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QueenAdrock
08-24-2005, 07:07 PM
Yup, right here in the U.S.A. We've become such greedy pigs for gas, we'd rather kill someone than pay.

sigh (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9050231/)

Documad
08-24-2005, 07:57 PM
I might have to resort to crime. I have to drive to Chicago next month and at $43 a tank, it's going to be painful. :rolleyes:

QueenAdrock
08-24-2005, 08:08 PM
I'm driving to Chicago this weekend. 1,400 miles and 46 gallons, so umm...$121 for gas. (n)

Medellia
08-24-2005, 09:33 PM
I might have to resort to crime. I have to drive to Chicago next month and at $43 a tank, it's going to be painful. :rolleyes:
Heh, I'm going next month too hopefully. Glad I'm not paying for that trip. $43, good god.

ChrisLove
08-25-2005, 12:55 AM
I'm driving to Chicago this weekend. 1,400 miles and 46 gallons, so umm...$121 for gas. (n)


Speaking as a Brit - that seems fantastically cheap for fuel! We havnt paid those sorts of prices since about 1992. But then if we tried to go 1400 miles in any direction we would end up in the sea so I guess it doesnt matter. ;)

Tone Capone
08-25-2005, 01:23 AM
Yup, right here in the U.S.A. We've become such greedy pigs for gas, we'd rather kill someone than pay.

sigh (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9050231/)

That's kinda misleading. You make it sound like dude was going "Alright, I'm gonna get some gas and then kill the guy so I don't have to pay" when what happened is the dude was trying to STEAL gas and accidentally killed the guy.

It's pretty sad though :(

D_Raay
08-25-2005, 03:33 AM
Speaking as a Brit - that seems fantastically cheap for fuel! We havnt paid those sorts of prices since about 1992. But then if we tried to go 1400 miles in any direction we would end up in the sea so I guess it doesnt matter. ;)
Well not long ago we were paying 1.80 a gallon. Hell I remember not so long ago .99 a gallon and I'm not quite grey of hair yet.

A question for you Chris: Are there massive Hummer h2's running around in England or is it an American thing?

Funkaloyd
08-25-2005, 03:57 AM
How common are those things over there (the closest I've gotton to seeing one is knowing somebody who saw one once)?

Ali
08-25-2005, 04:08 AM
A question for you Chris: Are there massive Hummer h2's running around in England or is it an American thing?I saw one in Paris last week... 'kin idiot must have realised by now that most streets here can barely accommodate one car at a time, let alone something wide enough to drive behind a tank!

I shudder to think where that guy manages to park and how he finds paying 1.20 euros per litre to fuel that thing!

Tone Capone
08-25-2005, 04:11 AM
Well not long ago we were paying 1.80 a gallon. Hell I remember not so long ago .99 a gallon and I'm not quite grey of hair yet.

A question for you Chris: Are there massive Hummer h2's running around in England or is it an American thing?

I seen one in Northwich England the other day and it didn't have American plates on it so, do the math...

yeahwho
08-25-2005, 04:15 AM
How come everybody is going to Chicago? Cheap guns?

synch
08-25-2005, 04:15 AM
I seen one in Northwich England the other day and it didn't have American plates on it so, do the math...
"The math"?

Ehm... there is at least one in England? :D

synch
08-25-2005, 04:16 AM
How come everybody is going to Chicago? Cheap guns?
Wind is this years black.

Tone Capone
08-25-2005, 05:02 AM
"The math"?

Ehm... there is at least one in England? :D

Smart ass :p

I'm sure there is more than one. Hell, there are europeans driving full blown tanks that went wholesale after the cold war!!! :eek:

QueenAdrock
08-25-2005, 11:40 AM
That's kinda misleading. You make it sound like dude was going "Alright, I'm gonna get some gas and then kill the guy so I don't have to pay" when what happened is the dude was trying to STEAL gas and accidentally killed the guy.

Really? I took it as the guy came out to collect money, and the guy ran him down. I thought he wasn't planning on killing him, until the guy came out.

Husain Caddi, the gas station owner that was struck and killed Friday when he attempted to stop a driver from leaving his fuel pump without paying for $52 in gasoline. Police are searching for the driver of the gold or tan Jeep-style SUV.

QueenAdrock
08-25-2005, 11:41 AM
How come everybody is going to Chicago? Cheap guns?


Boyfriend is getting his master's from UIC, going to go visit him.

Only one more semester. :)



...and yes, cheap guns too. But that goes without saying.

Abe Froman
08-25-2005, 12:36 PM
I'm all for gas prices going sky high. My thought is that people would finally be pissed enough to actually get some kind of modern transportation bill that would take us into the future and to stop us from pumping so much dinosaur into machines that make us go places. But 3 bucks a gallon certainly hasn't done it yet.

QueenAdrock
08-25-2005, 12:49 PM
Actually, I read in the Post last week about how these SUV-drivers can't afford to fill up their tanks anymore, so they're forced to trade in their squirrel-squashing deer-smacking driving machines for something that won't force them to take out a second mortgage everytime they go to the pump.

That made me smile. (y)

Medellia
08-25-2005, 10:55 PM
How come everybody is going to Chicago? Cheap guns?
Paul Weller concert. An early b-day present from my awesome mom. :D

Tone Capone
08-26-2005, 12:34 AM
Really? I took it as the guy came out to collect money, and the guy ran him down. I thought he wasn't planning on killing him, until the guy came out.

Husain Caddi, the gas station owner that was struck and killed Friday when he attempted to stop a driver from leaving his fuel pump without paying for $52 in gasoline. Police are searching for the driver of the gold or tan Jeep-style SUV.

Seriously, at what gas station does the clerk come out to collect money? The clerk came out when he seen the dude driving off and got hit by the car. The driver was wrong to do what he did but, it's not 1st degree murder, more like a robbery gone wrong.

"A man surrendered to police Thursday in the death of a gas station owner who tried to stop a $52 gasoline theft by grabbing onto a moving vehicle, but was run over and killed.

Police said Alvin D. Benefield, 42, surrendered Thursday and was held on charges including theft and manslaughter in the death of Husain "Tony" Caddi, 54. Caddi was killed Aug. 19 in the drive-off at his Texaco station in Fort Payne in rural northeast Alabama.

Benefield gave a statement in which "he said he didn't have the money for gas and said he didn't realize what had happened at the time," Fort Payne Assistant Police Chief Mike Grant said. "But after he found out he said it started bothering him real bad."

Benefield said he knew Caddi had fallen while trying to stop his vehicle, but claimed he didn't know that Caddis had died until he read a newspaper article Tuesday, Grant told the Times-Journal in Fort Payne." http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Gas%20Theft%20Death





"Police say Alvin Dwight Benefield tried to get away with not paying for $52 worth of gas he pumped into his SUV. Authorities say the owner tried to stop the driver by grabbing onto the Jeep Grand Cherokee, but was run over and killed." http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9078229/

Ali
08-26-2005, 03:17 AM
3 bucks a gallon certainly hasn't done it yet.Five years from now, people will look back at 3 bucks a gallon and sigh nostalgically when they remember how cheap gas was.

I'm all for less burning of fossil fuels, but there needs to be investment into alternative means of transportation, subsidies on fuel-efficient vehicles, tax breaks for small car owners, etc.

A tax on SUV owners could provide the funds for said subsidies... that would be Justice!

D_Raay
08-26-2005, 12:42 PM
Five years from now, people will look back at 3 bucks a gallon and sigh nostalgically when they remember how cheap gas was.

I'm all for less burning of fossil fuels, but there needs to be investment into alternative means of transportation, subsidies on fuel-efficient vehicles, tax breaks for small car owners, etc.

A tax on SUV owners could provide the funds for said subsidies... that would be Justice!
All you have to do here Ali is turn on the TV to see where we are at in the US. You would be sure to see some GM ad shamelessly promoting another of their gas guzzling behemoths under the same old tired themes of power and bravado.
This from a company who threatened employees pensions because they lost so much money deciding not to go with more efficient vehicle models. It borders on infantile schoolyard bully tactics.

infidel
08-26-2005, 06:31 PM
Check out this method for free gas, much better than killing someone
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wrongwayandugg
08-29-2005, 01:31 AM
This has got to be about the greed of the 'Haves' because I'm not hearing enough about alternative means of energy. The only place I get that info is on the Discovery Channel. :(

We're in deep. This is only the beginning. How do we find hope when the masses won't wake up? :confused: We'll see eventually. :o

D_Raay
08-29-2005, 03:17 AM
This has got to be about the greed of the 'Haves' because I'm not hearing enough about alternative means of energy. The only place I get that info is on the Discovery Channel. :(

We're in deep. This is only the beginning. How do we find hope when the masses won't wake up? :confused: We'll see eventually. :o
Get off your cell phones, get out of your tanks, take a look at your daughter or son or significant other or relative, and decide you just aren't going to be manipulated by the capitalist machine anymore. You are not a consumer. You are a human being with as much say in society as any empty suit CEO out there.

Country, economics, health, drugs, technology, our outrageous food options, are all secondary to your own humanity whether you are christian, jew, muslim, agnostic, atheist; it doesn't matter. You are <insert your own name here>.

QueenAdrock
08-29-2005, 11:28 PM
Seriously, at what gas station does the clerk come out to collect money? The clerk came out when he seen the dude driving off and got hit by the car. The driver was wrong to do what he did but, it's not 1st degree murder, more like a robbery gone wrong.

He comes out to collect the money when he sees that the guy's about to run away with the gas. Why else would he have gone out there in the first place? He saw the guy wasn't going to pay, so he left his post to go collect his $52 from him.

It does now sound that it was a robbery gone wrong, but from the details of the article I posted up, it did sound like he did it on purpose to get away without paying. So sorry if you thought I was "misleading," but that's how I took it.

And I stand by my accusation that Americans are greedy pigs. :)

STANKY808
08-31-2005, 01:10 PM
From an AP story today about a W speech he gave yesterday.

Finally we get the truth. It WAS about the oil.

''If Zarqawi and [Osama] bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. ''They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition."

wanton wench
08-31-2005, 01:19 PM
How come everybody is going to Chicago? Cheap guns?
i'm going this weekend to see my sister!
and buy a cheap gun ! :cool: