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beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:05 PM
if the girl you want to marry says that she wants a Tiffany .5 Carat Platinum ring and that's ALL she will accept (and it costs $5000), yet when you say you cannot afford it (and can't) yet she holds to it anyway...

why would you still want to marry her? :/

her priorities are obviously a TAD out of whack there. Damn.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:05 PM
I'd settle for 2 carats

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:08 PM
I don't even know what carats in regards to diamonds MEANS.

I just want white gold (I don't like the color of regular gold) and some kind of diamond. It can be small. Whatever. I don't really care that much.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:10 PM
Hm. I think that's ridiculous.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:11 PM
it is! my friend asked me if he was being a jerk by telling her he cannot afford it right now. I was like "are you crazy? NO you aren't being a jerk!"

Oh yeah, it also has to be from Tiffany's :rolleyes:

Jesus. Some women.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:11 PM
the tiffany site has a section where they have all the definitions of diamond lingo. . .check it out.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:12 PM
alrighty.

I am curious enough I guess. There is crazyness abound though with this chick.

monkey
07-27-2005, 02:12 PM
i would ask why she only wants half a carat...

if you're gonna go for tiffany diamonds, go for at least a carat!


but, if i was a dude that didnt have the money, i would want my girl to understand that. maybe in the future, she could have the ring of her dreams, but now, cant she settle for a ring pop?

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:13 PM
it makes my physically sick to hear stuff like this actually exists.

kll
07-27-2005, 02:13 PM
if the girl you want to marry says that she wants a Tiffany .5 Carat Platinum ring and that's ALL she will accept (and it costs $5000), yet when you say you cannot afford it (and can't) yet she holds to it anyway...

why would you still want to marry her? :/

her priorities are obviously a TAD out of whack there. Damn.
but, she's only asking for a 1/2 carat

kll
07-27-2005, 02:14 PM
it is! my friend asked me if he was being a jerk by telling her he cannot afford it right now. I was like "are you crazy? NO you aren't being a jerk!"

Oh yeah, it also has to be from Tiffany's :rolleyes:

Jesus. Some women.

tell him to buy some shit from one of the malls and then put it in a Tiffany's box... then have him tell her it was from an estate sale and the Tiffany's emblem had rubbed off... that's pure class...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:15 PM
but, she's only asking for a 1/2 carat
5000 dollars.

Hagatha, that is a lot of money for one ring.

kll
07-27-2005, 02:15 PM
5000 dollars.

Hagatha, that is a lot of money for one ring.

nope.

ms.peachy
07-27-2005, 02:16 PM
Yeah, what kind of rinng a guy gets you is WAY more important than whether or not he's a good person with whom you want to share your life. She should really hold out. If he doesn't cave in to her demands, he's clearly a loser.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:16 PM
nope.
Could you justify that response?

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:16 PM
5000 dollars.

Hagatha, that is a lot of money for one ring.

that's nothing. . .he better dig deeper in that pocket of his.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:17 PM
that's nothing. . .he better dig deeper in that pocket of his.
You are going to be alone for a very long time with that attitude.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:18 PM
You are going to be alone for a very long time with that attitude.

I'd rather be alone than have 1/2 carat diamond

kll
07-27-2005, 02:18 PM
Could you justify that response?
my engagement ring was $7500. $5000 is the norm.

monkey
07-27-2005, 02:19 PM
I'd rather be alone than have 1/2 carat diamond


hahahhahahahaahahhahahahahha. i love that attitude. just wait till you fall in love with a brokeass dude...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:19 PM
my engagement ring was $7500. $5000 is the norm.
Jesus Christ I'm going to be poor forever.

kll
07-27-2005, 02:20 PM
Jesus Christ I'm going to be poor forever.
start saving NOW!

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:20 PM
what's that rule about a man's salary and how much he should spend on a ring? Or is that also on the Tiffany's website and I missed it.

kll
07-27-2005, 02:21 PM
what's that rule about a man's salary and how much he should spend on a ring? Or is that also on the Tiffany's website and I missed it.
3 months salary, dear...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:21 PM
start saving NOW!
save what? The money I cant use from my job because I have to pay tuition?


I'M BROKE BITCH! :(

kll
07-27-2005, 02:21 PM
hahahhahahahaahahhahahahahha. i love that attitude. just wait till you fall in love with a brokeass dude...
totally my situation now! :o

kll
07-27-2005, 02:22 PM
save what? The money I cant use from my job because I have to pay tuition?


I'M BROKE BITCH! :(

priorities...
:D

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:22 PM
3 months salary, dear...

I am slacking. Thanks.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:23 PM
tell him to buy some shit from one of the malls and then put it in a Tiffany's box... then have him tell her it was from an estate sale and the Tiffany's emblem had rubbed off... that's pure class...

ahahaha!

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:23 PM
You wanna hear a funny story? I promise it's good.

kll
07-27-2005, 02:24 PM
better yet - she deserves the box with nothing in it...

cosmo105
07-27-2005, 02:28 PM
i honestly don't care what the rock is like. DDD said it best - nothing says "i love you" like a rock mined by an 8-year-old in Zimbabwe (or something along those lines). i'd be happy with a pretty antique ring. besides, i'd be so afraid of losing it - i'm really unlucky and clumsy when it comes to losing expensive things, that i wouldn't trust myself one bit.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:33 PM
Ok, so I had this friend, who, in Grade 12, proposed to his 15 year old girlfriend by putting a bag over her head and taking her to some lookout point and removing the bag then proposing. He was bragging about this for months and months, boasting he had bought a $400 dollar ring for her!

He's still with her, it's been about a year and a half now. Their wedding is in 2007. I think he's a moron now because he is so pussy whipped its not funny. He once spent 4 hours trying to get a grocery store in PEI where she was staying (for the night) to make her a cake that says I love you, as well as travelling to Quebec to meet with her while she was on a 10 day vacation, only to have his ass kicked in a bar when he got too frisky with someone else.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:34 PM
how was she able to breath with a bag over her head?

Freebasser
07-27-2005, 02:35 PM
This "friend" isn't you is it?

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:35 PM
how was she able to breath with a bag over her head?
good question. He's an ass.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:36 PM
good question. He's an ass.

was it paper or plastic? Or one of those little cloth ones from Trader Joes / Whole Foods?

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:36 PM
This "friend" isn't you is it?
No Freebie, it's not.

It's YOU.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:37 PM
was it paper or plastic? Or one of those little cloth ones from Trader Joes / Whole Foods?
Sobey's I think.

The equivalent of um Piggly Wiggly in the States.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:38 PM
Sobey's I think.

The equivalent of um Piggly Wiggly in the States.

um. Piggly Wiggly is so Driving Miss Daisy. . . they are only in hick towns.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:39 PM
um. Piggly Wiggly is so Driving Miss Daisy. . . they are only in hick towns.
Ok whatever, insert grocery store name here.

Jerk.

Lindsey_1535
07-27-2005, 02:39 PM
IGA is better.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:40 PM
IGA is better.
You shut your mouth. :mad:

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:40 PM
Ok whatever, insert grocery store name here.

Jerk.

bags over heads is not romatic.

enree erzweglle
07-27-2005, 02:40 PM
If I wanted a ring, I would
. forget about the cost:salary ratio
. get the one I wanted and the one that I could afford without borrowing
. pay for it myself

I'd just do what feels right--which, in my case, would mean having no ring at all.

I hate to put stuff on me like that.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:41 PM
bags over heads is not romatic.
really? Honestly, I'm so glad you told me this. Thanks, you really are a true American Hero. Really. Thanks.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:41 PM
i honestly don't care what the rock is like. DDD said it best - nothing says "i love you" like a rock mined by an 8-year-old in Zimbabwe (or something along those lines).

werd.

cosmo105
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
really? Honestly, I'm so glad you told me this. Thanks, you really are a true American Hero. Really. Thanks.
you're REALLY bad at sarcasm.

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
I remember when I was like barely 19 I was dirt poor living in a studio apartment working two jobs I still managed to save like $600 towards my girlfriend's ring...shit now I hafta pay 3 months salary??!! ugh

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
really? Honestly, I'm so glad you told me this. Thanks, you really are a true American Hero. Really. Thanks.

*pinches Tucan's Cheecks*

Freebasser
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
you're REALLY bad at sarcasm.

I know you are, but what am I?

cosmo105
07-27-2005, 02:44 PM
swallowing a large sausage, last i read. how was it, btw?

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:44 PM
you're REALLY bad at sarcasm.
You are an idiot. And you aren't worth the oxygen you waste.

cosmo105
07-27-2005, 02:44 PM
actually, i respire it, and exhale carbon dioxide, which is really good for plants.

Freebasser
07-27-2005, 02:45 PM
swallowing a large sausage, last i read. how was it, btw?

Delicious. I got the gravy all over my face.

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:45 PM
Get lost.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:46 PM
Delicious. I got the gravy all over my face.

what kind of gravy. . brown or red? If you say brown you die.

Freebasser
07-27-2005, 02:46 PM
yellow

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:46 PM
yellow

oh THAT kind of gravy.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 02:47 PM
shit now I hafta pay 3 months salary??!! ugh

well you don't have to. Unless you want to marry a shallow girl with fucked up priorities.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:49 PM
well you don't have to. Unless you want to marry a shallow girl with fucked up priorities.


*raises hand*

j/k


or am I?

skinnybutphat
07-27-2005, 02:49 PM
I'd settle for 2 carats


She said .5. My wife's lying ass said she would have accepted a ring from a gumball machine. 5K for a half carat is way too much. Fuck Tiffany, I have a guy on Wabash that could hook up a half carat VS1, E for around 2,500.

cuckyposs
07-27-2005, 02:51 PM
It's actually two months salary according to "custom". but Kll's a modern grrl and drives a hard bargain...

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 02:51 PM
well you don't have to. Unless you want to marry a shallow girl with fucked up priorities.


Nah I don't really consider it shallow I'm gonna make sure my future wife has a very respectable rock on her finger for sure.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:51 PM
She said .5. My wife's lying ass said she would have accepted a ring from a gumball machine. 5K for a half carat is way too much. Fuck Tiffany, I have a guy on Wabash that could hook up a half carat VS1, E for around 2,500.

Jewerly row is a F*ing deal. . . hook a sista up with your man.

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:52 PM
Nah I don't really consider it shallow I'm gonna make sure my future wife has a very respectable rock on her finger for sure.

I <3 U

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 02:52 PM
So what's a good number to spend?

skinnybutphat
07-27-2005, 02:54 PM
My guy supplies Urlacher with the rocks for all his hussies.

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 02:56 PM
I <3 U


enough to send me some booty pics??

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 02:59 PM
enough to send me some booty pics??

No, not that much.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 03:00 PM
Nah I don't really consider it shallow I'm gonna make sure my future wife has a very respectable rock on her finger for sure.

shallow if she will NOT marry you unless she gets that exact ring, is what I mean.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 03:01 PM
*raises hand*

j/k


or am I?

if you would not marry someone simply because the ring is not up to par, and that would be the only reason you say no... then yes. That's pretty lame.

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 03:01 PM
shallow if she will NOT marry you unless she gets that exact ring, is what I mean.


Well duh, but I don't really see that being an issue. Most women would happily marry me for one of thos twist ties that keeps the bread closed...

CiaoBellaXO
07-27-2005, 03:02 PM
if you would not marry someone simply because the ring is not up to par, and that would be the only reason you say no... then yes. That's pretty lame.


well if I get a nice ring then I know all my other gifts will be good.

Dude I am SO kidding.

ms.peachy
07-27-2005, 03:03 PM
me n mr.peachy got married with rings we made out of paper clips we begged off off of the courthouse secretary and some gum wrappers I found in my purse five minutes before the ceremony.

cosmo105
07-27-2005, 03:04 PM
that's too cute.

afronaut
07-27-2005, 03:04 PM
The woman I marry is getting a ring from a cereal box. Or maybe a photograph of a proper wedding ring.



Or maybe tinfoil I shaped into a ring.

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 03:05 PM
Dude I am SO kidding.

I'm glad to know you are :D Otherwise I'd shake you by the shoulders and tell you how you are a pretty girl, be pretty on the inside tooooo!

ms.peachy
07-27-2005, 03:05 PM
that's too cute.
yeah I know. We're kinda sickening.

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 03:06 PM
I'm glad to know you are :D Otherwise I'd shake you by the shoulders and tell you how you are a pretty girl, be pretty on the inside tooooo!


I remember when you did that to me.....ah yes good times

Bob
07-27-2005, 03:08 PM
I remember when you did that to me.....ah yes good times

nice

i know how i'm going to propose. i'm going to put the ring in a cracker jack box with a connect the dots puzzle that spells out "will you marry me?" and below that i'm going to have another one that says "yes", just to be on the safe side.

now all i need is a woman

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 03:10 PM
I remember when you did that to me.....ah yes good times

yeah, but wear that slinky red dress next time alright sugar ;)

cuckyposs
07-27-2005, 03:10 PM
This old navy dude whose lawn I used to mow as a teenager made his and his wife's wedding rings out of two silver dollars (back when they were really made of silver) that he pounded round the edges with a hammer on his ship in WWII and then drilled out the middles on a drill press, they looked perfect, rounded, like any (white) wedding band on the outside, but inside you could see the ridges from where he drilled. He etched something on the inside too, I forget what.
I thought that was pretty bad ass, decades later he was still proud of it and she still thought it was sweet.

Loppfessor
07-27-2005, 03:15 PM
yeah, but wear that slinky red dress next time alright sugar ;)


Of course I gotta show my legs off now thanks to that thigh-master you got me last x-mass...


PS Bob you're quite the romantic. I don't want to come up with a "plan" for proposing yet cus I want it to be like suited to that particular girl.

miss soul fire
07-27-2005, 04:39 PM
I still don't get this American thing (maybe not just American) about engagement rings. Why do they have to be so expensive? Also, do the guy get one too? Does he wear anything at all to show he's engaged?

Here, the engagement ring is the same as the marriage ring, except the former you put in your right hand and the latter in your left hand. So much more economic.

If I ever married an American guy and he got me an expensive engagement ring (especially that one that blinds you with shiness(sp)) I would seriously punch his face and ask "CAN I SELL IT TO BUY SOMETHING USEFUL???"

This really pisses me off. :mad:

kll
07-27-2005, 04:50 PM
this is for those of you who think that size or quality doesn't matter... that a ring out of a gumball machine would suffice...


you want to explode - tell the entire world that YOU are getting married. the first thing anyone does is grab your hand to look at your "rock"...


those of you that are not materialistic will soon become so when you see the look of pity, disappointment and the very quiet "oh"... when they see your plastic gumball ring...


you think you don't or won't care, but you will...




getting engaged turns you into something you are not at the moment.. why else would there be shows like "Bridezillas".. do you think these women would have found these men if they acted like that all the time? hell no.

miss soul fire
07-27-2005, 04:54 PM
Still disgusting to me though. :p

I'm not saying I'm not materialistic at all, but I don't like to link money with marriage. Not in that way though.

It's just so girly and old-fashioned. "LOOK AT MY RING!"

Although I know a lot of materialistic girls when it comes to chose a partner they never care to show their engagement ring. That's all.

The End.

kll
07-27-2005, 04:54 PM
Still disgusting to me though. :p

I'm not saying I'm not materialistic at all, but I don't like to link money with marriage. Not in that way though.

It's just so girly and old-fashioned. "LOOK AT MY RING!"

Although I know a lot of materialistic girls when it comes to chose a partner they never care to show their engagement ring. That's all.

The End.
another reason why we are all "dirty americans"

miss soul fire
07-27-2005, 04:58 PM
another reason why we are all "dirty americans"
Hmmm...not really...all cultures have their dirty things. :p

That ring thing always pissed me off. I even started a thread about it a few years ago.

Yeah yeah...

Bitchamachacha
07-27-2005, 05:00 PM
I'd sleep with her then slap her with a rock. An old rock from under a bush outside. Well, if I were an angry man, at least.

Echewta
07-27-2005, 05:07 PM
I have my wedding ring still. What the heck do you do with something like that? :confused: :(

kll
07-27-2005, 05:08 PM
I have my wedding ring still. What the heck do you do with something like that? :confused: :(
have it made into a pendant

Echewta
07-27-2005, 05:10 PM
It would clash with the one I already wear.

Bitchamachacha
07-27-2005, 05:10 PM
I have my wedding ring still. What the heck do you do with something like that? :confused: :(

I have my wedding and engagement ring. That's a damned good question, though I don't want to part with them.

kll
07-27-2005, 05:11 PM
I have my wedding and engagement ring. That's a damned good question, though I don't want to part with them.
have them made into other pieces of jewelry or a neutral ring that you can wear on your other hand...

OR


hold on to them in case you need to pawn them one day...

abcdefz
07-27-2005, 05:12 PM
The ring is a symbol of the union, right? Why do people want to keep the ring if they've divorced?

Bitchamachacha
07-27-2005, 05:14 PM
I like the other jewelry idea. You can't get crap pawning things, at least not where I live. I may give it to Aiedyn when he gets older. I think it would be very special to him.

Echewta
07-27-2005, 05:16 PM
The ring is a symbol of the union, right? Why do people want to keep the ring if they've divorced?
Because it was given/received during the best of times in my relationship. I don't see it as representing the bad or the ending. But then again, there is no longer a purpose for it. But mine is unique and the only ring I've ever liked and worn. *shrug*

kll
07-27-2005, 05:20 PM
I like the other jewelry idea. You can't get crap pawning things, at least not where I live. I may give it to Aiedyn when he gets older. I think it would be very special to him.


That's a nice idea... He'll probably appreciate not having to save THREE months salary...

I inherited my grandmother's wedding ring and diamond engagement rings... I was able to get 2 rings out of them because there were so many diamonds... it only cost about $1000 to have both made and it's awesome...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 05:22 PM
That's a nice idea... He'll probably appreciate not having to save THREE months salary...

I inherited my grandmother's wedding ring and diamond engagement rings... I was able to get 2 rings out of them because there were so many diamonds... it only cost about $1000 to have both made and it's awesome...

$1000?

Is that what rings cost back in your day?

Documad
07-27-2005, 05:25 PM
That two months salary thing is a load of crap made up by de beers (sp?) -- the people with the worldwide monopoly on diamonds.

I'd rather have a super fun honeymoon or a downpayment on a house.

Of course, I hate big weddings too. :rolleyes:

kll
07-27-2005, 05:46 PM
$1000?

Is that what rings cost back in your day?


haha.. nice try... the $1000 is what it cost to have the ring MADE after I already owned the diamonds... see? The worth of the ring or what it would've cost me to purchase it would've been another story...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 05:57 PM
haha.. nice try... the $1000 is what it cost to have the ring MADE after I already owned the diamonds...


...........clever girl.....

kll
07-27-2005, 06:00 PM
...........clever girl.....
:eek:


you said GIRL!

RobMoney
07-27-2005, 06:25 PM
this is for those of you who think that size or quality doesn't matter... that a ring out of a gumball machine would suffice...


you want to explode - tell the entire world that YOU are getting married. the first thing anyone does is grab your hand to look at your "rock"...


those of you that are not materialistic will soon become so when you see the look of pity, disappointment and the very quiet "oh"... when they see your plastic gumball ring...


you think you don't or won't care, but you will...


Nice "friends" you have there.


.....and ONLY three months salary huh? Why sell yourself short, why not go for six months?

That is the reason more and more guys are refusing to marry. Not to mention divorce and women taking guys for every penny they can squeeze out of us.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:30 PM
Nice "friends" you have there.


.....and ONLY three months salary huh? Why sell yourself short, why not go for six months?

That is the reason more and more guys are refusing to marry. Not to mention divorce and women taking guys for every penny they can squeeze out of us.


It doesn't have to be just friends who grab your hand... pretty much any setting where you are telling anyone you are engaged, someone grabs your hand...

If the guy wants to spend six months salary, then that's his deal... maybe in your divorce, your ex squeezed every penny out of you, but in mine, I got shit... and my trustfund husband and his family kept every dime...

If a guy is refusing to marry based on his reluctance to buy a ring, then I would guess there's other issues there...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 06:32 PM
If a guy is refusing to marry based on his reluctance to buy a ring, then I would guess there's other issues there...
I agree. Thinking about it, if three months salary is what she wants, hey, life's too short to bitch about money.

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:35 PM
why do men traditionally have to spend so much money on women for the most pointless shit. why do women want silly rings that cost so much. why do women want a dozen roses for 100 dollars. i don't mind spending money a women i love but why do you females charish such piontless shit? how about i spend three grand on new wide screen tv and let you have utter controll over it. yes that's right. you can watch whatever the hell you want to watch on it whenever the hell you want. and you can kick me off of it whenever you please. i could even pay off the years car insurance for you. how does that sound? oh wait, you can't really show that off to your friends and your mother. that's why you would rather have the ring or some stupid flowers that die in a few days. i would even rather buy you 3 grand in underwear than a stupid ring. THAT'S RIGHT FUCKN' UNDERWEAR.

zorra_chiflada
07-27-2005, 06:38 PM
i want a puppy instead of an engagement ring. i'm totally serious. i'm not gonna put it around my finger or anything.

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:38 PM
now that's cool

adam_f
07-27-2005, 06:39 PM
No way I would pay for a ring like that. I'm not Kobe.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:39 PM
I agree. Thinking about it, if three months salary is what she wants, hey, life's too short to bitch about money.

Also, most guys are planning the engagement for months, if not a year or more in advance... and there are payment plans... it's not like you fork out all that money out of three paychecks in a row...

Back to this thread though - this girl is ONLY thinking of the ring and probably what her dress will look like and is not taking the seriousness and the amazing bond you create when you do marry seriously and probably should not get married at this point in time...

If a girl expresses her taste, which doesn't always have to be a diamond... many girls prefer bands, different stones, etc... I would hope the guy is listening and attempts to get her what she wants... this is something that she has to wear every day for (hopefully) the rest of her life... if she says she wants a princess cut, then don't buy her a marquis...

And if you are too cheap of a guy that you don't want your girl to have what she dreams about or to watch her lovingly as she proudly displays her ring to anyone and everyone, then you suck...

kll
07-27-2005, 06:41 PM
why do men traditionally have to spend so much money on women for the most pointless shit. why do women want silly rings that cost so much. why do women want a dozen roses for 100 dollars. i don't mind spending money a women i love but why do you females charish such piontless shit? how about i spend three grand on new wide screen tv and let you have utter controll over it. yes that's right. you can watch whatever the hell you want to watch on it whenever the hell you want. and you can kick me off of it whenever you please. i could even pay off the years car insurance for you. how does that sound? oh wait, you can't really show that off to your friends and your mother. that's why you would rather have the ring or some stupid flowers that die in a few days. i would even rather buy you 3 grand in underwear than a stupid ring. THAT'S RIGHT FUCKN' UNDERWEAR.

and this is why you are so ready to get married...

ToucanSpam
07-27-2005, 06:41 PM
Hagatha, you are a well of info. Merci.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:43 PM
Hagatha, you are a well of info. Merci.


No problem, Alberto.

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:43 PM
and this is why you are so ready to get married...


that is an insult

kll
07-27-2005, 06:43 PM
that is an insult
haha. i know...


and Zorra... that's awesome!!!

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:44 PM
you know what? i wouldn't mind getting a puppy myself

kll
07-27-2005, 06:45 PM
you know what? i wouldn't mind getting a puppy myself


and that is why you are so ready to get a puppy...

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:46 PM
nah, i would terrorise the poor thing

RobMoney
07-27-2005, 06:46 PM
It doesn't have to be just friends who grab your hand... pretty much any setting where you are telling anyone you are engaged, someone grabs your hand...

If the guy wants to spend six months salary, then that's his deal... maybe in your divorce, your ex squeezed every penny out of you, but in mine, I got shit... and my trustfund husband and his family kept every dime...

If a guy is refusing to marry based on his reluctance to buy a ring, then I would guess there's other issues there...


Reluctance to buy a ring, and reluctance to buy a ring because of it's price tag are two different things. Five grand on a half carrat is just not a good value. I could spend half the money and get twice the weight.

Anyone who looked down on someone because their engagement ring wasn't large enough has "other issues" as well.

....and for the record, I'm not divorced yet, but I do have custody of my kids and recieve nothing in support.

zorra_chiflada
07-27-2005, 06:48 PM
you know what? i wouldn't mind getting a puppy myself

yeah, you should. get a mix-breed from the pound and give it a cool name and play with it lots.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Reluctance to buy a ring, and reluctance to buy a ring because of it's price tag are two different things. Five grand on a half carrat is just not a good value. I could spend half the money and get twice the weight.

Anyone who looked down on someone because their engagement ring wasn't large enough has "other issues" as well.

....and for the record, I'm not divorced yet, but I do have custody of my kids and recieve nothing in support.
I totally agree.

I am not supporting the idea of this girl wanting a .5 carat that HAS to be from Tiffany's... not at all...

Women are catty... not everyone is going to look down on someone for their ring, but there are always those who will... if it's not the size that is not right, it's the cut, the design, whatever... that's the nature of the beast...

kll
07-27-2005, 06:52 PM
yeah, you should. get a mix-breed from the pound and give it a cool name and play with it lots.
yeah, like a pugle

TurdBerglar
07-27-2005, 06:52 PM
fuck that. that's way too small.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:53 PM
fuck that. that's way too small.

<3

Lindsey_1535
07-27-2005, 06:54 PM
Get a ROTTI!!

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 06:55 PM
Anyone who looked down on someone because their engagement ring wasn't large enough has "other issues" as well.

Exactly. I could care less what anyone says or thinks about whatever ring I may get. It's those kinds of people I stay far away from in the first place.

p.s. I can see the point being made about a guy giving a girl what she wants, kll. But sometimes the women are just far too demanding about it. It's when it gets ridiculous that it is so irritating.

kll
07-27-2005, 06:56 PM
Exactly. I could care less what anyone says or thinks about whatever ring I may get. It's those kinds of people I stay far away from in the first place.

p.s. I can see the point being made about a guy giving a girl what she wants, kll. But sometimes the women are just far too demanding about it. It's when it gets ridiculous that it is so irritating.


I know. I already posted that part above. I said she's not ready to get married if those are her conditions.

Back to this thread though - this girl is ONLY thinking of the ring and probably what her dress will look like and is not taking the seriousness and the amazing bond you create when you do marry seriously and probably should not get married at this point in time...

beastieangel01
07-27-2005, 06:57 PM
oop. I skipped posts :o don't mind me.

monkey
07-27-2005, 08:48 PM
i had a really pretty ring that i hated to wear and i never wanted to show off.
the ring was gorgeous.

ehh... sometimes, it aint the ring that counts.

SobaViolence
07-27-2005, 08:52 PM
me and my good friend discussed this once, and he made the good point of saying that it's society who places value on diamonds and such and also place value on possessing those rocks. what matters? the girl's ego? bragging rights? vanity, in thinking she's special because of a stone on her finger?

you're either in love the guy and don't care what anyone thinks, or you're kidding yourself and are a vain, materialistic bitch.

i laughed.

he then suggessted getting his long time girlfriend a ring in asphalt, and see her reaction. (y)

Rich Cheney
07-27-2005, 09:07 PM
A man in love would build an empire to marry the girl he loves.
If someone can't scrap up 5G's he's still a boy.

QueenAdrock
07-28-2005, 12:09 AM
is Mervis Diamonds a DC thing, or is that national? I have no idea.

But yeah, Wayne knew the guy's kids, they went to his school. Ronnie Mervis, Jr. or something. He said they came to class wearing pinkie rings with rocks the size of golfballs. CLASS.

I agree with Cosmo, I would be extremely uncomfortable to have an expensive ring, because I lose shit all the time. I think the most amount of money I could ever have on my hand is $500, which I guess is a shit ring according to most people. :-/

I don't care though. I'd like a pretty ring, I don't really care about the quality/quantity/clarity or any of that crap. Just something pretty.

Medellia
07-28-2005, 01:20 AM
Hey I want an engagement ring. Just not an expensive one. And certainly not a diamond, I've already got diamonds that I don't wear. Maybe a shapphire or an opal.

PS-there was a thread similar to this one around Christmas. It disappeared in the Great Purge though. :(

zorra_chiflada
07-28-2005, 01:25 AM
haha how about a 5 dollar mood ring as an engagement ring?

Medellia
07-28-2005, 01:26 AM
haha how about a 5 dollar mood ring as an engagement ring?
Only if the band is adjustable.

zorra_chiflada
07-28-2005, 01:27 AM
Only if the band is adjustable.

do you have fat fingers?

Medellia
07-28-2005, 01:31 AM
do you have fat fingers?
No, but the adjustable band ups the cheese factor of it. And if I'm not gonna get a nice ring, I want a cheesy one. (y)

Loppfessor
07-28-2005, 01:31 AM
Hey I want an engagement ring. Just not an expensive one. And certainly not a diamond, I've already got diamonds that I don't wear. Maybe a shapphire or an opal.

PS-there was a thread similar to this one around Christmas. It disappeared in the Great Purge though. :(



Okay I might just be dumb but what is the difference between an engagement ring and a wedding ring? I mean that both don't hafta be that expensive do they?

Medellia
07-28-2005, 01:39 AM
Okay I might just be dumb but what is the difference between an engagement ring and a wedding ring? I mean that both don't hafta be that expensive do they?
The engagement ring is the one you give her when you ask her to marry you. The wedding ring is the one you give her at the wedding. The wedding ring is usally less fancy (a plain band, as opposed to a huge rock). Of course, there are some women who want their wedding ring to have as many sparkling gems on it as possible (blech). Really it all depends on personal taste. Some prefer really expensive rings, some don't. But I think the wedding band is usually less expensive.

Loppfessor
07-28-2005, 01:43 AM
So wait you just add the wedding ring to the engagement ring at the wedding??

TurdBerglar
07-28-2005, 01:43 AM
they're just pointless things you give to woman to make them like you better

Medellia
07-28-2005, 01:57 AM
So wait you just add the wedding ring to the engagement ring at the wedding??
No, I think she just quits wearing the engagement ring. I don't know anyone that still wears theirs after the wedding. Of course, my mom's was stolen, so maybe that's the only reason she doesn't wear her's. *shrugs*

Loppfessor
07-28-2005, 02:11 AM
No, I think she just quits wearing the engagement ring. I don't know anyone that still wears theirs after the wedding. Of course, my mom's was stolen, so maybe that's the only reason she doesn't wear her's. *shrugs*


WTF?? So I"m supposed to drop all that money on an engagement ring that she's only going to wear until we're married??!! Fuck that shit man...I swear I"ve heard of those ones that like hook together or something

iceygirl
07-28-2005, 05:54 AM
the markup on diamonds is insane

robmoney was right, 1/2 carat for 5 g's is nuts, you are simply paying for the blue box

i think its funny that we are a society now that has entirely strayed from the norm of traditions, but the standard of 3 months of a mans salary for a ring stuck. :)

louise
07-28-2005, 06:01 AM
if the girl you want to marry says that she wants a Tiffany .5 Carat Platinum ring and that's ALL she will accept (and it costs $5000), yet when you say you cannot afford it (and can't) yet she holds to it anyway...

why would you still want to marry her? :/

her priorities are obviously a TAD out of whack there. Damn.


^^ dump her !!


if money is what she wants : let her look for someone else that's stupid enuff to go for that !! love / marrie got nothing to do with a Tiffany .5 Carat Platinum ring !!!

enree erzweglle
07-28-2005, 06:43 AM
Ive been engaged before and had a shitball ring. It was a ring I would have never picked out. So i pretty much know whether or not i care about that, as I have been there. If there were looks of dissapointment, it wasnt because of the ring, it was because of the man I was engaged to. :\
When I was engaged I didn't want or have an engagement ring.
My friends knew that about me. They didn't ask to see it.

The people who did ask were people that I didn't know well. There were several who looked shocked when I showed them my naked hand but I expected that of them--they were the types who were envious of anyone who had anything that they had or that they wanted. Or they were the types who, if you chose to be outside of what they thought to be the norm, would feign horror and shock and would try to fold you back in, make you comply. Try to make you feel like something was wrong with you for not being particular ways.

I still know some of those women and they are still like that with me but it's over other things. It's pathetic.

It didn't stop with the engagement ring. It went to making comparisons and "Oh Really?!?"ing my plans for the wedding & honeymoon. Then it I'd get the "Oh Really?!?" when they'd ask about vacations, where we lived, our kid, the job my then-husband had, hairstyles, shoe styles, clothes, cars, etc etc etc ad nauseam.

If you could buy it, they'd pry about it with me and then they'd pretend to stifle laughs or make eyes faces at each other.

It took me a long time to realize that they were jealous.

I recognize that a lot more easily now although some people have gotten better at hiding what they're really feeling when they pry or just treat me in a certain way. Most of them try to mask it but they're really, really bad at it (although they think they're masters at it).

After several years, they stopped digging at me with questions. Maybe they got bored or maybe they were just slow learners. But aside of asking me for snacks at work and then snickering at what I offer them, they've all but skipped the questions and they pretty much just scoff now and take occasional pot shots or make digs at me. I can hear it when I walk or run by them while they're smoking or taking a break. They're still like that and it's still pathetic. I know it but I don't think they do.

iceygirl
07-28-2005, 06:52 AM
a piece of merchandise that retails for $5000 in my store, i can buy for $1000. that is diamonds, everything. yeah, i dont work for tiffany, but diamonds are incredibly overpriced. i saw a blurb on dateline or someshit couple days ago about the diamond biz and what a markup they have, especially the near perfect ones.

i about cried when i heard about blood diamonds and that whole thing.

monkey
07-28-2005, 09:52 AM
i told my ex that what i really wanted, in the future, was a really pretty emerald or sapphire. i think those colored stones are so much more worth the money, simply because of their beauty. but even if i had that, it jjust couldnt be big. im not a big-ring person.

my mom has a beautiful emerald ring (with matching earrings) that my dad gave her about 15 years ago. the charm of it is that it's so delicate. it's not a small stone, i would bet its about a carat, with side smaller side stones. but it's set in the most beautiful way and it looks so elegant and gorgeous. i think understated, beautiful jewelry that fits the person is much more meaningful than the "engagement ring" bullshit.

enree erzweglle
07-28-2005, 10:01 AM
^^^I have green eyes so every guy that I've ever dated has wanted to buy emeralds for me. One actually did and I wore them one time. I don't like jewelery. The guy I know right now--he gets that about me. hearts.

Documad
07-28-2005, 10:28 AM
No, but the adjustable band ups the cheese factor of it. And if I'm not gonna get a nice ring, I want a cheesy one. (y)
I lost my mood ring years ago. :(

I have a diamond ring with an adjustable band. A distant elderly cousin left it to me. A jeweler told me that old ladies do that because their knuckles get so big.

I don't like diamonds, but I bought a pearl ring with my first ever paycheck when I was 16 and I still wear it a lot.

wanton wench
07-28-2005, 10:47 AM
I have my wedding ring still. What the heck do you do with something like that? :confused: :(
i still have mine and i have on clue what to do with it!

hardnox71
07-28-2005, 10:54 AM
if the girl you want to marry says that she wants a Tiffany .5 Carat Platinum ring and that's ALL she will accept (and it costs $5000), yet when you say you cannot afford it (and can't) yet she holds to it anyway...

why would you still want to marry her? :/

her priorities are obviously a TAD out of whack there. Damn.
No. Not a chance in hell. I would just be grateful that this side of her came out before we were married.

Now that would be a real fucking mess, otherwise.

kll
07-28-2005, 10:58 AM
my mom has a beautiful emerald ring (with matching earrings) that my dad gave her about 15 years ago. the charm of it is that it's so delicate. it's not a small stone, i would bet its about a carat, with side smaller side stones. but it's set in the most beautiful way and it looks so elegant and gorgeous.

i think that sounds lovely...

wanton wench
07-28-2005, 11:07 AM
[QUOTE=Rich Cheney]A man in love would build an empire to marry the girl he loves.
QUOTE]
ya so fuck the ring a MAN needs to show a women he loves her in some other way. a ring is an easy out in my opinion.

kll
07-28-2005, 11:49 AM
yup, I know lots of girls like that.........
My best friend told me since she was 12 she was going to marry rich......
Some women just set out to do that in life....want nothing less.
She is now married to the Sebastian heir, and not a happy girl.
Money cant buy you love.

For a second, I got excited because I thought of Paul Mitchell (instead of Sebastian)... I went to school with his son and I was excited to hear that he had gotten married, but then I realized wrong company...

kll
07-28-2005, 12:37 PM
^^^ My ex-boyfriend from long ago was his booger sugar dealer, small world.
Paul Mitchell's or Angus?

kll
07-28-2005, 12:42 PM
small world indeed.

Echewta
07-28-2005, 01:04 PM
I've used Paul Mitchell products and my family did the chocolates for his wedding :confused:

Dr Deaf
07-28-2005, 01:14 PM
beth didn't want an engagement ring at all. i completely insisted for a lot of the reasons kll mentioned. i was worried that she'd be all a flutter at work and the girls would want to have a look and there'd be nothing to see. an uncomfortable explanation by beth stating we decided to shun a 100+ years of tradition would essentially make me look like a hump, when / if i met these ladies.

...but besides all that -- it's the first and last time i plan on proposing and she is fully and completely worth it. it's not about the ring to me as much as it's about the journey to NYC and back to get it. the ring symbolizes my dedication and devotion to her. to go to any lengths necessary to have and hold her forever and ever. plus nyc is a wicked ill town that i had attempted to visit on at least 5 occasions previous. it took something as meaningful and powerful as securing the ring to make the trek a reality.

kll
07-28-2005, 01:34 PM
beth didn't want an engagement ring at all. i completely insisted for a lot of the reasons kll mentioned. i was worried that she'd be all a flutter at work and the girls would want to have a look and there'd be nothing to see. an uncomfortable explanation by beth stating we decided to shun a 100+ years of tradition would essentially make me look like a hump, when / if i met these ladies.

...but besides all that -- it's the first and last time i plan on proposing and she is fully and completely worth it. it's not about the ring to me as much as it's about the journey to NYC and back to get it. the ring symbolizes my dedication and devotion to her. to go to any lengths necessary to have and hold her forever and ever. plus nyc is a wicked ill town that i had attempted to visit on at least 5 occasions previous. it took something as meaningful and powerful as securing the ring to make the trek a reality.

very nice story, b...

i have always thought that the girl thinks of what her wedding will be like one day while the guy thinks of how he will propose...

for the guys who don't think about this shit or couldn't be bothered, then they either haven't met the right girl or are not ready to get married... i think it's awesome when a guy goes out of his way to plan and scheme how he is going to surprise the woman he loves...

kll
07-28-2005, 01:35 PM
I've used Paul Mitchell products and my family did the chocolates for his wedding :confused:
my goodness. the world is suffocatingly (is that a word?) small now...

cuckyposs
07-28-2005, 01:41 PM
beth didn't want an engagement ring at all. i completely insisted for a lot of the reasons kll mentioned. i was worried that she'd be all a flutter at work and the girls would want to have a look and there'd be nothing to see. an uncomfortable explanation by beth stating we decided to shun a 100+ years of tradition would essentially make me look like a hump, when / if i met these ladies.

...but besides all that -- it's the first and last time i plan on proposing and she is fully and completely worth it. it's not about the ring to me as much as it's about the journey to NYC and back to get it. the ring symbolizes my dedication and devotion to her. to go to any lengths necessary to have and hold her forever and ever. plus nyc is a wicked ill town that i had attempted to visit on at least 5 occasions previous. it took something as meaningful and powerful as securing the ring to make the trek a reality.

Maybe your first dance should be "I'm Sticking With You" by the Velvets for a little New York theme.

-By the way, crazy congrats to the two of you! You two got together while I was not coming around. It blew my mind when I saw what had gone down in my absence. Shucks, it's all so dern cute...

Echewta
07-28-2005, 01:43 PM
Deaf is a kool kat.

HEIRESS
07-28-2005, 02:09 PM
Ill take a nice jade thumb ring KTHANX

Freebasser
07-28-2005, 02:28 PM
Your boyfriend is called KTHANX?

What is he? A Christian radio station?

adam_f
07-28-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Freebasser
Your boyfriend is called KTHANX?

What is he? A radio station?

I bet they play all the hits from George Michael.

Freebasser
07-28-2005, 02:31 PM
It took you all that time to reply?

I edited my post about 10 minutes ago and now you look stupid :(

RobMoney
07-28-2005, 03:18 PM
Jade is not a man's name.