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adam_f
07-29-2005, 08:44 AM
I know there are plot holes and continuity errors and implausibilties galore in Deep Blue Sea, but at least you get to see the fucking sharks. I watched Jaws again last night, having not seen it since I was a little kid. Even then it wasn't scary, back in the day. I mean, UH OH, this teenage girl just bobbed up in down in the water? Is it Bruce the Shark? Holy cow, she's gonna die? Did not see that coming.
The part in Deep Blue Sea where Samuel L. Jackson gets eaten, that's a true shock. He's giving the Knute Rockne type speech, then BAM, shit happens. That's a good scare. Stellan Skarsgard, that was a good scare. Jaws just makes me bored. I can ignore all the implausibilities, because it's a well made movie with well placed thrills.
I know I'm gonna get my ass whupped by someone on here.
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 09:05 AM
allow me to take a swing.
you are fucking nutz...
do you enjoy TRL too, for it's fast pace and witty banter?
sorry, cheapshot...
but man....some of the best horror movies ever created scare you more with what you DON'T see rather then force feeding you gore.
the mind will always conjure something up worse....
Think about the cultural impact:
When Jaws came out...there had never been any well made horror movie like it, save a few select horror pieces like psycho and rosemary's baby.
it captivated a nation, and terrirfied them unlike anything since War of the Worlds on the radio.
People never gave a shit about sharks....there was no general social fear of them since we rarely come in contact with them.
but this movie was so well made and struck such a primative, psychological chord...people nation wide were terrified of beaches...terrified of thier swimming pools.
it forced the public to, for the first time, really question what was under those waves...and could it hurt us?
the movie itself was superb in it suspense building, character development, and general theme.
Deep Blue was a pathetic, CGI homage piece....
TurdBerglar
07-29-2005, 09:32 AM
is that the movie with ll cool j?
enree erzweglle
07-29-2005, 09:39 AM
The part in Deep Blue Sea where Samuel L. Jackson gets eaten, that's a true shock.
From the Chappelle show:
Jackson walks up to the businessman
Samuel Jackson: *shouts* How's it taste, motherfucker?
Businessman: Could you please stop yelling at me?
Samuel Jackson: *shouts* No, I can't stop yelling, 'cause that's how I talk! Haven't you seen my movies? "Juice." That was a good one! "Deep Blue Sea." They ate me! A motherfucking shark ate me! Drink up, bitch!
enree erzweglle
07-29-2005, 09:50 AM
I saw Jaws when it first came out. My sister and I went. I was 11. She was 15.
We didn't know what the movie was about. We hadn't heard any of the hype about it. We just went to the theater to waste time.
Afterwards, a film crew tried to stop my sister to get her opinion about the movie, but she was dazed and walked right past them and into a bank. She got herself stuck in those velvet ropes they use for crowd control. She just wandered around in those ropes--back and forth & in and out. They filmed her doing that.
bigblu89
07-29-2005, 09:53 AM
Yeah, they don't make horror films like they used to.
Jaws was probably the last really good horror film.
Mr Films
07-29-2005, 10:24 AM
yeah, first- you're nuts
and second- pretty much every shark movie since 1975 owes its existence to JAWS
Echewta
07-29-2005, 10:26 AM
Jaws helped to inspire Jabberjaw. What did Deep Blue Sea spawn? Nothing. There you go.
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 10:41 AM
Wasn't everyone in Deep Blue Sea a scientist of some kind or a technitian who got him or herself into the situation by working with and around the sharks?
In Jaws, people were innocent beachgoers and fishermen and ordinary people who were victims, suggesting that the girl who dies in the beginning could have been you.
The point of Deep Blue Sea was to make a monster movie, to turn sharks needlessly more dangerous and to suggest that humans were at fault for messing with nature.
In Jaws, however, the suggestion was to remind us that we are just animals in a nature that is already brutal and dangerous without our meddling. So there was no lesson to be learned except BEWARE for you are a weak species at the mercy of earth's predators.
I think Deep Blue Sea was more of a jumpy loud crashing monster movie while Jaws was quieter and more psychological, not trying to create new hypothetical scary sci-fi situation so much as remind us of fears we already have.
beastieangel01
07-29-2005, 11:13 AM
DEEPEST
BLUEST
my head is LIKE A SHARKS FIN!
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 11:17 AM
In Jaws, however, the suggestion was to remind us that we are just animals in a nature that is already brutal and dangerous without our meddling. So there was no lesson to be learned except BEWARE for you are a weak species at the mercy of earth's predators.
I think Deep Blue Sea was more of a jumpy loud crashing monster movie while Jaws was quieter and more psychological, not trying to create new hypothetical scary sci-fi situation so much as remind us of fears we already have.
which is why it worked so much better.
avignon
07-29-2005, 11:19 AM
Jaws.
Eat that damn Kintner boy! You know he was the one karrate-ing all the picket fences. Eat 'im!
Anyway, I rented Raging Sharks the other day. I must say that this is the absolute worst movie ever made. Bar none. I watched it in fast forward mode just to see the shark attacks. They actually growled and roared like lions. The great whites did. Under water. Roared. And snarled. I was going to try to make some screen caps of it. It was that bad. I suggest you all rent it soon. Seriously. It's poop. You can't miss it.
adam_f
07-29-2005, 12:20 PM
I don't give a goddamn about the cultural signifigance of Jaws. If I want to be entertained by a movie about sharks, I want to see the goddamn sharks.
And every movie owes some debt to a movie of the past. The Godfather wouldn't have existed if not for movies starring Edward G. Robinson. Close Encounters wouldn't have existed without Ed Wood's cheesy sci fi movies. Any zombie movie owes it's life from Night of the Living Dead. Deep Blue Sea isn't the only movie that is built around a film of the past.
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 01:02 PM
They should have called it Smart Sharks.
Does anyone watch Sea Lab 2021? Tin Fins!
"Would you put your brain in a robot body?"
"No. I'd do something even better"
cosmo105
07-29-2005, 01:05 PM
DEEPEST
BLUEST
my head is LIKE A SHARKS FIN!
YES!!
i think he was saying hat, not head. remember how he had his cap turned around?
and the making of the video on MTV. haha. oh ll. why??
beastieangel01
07-29-2005, 01:07 PM
haha Nuzz, I saw that. I love Sealab.
YES!!
i think he was saying hat, not head. remember how he had his cap turned around?
and the making of the video on MTV. haha. oh ll. why??
Yeah, god knows why they bothered promoting that song. Hahaha.
adam_f
07-29-2005, 01:08 PM
I think they promoted because 13 year old boys like I was would eat it up, and did such.
beastieangel01
07-29-2005, 01:09 PM
they did?
I don't remember how old I was/what year that came out. Let's not talk about age though.
adam_f
07-29-2005, 01:12 PM
Depending on when it was released, I would've been twelve or thirteen. And yes, I have every LL album. Even the 7 that suck.
beastieangel01
07-29-2005, 01:22 PM
doin it and doin it and doin it wellllll
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 01:26 PM
I thought it was "doin' it wild"
I represent Queens she works out in Brooklyn
beastieangel01
07-29-2005, 01:28 PM
maybe it's wild. I always thought it was 'well.'
Who knows. I noticed that at that point, he was always eating some kind of fruit in his videos. :confused:
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 01:35 PM
I thought it was "doin' it wild"
I represent Queens she works out in Brooklyn
"doin it well" (as in sex)
"i represent Queens, she was raised up (out) in brooklyn"
99% sure.
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 01:46 PM
Good looking out, Q. I'm no help when it comes to song lyrics.
marsdaddy
07-29-2005, 02:28 PM
I thought this was an a-z thread. :confused:
Were there any black people in Jaws?
The early scene in Jaws when the leg floats to the bottom, sets the movie up really well.
Oh, and one of the Jaws sequels (4?) when whoever it was playing the Roy Schieder role beats on the cable to attrack the shark, which then explodes. I love it when the sharks' eyes pop out.
I didn't see Deep Blue Sea, but having LL (as BA01 misquoted "I'm Bad") is a stroke of genius casting.
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 02:35 PM
Oh, and one of the Jaws sequels (4?) when whoever it was playing the Roy Schieder role beats on the cable to attrack the shark, which then explodes. I love it when the sharks' eyes pop out. that was jaws 2, and that WAS roy schieder.
it didn't explode in jaws 2, it bit that cable (which was a power cable) and gets fried.
i think you're jumbling all of the movies together.
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 02:42 PM
There were black people in the second Jaws movie which was set in Jamaica.
"Oh da breff of dat fing!"
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 02:52 PM
There were black people in the second Jaws movie which was set in Jamaica.
"Oh da breff of dat fing!"
no, that was Jaws 4!
what's wrong with you people?!
marsdaddy
07-29-2005, 02:55 PM
that was jaws 2, and that WAS roy schieder.
it didn't explode in jaws 2, it bit that cable (which was a power cable) and gets fried.
i think you're jumbling all of the movies together.Is that the one where the mother shark comes after them because they killed her baby?
And which one was in 3D?
Do you have the Jaws movies catalogued?
Jaws 3 was the 3D one. 3 and 3, notice the connection.
Qdrop
07-29-2005, 03:25 PM
Is that the one where the mother shark comes after them because they killed her baby?
And which one was in 3D?
Do you have the Jaws movies catalogued?
for the love of god:
jaws 1 : the original, 3 guys on a boat. Quinn. "you wanna see a scar?"
"smile you son of a bitch!" (blows up shark with a rifle shot to the oxegan tank in the sharks mouth when it's in full charge).
jaws 2 : same beach, a few years later. all of the teen stranded on sailboats in the ocean. Schieder bangs on the electical cord, the shark bites it and gets electr-o-cuted.
jaws 3 -3D: many years later. scheider's sons are all grown up and helping run an aquarium. they catch a baby great white for captivity. the big mamma gets pissed and comes looking for it...gets into aquarium/amusement park. all hell breaks loose.
baby shark dies in captivity.
big mamma shark gets blown up, i believe.
Jaws 4: years later. Jamacia.
Scheider's character has died. the mom carries on the crusade.
a "jaws" has returned to hunt the bloodline of those that hunted his previous relatives.
one brother gets killed in the beginning.
the other brother and mother have to kill it at the end to stop it's rampage.
they shove a "shocking thingy" in it's mouth at one point to make it jump out of the water and roar when they shock it.
at the end, the mother shocks it and makes it jump out of the water while she drives the boats stern into the shark's gut...and spears it.
no more jaws.
Nuzzolese
07-29-2005, 03:47 PM
I thought there were only 2 and I just realized why. One night on TNT I think it was, they were showing the Jaws movies in a row but I thought there were only 2, So I sat down to watch them both but I fell alseep during the second one and I kept waking up to see different scenes from Jaws 2, 3 and 4, thinking I'd only nodded off for a few seconds and had awoken to the same movie, when really it was hours later and the sequels were on.
This is almost the same thing but sort of the opposite that happened the first time I watched Scarface when it was on TV; They were showing it 3 times in a row but I didn't know that and I kept falling asleep and waking up thinking it was still on the first and only showing of it. And this time I actually had the clock on the VCR working and not flashing 12:00 so I just thought, damn this is a long ass movie.
adam_f
07-29-2005, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Qdrop
"doin it well" (as in sex)
"i represent Queens, she was raised up (out) in brooklyn"
99% sure.
That's right. It's off the 'Mr. Smith' album, I believe.
marsdaddy
07-29-2005, 06:16 PM
no more jaws.Wait, didn't they make a Jaws 5? Where the sharks convinced whales to beach themselves, then, as people were in the water trying to help the whale, BLAMMO = feeding frenzy!
Documad
07-29-2005, 08:44 PM
that was jaws 2, and that WAS roy schieder.
it didn't explode in jaws 2, it bit that cable (which was a power cable) and gets fried.
Ha! You beat me to it.
Jaws 2 was my first lesson in the disappointing nature of sequels. It's the first true sequel I remember seeing and I was mighty disappointed.
I never saw Jaws 3 (3D) but I heard that in the one with Michael Caine (4?), the shark has a grudge against the mom from the first and second Jaws. How stupid is that. But wasn't that the plot of Orca?
Jaws is a wonderful movie because it's well written. Good action movies always have lots of quiet spots. The scene about the U.S.S. Indianapolis is one of the best scenes ever.
Like enree, I saw it in the theater. Shortly after that, I went to California for the first time to visit my cousins in San Diego. They planned all this cool beach stuff because it was my first time at the ocean. I wouldn't go in. At all. On the third day, they forced me. Some kelp touched my leg and I was sitting on the sand again. Because the movie taught me that sharks like shallow water.
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