View Full Version : Do you consider your cyberfriends your actual friends?
mickill
08-10-2005, 08:01 AM
Even if you've never met in person or talked on the phone.
synch
08-10-2005, 08:04 AM
Some, yes.
Qdrop
08-10-2005, 08:08 AM
no.
the best i could say is that some would have the *potential* to be friends... once i met them and got a vibe of thier "in-person" personality.
i would say there are quite a few people on here who fit that *potential* on here.
adam_f
08-10-2005, 08:17 AM
Some I do. If I figure we'd be friend in real life, I guess so. Never really thought of it.
yeah, pretty much. i mean, if someone tells a story on here that makes me laugh, sometimes i'll tell it to my real life friends, like "a funny thing happened to a friend of mine the other day". sure, why not?
Yes.
I don't see any difference between cyberfriends and penpals. Remember those?
synch
08-10-2005, 08:31 AM
What is this... pen... thing...?
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 08:31 AM
^ because it's a lie. They're not your friends.
I don't consider most to be my friends until we've talked on the phone a bunch and/or met and hung out. There are few exceptions, very few, under 4 exceptions.
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 08:37 AM
I like the term 'acquaintances'.
yeahwho
08-10-2005, 09:25 AM
I have the feeling I'd like 90% of the folks who post on here, likewise I think you would enjoy my goofy company, in fact be pleasantly surprised.
So yes, I'm sure we all have much in common. Actual friends do more than (y) :D ;) :o though. Even so I consider you all to be very nearby, more than you actually are.
Tough question mickill (by the way, I am not chubby)
JBernas
08-10-2005, 09:44 AM
Good question. I started coming here a lot more recently and it's weird how you feel like you get a feeling for someone's personality just from written word. Of course, they can say anything they want and you would never know if they were being phoney or not...but I guess anyone could do that in person as well. I wouldn't really consider it a FRIENDSHIP just from posting and PMing, but would consider it a camaraderie I guess.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 09:45 AM
Yes. But there must be only four.
And Mcmac is one of them.
TurdBerglar
08-10-2005, 09:52 AM
you're all just a big video game to me. sometimes, but very rarely, i'll actually think of you as people.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 09:56 AM
you're all just a big video game to me. sometimes, but very rarely, i'll actually think of you as people.
That's true, too.
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 10:09 AM
you're all just a big video game to me. sometimes, but very rarely, i'll actually think of you as people.
I think of everyone more as characters in a book.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 10:10 AM
I think of everyone more as characters in a book.
Some are just songs on a jukebox: they always come on.
If I have exchanged PM's, emails, IM's with someone whom I have never met in person, but we have shared personal information, not just bullshitting, I would consider them a friend.
The others are just cyberborgs...
Freebasser
08-10-2005, 10:12 AM
Does flamingo in sarin sauce count as friendship? :D
beastieangel01
08-10-2005, 10:14 AM
it depends on how long I've spoke to them, and if I've spoke to them in depth about life and such.
Does flamingo in sarin sauce count as friendship? :D
yes. especially since it involved drunken family members and saran wrap.
Freebasser
08-10-2005, 10:15 AM
*h5*
i guess it depends on what you consider to be a "friend". if you mean like a sam and frodo "don't you go where i can't follow" type thing, then no, you're all nothing to me, but why should it mean anything less just because we've never met in flesh and blood and sound? the basic idea of a friend is the same, it's just over a different medium. or something.
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 10:23 AM
i guess it depends on what you consider to be a "friend". if you mean like a sam and frodo "don't you go where i can't follow" type thing, then no, you're all nothing to me, but why should it mean anything less just because we've never met in flesh and blood and sound? the basic idea of a friend is the same, it's just over a different medium. or something.
For me, if I call someone "friend", there's an element of loyalty and a willingness to give of myself in a way that goes beyond that of an acquaintance. Someone I call friend can call me at 3 am if they need to, for example.
I don't want any of you people calling me at 3 am. Nothing personal, it's just, we ain't all that, you know?
For me, if I call someone "friend", there's an element of loyalty and a willingness to give of myself in a way that goes beyond that of an acquaintance.
Does sending money so a board member-in-need during a black time in life can get a new hairstyle, not expecting anything in return count?
And what about batteries for a board member in need?
Freebasser
08-10-2005, 10:28 AM
Yeah, and I didn't dispose of that body for nowt, you know?
Elusive
08-10-2005, 10:29 AM
no.
why?
I can't steal their spare change.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 10:32 AM
For me, if I call someone "friend", there's an element of loyalty and a willingness to give of myself in a way that goes beyond that of an acquaintance. Someone I call friend can call me at 3 am if they need to, for example.
I don't want any of you people calling me at 3 am. Nothing personal, it's just, we ain't all that, you know?
That's a relationship that you get something from. And that something is self-worth?
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 10:36 AM
No friendship is selfless, everyone gets something out of it and does friendy things to get something in return. It's not a bad thing, it's just how I see it as the truth. You're nice and they're nice and you share things and then as a result you feel like you are validated as a person and like you're not a loner loser and feel good about yourself.
adam_f
08-10-2005, 10:38 AM
Usually I only value the friendship if I know that they would kill the guy who would kill me if I ever did something that would warrant an hit on my life.
enree erzweglle
08-10-2005, 10:39 AM
Yes, but it's different. To me, online friendships are more
gradient; I ramp up or down differently online than
I do in real life. I'm much more cautious when I
develop friends online than I am with face-to-face
ones.
I don't share as readily online. I have agreements
with various friends and family members not to talk
about them; in some situations, I don't even talk
about what my relation is to that person. Just for
their privacy.
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 10:46 AM
That's a relationship that you get something from. And that something is self-worth?
Well I don't know about that. I mean maybe sure to an extent, but my self-worth I think comes more from the work I do and the way I am just in general in the world.
Let me try explaining it this way: to me, if a relationship has reached the level I would call friendship, there is a degree of trust and intimacy (in the non-sexual sense) there that is greater than that of someone I would call an acquaintance.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 10:54 AM
Well I don't know about that. I mean maybe sure to an extent, but my self-worth I think comes more from the work I do and the way I am just in general in the world.
Let me try explaining it this way: to me, if a relationship has reached the level I would call friendship, there is a degree of trust and intimacy (in the non-sexual sense) there that is greater than that of someone I would call an acquaintance.
Fair enough, but what about the co-dependancy? I hate that. I'm glad I don't pester anybody, and glad they don't pester me.
Yorkshire~Rose
08-10-2005, 11:05 AM
Most people on here i just consider cool people i chat online to now and then.
But there are a few (who i have chatted to on the phone and have meet ups planned with in the not so distant future) who i have grown very fond of so yeah...i consider them my close 'actual' friends. :)
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 11:05 AM
Fair enough, but what about the co-dependancy? I hate that. I'm glad I don't pester anybody, and glad they don't pester me.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'codependency' in this context. I had a quick look in the medical dictionary, which defined it as "a relational pattern in which a person attempts to derive a sense of purpose through relationships with others." Whilst I am sure that there are people who have little sense of themselves except in terms of how they relate to other people, that's a psychological disorder, not a definition of friendship.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 11:08 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by 'codependency' in this context. I had a quick look in the medical dictionary, which defined it as "a relational pattern in which a person attempts to derive a sense of purpose through relationships with others." Whilst I am sure that there are people who have little sense of themselves except in terms of how they relate to other people, that's a psychological disorder, not a definition of friendship.
I feel it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, personally.
ms.peachy
08-10-2005, 11:10 AM
I feel it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, personally.
:confused: What is?
Anyway, I gotta go buy some fish now. Laters.
HEIRESS
08-10-2005, 11:11 AM
I havent told mickill yet, but hes going to be my new best friend once I move down to the coast
fur rillz yo
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 11:17 AM
I havent told mickill yet, but hes going to be my new best friend once I move down to the coast
fur rillz yo
LUCKY! :mad: :cool:
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 11:59 AM
if i've talked at great length/in great depth with that person, over a long period of time, yeah, i'll usually think of said person as a friend. of course i have some that are closer than others. once an online friend was offended and hurt because i wasn't comfortable with her coming to a party of mine (no, it wasn't someone from here). i had never met her before, and though we had spoken before (even on the phone), i just wasn't quite comfortable with her showing up to a somewhat intimate affair with all my closest friends when i didn't know what she was really like yet. i figured that she wouldn't have a good time either. i didn't really invite her anyway, she sort of just asked if she could go, and i said, "erm, no." i felt bad about it but oh well.
another part of it would be that though i do consider some of them friends, my "online" friends are usually very different than my usual friends in terms of social group (or what have you) and maybe age. i'm rambling, aren't i? man, i'm sick of summer.
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 01:18 PM
if i've talked at great length/in great depth with that person, over a long period of time, yeah, i'll usually think of said person as a friend. of course i have some that are closer than others. once an online friend was offended and hurt because i wasn't comfortable with her coming to a party of mine (no, it wasn't someone from here). i had never met her before, and though we had spoken before (even on the phone), i just wasn't quite comfortable with her showing up to a somewhat intimate affair with all my closest friends when i didn't know what she was really like yet. i figured that she wouldn't have a good time either. i didn't really invite her anyway, she sort of just asked if she could go, and i said, "erm, no." i felt bad about it but oh well.
another part of it would be that though i do consider some of them friends, my "online" friends are usually very different than my usual friends in terms of social group (or what have you) and maybe age. i'm rambling, aren't i? man, i'm sick of summer.
blah blah blah you're my efriend cosmo, I mean, not really at all but you could be mine, but you're way out of line with your bitch slap rapping and your cocaine tongue you get nothing done. Guns N Roses rocks now hit my hand! h5
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 01:20 PM
don't walk away, Nuzz
my love won't hurt you (no)
don't walk away, Nuzz
i'll be right there for you
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Ohhh look we could communicate through song lyrics like as if we were in a Baz Luhrmann catastrophe.
I’ve seen all your eyes
And I’ve seen all your faces
Can you tell me honestly that you wanna be free?
Then look in my eyes
I’ve been lots of places
Can you tell me honestly that you’d want to be me
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 01:24 PM
ahaha! that's a pretty good description of his films. a good friend of mine (who was an e-friend but became an irl friend rofl) saw Moulin Rouge before i did and i asked him how it was...he said "i feel like i was just visually assaulted."
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 01:25 PM
ahaha! that's a pretty good description of his films. a good friend of mine (who was an e-friend but became an irl friend rofl) saw Moulin Rouge before i did and i asked him how it was...he said "i feel like i was just visually assaulted."
I couldn't finish it. I barely got half-way through it.
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 01:25 PM
yeah, even Ewan couldn't save that flick for me. mmm. Ewan.
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 01:28 PM
This is why I need cyber friends, because sometimes I start to wonder why no one around me agrees with me and I wonder if I'm the only one then experience delusions of exceptionality - get online clicky clicky clicky and sigh of relief I'm average.
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 01:30 PM
hah. i know what you mean.
i was going to say something about average and it made me think about "leverage" from Battlefield Earth and then i thought about how nuts Scientology is and how many hilarious stories Steger comes home with because he works for those crackpots.
Nuzzolese
08-10-2005, 01:37 PM
interesting. I know very little about this so-called "Steger", almost as little as I know about Scientology. I wish I could get on AIM during the day. I'm so much better in one-on-one chat form than public board form. heh, I almost typed pubic board form. ahhh, good old pubes.
cosmo105
08-10-2005, 01:40 PM
he's 6'3", from dirty Hotlanta, and has an addiction to capri sun.
pubes. heehee.
Anne Lauren
08-10-2005, 01:53 PM
No, not really because I don't really know anyone here. I mean, I've talked to a couple of people and met one person...but, I don't really know them as a person that well and they don't really know me that well. I'm fairly new to the whole socializeing over the internet thing anyway. I guess, I'm old school in how I met people. I try and take it with a grain of salt anyway. However, there seems to be some pretty cool people on here, though.
Ohhh look we could communicate through song lyrics like as if we were in a Baz Luhrmann catastrophe.
Don’t worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as
effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing
bubblegum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that
never crossed your worried mind; the kind that blindside you at 4pm
on some idle Tuesday.
DroppinScience
08-10-2005, 02:15 PM
There's some people who I'd regard as genuine friends online. Others are more acquaintance-like. While others I'd be very scared to shake their hand out of fear of where it's been. :eek:
abcdefz
08-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Even if you've never met in person or talked on the phone.
No, but I'd still like to hit you up for a dollar.
For some food.
CrankItUp!
08-10-2005, 04:44 PM
Mickill , I wanna apologize for all the ill mannered words that I've directed towards you - I'm really sorry dude ! I realize now that even at my age that I still need to grow up and just learn to ease off and be more mature for now on. Peace man. (y)
Dr Deaf
08-10-2005, 05:41 PM
Mickill , I wanna apologize for all the ill mannered words that I've directed towards you - I'm really sorry dude ! I realize now that even at my age that I still need to grow up and just learn to ease off and be more mature for now on. Peace man. (y)
wow. that rarely happens.
(!)Do you consider your cyberfriends your actual friends?
yes, an extention of my immediate friends and family circle, but not less significant. just because we haven't met, doesn't mean we won't.
Auton
08-10-2005, 09:04 PM
nah.
i only have two I consider friends.
GetYourWarOn
08-10-2005, 09:09 PM
i like you all better than the people i work with. i'm not sure what that makes you though.
GetYourWarOn
08-10-2005, 09:12 PM
you guys can over sometime and we'll grill up some steaks.
Kid Presentable
08-10-2005, 09:34 PM
I've been walking the streets at night, just trying to get it right. :rolleyes:
It's hard to see with so many around, and you know I don't like being stuck in the ground. (y)
tracky
08-10-2005, 10:12 PM
And the streets don't change
but maybe the name
I ain't got time for the game
'Cause I need you
Yeaheyeah well I need you
oooooh i need you
ohhhh this ti-iii-iiiime
i don't have any cyberfriends, but i don't really want any. people are random and any time i've actually sorta chatted to people, i never feel like i click with them. but then i don't really make a lot of (what I'd consider) friends in real life either
edit - well now that just looks stupid at the top of the page :( Someone ban someone, quick
zippo
08-11-2005, 12:02 AM
if you mean like a sam and frodo "don't you go where i can't follow" type thing
HAHA, total fkin 8.5/10
i consider them e-friends and/or "friends" but not friends, no. im one of those firm believers in sound, touch and smell. they can still be kickass awesome though, just through a different way.
HEIRESS
08-11-2005, 12:09 AM
truth be told, sometimes I like my e-friends better than my real life friends
mostly because e-friends cant ditch you, stand you up, leave you waiting in your front yard for an hour waiting for your late ass to show up, drink your last beer, leave said beer on the floor by the fridge instead of in the fridge, puke on your socks etc etc
mickill
08-11-2005, 12:50 AM
Mickill , I wanna apologize for all the ill mannered words that I've directed towards you - I'm really sorry dude ! I realize now that even at my age that I still need to grow up and just learn to ease off and be more mature for now on. Peace man. (y)
You better not be playing with my emotions. It's all good in the hood, gangstaaaaaa.
HEIRESS (my soon to be best friend) has a point. I do find a lot of cyberpeoples more interesting than my real life friends. Mostly because I don't really get to talk about the things I talk about on the board or via IM/PM with my friends or family. This is an outlet for all my apparent lameness. I consider a relatively small elite number of you my friends, but that doesn't mean I like any of you.
Mcmac
08-11-2005, 12:55 AM
Yes. But there must be only four.
And Mcmac is one of them.
:) :confused:
JBernas
08-11-2005, 07:09 AM
Don’t worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as
effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing
bubblegum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that
never crossed your worried mind; the kind that blindside you at 4pm
on some idle Tuesday.
Maybe you’ll marry, maybe you won’t, maybe you’ll have children, maybe you won’t, maybe you’ll divorce at 40, maybe you’ll dance the funky chicken on your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don’t congratulate yourself too much or berate yourself, either. Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else’s. Enjoy your body, use it every way you can. Don’t be afraid of it, or what other people think of it, it’s the greatest instrument you’ll ever own.
WillMac
08-11-2005, 07:26 AM
its all about the mystery.... cyber friends are like a glory hole without the sexual contact.
Loppfessor
08-11-2005, 07:32 AM
Umm some yeah I guess but I would really have to wait till we got to kick it in person. I have tried to hook that up with a couple of people from here so we'll see
Nuzzolese
08-11-2005, 08:55 AM
its all about the mystery.... cyber friends are like a glory hole without the sexual contact.
Right. We can talk when we feel like talking and the huge gap of space between us leaves it up to the individual to fill in all the missing spaces with whatever he or she wants to be there.
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