New Orleans Will RUIN Bush

[BionicEye]

Too much money thrown about freely in Iraq
Now a whole city is gone because not enough loot went into those walls and levies.
Helicopters shrink wrapped and stacks of cash spent to practically FedEx a war to Iraq.
Now UNIMAGINABLE Money HAS to be spent to recreate this city
and where will it come from?

I think Mr. Bush is in a bit of a pinch.

[Ali]

Another nail in the coffin.

Even God has shown His disapproval of the War in Iraq and Bush's disdain for the Elements. The Christian Right will not support him in future.

No, Q. I'm not saying that Global Warming causes Hurricanes, I'm saying that Bush's attitude to the Climate is one of the reasons why the money was not spent on preparing for this disaster. It was spent on protecting oil fields from terrorists. Climatic events take a big back seat to oil reserves in this guy's list.

He's got his priorities totally back to front. Now he will pay.

It's a pity so many people had to die, both in Iraq and the US, because of this man and his friends. Lets hope he goes before more people lose their lives.

[enree erzweglle]

If this doesn't destroy him, then nothing (NOTHING) will.

Then I think that denial is strong with some people--they might find crazy ways to deny Bush's failure and to boost him to hero status. It depends on how this gets spun and whether he massages and manages it in the right way, whether he can contain the smirk. Sometimes people just want to hear the lockerroom pep talk ("We're with ya, my friends and help is on the way, rest assured <smirk>") instead of pressuring him to give actionable plans.

(I've had friends who have had huge problems in their lives and sometimes, there's nothing to do but to wait for them to hit their own personal rock bottom so that they can start to recover. Something happens and you think that this is it--this is the thing that'll knock desperate sense into them. But it doesn't. Because they're blinded, they're in denial, and they want to believe the best the impossible about themselves. The very same thing could happen with GW and this tragedy--people could well just praise him over how he handles this if it's spun in the right way. You just never know.

I'll be very interested to watch how the conservative right spins all of this. I wonder what the Christian Coalition will have to say about dead bodies rotting in the streets and people dying not from the initial impact of the storm, but because recovery efforts were so stalled and poorly managed.

[Medellia]

Watching the footage of the people stuck at the convention center I feel two conflicting emotions. One is the absolute joy at how angry the people there are. They are pissed off and you can just feel that there is a change in the air.

But on the other hand my heart is absolutely breaking for the people that are clearly dying. People with pre-existing medical problems and no medication available, small children and elderly people who clearly won't make it much longer in the heat with no water. Fuck, where is the help that they so desperately need?

[enree erzweglle]

^^^I know. I felt the same way--get and stay angry, people.

It's easier to say that, though. They'yre exhausted and tired and scared and it's probably hard to feel anger for a lot of them. They're probably still shocky after all of this. I'd much rather see anger in them than defeat. It is so, so hard to watch people who feel desperate and destitute, like there is nothing left for them. You can see it in their eyes and I just cry when I see that.

I saw a news story last night about a neo-natal unit that's struggling to stay open. The staff stayed through the storm and the aftermath (they're still there) to keep these babies alive. If they have to, they'll hand-crank the life-support for them. And it's blazing hot in the buildings (which is good for the babies but very hard for them). The personnel are exhausted--some were on the verge of tears but there was a kind of optimism and hope there too. They've left their own kids in the care of other people to help these kids. When I hear things like that, it's like I turn into a mushball...so many conflicting emotions watching these news stories. :( Other than giving money to them, what can we do? It's like I want to say, hey, greyhound busses, bring them here! I can take at least 10 people.

[Medellia]

I believe it was Charity Hospital (although I'm sure all the hospitals in the area have had the same problem) lost all power and have had to use the hand held oxygen pumps to keep the people on ventilators alive. They get tired after doing that for five minutes most of the time, and they can't stop or else these people wil definately die as opposed to probably. :(

[Medellia]

Meh, can't think of a better place to put this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html

Check out the date. Fucking creepy. Oh and a few conservative news agencies are a bit pissed now. I'll find some links.

[Laver1969]

Meh, can't think of a better place to put this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html

Check out the date. Fucking creepy. Oh and a few conservative news agencies are a bit pissed now. I'll find some links.

^^When I saw the date, that gave me friggin shivers.

It's been common knowledge that if New Olreans ever got hit, these are the kinds of things that would happen. There must have been all kinds of plans as to how everyone would respond to this emeregency, fix levees, get people out, and get supplies in. What the fuck happened?

What Katrina did to New Orleans and levees was not a surprise.

[enree erzweglle]

^^When I saw the date, that gave me friggin shivers.

It's been common knowledge that if New Olreans ever got hit, these are the kinds of things that would happen. There must have been all kinds of plans as to how everyone would respond to this emeregency, fix levees, get people out, and get supplies in. What the fuck happened?

What Katrina did to New Orleans and levees was not a surprise.
I saw a story last night from a commander in the Army Corps of Engineers. He said that when they proposed and then built the levees in New Orleans, they did cost-benefit analyses and decided that they should build for no more than a Category 3 storm.

[Medellia]

^^When I saw the date, that gave me friggin shivers.

It's been common knowledge that if New Olreans ever got hit, these are the kinds of things that would happen. There must have been all kinds of plans as to how everyone would respond to this emeregency, fix levees, get people out, and get supplies in. What the fuck happened?
This is what the fuck happened. :mad: (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N01279059.htm)
(anger not directed at you, BTW)
What Katrina did to New Orleans and levees was not a surprise.
"I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees." (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delays2sep02,0,3594528.story?coll=la-home-headlines) Bush doesn't seem to agree. :rolleyes:

Perhaps we should remind him, so here it is yet again. Just for you Dubya: :mad: (http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...ch/1282151.html)
Click the angry face if you want, it's just the Popular Mechanics article again though.

[Medellia]

In his press conference thing he just promised to send millions of tons of food to NOLA. How the fuck is he going to get "millions of tons of food" there? How the fuck is he gonna get a million tons of food anyway? That was the retarded icing on his dumbass cake. Can we please impeach him already?

[TonsOfFun]

millions of gallons of water to.

I'm glad he knew the figures and exactly what was happening [/sarcasm]

Agreed tho, this should get rid of bush, I don't american public are that stupid and will believe the spin to enven vote for his admin in the mid-term election.

I hope he really does meet some of the people on the ground. I'd be sacred if I was him, but then he is too dumb to be scared probably. (not that I'm wishing anything bad to happen to anyone). But on how they seem to repecting authority at the moment, its scary.

[valvano]

you know, govt and its bureaucracy is so fu'd, no matter who was president, bush, clinton, kerry, nixon, walt disney and his imagineers, we would still be seeing this bs go on

and it totally exposes our weakness to terrorists, we harass 90 year old women at airport security lines, but if this had been a bomb instead of a hurricane, the equivalent would be standing around with your thumb up you ass

now, if i were president, first thing i would do is declare marshall law and shoot to kill looters stealing NON food items....

(lb)

[enree erzweglle]

In his press conference thing he just promised to send millions of tons of food to NOLA. How the fuck is he going to get "millions of tons of food" there? How the fuck is he gonna get a million tons of food anyway? That was the retarded icing on his dumbass cake. Can we please impeach him already?
Is he planning to air drops that stuff? (I missed seeing that news conference.) Damn, air drop something to those people if you can't get busses and army trucks in there. (Although you MUST be able to get some trucks in because they could get busses out yesterday and Wednesday. I'd love to see a map that shows which highways are no longer in operation. That would help me to understand why I'm not seeing hundreds of busses lined up to get those people out.)

[Medellia]

I was only watching out of the corner of my eye, but it looked like he flew in on his helicopter with some Homeland Security official or something (who seemed to just be there to stand next to him), spoke for approximately five minutes, and got back in his chopper and flew off.

I wasn't paying much attention, but the "million gallons of water and million tons of food" comment still got through.

[nyhelo81]

HEY FOR ALL YOU RETARDS OUT THERE WHO ARE POINTING THE FINGER AT BUSH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT IS CHILL.... THE FACT YOU LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH AT ALL YOU KNOW HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE LEEVIES.....HE ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR SURVEYING EVERY DAMN CITY AND STATE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT. THATS WHY THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DELEGATION OF DUTIES. AND OH YEAH SOMETHING CALLED A MAYOR AND A GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE SURVEYING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR LEGISLATURE TO BE PASSED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE LEEVIES. PLUS EVERYONE IN NEW ORLEANS KNOWS THEY'RE BELOW SEA LEVEL. SO ALL YOU BUSH BASHING BEASTIES EAT IT, AND THE REST KEEP ON KEEPING ON!

[enree erzweglle]

I was only watching out of the corner of my eye, but it looked like he flew in on his helicopter with some Homeland Security official or something (who seemed to just be there to stand next to him), spoke for approximately five minutes, and got back in his chopper and flew off.

I wasn't paying much attention, but the "million gallons of water and million tons of food" comment still got through.
I've got a pretty right-wing friend who has consistently supported and praised GW. She's seething over all of this. I just finished a 30-minute phone call with her and basically the entire time, she was ranting about him and why it's taken him so long to do anything on a big scale. Why those people don't at least know when relief is coming. She's pissed, big time, at him. And she's seeing the smirk. She could never see that before...she saw his "smile" as showing compassion and composure, but she sees it as a smirk today.

[Ali]

now, if i were president, first thing i would do is declare marshall law and shoot to kill looters stealing NON food items....Yeah! Here's another idea: Shoot all black people, in case they are looters and all Arabic people in case they are terrorists (lb)

[valvano]

would you continue to loot if you saw one of your fellow looters shot dead by the national guard???

:eek:

[enree erzweglle]

now, if i were president, first thing i would do is declare marshall law and shoot to kill looters stealing NON food items....
Why? When things are as desperate as they appear to be, why do we care about protecting non-food items? (I do see the point of keeping people from looting weapons/guns/ammo, but why do we CARE about big-screen TVs?)

[Medellia]

would you continue to loot if you saw one of your fellow looters shot dead by the national guard???

:eek:
I think they've gotten to the point were they just don't care. They probably think they're going to die there, might as well stick it to the man beforehand.

Of course, that's just speculation on my part. And the people they're screwing were already screwed, because much of the merchandise being stolen was probably already damaged anyway. But when you're poor, uneducated, desperated, pissed off, and scared you'll probably do some stupid shit.

[Ali]

why do we CARE about big-screen TVs?)Because you are American?

[Bob]

would you continue to loot if you saw one of your fellow looters shot dead by the national guard???

:eek:

i don't know, i've never been a looter. at any rate, i refuse to even TRY to predict the behavior of the people down there, because to me up here, none of it makes any sense as is (shooting at firefighters, resuce choppers, etc.). apparently, this is not a time for rational thinking, to them.

[Ali]

HEY FOR ALL YOU RETARDS OUT THERE WHO ARE POINTING THE FINGER AT BUSH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT IS CHILL.... THE FACT YOU LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH AT ALL YOU KNOW HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE LEEVIES.....HE ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR SURVEYING EVERY DAMN CITY AND STATE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT. THATS WHY THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DELEGATION OF DUTIES. AND OH YEAH SOMETHING CALLED A MAYOR AND A GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE SURVEYING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR LEGISLATURE TO BE PASSED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE LEEVIES. PLUS EVERYONE IN NEW ORLEANS KNOWS THEY'RE BELOW SEA LEVEL. SO ALL YOU BUSH BASHING BEASTIES EAT IT, AND THE REST KEEP ON KEEPING ON!Ah, eight more years, then :rolleyes:

[Burnout18]

Yeah! Here's another idea: Shoot all black people, in case they are looters and all Arabic people in case they are terrorists (lb)

y they gotta be black?

[D_Raay]

HEY FOR ALL YOU RETARDS OUT THERE WHO ARE POINTING THE FINGER AT BUSH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT IS CHILL.... THE FACT YOU LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH AT ALL YOU KNOW HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE LEEVIES.....HE ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR SURVEYING EVERY DAMN CITY AND STATE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT. THATS WHY THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DELEGATION OF DUTIES. AND OH YEAH SOMETHING CALLED A MAYOR AND A GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE SURVEYING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR LEGISLATURE TO BE PASSED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE LEEVIES. PLUS EVERYONE IN NEW ORLEANS KNOWS THEY'RE BELOW SEA LEVEL. SO ALL YOU BUSH BASHING BEASTIES EAT IT, AND THE REST KEEP ON KEEPING ON!
Who the fuck are you and why did you think YOU had anything to add to this conversation? Go stick your head back in the sand, or start an ebonics thread. Stick with what you know.

[D_Raay]

HEY FOR ALL YOU RETARDS OUT THERE WHO ARE POINTING THE FINGER AT BUSH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT IS CHILL.... THE FACT YOU LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH AT ALL YOU KNOW HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE LEEVIES.....HE ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR SURVEYING EVERY DAMN CITY AND STATE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT. THATS WHY THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DELEGATION OF DUTIES. AND OH YEAH SOMETHING CALLED A MAYOR AND A GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE SURVEYING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR LEGISLATURE TO BE PASSED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE LEEVIES. PLUS EVERYONE IN NEW ORLEANS KNOWS THEY'RE BELOW SEA LEVEL. SO ALL YOU BUSH BASHING BEASTIES EAT IT, AND THE REST KEEP ON KEEPING ON!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20050902-9999-1n2funds.html

A key flood-control project in southeastern Louisiana has seen its federal funding steadily dwindle, from $69 million in 2001 to $32.2 million in 2005, according to congressional offices and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Bush requested $10.5 million for the project for 2006, while the Corps said $62.5 million was required.

Funding for hurricane protection, including levee improvements and pumping stations, went from $10 million in 2001 to $5.7 million this year. Bush proposed $3 million for 2006.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported last year that work was virtually halted on one major hurricane levee project for the first time in 37 years. At the time, a local official blamed a shift in resources to Iraq and counterterrorism efforts.

[D_Raay]

How is it possible that in a country which is always blowing its horn about how advanced it is, that people are starving to death? Is this Somalia? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

How is it possible that young children are dying of thirst. Is this Mali? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

How is it possible that people are having to scavenge for food. Is this Burkina Faso? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

[Echewta]

He isn't ruined. He will "retire" just like Clinton, Bush Sr. etc., in weatlh and comfort.

[valvano]

How is it possible that in a country which is always blowing its horn about how advanced it is, that people are starving to death? Is this Somalia? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

How is it possible that young children are dying of thirst. Is this Mali? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

How is it possible that people are having to scavenge for food. Is this Burkina Faso? No, it is George Bush's United States of America.

You mean Al Gore's United States of America, because W stole the election from him, right?

[D_Raay]

You mean Al Gore's United States of America, because W stole the election from him, right?
Oh your sooooo clever... I know not what to do in the face of such wit.

[aspartame]

Regarding the victims in New Orleans, Bush basically told the world, "let them eat cake".

[Medellia]

HOORAY!!!! Trent Lott's House will be rebuilt! (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050902/dcf054.html?.v=7)
We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch. (Laughter.)
Well at least they're gonna go save some lives before they sit on the porch.

[adam_f]

I'm looking forward to the mayor of New Orleans meeting with Bush and whupping his ass. At the dentist yesterday they had a radio interview with him on CNN, and the guy sounded like he was going John Shaft on anyone who crossed him.

He's my new favorite mayor.

[Medellia]

Mine too. Hope he runs for national office someday.

[nyhelo81]

Who the fuck are you and why did you think YOU had anything to add to this conversation? Go stick your head back in the sand, or start an ebonics thread. Stick with what you know.
HEY SHIT HEAD.....EAT MY ASS..... YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. GO FUCK YOUR MOM!!!!

[D_Raay]

HEY SHIT HEAD.....EAT MY ASS..... YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. GO FUCK YOUR MOM!!!!
Yeah between you and me, I certainly have nothing to add at all. You're right. Coherent rational posting without a caps lock is certainly the sign of my poor intelligence, while your ramblings hold the benchmarks of a highly educated remarkable poster.

[cosmo105]

i was thinking about this last night. no way can people support him now, after this ridiculous embarassment for the nation. i think the U.S. in general is starting to show its weakness. we won't be the biggest superpower forever, and the cracks in our hull are widening...the whole world is laughing at us and gloating, and we look ridiculous. our economy is going to fucking burst after this. we can't take care of ourselves, much less the rest of the world. and people wonder why so much of the world despises us.

[K-nowledge]

The only bush that will be ruined is Kathleen Blanco.

[Vladimir]

Yeah between you and me, I certainly have nothing to add at all. You're right. Coherent rational posting without a caps lock is certainly the sign of my poor intelligence, while your ramblings hold the benchmarks of a highly educated remarkable poster.

While I applaud the way you put that fool down like so many stray dogs, I would have to caution you not to feed the troll, because there is no way someone can seriously say "YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. GO FUCK YOUR MOM!!!!" I was just waiting for him to go "!!!111!!!1!!1" The 1's are a sure sign of trolliness.

And yeah, George W. Bush is fucked. What poetic irony. He didn't go down from the Karl Rove thing, he didn't go down from the ridiculous war in Iraq, and mother nature takes him down like the wet sack of shit that he is.

[BionicEye]

He isn't ruined. He will "retire" just like Clinton, Bush Sr. etc., in weatlh and comfort.


That's obvious even without the quotation marks. But it seems that, thanks to this disaster, his place in history is secure. Read all above.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by gmsisko1
On Tues this same Mayor said NO is fine and needs no help. (As the water was rising)

On Wed. he changed his tone.

This is the same mayor who refused to give the NO Police Dept. more police boats a couple of years ago. (Those boats would help right now)

This is also the same mayor who declared New Orleans a State of Emergency BEFORE the hurricane hit, leading everyone to believe that something catastrophic would occur, and would be in dire need of gov't help.

[Documad]

I saw a story last night from a commander in the Army Corps of Engineers. He said that when they proposed and then built the levees in New Orleans, they did cost-benefit analyses and decided that they should build for no more than a Category 3 storm.

Did he say what the design standard was supposed to be now? when it was designed?

Every single bit of infrastructure you depend on was designed this way. It's the only way it can be done. Every road, bridge, building, pipe, and lake. The government can't protect its citizens from every possible natural disaster. They always weigh the costs and risks of various scenarios.

Citizens don't want to pay what it costs for a higher level or protection on new projects, muchless replace every old bridge, etc.

I think about this stuff all the time and wonder what would happen if things failed.
Welcome to my world.

[D_Raay]

While I applaud the way you put that fool down like so many stray dogs, I would have to caution you not to feed the troll, because there is no way someone can seriously say "YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. GO FUCK YOUR MOM!!!!" I was just waiting for him to go "!!!111!!!1!!1" The 1's are a sure sign of trolliness.

And yeah, George W. Bush is fucked. What poetic irony. He didn't go down from the Karl Rove thing, he didn't go down from the ridiculous war in Iraq, and mother nature takes him down like the wet sack of shit that he is.
Yeah you're right vladimir, although I couldn't resist responding to such blind stupidity.

[D_Raay]

Well, I am off to New Orleans tomorrow for at least a few days. I hope I can help as much as I would like to. I have to be back by Thursday though so I may end up feeling I could have done more. I will be sure to let you guys know all about it though when I get back.

[DroppinScience]

Well, I am off to New Orleans tomorrow for at least a few days. I hope I can help as much as I would like to. I have to be back by Thursday though so I may end up feeling I could have done more. I will be sure to let you guys know all about it though when I get back.

Are you working for the Red Cross? Salvation Army?

At any event, best of luck in NOLA. That's great that you're doing this. I hope you contribute to lessening the burdens of the people on New Orleans. (y)

[catatonic]

HEY FOR ALL YOU RETARDS OUT THERE WHO ARE POINTING THE FINGER AT BUSH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT IS CHILL.... THE FACT YOU LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND BUSH AT ALL YOU KNOW HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE LEEVIES.....HE ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR SURVEYING EVERY DAMN CITY AND STATE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT. THATS WHY THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DELEGATION OF DUTIES. AND OH YEAH SOMETHING CALLED A MAYOR AND A GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE SURVEYING DONE BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. THEY NEVER ASKED FOR LEGISLATURE TO BE PASSED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE LEEVIES. PLUS EVERYONE IN NEW ORLEANS KNOWS THEY'RE BELOW SEA LEVEL. SO ALL YOU BUSH BASHING BEASTIES EAT IT, AND THE REST KEEP ON KEEPING ON!

The mayor and governor had been strongly pushing for improving the levies, but it was up to the Corp of Engineers who were defunded. "The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation's waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years."

[Space]

I think Mr. Bush is in a bit of a pinch.

dont worry about bush man, "the brothers in the streets are willing to work it out"

[Documad]

The mayor and governor had been strongly pushing for improving the levies, but it was up to the Corp of Engineers who were defunded. "The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation's waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years."
Well, we can't fund levees AND bring freedom to Iraq AND cut taxes. Something had to give.

So I wonder what the cost would have been for better flood control vs. the cost of evacuation, cleanup, and rebuilding. I'm thinking that even if you don't factor in all the dead people, someone messed up the cost/benefit analysis.

But don't worry, I'm sure the rest of our infrastructure has been fully funded.

[Ali]

i was thinking about this last night. no way can people support him now, after this ridiculous embarassment for the nation. i think the U.S. in general is starting to show its weakness. we won't be the biggest superpower forever, and the cracks in our hull are widening...the whole world is laughing at us and gloating, and we look ridiculous. our economy is going to fucking burst after this. we can't take care of ourselves, much less the rest of the world. and people wonder why so much of the world despises us.And the most ironic thing of all is that it's been the one thing which Bush has paid the least respect to which has given him the biggest bitchslap - the Forces of Nature.

Think he'll learn?

[BionicEye]

Nah - he won't learn. But he definately looked like he got slapped up like a bitch at one of yesterday's news conferences. Laura Bush, who I don't really care for either way, was a gajillion times more eloquent and effective than him these past few days. Compassion just cannot be faked.

[zorra_chiflada]

Nah - he won't learn. But he definately looked like he got slapped up like a bitch at one of yesterday's news conferences. Laura Bush, who I don't really care for either way, was a gajillion times more eloquent and effective than him these past few days. Compassion just cannot be faked.

i don't know if it will ruin bush.
even on this message board there are still quite a few retards that stand by bush. (like, OMG, how could that man do any wrong? it's the poor people's fault, they don't deserve help)
looking at the America from the outside, i don't think we have the same optimism about the future of the US that you do.
i think in many ways, things will remain unchanged.

[beastieangel01]

Yeah! Here's another idea: Shoot all black people, in case they are looters and all Arabic people in case they are terrorists (lb)

pretty much was going to be my response.

Hmm, we could also take the time out to use binoculars, just to be SURE they aren't looting food (whether they be black, white, or any other race). And if they are, SHOOT EM DOWN! I mean, we just CANNOT let them take anything else, oh no no, not at all. They are better when they are dead.

By the way, in regards to the idea of shooting looters... does that mean you think anyone who steals anything ever should be shot dead too? because really, that is the logic behind the original statement.

As far as those who are shooting at rescue crews, I find it awful. I don't know what could be going through their minds, but trying to protect the victims that are being rescued, as well as the people rescuing them is important. It's amazing to me that it's even an issue though.

I have to agree with cos on all her points, too.