the fans extremely overestimate the importance of the bboys to hiphop

[King of Rock II]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.

[Pootytang]

SHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone else. This is suppose to be a secret.the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.

[rlwelch]

Even if they didn't influence anyone, they'd still be important for keeping it real and producing so much good music over so many years. Not many artists can boast such a long-running, varied and successful career in rap music as the b-boys. They have more staying power than any other rap act, period. (y)

[Brooklyn Babe]

Many rappers like Run DMC and Eminem among others have often stated that the Beastie Boys were extremely important in pioneering rap music - so its not just the fans that feel this way.

[Tzar]

if they did, or didn't, influence people - i'm cool with that.

i'll still love them for what they do which is make top-knotch music.

[djc1980]

i think the beasties are the main reason rap became mainstream

[Junker]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.

Thats true!!!! I think Grand Master Flash, Sugarl Hill Gang, Afrika Bambaataa, The Furious Five (just to name a few) werent influenced by the Beastie Boys too

[Odie]

I think people overestimate importance of hiphop

[Laver1969]

I have the official numbers right here.

The Beasties have inspired 17 people. They have influenced 39 people. They have motivated 104 folks. And have positively affected an additional 176 people.

That's not too shabby.

[Junker]

I have the official numbers right here.

The Beasties have inspired 17 people. They have influenced 39 people. They have motivated 104 folks. And have positively affected an additional 176 people.

That's not too shabby.

impressive numbers, huh? :D

[Weezman]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.


Ooh i believe it was more than one "fun", song on LTI(1986), that had inluence if any to hip-hoppers today and yesterday. :p

[timmie]

In an interview many, many moons ago with U2! Bono said that listening to Pauls Boutique on the tour bus, they are & have influenced us (U2) that album also relax us & gave us raw energy before we went on stage.

Just thought I would share that!

[Homsar]

Even if they didn't influence anyone, they'd still be important for keeping it real

What exactly are they keeping "real"?

[dave790]

but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.

what's your point? if someone starts rapping, the chances are it's a million different things over time that's influenced or inspired them. it'd be unfair to say the Beasties brought hip hop to the mainstream, or use that as an argument to display their importance to hiphop, simply as it wasn't soley them. things happen, things may blow up at certain points, and it'll never be down to just one thing.

the beasties have played a part, be it big or small, in the world of hip hop and in terms of how it's developed, simply because they've been there...and been there from fairly early stages I may add. let fans enjoy the simple fact they've made brilliant and diverse music over a period of time, and have always done their own thing.

i personally couldn't give a shit if they've influenced or inspired anyone. they certainly have...i mean there's perfect examples in people's responses in this thread, but that's not why i'm a fan.

dave

[King of Rock II]

my point is that the part they played was fairly small as opposed to what most fans seem to think.

[King PSYZ]

yes but on the same hand you'll have guys giving props to the cash money millioaires for inspiring them, does that lend any further credence to their musical worth?
fuck no.

yeah the beasties have done something few bands do and that's trancend a single genere, but at the same time you have to understand that because someone inspired you (the fan) doesn't mean they inspired every emcee out there.

[Canibal-7]

I think people overestimate importance of hiphop


Good point. Especially today's hip hop, whiche has absolutely no meaning, and thus means nothing.

[sureshot]

i think your forgetting that beastie boys have influenced house of pain, cypress hill, rage against the machine, just to name a few

[Homsar]

Influencing those bands is nothing to be proud of.

[RaZoRbLaDe KiSs]

kanye west or eminem

yeah, sorry to tell you, but Kayne and Em really dont got shit on the Beasties.

[minorthreat]

the NWA were influenced by the beastie boys. or did they just use hundreds of bboys samples on straight outta compton because they were bored?

[Junker]

Influencing those bands is nothing to be proud of.

You mean influnce bands like Cypress Hill, Rage Against The Machine (btw my second favorite band) and House of Pain is nothing to be proud of?? :mad:
Wake Up dude!!!!

[Kid Presentable]

You mean influnce bands like Cypress Hill, Rage Against The Machine (btw my second favorite band) and House of Pain is nothing to be proud of?? :mad:
Wake Up dude!!!!

Homsar will drag you naked through a graveyard before you could even begin to justify yourself.

[Weezman]

the NWA were influenced by the beastie boys. or did they just use hundreds of bboys samples on straight outta compton because they were bored?


Something had to catch Dr. Dre's for him to sample LTI in ...St8 outta Compton....Considering he's one of the Dopest producers as far as beats and sampling. The Beasties gotta have some influence on that album, weather it be positive or negative. Its all good to me? But who did all those beats for the Beastie's would that be Rick Rubin/Beasties?

eh, all that matters is to me is they influenced me to Fight for my "Right to party"....and to be a "High Plains Drifter", to have "Gratitude", and to "Get it together", find my "Remote Control", and say "F%Ck YOU", even if its for fun. :p


-Weezman :cool:

[Homsar]

Wake Up dude!!!!

I did...I hope you will too someday.

[Junker]

Homsar will drag you naked through a graveyard before you could even begin to justify yourself.

wow.......what a dangerous person he is :eek:

[Junker]

I did...I hope you will too someday.

You did.....right....and then you realised that those bands arent that good.
Is that what you're saying or am I wrong?

[Raina]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.
(lb) Some rappers may have not been inspired by the Beastie Boys, but they do know and seem to recognize that they have some sort of importance in hip hop. The Beastie Boys helped open the door of hip hop to more people and into mainstream america. They've done alot in my opinion. ^_^

You know what, one of Missy Elliots songs samples "Paul Revere" (the backwards sounding music).....I'm not sure which one though....was it the new one?

[intergalactic]

Thats an interesting point there really isnt anything out there in hip-hop that really resembles their work, but they are still one of, if not thee most prominent faces in hip-hop so who cares- most other hip-hop sucks anywhoo :rolleyes:

[timmie]

They were the first white rap group who not only brought together black & white people but the first white rap group in history to sell (LTI) by the millions!! With the varioty of there music samples which, in this day & age now has led to so many bands trying to do the same! but does not work!!!

[cookiepuss]

well I don't really care to debate wheather thier influence was over or under estimated..but I will say that you can't deny they were influential. Before the Beasties, no one was sampling tracks in thier songs to the degree that the b boys did. Since then sampling became increasingly popular in rap as well as other types of music, but if the Beasties hadn't been so successful at it others wouldn't have adopted it so readily.

[Chicka B]

I think there is a difference between the group being important to hip hop and influencing other people or musicians. I personally think they did both. They are important to not only hip hop but to all genres because they made it to where other musicians can do a variety of music instead of just one style if that makes sense. Not only that, but they opened the gate for white people to be rappers. Also, I agree that they definatly helped bring hip hop to the main stream. After they achieved that, with the album Paul's Botique which was at first not commercially successful, they brought hip hop and funk together and used many samples which made the best hip hop album which is now described as a head of it's time, and indeed it is. The Beastie Boys music has definatly influenced and motivated a lot of people (me :D ), maybe not a lot of musicains which I'm not sure of but I'm sure they had a little bit of an effect on the ones who listened to them. In the end it's all about the music.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.


Below is a list of some views about the Beasties circa 1998 (warning it is from a magazine that I would not even wipe my ass with).
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What About the Beastie Boys: Do the White Boy Kings of Rap Still Matter?

The Source, 10.98

Words: John Gill

They raised hell with Run-DMC. Showed how creative the use of sampling can be. Demonstrated how live music has its place in hip-hop. And recently, they sold more records in one week than some rappers do their whole career.

With Ad Rock, MCA and Mike D enjoying phenomenal success with their current LP, Hello Nasty, we wondered about the Beastie Boys’ place in the rap world’s current state of affairs. So we posed the question to some of their peers: Are the Beastie Boys still relevant to today’s hip-hop audience?


Raekwon: “I like the Beastie Boys, them niggas is a-ight. They’ve been around for a minute with Run-DMC and all that; and I know they still know what’s going on in hip-hop too. They on point.”

Heltah Skeltah’s Ruck: “There’s room in hip-hop for that champagne poppin’, there’s room for the hardcore and there’s definitely room for the Beasties. We need variety in this shit. Plus Ad Rock’s my nigga.”

Ras Kass: “I think they moved on to a new genre. They’re incorporating alternative music; but they’re still relevant in that they’re taking their following into that field and broadening hip-hop.”

Erick Sermon: “Hell yeah, the Beastie Boys are still relevant to hip-hop today! They are on of the few groups still keepin’ it real from way back. Even their new shit sounds like it used to be.”

Luniz’s Yukmouth: “Hell yeah, they are still bringin’ that shit! To everyday Black folk they’re probably looked at as rock-n-roll, and they probably wouldn’t buy their album, but they’re still rappin’ and still poppin’. They will always be pioneers.”

John Forte: “Oh, that’s ridiculous. The Beastie Boys are pioneers in the game. They went against the grain and proved that they were three white guys who really have an appreciation for hip-hop. They didn’t front like they was from the ghetto, they just came out and made good music. They’re still in a class by themselves.”

E-40: “The Beasties have always been ahead of their time. They’re real crafty with theirs. Their music has always come from a base of hip-hop. It’s a different kind of hip-hop, but it’s still influenced by the essence so it’s relevant.”

Wyclef Jean: “If you into hip-hop, you gotta love the Beastie Boys. They held it down with Run-DMC and they’re some talented musicians. They’re relevant for even what I do, pickin’ up a guitar and playin’ it. I heard like four joints from the new album and I’m feelin’ it. I’m a fan. They could do a horrible song and I’d still like it.”

Schoolly D: “The thing you gotta remember about hip-hop is if you go back to like Grandmaster Flash, Funky Four Plus One, those guys were in the studios with bands. The Beastie Boys came from a band, so they should be able to express hip-hop any way they want to.”

Xzibit: “The Beastie Boys are tight. They went away from where they began musically, so I wouldn’t consider them hip-hop artists now because they’re more alternative. They’re original, though, and hip-hop influences what they do.”

B-Real: “I definitely like the Beasties, always have. I think they can still appeal to everybody. I know a lot of hip-hop kids that like that record that I didn’t think would. When I heard it I was like, ‘Yo, they came with some shit.’”

DJ Premier: “I copped the new album but I haven’t heard it yet because we’ve been runnin’ around so much. I know they came out with punk music first before hip-hop, so I ain’t mad at them, ‘cause that was their style to begin with. I’m still into ‘em because I have a wide range of music that I like. I would love to work wit’ em. Word, I’d give ‘em an ill joint. Maybe that’ll happen some day.”

Flip Mode Squad’s Lord Have Mercy: “Anybody that comes and offers more freedom in the rap game is extremely important because not everybody is a player or a thug. If you are a real hip-hop fan, they got joints that’ll still bang you in the head, B.”

Funkmaster Flex: “I think they weren’t relevant for a minute. I think when they left Def Jam, people kinda started to think of them as not bein’ hip-hop ‘cause they were on another label; but sellin’ records like they’re doin’ now shows that hip-hop kids are buying it too. I listened to the new album and I think it’s their time again.”


---------------------------------------------------------------

I like the point in this thread that some (perhaps most) hip hop today sounds little like the Beastie Boys' material and that may provoke some people to think that the Beasties had little influence in hip hop overall. I think music enthusiasts who enjoy hip hop probably appreciate the Beasties contributions (past and current).

[Kid Presentable]

^^^^^^
Awesome Post! :cool:

[Junker]

Below is a list of some views about the Beasties circa 1998 (warning it is from a magazine that I would not even wipe my ass with).
---------------------------------------------------------------

What About the Beastie Boys: Do the White Boy Kings of Rap Still Matter?

The Source, 10.98

Words: John Gill

They raised hell with Run-DMC. Showed how creative the use of sampling can be. Demonstrated how live music has its place in hip-hop. And recently, they sold more records in one week than some rappers do their whole career.

With Ad Rock, MCA and Mike D enjoying phenomenal success with their current LP, Hello Nasty, we wondered about the Beastie Boys’ place in the rap world’s current state of affairs. So we posed the question to some of their peers: Are the Beastie Boys still relevant to today’s hip-hop audience?


Raekwon: “I like the Beastie Boys, them niggas is a-ight. They’ve been around for a minute with Run-DMC and all that; and I know they still know what’s going on in hip-hop too. They on point.”

Heltah Skeltah’s Ruck: “There’s room in hip-hop for that champagne poppin’, there’s room for the hardcore and there’s definitely room for the Beasties. We need variety in this shit. Plus Ad Rock’s my nigga.”

Ras Kass: “I think they moved on to a new genre. They’re incorporating alternative music; but they’re still relevant in that they’re taking their following into that field and broadening hip-hop.”

Erick Sermon: “Hell yeah, the Beastie Boys are still relevant to hip-hop today! They are on of the few groups still keepin’ it real from way back. Even their new shit sounds like it used to be.”

Luniz’s Yukmouth: “Hell yeah, they are still bringin’ that shit! To everyday Black folk they’re probably looked at as rock-n-roll, and they probably wouldn’t buy their album, but they’re still rappin’ and still poppin’. They will always be pioneers.”

John Forte: “Oh, that’s ridiculous. The Beastie Boys are pioneers in the game. They went against the grain and proved that they were three white guys who really have an appreciation for hip-hop. They didn’t front like they was from the ghetto, they just came out and made good music. They’re still in a class by themselves.”

E-40: “The Beasties have always been ahead of their time. They’re real crafty with theirs. Their music has always come from a base of hip-hop. It’s a different kind of hip-hop, but it’s still influenced by the essence so it’s relevant.”

Wyclef Jean: “If you into hip-hop, you gotta love the Beastie Boys. They held it down with Run-DMC and they’re some talented musicians. They’re relevant for even what I do, pickin’ up a guitar and playin’ it. I heard like four joints from the new album and I’m feelin’ it. I’m a fan. They could do a horrible song and I’d still like it.”

Schoolly D: “The thing you gotta remember about hip-hop is if you go back to like Grandmaster Flash, Funky Four Plus One, those guys were in the studios with bands. The Beastie Boys came from a band, so they should be able to express hip-hop any way they want to.”

Xzibit: “The Beastie Boys are tight. They went away from where they began musically, so I wouldn’t consider them hip-hop artists now because they’re more alternative. They’re original, though, and hip-hop influences what they do.”

B-Real: “I definitely like the Beasties, always have. I think they can still appeal to everybody. I know a lot of hip-hop kids that like that record that I didn’t think would. When I heard it I was like, ‘Yo, they came with some shit.’”

DJ Premier: “I copped the new album but I haven’t heard it yet because we’ve been runnin’ around so much. I know they came out with punk music first before hip-hop, so I ain’t mad at them, ‘cause that was their style to begin with. I’m still into ‘em because I have a wide range of music that I like. I would love to work wit’ em. Word, I’d give ‘em an ill joint. Maybe that’ll happen some day.”

Flip Mode Squad’s Lord Have Mercy: “Anybody that comes and offers more freedom in the rap game is extremely important because not everybody is a player or a thug. If you are a real hip-hop fan, they got joints that’ll still bang you in the head, B.”

Funkmaster Flex: “I think they weren’t relevant for a minute. I think when they left Def Jam, people kinda started to think of them as not bein’ hip-hop ‘cause they were on another label; but sellin’ records like they’re doin’ now shows that hip-hop kids are buying it too. I listened to the new album and I think it’s their time again.”


---------------------------------------------------------------

I like the point in this thread that some (perhaps most) hip hop today sounds little like the Beastie Boys' material and that may provoke some people to think that the Beasties had little influence in hip hop overall. I think music enthusiasts who enjoy hip hop probably appreciate the Beasties contributions (past and current).

I think the things are all clear now, right folks??

[intergalactic]

Who needs props from those guys to declare them important to hip-hop they all suck

[Kid Presentable]

Who needs props from those guys to declare them important to hip-hop they all suck


You're an idiot..

[Weezman]

You're an idiot..


ooOOOOOHHH!!!!! :eek: Bust out the Neo-Sporan!!!

[cosmo105]

i have that article pinned to my wall in my old room.

[sam i am]

What a gret post above. Get the primary sources and list them and what they say. Don't worry about what you think, just what those who actually DO IT think. :rolleyes:

No matter what, the Beasties make music and rap lyrics that make me move and sing / rap along to every song. I still play Paul's Boutique almost every day in my car while I'm driving around working. The best part is, you can grow up from 17 to 35 and still LOVE their stuff. It hasn't lost any flavor and I still enjoy it. (!)

BTW, how can you not love :

Sam I am
Down with the program
Green eggs and ham
Yosemite Sam :confused:

[Weezman]

What a gret post above.

BTW, how can you not love :

Sam I am
Down with the program
Green eggs and ham
Yosemite Sam :confused:

Pulled over to the river to take a rest
Pulled out a pair of pliers and pulled the bullet out of my chest

[wavin_goodbye]

a lot of those guys called the boys "good niggas" or something to that effect ... :D

[muchbeastielove]

if any of u guys have AOL then add SmarterChil to ur buddy list and type in "info on beastie boys" its kinda gives a brief discription on what they progressed. :D

[sheesh]

If you think the Beastie's weren't influential then you must have been born last year. Were they original pioneers? No. But that doesn't mean that they haven't been a huge influence on the hip hop scene.

[Weezman]

I think there is a difference between the group being important to hip hop and influencing other people or musicians. I personally think they did both. They are important to not only hip hop but to all genres because they made it to where other musicians can do a variety of music instead of just one style if that makes sense. Not only that, but they opened the gate for white people to be rappers. Also, I agree that they definatly helped bring hip hop to the main stream. After they achieved that, with the album Paul's Botique which was at first not commercially successful, they brought hip hop and funk together and used many samples which made the best hip hop album which is now described as a head of it's time, and indeed it is. The Beastie Boys music has definatly influenced and motivated a lot of people (me :D ), maybe not a lot of musicains which I'm not sure of but I'm sure they had a little bit of an effect on the ones who listened to them. In the end it's all about the music.


Take a BOW!! Well said Chicka B!!! (y) :D

[Chicka B]

Take a BOW!! Well said Chicka B!!! (y) :D

Thanks!!! I was trying to sound intellegent did it work? :cool:

[Weezman]

Thanks!!! I was trying to sound intellegent did it work? :cool:


Yess!! Very Impressive....you know your stuff ...... 4 a teenager (no offense).

You know more than most posers on this MB. :D

[sam i am]

staring down the barrell
of a gun
son of a gun
son of a bitch
gettin paid
gettin rich

<<<plus>>>

So i grabbed the piano player
and I punched him in the face
Piano player's out
the music stopped
the boy had (I don't remember the word : is it "D's?")
and he got dropped

GREAT STUFF :p

[Chicka B]

the boy had (I don't remember the word : is it "D's?")


beef

[sam i am]

really? ok,thanks..... sounds weird....

[JasonP]

Hip Hop broke out in the 80's. They had the biggest selling hip hop album of the 80's. They must have influenced someone.

[Chicka B]

really? ok,thanks..... sounds weird....

Yeah I thought it did too. I was like "what, he had a hamburger?" but then I went to here (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beef). That was before I was really into hip hop and didn't know those terms. :D

[sam i am]

Got it now. It would have been better if they said "a beef." Maybe that is the lyric.

Shit, what do I know? I thought it was "d's" for years!

It makes sense now. Thanks. :o

[lionelcrush]

the beastie boys started sampling so basically you can say that everything else in hip hop came from their techniques .. they used zepplin . johnny cash . pink floyd. the beatles . and so on and so on limp and kid rock made it sound really shitty because there no way near as cool as the b boys .. there from the fuckin village and brooklyn .. they actually know whats up there sooo nice and anyone who dosent think so dosent know shit !!!! i love the beatles so much cuz of what they did for rock and the b boys did the same .. i def put them up with the beatles

[like2_drink]

anyone who can get me to dance while i'm not drunk, i'm proud of.

believe me, it's a short list

[MarkedCube]

Beastie Boys are behind Tupac in total hip hop albums sold. If that is not saying something.

[Weezman]

Beastie Boys are behind Tupac in total hip hop albums sold. If that is not saying something.


Is that a specific album? or total albums from each artist?

Maybe if the Beasties (were to kick the bucket) their sales would increase even MORE?? Or is that irrelivant??

LONG LIVE BEASTIES!!!!! :D

[cj hood]

the beasties are currently the only pipeline to old school hiphop....they did shows with jimmy spicer, kurtis blow, fat boys, whodini, llcoolj, run dmc, utfo.....it's amazing......even when i have a criticism of what they're up to now......i just think about the latter and i'm in awe....

[JohnnyChavello]

Guys, please stop saying that the Beastie Boys started sampling. Sampling and hip hop go hand in hand and the one has been around since the other. The very first hip hop records released were sample records (Personality Jock and Rapper's Delight). Paul's Boutique was very influential in terms of the density and layering and sheer number and diversity of its samples. But two points can be made here: 1) at the very least, the sound of that record was the result of an artistic collaboration with the Dust Brothers, and 2) De La Soul released 3 Feet High and Rising, which had a similar sampling aesthetic, just before Paul's was released. Prince Paul was on that tip at the same time.

[Bobtwi]

Anyone who second guesses the Beasties importance in the rap game is seriously uneducated in the history of rap/hip hop.They are pioneers.While they might not get their due props from todays hip hop community,they deffinatly get it from the old schoolers.BTW....Who gave them their life time achievement award at the VMA's a few years ago?Chuck D!Much respect do!

[beastieluver85]

personaly I can not agree or disagree I think the best way to solve this is ask a certain amount of old school and new school M.C.s who inspired them.Sort of like a pole.Some people I know the Beasties inspired are Eminem,Beck,and as you all know 3rd bass would not have happened if the whole Def Jam war with the Beasties have not happened.Sometimes it only takes on song to influence a generation.Besides were still talking about them now over 20 years later.




Genra Free.

[skipidygirl88]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.


WHAT THE HELEN OF TROY IS THAT?
DID I HEAR YOU SAY MY RHYMES IS WACK?!?!?!

[wrongwayandugg]

the fans always think the beastie boys were so influential and that every mc or hiphop group gives the beastie boys lots of props and they paved the way for them etc

well i dont really think thats the case. the beastie boys probably inspired limp bizkit and kid rock but thats it probably. i mean kanye west or eminem might mention the beastie boys but thats only because they had this one "fun song" in '86 that doesn't even really qualify as hiphop and because of the fact that they were white which was a difference. but i doubt that method man or nas or whoever was really inspired by the beastie boys to start rapping.

Please.

Then why did DJ Quik re-do the beat for 3 Minute Rule for his song Trust No Bitch with Eazy E? Or how about Dre sampling Beastie Boys in every other old school NWA track? :rolleyes:

[Darko]

I don't really know how much of an impact they've made on hip-hop, but I still think Paul's Boutique is one of the best albums of all time, regardless of it's genre, and I think they've made a big impact on music in general.

[wrongwayandugg]

I think they've made a big impact on music in general.


yeah, they sure did make an impact in the music world - and especially hip-hop.

let's not forget Redman's rendition of Paul Revere. Or the fact that Scratch of the Roots used to put it as one of his vocal samples in his set.

And how about some of Ice T's early tracks?

[wrongwayandugg]

and "MMMMMMMMM-JEEEROP" has been cut, scratched and sampled by soooo many Deejays. It's almost weak to hear people use it anymore.

[Elusive]

the beastie boys open doors musically for the untrained ear... and do the best job possible.
they ride the line between pop and independant music.
if not for them, I would not appreciate music as much.

they are phsycedelic, and you can do any drug and vibe to them, more or less.
yes, drugs are a big part of their sound...

to deny this is just wrong.

beasties do whatever they want musically well, but they tend to excell in hip hop.

but... also remember, they had help (big help) from
rick rubin, dust brrothers (who produced mmm bop, among other songs)
and mario c, hurricane, biz markie, money mark.... not to mention all the various guest players they had.

most of this thread is stupid.
and not like that.

broad statements like this (the one that started the thread) just go in circles.

[cAm]

yeah, sorry to tell you, but Kayne and Em really dont got shit on the Beasties.

what you talkin´about?
Kayne West is a big fan of the Beasties!!

[BoggleKing]

The Beasties were one of the first hip hop artists to start their own labels so you have to respect that. As for them, being "overestimated", who cares who they influenced and who they didn't? I think one of the main point is that they have been around in the hip hop and music scene and actually producing albums for the past 20 years.. some rappers only last 5 years top and then fizzle.. They have progressed, changed and tweaked their styles and incorporated a lot of different genres and people into their music. Hip hop only "officially" started in the 1979's in Harlem and they have stuck with it through and through. Check out the notes... www.templeofhiphop.org

[scotty_ticks]

why would you even post that. you must not be a true fan of the beasties then. yeah not everyone infulences everyone, but if it wasn't for the beasties there would not be half of those rappers or rock bands out there. i don't think any true fans of the beasties overestimate the imporatnce of they had on music.

[Weezman]

why would you even post that. you must not be a true fan of the beasties then. yeah not everyone infulences everyone, but if it wasn't for the beasties there would not be half of those rappers or rock bands out there. i don't think any true fans of the beasties overestimate the imporatnce of they had on music.


(y)

may i add that it is not just there music, but there attitude and art of tackling the hip-hop beast and making it there own at such a VERY early time in HIP-HOP.

They have influenced alot of MC's/Rockbands to not nessesarily duplicate the Beastie-Boys sound or style, but broadin there horizons and hold no boundries, no restrictions in HIP-HOP. Now there are not the ONLY ones that have experiemnted with different styles and variations of HIP-HOP, but they were one of the FIRST, and still are here today, still influencing.

Im 190% positive that you ask ANY MC today.....he/she will say that they started rapping because of a previous rapper in the day....and i BET you that that previous rapper that there talking about...either PUMPED:
RUN-DMC, the BEASTIE BOYS, LL COOL J, KURTIS BLOW, FAT BOYS, KRS ONE, MC SHAN....or ALL of THEM!!!

So...yeah!! Its not only important.........its a bloodline that keeps HIP-HOP going.....respect, aknowledgement, and ya DONT STOP!!

- WEEZMAN :cool:

[Funkyfreshgrape]

It's wierd because they are rock countdown but are not on the hip hop countdown on mtv2.

I think mtv doesn't think the beasties are a hip hop band.
(which is stupid!) :mad:

[wrongwayandugg]

fuk i know my shit.

[Funkyfreshgrape]

this is a old thread!(y) :D :eek:

[wrongwayandugg]

this is a old thread!(y) :D :eek:

It suuuuuuuuuuuure is. (y) ;)

This is a classic thread where I shut some motherfuckers up quickly. If I had a dick, punks could get off it now.

[Lex Diamonds]

Thats an interesting point there really isnt anything out there in hip-hop that really resembles their work, but they are still one of, if not thee most prominent faces in hip-hop so who cares- most other hip-hop sucks anywhoo :rolleyes:
I appreciate how the Beastie Boys can help people enjoy hip hop who previously did not but I don't appreciate idiots like this thinking they are the only good hip hop group, just because they are white and easy to get into.

[wrongwayandugg]

das word, pads.

[DirtyPete]

Influencing those bands is nothing to be proud of.

Cypress Hill whatever i could care less but you can't be knockin Rage Against the Machine. They put out some great albums and played with a passion an intensity that few bands do.
Plus don't you remember Rage and the Boys were going to co-headline a tour?

[ggirlballa]

jay-z has said before that he grew up to the beastie boys & that they were an influence