POST HERE and tell me how you found BFGD

[RobMoney]

I want to know how you happened to find this little corner of the internet called Beastie Free-General Discussion?

....and tell me what hooked you in and made you want to stay?



For me it was the newsletter announcing that "the hiatus is back off again" with the upcoming release of TT5B.
It linked me to the site and I explored every possible menu I could.

Seriously, the first person I remember from here was Norcen. Such a weird personality, everyone was totally killing the guy. It was hilarous, people really hated him.

[icy manipulator]

i got bored just constantly talking about beasties cause all of my questions were answered . once i ran out of things to ask i did a bit of exploring and found bfgd and was surprised how many ppl post here so i've been here ever since

[enree erzweglle]

I honestly don't remember what the lure was but there was one.

I do remember when I realized that I was stuck in BF.

I tried to get out by seeing if there was a way to only see posts from BG (and not BF).

There wasn't. I caved.

[synch]

I came on here to find information about the press gig tour thing they did, I saw an announcement for the beastie boys concert when I was at a small concert hall seeing Roni Size and frantically started looking for information.

I didn't post much at first but only occasionally checked out the site. Then as another forum I post on pissed me off I started posting on here more. Now it's pretty much 50-50 between that forum and this one.

I'm glad I stuck around for various reasons (and one (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/member.php?u=26061) in particular).

[LOBSTER PRIZE!]

worked a boring job with internet access...checked for message boards of different artists I like, bam.

[monkey]

i think i found it in 1999? 2000? but i never had the boredom to keep coming back and i would forget my passwords. plus, we still had the beastielist (R.I.P).
then last year, around march, i started wanting to ignore certain people in my bedroom, and thus.... i became addicted.

[Kid Presentable]

Myself, Rosie Cotton, Lopprofessor the Traitor, and Toucanspam prayed at the foothills of Administrators Peak for divine approval, and then set off through the desert of 'Milarepa Fund', the Artic perils of 'Beastie General', and finally the wholly nightmarish realm of 'Frequent Post Archive'. After my party were felled by a ghoulish creature that lived upon the periphery of perception moaning :"Which Beastie is the hottest?", my foolhardy trek to the fabled realm of 'Other Music' seemed hopeless. It was then that I came upon the lush forest of Mother 'Beastie Free' and supped upon her teat, sliding in and out of consciousness, eating suspicious berries.

How hearty we were....

[Loppfessor]

Well back in 1999/2000 when I was first discovering this crazy new invention called "the internet" I stumbled upon the Beastie Boys web site doing some random searches. They were my all time favorite band/group so checking out their site made since. Plus I was working 12 hour night shifts alone and it helped pass the time. Anyway for some reason I went on hiatus for a few years.


Flash forward a few years to when my main homie Tone Capone and I used to pass slow days at work by posting on random message boards until we got banned. Then one day he sends me a link to this site where he had posted under an alias. It was pretty hilarious and then I think we both registered and got hooked.

[Rock]

worked a boring job with internet access...checked for message boards of different artists I like, bam.

[steve-onpoint]

i lost my way in a field of green, leafy things. and i decided to set up my camp site here. there were wolves. but like a decent human, i killed them all off. now our ecosystem is f'd. and i'm eating out of cans.

[kll]

I first came to bb.com because I wanted to know if the beasties had every played 'car thief' live... I was also interested in trading... I had never been to a message board before and bf scared me... I had no idea why there were "threads" (weird word to me at first) about what did you have for lunch, do you swallow, etc. were on a beastie boys website... it took me a good couple of months to go from bg to bf... and even longer to go into sure shots... i had to get familiar with boardmembers first before i was curious enough to find out what they looked like...

boomin' scared me... commierev9 (norcen)was terribly mean to me... heiress, sarky and tulla seemed too cool to be my friends... everyone adored bitcha... nuzz and i were fighting over mikeyauchovitz (bob)... psyzmac "employed" me... interesting stuff AND beyond addicting... I even had my first "cybersex" attempt on here when some guy asked me via AIM if I had any bananas in the house and I naievly (sp?) said yes and he said, then stick it up yourself... he became known as 'banana boy'...

i was later asked to be a mod and the rest is history...

[beastiegirrl101]

I won the secret session in Chicago (or so I thought) and was excited and wanted to post about it...I was new here and of course posted in the wrong forum and of course someone had to comment on it...I just kept coming back after that....

[cosmo105]

fb2k and ba01 (and later psy) were all people that i knew for years from a yahoo club called the underground beastie spot (still in operation) and after meeting all of them at coachella, along with tpk and (for about two seconds) minton, they convinced me to join. i did, but didn't post much or even lurk for a while...then last year around march or april i started to get sucked in, heh. jim was the first person to really talk to me (surprise surprise). i got to be buddies with Echewta and Beth. then, Steger made me a birthday thread and i was hooked :)

[Tzar]

umm.... i think it was a couple of weeks before IAWGM was "released" and i tried creating an account. then the site was only a page about IAWGM, then....i can't remember, then the crash happened again (correct me if im wrong?) then i joined and that day i visited each forum one at a time.

what got me hooked? when Dandy pm'd me saying something how much i love BBoys etc etc. i was thinking "oh ok! cool! someone here actually reads my shit" so thanks Barb. (y)

and i pm'd damaja saying how cool his avatar was (a rebel alliance logo) and how cool his sig was (a couple of lines from 'mystery of chessboxin').

[Documad]

I never came in to BF and mostly posted in other music and BBs live. But there was this provocative (sp?) thread title that was always on the main index in this section. I FINALLY went in to read it, and it was full of the worst advice and dangerous nonsense I had ever seen, so I posted a big lecture. I truly can't help myself. :o

About a month later, I finally entered Sure Shots for the same reason.

[GreenEarthAl]

I used to go on the RATM board every day and post lyrics and stuff. From time to time I would look at other message boards to see if they had any place to post lyrics.

The Beastie Boys MB had no forum to place to post lyrics and poems. So I registered but never posted for many months.

I wrote some lyrics that I really wanted to post around. And then the FBI shut down the RATM Message Board right after 9/11.

I came back here looking for a place to post them, and since there never has been a place for this, I just went ahead and posted the lyrics on the Political board.

Then I got totally bitched out by all the libertarians. MayDay defended me, and so I started hanging around over there. For a long while I just jumped in on any thread that Blighty made and tried to lay down cover for him, but then I just started blasting out on my own.

One day, I wasn't thinking clearly and I came in to check this forum out.

Then many hours of my life disappeared.

[avignon]

Myself, Rosie Cotton, Lopprofessor the Traitor, and Toucanspam prayed at the foothills of Administrators Peak for divine approval, and then set off through the desert of 'Milarepa Fund', the Artic perils of 'Beastie General', and finally the wholly nightmarish realm of 'Frequent Post Archive'. After my party were felled by a ghoulish creature that lived upon the periphery of perception moaning :"Which Beastie is the hottest?", my foolhardy trek to the fabled realm of 'Other Music' seemed hopeless. It was then that I came upon the lush forest of Mother 'Beastie Free' and supped upon her teat, sliding in and out of consciousness, eating suspicious berries.

How hearty we were....
hahahahahahahaha! Teat!




Anyway, I found my way here to see how far I'd have to go to get to a concert on this tour. I lurked around for a while and then couldn't stay out of BG. After my very first post, I was hit with pm's from some of the well-known BG trolls telling me to avoid you lot at all costs. I was told that the devil himself is a BF poster. So I immediately came over here. Funny thing is, I don't post in BG anymore because the trolls are so nazi about what you can and can't post. And all you devils over here are cuddly teddy bears to me. And the longer I stay, the more I grow to hate you all and now, I only stick around to keep all you hos from pawing at my man.

[hpdrifter]

I was looking for a new posting board home and decided to check here as Beasties are one of my favorite bands. BG got boring after awhile (I mean how many times can you really post about which Beastie lyric typifies you?) so I checked out BF and the topics were interesting so I stayed. Then mickill PMed me to tell me how awesome I am and I felt like I knew someone. So I stuck around.

[enree erzweglle]

And then the FBI shut down the RATM Message Board right after 9/11.

Wha?

[avignon]

I was told that the devil himself is a BF poster.
And they said his username is RobMoney, by the way.

[Lindsey_1535]

My brother had got a job so he couldn't hog up the computexter much anymore soooo I was free to take it. I did and I didn't know what to do so I thought I look around everywhere. One day it came to me to ge to beastieboys.com for no reason at all. I did. I joined up and here I am. I hovered in general and in free and still kinda do but mostly just free now. OK cool beans.

[kll]

And they said his username is RobMoney, by the way.
it amazes me that cjhood would give him that much credit...

[adam_f]

I posted in the political forum for awhile showing off my superior intelligence that has since transformed into a knowledge the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air more than anything. I really got dumb fast.

Anyway, I wandered over here and never left except for those 18 or 19 times I said I was gonna leave.

[GreenEarthAl]

Wha?

it's TRUE.

On September 13th, 2001, the Rage Against the Machine Message Board shut down. It was hosted by a corporation called infoPOP. infoPOP had received a letter from the F.B.I. requesting them to take down the message board because of what they percieved as behavior that was a threat to the U.S.A.'s national security. infoPOP complied with this request so all the users of the board, like myself, instead of finding the board there that morning, found a brief letter from infoPOP explaining the situation.

[avignon]

it amazes me that cjhood would give him that much credit...
It was wints.

[enree erzweglle]

it's TRUE.

On September 13th, 2001, the Rage Against the Machine Message Board shut down. It was hosted by a corporation called infoPOP. infoPOP had received a letter from the F.B.I. requesting them to take down the message board because of what they percieved as behavior that was a threat to the U.S.A.'s national security. infoPOP complied with this request so all the users of the board, like myself, instead of finding the board there that morning, found a brief letter from infoPOP explaining the situation.
Because MBs are scenes of such violence. And terrorist activity.
It's good to be an american.

[kll]

:eek:

I'm Sleeping with the Devil???

:confused:

^^Kll...he's just trying to throw people off of his scent...

what does the devil smell like then?

[avignon]

what does the devil smell like than?
brimstone and semen

[avignon]

i almost choked on my water just now.

THANKS! :mad:
It was though! She told me to stay away from here or he'd get me.

[HEIRESS]

I got my first computer in the late fall of 2000

I came looking for lyrics in early 2001

bypassed bg and came straight to bf

wasn't much of a superstar, didnt even post a picture for over a year

was asked to be a sureshots mod for a bit a year or so later

thought Id atleast get some free stickers for the gig and didnt but ah well

and im still here

the end.

[Loppfessor]

Myself, Rosie Cotton, Lopprofessor the Traitor, and Toucanspam prayed at the foothills of Administrators Peak for divine approval, and then set off through the desert of 'Milarepa Fund', the Artic perils of 'Beastie General', and finally the wholly nightmarish realm of 'Frequent Post Archive'. After my party were felled by a ghoulish creature that lived upon the periphery of perception moaning :"Which Beastie is the hottest?", my foolhardy trek to the fabled realm of 'Other Music' seemed hopeless. It was then that I came upon the lush forest of Mother 'Beastie Free' and supped upon her teat, sliding in and out of consciousness, eating suspicious berries.

How hearty we were....


First off it's LOPPFESSOR, not Lopprofessor, second why am I traitor???

[marsdaddy]

During the dotcom crash I took a crappy, boring job that didn't require my full attention and didn't get it. I was surfing the web from work, and came across this site. I posted (incorrectly, as I later discovered) in BF something about if anyone knew if and when there might be a new album. I checked back later that day and no one had replied -- and my thread was moved to BG. I didn't check back for a month or so -- when I did, minton had replied with something very vague but encouraging.

Then 9/11 happened. I was pretty freaked out and really couldn't pay attention at work. I came here a few days after and went to BF because of a thread title on the bbmb page. The thread recounted some of the news reports of 9/11 in which BobbyD posted some pretty poignant remarks. It drew me in. I don't think I even posted in that thread, but I read it thoroughly. When I came across GEA, a-z, and myth/perse posts I was pretty much hooked.

[RobMoney]

It was wints.


I knew it was wints from your story. I knew that crazy bitch was doing weird stuff like that, telling noobs to avoid BF and me, almost dictating it to them.
She had some major problems. Can you believe she accused me of stalking her ?


.......and some of you think I'm the weirdo.

[RobMoney]

fb2k and ba01 (and later psy) were all people that i knew for years from a yahoo club called the underground beastie spot (still in operation) and after meeting all of them at coachella, along with tpk and (for about two seconds) minton, they convinced me to join. i did, but didn't post much or even lurk for a while...then last year around march or april i started to get sucked in, heh. jim was the first person to really talk to me (surprise surprise). i got to be buddies with Echewta and Beth. then, Steger made me a birthday thread and i was hooked :)


Interesting, I thought you were here for much longer for some reason. You started seriously posting around the same time I joined.


It's been interesting to read the way you've all found this place

[cosmo105]

i do know the history of this place because of the many people i talk to that have been here forever (especially steger), and because ferris used to talk about it all the time. i always meant to join when i was younger, but never got around to it. i was sort of a casual observer for a long time. i used to go in the old java chat allll the time, met a bunch of freaks there

[b-grrrlie]

I had checked out beastieboys.com when I was at school and continued when I moved back home. I only had a limited access to internet at first so I just checked the most important news. Then I got broadband and started checking out other places as well. I started off with Other Music, it took quite a long time before I dared to even read BFGD. But then being unemployed for two winters makes time go really slow and then I got stuck....

Oh yeah and when the board crashed and there was this temporary board which I found pretty quick and got more comfortable with the people (i.e. wasn't scared anymore) so I started posting more when the real board got back.

[TurdBerglar]

i first started comeing here back in 2000 senior year during class to find any news of any new releases or anything. i started to read the forums and basically i found you retards pretty fuckn' amuseing. so i'd come here everyday dureing class to stay caught of with you fuckers. i did the same thing dureing my fisrt stint of "college". then i got the internet about 2 years ago and i decided to sign up and play along with you guys. that's why i new so much about you people when i first joined and i assumed that's why you all thought i was an alias.

[little j]

um. 2000 or 1999?
i came because i was bored at school and i thought "hey i like the beastie boys, i wonder if they have a cool website" and then i looked and i was like "hey whats a message board?" and then i was like "im addicted" and that was day 1.

here i am forever later, and try as i may i cant totally let go

[zorra_chiflada]

i haven't been here as long as the rest of the majority of people who posted in this thread.
i signed up after TT5B came out because i wanted to search for something - and you had to be a member.
i lurked around for a little while, and i don't think i posted in beastie general until maybe september. it seems a fuckload longer than that.

[HotAndWet]

Bun was mad that people here were being mean to her, so she asked I be an alias and butt-in a little. It turned out to be a lot, obviously.

I never really listened to the Beastie Boys, either.
Actually, I remember I would always talk about it and you thought it sounded fun so you decided to join, right?

[Loppfessor]

This is one of those threads where no one actually reads the other posts....they just want to share their own and hope everyone else reads it....just an observation

[TurdBerglar]

i've read every single one

[QueenAdrock]

i got bored just constantly talking about beasties cause all of my questions were answered . once i ran out of things to ask i did a bit of exploring and found bfgd and was surprised how many ppl post here so i've been here ever since

same here

QueeenAdr0ck: est. 1998

[Documad]

At 12:56 p.m., Re things you hate the most about the board:
5. People who say obnoxious/abusive things to women. I fail to see how calling women "bitches" and things similar is funny. It makes me wanna reach through the computer and tear out your adam's apple. You have no class and aren't making anyone laugh.

Three hours later:
I knew that crazy bitch was doing weird stuff like that, telling noobs to avoid BF and me, almost dictating it to them.

I can't possibly be the only person who noticed that RobMoney and cjhood didn't stalk each other all over the board until she left.

If we're all going to start spilling our dirty PM secrets it would make for interesting reading but it would hurt a lot of feelings. Everyone gossips. Everyone stirs up shit. Most people pretend they don't. Four people warned me never to post in BF. They were all men. I shrugged it off.

And for the love of God, I have no problem with the word "bitch" and I am proud to be one, blah blah blah. It's been a truly shitty week.

[Loppfessor]

^ LOL priceless.....

[Freebasser]

One day I thought "Let's go and join up to BeastieBoys.com and piss around on the messageboard", whereupon I signed up, posted in BG about 20 times over the following 6 months, then when I got a bit more time I decided to try my hand at some dodgy photoshoppery over in sure shots, which was my ticket to BF.

[Kid Presentable]

I love Robert The Mirthless' constant revelation of 'finding' this place. It makes me :D .

How did you find BFGD?

Clicked on it you fuck!!!!!

[King PSYZ]

i first came here in or around late 2000, norcen who was going by dr. lee phd and a few others scared me off for a while as i wasn't used to this whole message board thingy. when i came to the site in 97 it had a chat room and you had to be on your toes to keep up.

then i got my own computer right after all the shit went down with 9/11. stayed in bg until one night i got bored and wandered down to see sak (AKA Toy BIS) and her then boy Nikoto saying some pretty outlandish racist remarks, I got all huffed up and mythago AKA lemmy's liver had my back (he had a sweet ghost dog avatar) and then GEA said something i took as defending toy and at the time i called him just as bad (whoops).

it's been my internet heroin ever since.

[Lex Diamonds]

i first came here in or around late 2000, norcen who was going by dr. lee phd and a few others scared me off for a while as i wasn't used to this whole message board thingy.
Same. (y)

[RobMoney]

If we're all going to start spilling our dirty PM secrets it would make for interesting reading but it would hurt a lot of feelings. Everyone gossips. Everyone stirs up shit. Most people pretend they don't. Four people warned me never to post in BF. They were all men. I shrugged it off.

And for the love of God, I have no problem with the word "bitch" and I am proud to be one, blah blah blah. It's been a truly shitty week.


She was a bitch, and everyone knows it. She more than earned the right to be called that.

Funny how you still feel the need to defend her after all this time Documad. Considering the story Celeste posted about her being PM'd by wints after only a few posts only to have wints single me out to talk shit about. People told me similar stories about her doing similar things, but I gave wints more credit and dismissed what they said as lies. Now I believe every word to be true.

The really disturbing thing about the whole thing is that wints was supposed to be some sort of teacher of kids, like an elementary school teacher.

Frightening to think she has control of young minds.

[Documad]

Rob, I liked her. You didn't. I don't want to discuss her because I'm not big on talking about people behind their backs. It's just that I realized the moment you posted that thing about not insulting women that you would be eating your words, but I never dreamed it would be so soon.

We've been through this before. I only know what I saw: You belittle the people who post over in general beastie. I went to a lot of concerts. I worship the band. I posted over there a lot when I was following the tour. I had no idea who you were until a few months ago. I never noticed you posting stuff in general beastie about the band. I don't remember you joining in discussions re the tour. I only noticed you bringing hostile personal stuff about other board members in there and that it was always completely off topic and out of line. I don't claim to read every post, it's just what I noticed. I'll never forget when you took delight in the remaining tour dates being cancelled. That was really mean. I would have been crushed if the band had cancelled my Australian dates. It was one of the best things I ever did in my life.

I know most people on this side don't go over there. It may be difficult for others to imagine you letting things get personal vis a vis another board member. It may be difficult for them to believe that you would follow someone around teasing him about his shirt for instance. :rolleyes:

Don't worry about me standing up for anyone who's here or not here. I've decided to quit posting in BFGD for a while. I've enjoyed a lot of the people but it's not a good fit for me.

[King PSYZ]

that's too bad because we could use more intelligent posters and less of the other kind.

[ToucanSpam]

August 1st, 2004


Randomly checked out the website. Then made a joke board name. Nearly 5000 posts later, I relaize I am a fucking retard.

[RobMoney]

That's a real shame and I hope you aren't making your decision out of anger over this.

[RobMoney]

Rob, I liked her. You didn't. I don't want to discuss her because I'm not big on talking about people behind their backs. It's just that I realized the moment you posted that thing about not insulting women that you would be eating your words, but I never dreamed it would be so soon.

Yeah, well like I said, she actually earned the name in my mind if what people tell me is true, and I believe them to be.

We've been through this before. I only know what I saw: You belittle the people who post over in general beastie. I went to a lot of concerts. I worship the band. I posted over there a lot when I was following the tour. I had no idea who you were until a few months ago. I never noticed you posting stuff in general beastie about the band.

Well I did join this site before TT5B was released and spent my first few months over there as well. I guess it was before you joined. Sorry if I became bored with the things being discussed in that forum, but to tell the truth, I've forgotten more about the band then most of the people contributing anything in there. I've been a fan since LTI. "What do the boys eat for breakfast" and "Who is Country Mike" become old real fast.

I don't remember you joining in discussions re the tour. I only noticed you bringing hostile personal stuff about other board members in there and that it was always completely off topic and out of line. I don't claim to read every post, it's just what I noticed. I'll never forget when you took delight in the remaining tour dates being cancelled. That was really mean. I would have been crushed if the band had cancelled my Australian dates. It was one of the best things I ever did in my life.

Well I realize I'm the only one who ever did anything to her and she is completely innocent of ever doing or saying anything out of line to me. Documad, the girl was telling new members to avoid me and BFGD. She even went so far as to tell certain younger and impressionable members, telling them "Hey, there's a noob on the forum, go start shit with them" influencing them to pick on certain people because she didn't like them. Were you aware of that?

I know most people on this side don't go over there. It may be difficult for others to imagine you letting things get personal vis a vis another board member. It may be difficult for them to believe that you would follow someone around teasing him about his shirt for instance. :rolleyes:

I felt she didn't like me because #1, I was a man and she was clearly a militant feminist and #2, I was one of the only people who ever stood up and called her on her bullshit. Maybe some people didn't really care enough to get into it with her, but she was out of control with some of the feminist crap she was pulling. Even some of the women on here agreed with me on that.

Don't worry about me standing up for anyone who's here or not here. I've decided to quit posting in BFGD for a while. I've enjoyed a lot of the people but it's not a good fit for me.

Well, like I said, that is a shame and I hope it's not solely because of this issue.

[steve-onpoint]

i clicked on the mouse and came here.

[Beckalina]

BRAINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[avignon]

What the fuck have I done now?


I have felt horrible about my behavior in this thread since immediately after it. I was telling synch about what an ass I made of myself on the phone a few hours after I posted in this thread, and he said that I should just write a brief apology and stop worrying about it. Then I hadn't had time to come back here in quite a while, and it seems too late for that since it escalated way out of hand.

First, I should never have referred to anything anyone said to me in a pm on the board. That was extremely rude. It all started out as a joke and I let it get way out of hand. I feel like a complete asshole and have never said anything that I regretted so much on this board ever.

Second, I tried very hard to get along with wints. We were able to be polite and somewhat friendly towards each other while we were both here, but our personalities seemed to constantly be at odds. I can't help but feel that she was always disappointed in me--this thread shows why she should be.

Third, I exaggerated the conversations about Rob because I was joking. The fact is I don't remember exactly what was said. I do remember her pointing out threads where the two of them were arguing and I remember Rob posting, "STFU you annoying cunt" in huge bold letters. She was explaining to me about the fighting between BG and BF at the time.

I like Rob. I was teasing him about this stuff in this thread because I like him and I know he can take it. I should have not brought up wints because I know that she can't take that type of teasing, plus she isn't around, and had she been, she would have inevitibly ripped my ass for it. And she would have been in the right to rip my ass for it.

Documad, I really enjoy your posts about all topics. I love that you started posting more in BF because you have so much to say and can talk about anything here. I did think that you began posting here more frequently because wints left, so she wouldn't be upset by some feeling of betrayal. I don't want there to be any arguing between BG and BF. I think that it's silly, and the grown-ups who post here frequently should set an example and get along. So I was very glad to see you posting here more. I will feel absolutely sick if you are not posting here anymore because of me. If it is because of me, please let me be the one to go. You have much more to bring to the board than I do, and my childish behavior in this thread shows that.

I don't know what else to say except that I was wrong for posting the things that I did and I apologize to anyone who was hurt by it.

~Celeste

[QweenOfBoggle]

~Celeste

Of course, I certainly haven't read the whole thread, but seriously...is your name really Celeste? I named my car Celestia and I thought it was unique and individual. I have to know! :)

[cosmo105]

that's crazy. i've been thinking about that name recently and how much i like it. and how i want to name my daughter Celeste.

[QweenOfBoggle]

yeah...it's a badass name.

[Documad]

Wow, I didn't mean to cause this kind of drama. We've all said things we regret. I've been lucky enough to post them mostly in the middle of the night when I can edit before anyone reads them. In my real life I have a real knack for saying stupid hurtful things in large groups, like at dinner parties. Avignon, there is no reason on earth for you to go anywhere or quit posting or any such nonsense. I appreciate you explaining some context. I have no problem with you at all. Honestly.

I really don't want to discuss wints. I worry that discussing her will cause a whole pile of people to start picking her apart again. This is one mean board. I hear it always was. For my money, wints was intelligent, passionate, and easily baited and there are a few people here who took special pleasure in baiting her. Once roused, she didn't back down. I generally like people like that. Many people don't.

Avignon, I remember the day you joined. You started posting in the middle of one of the most heated debates we ever had over in GB. The thread was recently deleted, but I remember you bringing up topics that were pointedly feminist in nature. And while I hadn't yet realized that being a feminist is apparently the worst crime you can commit on this board, I frankly thought people would beat you up and you would leave. I guess my first impression wasn't accurate. I was surprised but glad that you found your place.

Wints never encouraged me not to post in BF and I'd be very sorry if anyone assumed anything of that sort. This was my first message board and I was intimidated for a long time. I didn't understand all the internet speak and flashy avatars and stuff. And back when I joined there were so many newbies that the threads moved so fast in BF and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. I posted in other music for months. And then I started posting about the tour. The only contact I had with most BF people would be the few who came over and did stupid shit to bait the newbies in GB. I made some snide public remarks about BF, I'm sure.

I came back from Australia in February. I was going to quit the board then because the tour was over. Somehow I wound up posting more than ever. And saying lots of stupid things. I blame the Australians. And the PETA thread. And damn it, I found that I actually like a lot of people here. But more and more I find that there are a lot of people who I don't much like. And I find it more and more difficult to avoid them. Especially given all the recent negative threads and fights. I have a personality where I find it difficult to keep quiet about what I think. And I'm always honest. So I figured that I would be better off if I quit reading the threads in BF for a while. I'd quit altogether but I enjoy the little bits of BBs news and I really enjoy the posts other people make in other music--so much that I can't just leave. In my 2 days away, I think I got only one snipe and I wouldn't have noticed it was a snipe if someone hadn't pointed it out.

This is way too long again and I already typed my manifesto once in the admin section.

Avignon should not leave. That's insane. And the last thing I want. If she leaves, it's safe to say that I'll have to too. For one thing, Kristen would fucking kill me. :) I'm going to PM Avignon but if she's not paying attention to PMs I hope someone will email her and tell her nice try but she's not getting away from the board that easily.

[I messed this up a few times in typing it but I give up. I had a lot of hard cider tonight. Brits are forbidden to make fun of me for that.]

[Documad]

Sorry, I keep messing up the other post.

Avignon/Celeste, I thought your comment re the PM was out of character for you. Everything I've seen about you here was at odds with that. We all do silly things. In retrospect, I should have PM'd you about it. I didn't because I wasn't mad at you and your comment wasn't the issue with me.

My issue was with Rob. I'm certain he's sent PMs that were critical of wints and others but he's absolutely paranoid that others might be talking about him. Of course they are! Big surprise! And I know that people have talked about me. I'd rather be talked about than be a nonentity.

You have much more to bring to the board than I do
That's a fucking lie!


I have a good friend named Celeste. She's older than me. It's funny because her family isn't even a little bit exotic but they gave their kids cool names.

btw, I am going to be so fucked at work tomorrow.

[RobMoney]

My issue was with Rob. I'm certain he's sent PMs that were critical of wints and others but he's absolutely paranoid that others might be talking about him. Of course they are! Big surprise! And I know that people have talked about me. I'd rather be talked about than be a nonentity.


First, how can you be so certain about the topic of my PM's to anyone? That's completely presumptious of you and you couldn't be more wrong. Whatever I had to say to or about wints, I said it for public consumption, for her and everyone to see. I didn't use the PM function all that much back when wints was here, but now I do use it a lot more. It's not my style to talk crap behind people's backs like she did. I think everyone on this board knows this about me. If I have something to say, I will say it to your face. She was a sneaky person and I was on to her the whole time. She tried to portray this "holier than thou" personna in public on here, but privately she was one of the most immature and petty people I've ever come into contact with. Telling 15 y.o girls to attack "noobs" and telling people in GB to avoid BF and me. I'm sorry Documad, that's pathetic.

Secondly, you have always been very passive-agressive towards me Documad. Whenever you respond to me or have something to say to me, there's usually a little backhanded dig thrown in. Just look at your post (#70), it's filled with little jabs at me. Maybe you thought I was too dumb to recognize when you were trying to insult me, but I just choose to ignore it rather than get into yet another fight with yet another person from this board. I even went so far as to send you a PM asking you weather you disliked me or not because of your passive-aggressive tactic you use towards me. You said you enjoyed my presence on the board and that I reminded you of your brother. Now you are accusing me of being dishonest and secretly trying to spread rumors about wints and BG?

As far as your comment about me being "paranoid" about people talking about me (another example of your passive-aggressive little digs), I seriously couldn't care less. This place is a soap-opera, Everyone is just looking for the next juicy bit of gossip to talk about. I truly understand the meaning of "INTERNET". I can just turn off my computer and POOF you are vapor. Problem solved.

If you want to make some grand exit because of something as stupid as this, that is your decision. But please spare us the drama how it is such a horrible thing, the things that were posted in this thread. Give me a break.

Let me know when you have people from outside the board coming here to stalk you.
Let me know when people go out of their way to instigate fights on here between you and your boyfriend
Let me know when someone threatens you on here
Because I've dealt with all of these things in the past week on this board and you don't see me announcing my exodus......So I hope you'll forgive me if I fail to shed a tear.

[enree erzweglle]

Mae, that was a nice post. And this is something I agree with strongly:

I very rarely get involved in these little spats. Not my style. Debates, sure, but not personal arguments.
Those arguments usually break down into a battle of wills and those are usually not valuable.

I try to give people the room to learn and then make decisions for themselves. That means recognizing the flashpoint when something goes from a discussion to a debate to an argument to a battle of wills and backing out at the right time.

I could cram my opinion right down the throats of a lot of people, but what good does that do for me or them. It just intimidates them into doing/saying what other people want them to do/say and they never learn or grow for themselves and do those things for the right reasons.

I try to do things to let people learn their own lessons in life and learn them in the right way. It's not easy to do that...you get pressure to join the discussion-debate-argument and you're seen as being weak or uncaring if you don't (when actually quite the opposite is the case. If I didn't care, I would cram & intimidate away.)

[avignon]

Hi! I'm a drama queen. How are you today?

OK, seriously, I felt bad that Doc said she'd quit posting and I thought that it was my fault for drudging all this up-and I would rather leave than be the one to have completely alienated someone from this forum. But she and I talked about it and it's all better now.

So everybody move on. Nothing to see here, folks. But why the hell is everyone naming their cars after me?

[avignon]

If you want to make some grand exit because of something as stupid as this, that is your decision. But please spare us the drama how it is such a horrible thing, the things that were posted in this thread. Give me a break.

Let me know when you have people from outside the board coming here to stalk you.
Let me know when people go out of their way to instigate fights on here between you and your boyfriend
Let me know when someone threatens you on here
Because I've dealt with all of these things in the past week on this board and you don't see me announcing my exodus......So I hope you'll forgive me if I fail to shed a tear.
If this is about me, I'm so going to push you into a sticker bush.

[RobMoney]

But she and I talked about it and it's all better now.

At least someone got an apology.

[RobMoney]

If this is about me, I'm so going to push you into a sticker bush.


NO, that entire post was directed at Documad.

[enree erzweglle]

First, how can you be so certain about the topic of my PM's to anyone? That's completely presumptious of you and you couldn't be more wrong. Whatever I had to say to or about wints, I said it for public consumption, for her and everyone to see. I didn't use the PM function all that much back when wints was here, but now I do use it a lot more. It's not my style to talk crap behind people's backs like she did. I think everyone on this board knows this about me. If I have something to say, I will say it to your face.

^^^nice post (all of it--I just deleted the rest of it for the sake of brevity)

[avignon]

^^^nice post (all of it--I just deleted the rest of it for the sake of brevity)
"Brevity is the by-product of vigor!" --Strunk and White's The Elements of Style

[enree erzweglle]

"Brevity is the by-product of vigor!" --Strunk and White's The Elements of Style
And everyone on this board knows that when I post, I AM that rule. :)

[Laver1969]

I think it's worth noting more people "watch" the soap opera than actually participate in it.

For example, there are 21 members signed on, and 208 guests currently.

[RobMoney]

yeah, but I'll bet a majority of them are viewing GB, looking for info about the band

....kinda disturbing none the less

[enree erzweglle]

I think it's worth noting more people "watch" the soap opera than actually participate in it.

For example, there are 21 members signed on, and 208 guests currently.
I lurked from different places before I joined. And even after I joined, it took awhile to engage.

[Qdrop]

hmmmm....let's see...

i used to come to beastieboys.com back in 96-97....for lyrics, videos, ect...and to try and get a scoop on the upcoming album.
at the time..the beasties were all into that "submarine phase"....the homepage even had submarine blueprints on it...
the rumor was that the new album was gonna be called "underwater rhymes" and was gonna have a submarine theme....
obviously it turned to be Hello Nasty.

i got back into beastieboys.com when hello nasty was about to come out...and i would go to hear snippets of the album, hear intergalactic, and get tour info...
i think i ordered tickets online for the toronto show.

this whole time...i think i went to the chat room like 3 times....

i got back to the site in 2000 for the rhyme and reason tour....i signed up and everything to get online tickets and shit.
i didn't go to the message board though.
well the tour got cancelled....and that was that.

in 2004, right when the album came out...i signed back up...again, for tour info and to get tickets for the toronto show.
but at the time, i was on another local music MB for rochester...so i was a little more versed in message boards in general.
so i actually started going to them.
at first, i only went to the beastie side. i thought it was stupid to come on here just to go to beastie free section.
well needless to say...i had posted about 6 times....and GUESS WHO decided to start up with me: Wints.
yeah...we had a little spat back and forth.
i hated her.
i also argued with rythem fiction for a bit too...
most of this was on the Prodigy thread.....that thing went on for weeks.

i quickly realized the beastie general section was the most pathetic board in existance...and made me embarrassed to be a fan.
the threads were laughable, as we all know...
and criticizing posters for it was like yelling at a wall...
so i slid over to the general politcal board for debate and just stayed there mostly.

well, i quit that other local board due to issues with people on there that i actually knew and saw...
and just kinda came fulltime to this board in like august 2004......i still stayed on the politcal section (and sometimes music) for about 90% of the time....

but the general political board started waining about 6 months ago...so i found myself coming to BF to pass the time....

i hate you all......

[Documad]

I could cram my opinion right down the throats of a lot of people, but what good does that do for me or them. It just intimidates them into doing/saying what other people want them to do/say and they never learn or grow for themselves and do those things for the right reasons.

I try to do things to let people learn their own lessons in life and learn them in the right way. It's not easy to do that...you get pressure to join the discussion-debate-argument and you're seen as being weak or uncaring if you don't (when actually quite the opposite is the case. If I didn't care, I would cram & intimidate away.)

I'm a mess this morning because I played too hard last night and then spent too much time trying to type in the middle of the night, and I have to try and get to work at a reasonable hour.

This here post is a good example. There are posts dripping with veiled comments clearly directed at particular people which to me seem mean but to others must not. Granted, I'm more sensitive than the average person, but I also find that I'm rarely wrong. The best way for me to avoid them is just to get a little distance and hope things cool out.

enree, you post this kind of stuff behind me in beastie and here and I can't ever tell if it's directed at me or at someone who has already left the board. Then I bristle and sometimes put you on ignore and other times respond or pretend I think it's saying something else. It seems directed at me, because post it after me so often. If so, I wish you would just say so. Maybe it's just your life's philosophy and you're posting it without thinking. Maybe we just both post in the same places all the time and it's a coincidence. This stuff keeps leading to misunderstandings, which you must be aware of by now. Like yesterday when you apparently WERE criticizing me, but everyone else thought you were criticizing the thread starter. It feels personal because I can't imagine that you would tell anyone but me that it's wrong for me to criticize Madonna for instance. I mean really! Or how everyone else can criticize the band, but if one particular person or I post even a mild criticism of the band you'll post a similar message inferring that it's wrong to criticize the band because maybe they'll quit. In the meantime you overtly say really nice things to everyone. I feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes. Only I know I'm not.

So for once please tell me if I am the one who is cramming my opinion down everyone's throat? And am I doing this by saying that I disagree with something someone said? Am I doing this more than other people who have strong opinions about how the world should operate, or is there some other thing that bothers you about my style in particular? I'm not trying to be popular. I say nice things because I mean them. I say critical things because I mean them. Sometimes I need to stuff a sock in it. No one knows that more than me.

I completely understand why people don't want to get involved in expressing their honest opinion on a message board when it will cause debate. I enjoy debate but others don't. We all come here for different reasons and it's okay to just have fun and post silly photos and one liners. And believe it or not, lots of times I see trouble brewing and I just turn off the computer.

But if that statement above is truly your life's philosophy off the board, I personally think it's fucked up. None of the progress that our country made in the past has happened because good people sat around waiting for other people to find it in their hearts to change. Speaking up about problems is the first step. Getting off our asses and doing something is more difficult. I don't want to get overly dramatic because this is a silly debate on a silly board. Too late I suppose. [I think this philosophy, which someone else supported once, is interesting and I think that we should do a political thread on it.]

Rob, I said some of the stuff about you publically -- like the stuff about my brother--that wasn't in a PM. I value your opinion for a lot of reasons. I actually do like a whole lot about you. I like that I know when you're mad at me and you don't use veiled comments. I like that you have a viewpoint on issues that is different from younger men. But I cringe at a lot of what you post--not because it involves me or someone who I liked but because I think you're embarrassing yourself sometimes and I think you come across as emotionally unstable sometimes. You care too much what others think of you. And your attacks are too personal and petty. The stuff Mae posted about you made sense to me because it's always been obvious to me that there is a lot more to you than what's on this board.

As for the part of my post that Rob said and enree quoted about PMs: I was talking in part about my own personal experience in PMing Rob. Since he discussed it I'll say this. He and I both said mildly critical things about other board members to each other. It wasn't mean but more along the lines of "I can see why you can't get along with this person even though I like her whereas this person drives me crazy and I'm sure you like her." I think it's inappropriate to say things publically and I rarely say them privately. Airing them would only hurt people's feelings. I've said things I wish I hadn't which is why I try not to confide in anyone. I also heard from others who might or might not have told me the truth about Rob's PMs to them earlier. I'm not going to go into that here. I'm just pointing out that whatever rumors Rob heard, there is gossip going on about everyone who has any sort of profile here. I've heard some good stuff about me and I deserve it.

I'm not exiting and I am honestly trying to avoid that. I was never leaving and never meant to say I was. In two days away from this forum, I never read a negative comment (except enree's about my Madonna comment but I can take that silly stuff :)). I'm going to put a few people on ignore along with my old buddy and that should end my role in the drama. Sorry to everyone.

I've been coming here a year now and I want to start a thread but I'll probably wait a little longer now. That's all. :)

And if I lose my job over this board, that will be the stupidest thing in the history of the world.

[Documad]

Rob, I reread my post 70 a few times and I don't see references to you. You're one of the few people who baited wints (in my mind). But beyond that I wasn't intending to refer to you. I've always tried to be direct when I'm saying something to someone. Maybe you and I are both too sensitive and probably read criticism that isn't meant to be there.

I keep making a bigger and bigger mess, which is exactly why I need to step away. Sorry.

[enree erzweglle]

I didn't read your whole post.

Just up to the part where you said that maybe I post without thinking.

I never do that.

I just weigh what I say.

Most times, I say what I say to no one specifically. I am reacting to what I read here. In my head, that reminds me of things I've seen in life (particularly as a mother), and THAT makes me want to post what I'm thinking.

If I have anything specific that I want to say to a person, I do so in a PM.

[Rancid_Beasties]

Documad, you know I think you rock but could you do like a summary for me of most of your posts in this thread? Or could I get it on audio cassette or something :)

I have no opinion whatsoever on whats being going on because I dont get what all the hubbub is about. I just wanted to say I would be quite unhappy if you left documad. And I really dont see why you would need to, unless you are saying you are on here too often and its affecting your work. Then I'd tend to agree, but dont leave here altogether, that would suck :(

How did I find beastie free, well I kinda got sick of beastie general and wanted to talk about other stuff. But I did kinda go Beastie general=>beastie free=>political=>beastie free=>other music=> and now I just sit in beastie free most of the time.

[avignon]

Documad, you know I think you rock but could you do like a summary for me of most of your posts in this thread? Or could I get it on audio cassette or something :)

I have no opinion whatsoever on whats being going on because I dont get what all the hubbub is about. I just wanted to say I would be quite unhappy if you left documad. And I really dont see why you would need to, unless you are saying you are on here too often and its affecting your work. Then I'd tend to agree, but dont leave here altogether, that would suck :(

How did I find beastie free, well I kinda got sick of beastie general and wanted to talk about other stuff. But I did kinda go Beastie general=>beastie free=>political=>beastie free=>other music=> and now I just sit in beastie free most of the time.
As far as I know, everything has been worked out and no one is leaving. Wasn't this thread buried? Stop living in the past.

;)