a SOAD theory

[Tzar]

if you listen to 'self-titled' through to Mezmerize, you can hear Daron moving from a back-up vocalist to almost a lead vocalist (this happens from toxicity to mez.)

i know he's been the song writer for all of the albums but do you think....i hate to say it, he's kinda getting jealous of Serj?

the frontman always gets recognised first and Serj is seen for his random-yet-effective-yet-fucking awesome lyrics. do you's reckon Daron thinks he aint getting enough props for the song writing so he's decided to voice himself more to get noticed??

i dunno... it's just weird hearing songs from 'self-titled' then listening to Mezmerize. i like Serj's voice by its self? but having said that, Daron sings some good songs (lost in hollywood = (y)).

[voltanapricot]

I've actually been thinking about this too. It kinda makes me feel wierd to think when I'm listening to 'Mezmerize' that Serj isn't the lead anymore. Not so much anyway.

It's not as though the lyrics were co-written, it's all Daron (apart from 'Question!' I think)?

Do you not mean that Serj would be getting jealous of Daron? I think you might have meant that the other way round but I have read somewhere that Daron's been through hard times and "appreciated" the band giving him a chance to channel feelings through taking lead lyrics wise.

I think it was progressing all along. Daron is a star, too.

[ToucanSpam]

I have always thought that Daron was an equal contributor to songs as far as voice goes. I did notice he wrote pretty much everything on Mezmerize, and I think your theory is pretty good, Tzar. (y)

[dave790]

i was thinking the same thing, although lets not fuck around...serj in terms of a vocalist is far more superior! i agree darans vocals on say, lost in hollywood, are good and maybe right for the song, but serj could do just as a good job if not better.

it's cool though, i mean i'd still say serj probably has the majority of the vocals, especially if you ignore daran's harmonies on serj's vocals (which have always been there anyway).

good band (y)

[Tzar]

I've actually been thinking about this too. It kinda makes me feel wierd to think when I'm listening to 'Mezmerize' that Serj isn't the lead anymore. Not so much anyway.

It's not as though the lyrics were co-written, it's all Daron (apart from 'Question!' I think)?

Do you not mean that Serj would be getting jealous of Daron? I think you might have meant that the other way round but I have read somewhere that Daron's been through hard times and "appreciated" the band giving him a chance to channel feelings through taking lead lyrics wise.

I think it was progressing all along. Daron is a star, too.

yeah true.
i don't doubt Daron as a star.
but yeah, i'm one of those firm believers of the singer/frontman should always write 80-100% of the album's lyrics cause, end of the day, that's what they do on stage - spit the vocals.

if the singer/frontman doesn't write the lyrics, then what point is he/she? they're 'whored' because they have a nice voice, ya know. "here, we wrote some lyrics - you sound best - you sing"

i know SOAD aren't like that, but Serj writes some truely beautiful stuff. you compare his stuff to "my dick is much bigger than yours" ??? doesn't sound like the same band ??

i dunno.. i base all that on my Metallica side. James wrote pretty much ALL the lyrics up till St Anger. it was hard for him and for fans to accept cause everyone else (lars, kirk, bob) wrote lyrics and might a reason why....bluntly, St Anger sucked compared to TBA or MOP.

but back to SOAD, nah i ain't complaining too much. just as long as they don't have a blue about lyrics and frontman-ness, it's all good. just wanted to know what people thought

[ToucanSpam]

I had this theory that Mezmerize is Daron's album full of things he wrote, and Hypnotize is Serj's.....is it possible?

[Tzar]

I had this theory that Mezmerize is Daron's album full of things he wrote, and Hypnotize is Serj's.....is it possible?

(!)
maybe, maybe.
i totally forgot about Hypnotize just then.
we'll see.
man - now i can't wait for that sun'va'bitch to come out! :D

[voltanapricot]

I agree, I never really touched upon what I really thought about lyrics/vocalist relationship.

True, a vocalist should be more about the lyrics, if you're singing from your gut, you should be singing about from your own heart and mind too right? I think 'Mezmerize' is an alright record, but I've gone off it a bit since I thought more about Serj being "whored" as you put it so eloquently. ;)

I wonder if 'Hypnotise' is going to be similar in terms of construction? I'd like to hear a bit more of Serj's own stuff again, as I also agree that he was a better lyricist.

Edit: Weren't the two records done at the same time? I thought 'Hypnotise' was the extension of the current release, not leftovers or owt.

[Tzar]

well they say they wrote 30-odd songs and decided that all of them on one album would a bit too much.

so they just divided the albums (in an unknown order/reason).

[ToucanSpam]

I am pumped for the nest one. I've already listened to Mezmerize too much, so I went back and listened to everything old again...good times. (y)

[Tzar]

i've checked out a few songs from Trivium.
yeah they do sound a lot like early Metallica (MOP especially).

i'm not a fan of screaming though. i read a review somewhere saying "the singing is good and there isn't need for screaming". i agree.

they seem pretty young compared to other metal bands. i think the singer is screaming to prove they are metal. :D

but yeah, i'll see if i can find their albums at my store; if i can't find. i won't be worried.