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ericg
08-04-2005, 02:09 AM
I watched a very interesting conversation tonight with Charlie Rose regarding Biotech: Biology as an Information Technology... Reverse Engineering and reprogramming the system via genes... nanotechnology... Eventually, in other words, immortality. The scientific revolution is estimated to come of age in the next 15 years.


Ray Kurzweil, the guest at the forefront and author of, "Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough To Live Forever", as well as "The Singularity Is Near", was welcomed to the show as being being known as the next Edison. His website is here (fantastic-voyage.net/).


If you've been paying attention, you've probably heard of the recent discovery in gene research... the ability to shut certain "malignant" genes off, and proliferate others. If you caught PBS's show on this, the discovery was made in plants by a botanist.


In any case, it's not politics until you mention the faulty thinking, greed, and corruption ie... specifically relating to (Bush and Co.) the pharmaceutical companies. Cures for cancer, diabetes, aids etc... have all been within reach, and yet have not found their way into the mainstram circuit due to the fact that these companies would lose alot of money without stringing and weening people along with many drugs that don't really work well and cause worse side effects. I won't even get into stem cell research just yet.


So, with the lack of ethical/ moral, and spiritual intel at the government level, any new science would likely be exploited in the worst of ways even with the most progressive... minds around.


In any case, you get the transcripts and do the math...
www.pbs.org
www.charlierose.com



PS. Perhaps we'll find the gene that prescribes to ignoble traits...

Medellia
08-04-2005, 02:59 AM
But that has nothing to do with Coolio!

ericg
08-04-2005, 05:11 AM
www.scifi.com/sfw/issue92/classic.html
movies.channel.aol.com/movie/main.adp?_pgtyp=pdct&tab=main&mid=5766&date=20050804&uid=5532
www.firstscience.com/SITE/ARTICLES/Voyage.asp
www.foresight.org/Nanomedicine/Gallery/FanVoy/

Funkaloyd
08-04-2005, 06:34 AM
"Spiritual intel" is an oxymoron.

ericg
08-04-2005, 06:51 AM
There's no intelligence in your spirit?
Or you haven't any spirit for intelligence?

Ali
08-04-2005, 07:21 AM
Don't expect any major breakthroughs in our lifetimes, amigros. Genetic research has a loooooooong way to go before we can be anywhere near predicting what would happen over more than one or two generations, even if we did find a way of 'switching' off or on any genes.

ericg
08-04-2005, 08:55 AM
Despite the fact that we're living in a relatively degenerated and stagnant world, progress is still being made in certain circles. The "breakthroughs" have already happened. But for one reason or another, they're not really getting through to you.

Don't be a blood clot. Try reading the text. There are the links. Is your right click not functioning, or is it something else? Is it going to go over everybody's head here? In any case, the science will be consumated and be an actual eventuality in many current lifetimes.

It practically beats the lunar landing... any projects in outer space for that matter. Don't deny it because the world's reaction is confounded and practically non-existant... This is truly something to celebrate in all of human history. It's a world's dream coming true. Check it out!!!

yeahwho
08-04-2005, 09:41 AM
You know I was watching part of that Charlie Rose show last night too....but it comes on at 12:30 AM here and I had to get up today at "O" dark thirty so I went sleep.

I have a Tivo deal, I'll search it out. I was so fucking tired last night I couldn't grasp it or the show. :D

ericg
08-04-2005, 10:31 AM
Ever since the human genome project was "consumated" in 2003, I haven't known of any other advancements until recently. I've seen the episodes on PBS, but like Benign Energy, it was treated with a Ripley's Believe It Or Not mentality, with leanings toward the latter... like, here it is, but nothing's really being done about or for it at scale, and certainly not in a timely fashion.. due to a corrupt governments fucked mandates and agenda.

In last night's interview with Ray Kurzeil I began to realize the actual possibilities of the new biotechnological discoveries and how definitive, inspiring, and close at hand the direct affects are. It's a true thing of beauty in a cluttered, misguided world. Anyway, the Charlie Rose transcripts should be available today or tomorrow for those without tivo.

ericg
08-22-2005, 03:14 PM
Researchers Make Potential Breakthrough on Stem Cells (aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050822085309990002&ncid=NWS00010000000001)
Harvard scientists announced they've discovered a way to fuse adult skin cells with embryonic stem cells, a promising and dramatic breakthrough that could lead to the creation of useful stem cells without first having to create and destroy human embryos.

Members of the research team were to discuss their findings Monday. Preliminary results of the potentially groundbreaking research were disclosed Sunday on the Science Magazine web site (www.sciencemag.org).

The scientists said they were able to show in their early research that the fused cell "was reprogrammed to its embryonic state."
Cultivating Embryonic Stem Cells (cdn.digitalcity.com/newsinteractives/stemcells/stemcell.swf)

Funkaloyd
08-22-2005, 09:38 PM
Oh no, guys! Our vast leftist conspiracy to use science to justify the killing of babies is about to come to an end. How on Earth are we gonna get people to have abortions now?!

Documad
08-22-2005, 11:21 PM
Okay. Ever since this thread started, I keep thinking of the sci fi movie with Rachel Welch.

There. Now I've said it. :o

ericg
08-23-2005, 02:15 AM

D_Raay
08-23-2005, 02:49 AM
Oh no, guys! Our vast leftist conspiracy to use science to justify the killing of babies is about to come to an end. How on Earth are we gonna get people to have abortions now?!
Pass out doobies at all Abortion clinics...