We live in a dictatorship after all

[catatonic]

20 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA originally posted by KeepOurFreedoms at perspectives.com

80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold
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There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
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The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
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The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886
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Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html
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Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26 http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php
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Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html
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ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
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Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html
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Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm
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Diebold is based in Ohio.
http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm
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Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml
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Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf
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Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf
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None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html
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California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it. (See the movie here.)
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190
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30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
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All - not some - but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm
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The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html
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Serious voting anomalies in Florida - again always favoring Bush - have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html
http://uscountvotes.org/

[QueenAdrock]

Like I've been saying for the past year: The only way Bush would win the election was if there was fraud involved. Losing 3 debates, along with having the lowest approval rating for a "war president", does NOT add up to legitamate re-election.

[ericg]

Always good to see the truth. Still no fun being in catatonia.

[D_Raay]

emmmm... I had this thread name first... :)

[icy manipulator]

that's some of the dodgiest shit i've ever seen.

and hear i was thinknig that the US might just be made up only of right wing dumbfuck gunloving redneck conservatists :rolleyes:

[Ali]

emmmm... I had this thread name first... :)This thread is better :p

[synch]

And Jesus didn't die for your sins.

How could Jesus have known that you'd be an annoying ass on a message board over 2000 years after he was born?

[QueenAdrock]

You are a yahoo! There was no election fraud. Get a life!


And you're a brainwashed dipshit and the number one reason why I will never believe in Jesus. Hope you like living with that, knowing that you're pushing people away from your savior with your psycho ranting.

[ASsman]

HAhahah, he said Yahoo! hahahaHghahah!

Hunny come look our midly retarded child has made a funny!

[ericg]

gmsisko1 unfortunately and unwittingly still only demonstrates the monumental failure our education system has been and still is. It's a shame that he'll probably deny it until the day he dies. Coming to the Beatsie Boys site and striving to be a one man saboteur is.. enormously sad. I hope in good time, more sooner than later, that a new president can herd him the right way.

The world is saturated with demonstrations of this shame throughout the wrought chain of events.

And since you brought Jesus up, synch, I'll describe another one.
Jesus was put on a cross to die because of shady people (sinners) and their politics, NOT in order to absolve humanity's sins.

Yet it has been obfuscated to this day. In practical terms, wearing a cross is more a thing of evil than having any good sense. The world is none the wiser 2000 years later. It's MUCH worse for our wear ie... mass misinformation, dissolution, degeneration, destruction, devastation.. physically, and spiritually. Hell on earth is hard to miss, yet still, nobody with any mental or physical wherewithal has cared enough... at all.

Go figure. It's hard for life to prevail when death is waiting for those who don't go along with the shady politics of the land in order to get along.

People have been taught incompetence. Unfortunate is an understatement for those who haven't made any good sense. Without people like Kennedy and MLK..., there has been no one around to firmly prop the truth, and stablize those who believe in it... How many have died (and will continue to die) in one way or another, for knowing and keeping due bearing on the truth and believing in the virtue, strength, and well being it relies upon in everyday functions?

It's time to be wiser and stronger. Where are you at? Truth needs a hand in order to tell the time correctly!!!