I see you listened to many foreighn rappers and you even understand what they were singing about. But can you tell us how many % of the US rappers are "LOL and shouldnt bother"?

[HEIRESS]

josh martinezzzzzz est canadienne (http://rapidshare.de/files/2175333/Josh_Martinez_la_rambla__1_.mp3.html)

[Freebasser]

you wince when you hear an aussie? that's un-australian. It sounds like you're implying you'd like our rappers better if they sounded american. seriously embrace you're inner-australian.

Holy shit, you're a fucking hypocrite. Let's go back a month or so, shall we?

I don't mind American TV aimed at an adult target audience, but it's a different matter when British kids are being educated to talk using American words and pronunciations.


It's called americanization get used to it, it's not just in the UK.

hellojello = fullofshit (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

Let's go back a month or so, shall we?
Live in the now, man. :)

Peace, dudes. :cool: (y)

[The Notorious LOL]

But can you tell us how many % of the US rappers are "LOL and shouldnt bother"?


95% of the "underground", 90% of white emcees, 80% of most of the shit on the radio, 100% of Beastie Boys albums released in 2004.

[King of Rock II]

I remember you were pretty enthusiastic when to the 5 burroughs dropped.

[hellojello]

my point is hiphop originated in america. kid rock and other rednecks live in america. if you assume hiphop is worldwide and australians can be mc's too that's cool but it's weird when an australian guy says what can be hiphop and what can't.

i'm from holland by the way.
i think you're taking the statment way to seriously. Look at it this way, if you say something's dumb, or that people are morons, does that automatically make you a genius? Obviously, it doesn't.







freebasser what you said doesn't even make sense. Me saying we should celebrate something Australian and also saying Americanization is world wide isn't hypocritical. I realise Americanization is in Australia and that's WHY I think we should embrace things that are come from Australia's culture so that we may maintain what little bit of individuality and uniqness that we have left.
Your obsession with me is getting unhealthy, in fact borderline psychotic. seek help.

kidp it's ...walk on

[Gareth]

I thought Skinner did it all in his bedroom under the name "The Streets" and anybody else just tours/hangs on?

thats what i always thought.

dizzee spent some time in the studio with some southern rappers a while ago, heres an mp3 with him and grit boys (http://www.gritboys.com/)

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03DXH1GR85U243NG3Z74ZI8ABM

[venusvenus123]

:) gareth :)

[venusvenus123]

yay (http://www.juliandodd.com/Large_Dizzee-Rascal.jpg)