Please don't think I'm being Racist here or Evil or anti-american or a terrorist...

[TonsOfFun]

...(although often the same thing).

And I know karma isn't written to work in this from the undstanding I've taken from books and reading other stuff. But I was thinking about this last night. Although I know it's kinda past a reasonable argument.

So, in my opinion (not everyones opinion so you republican nazi'z stay back), America has done some pretty crappy things recently, like invading Iraq, poor domestic policies, voting in one of the biggest idiots under a voting system that seems at best, suspect. Where ever America are, they are fucking up at times and while America is getting fucked with weather - which I beleive is caused by poor environmental policies across the whole world but the US Admin seems to have the worse policy on the Enviroment for a developed country, do you think some of this might be Karma?

Would it work on such a scale? I like the idea of karma and kinda try to live my life by such a method, which isn't far away from 'love thy neighbour' stuff I was taught as a catholic. But now I class myself as Buddhist. So anyway, the elected members of the US Admin seem to be taking a few blows that are effecting America in such a way that it's hurt their position in power. Bad things happen to Bad people, so what would be classed as a 'bad or dangerous country' (not everyone but I am generalising here), I would vote USA to be the most dangerous country in the world at the moment, do you think these hurricanes, is a way of saying, via the theory (if you want to call it a theory) of KARMA, that USA are now getting hit by the effects of karma?

I know lots of lives have been lost in the Hurricanes and more will be lost in Texas, and it's sad, really really sad but I was thinking last night that although those getting effected and killed by it may not support such wars and American policy, but they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, the same way Iraqi, Afghan etc lives have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. But if it's bring US troops back to the homeland, can something bad like this hurricane bring out something good. With more troops coming back, hopefully some will stay back at home, pleasing them and their family, it's like a Mother Nature forcing a slow withdraw of troops until the US admin get the point to look after thier own whiling trying to do whatever they are trying to acheive in other countries!?

I'm not saying that the hurricanes might never of come if countries wasn't invaded, but would be by far a better position to deal with what Hurricane Kat bought and what Hurricane Rita may bring.

Sorry for the long thread and time getting to a hazy point but I've left myself open to all sorts of attacks from right wing peeps who might think I'm having a go at them, but I'm not, ok!?

[Loppfessor]

Were you stoned when you came up with this theory are are you just mildy retarded??

[icy manipulator]

the simple answer is blame george duyab. you know this. there is still subtle propaganda in almost every piece of american works if you look and listen close enough

[TonsOfFun]

Were you stoned when you came up with this theory are are you just mildy retarded??

yes and no

[TonsOfFun]

the simple answer is blame george duyab. you know this. there is still subtle propaganda in almost every piece of american works if you look and listen close enough


can't blame him for a hurricane though can you? I'm blaming that on Karma

[tracky]

I've had the same thoughts. I think we're on a similar wave-length TonsOfFun.

[Tone Capone]

Oh jeebus...

That's like a whole 'nother level man....

[yeahwho]

I wish GWB would put an end to this inaction and declare a "War on Hurricanes" effective immediately.

[enree erzweglle]

I wish GWB would put an end to this inaction and declare a "War on Hurricanes" effective immediately.
You know he wants to.

[Mcmac]

can't blame him for a hurricane though can you? I'm blaming that on Karma

yes u can coz he could have got the shit fixed that made the hurricane not be able to come in

[Kid Presentable]

...(although often the same thing).

And I know karma isn't written to work in this from the undstanding I've taken from books and reading other stuff. But I was thinking about this last night. Although I know it's kinda past a reasonable argument.

So, in my opinion (not everyones opinion so you republican nazi'z stay back), America has done some pretty crappy things recently, like invading Iraq, poor domestic policies, voting in one of the biggest idiots under a voting system that seems at best, suspect. Where ever America are, they are fucking up at times and while America is getting fucked with weather - which I beleive is caused by poor environmental policies across the whole world but the US Admin seems to have the worse policy on the Enviroment for a developed country, do you think some of this might be Karma?

Would it work on such a scale? I like the idea of karma and kinda try to live my life by such a method, which isn't far away from 'love thy neighbour' stuff I was taught as a catholic. But now I class myself as Buddhist. So anyway, the elected members of the US Admin seem to be taking a few blows that are effecting America in such a way that it's hurt their position in power. Bad things happen to Bad people, so what would be classed as a 'bad or dangerous country' (not everyone but I am generalising here), I would vote USA to be the most dangerous country in the world at the moment, do you think these hurricanes, is a way of saying, via the theory (if you want to call it a theory) of KARMA, that USA are now getting hit by the effects of karma?

I know lots of lives have been lost in the Hurricanes and more will be lost in Texas, and it's sad, really really sad but I was thinking last night that although those getting effected and killed by it may not support such wars and American policy, but they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, the same way Iraqi, Afghan etc lives have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. But if it's bring US troops back to the homeland, can something bad like this hurricane bring out something good. With more troops coming back, hopefully some will stay back at home, pleasing them and their family, it's like a Mother Nature forcing a slow withdraw of troops until the US admin get the point to look after thier own whiling trying to do whatever they are trying to acheive in other countries!?

I'm not saying that the hurricanes might never of come if countries wasn't invaded, but would be by far a better position to deal with what Hurricane Kat bought and what Hurricane Rita may bring.

Sorry for the long thread and time getting to a hazy point but I've left myself open to all sorts of attacks from right wing peeps who might think I'm having a go at them, but I'm not, ok!?


On certain levels, I agree.

I think that some forms of retribution may have been doled out to America, which affected the general public, when in fact they were issues for the leadership to deal with.

Dave's not here, man.

[Rancid_Beasties]

I think its less karma and more cause and effect. Ignore the kyoto protocol, and numerous other environmental treaties, and you will end up with climate changes and extreme weather. Ignore the causes behind terrorism and focus on the acts and you will end up looking like a cultural imperialist, which breeds more terrorism. Divert funds to sponsor this cultural imperialism, and you will be unable to fund preventative measures to limit the damage resulting from the environmental ignorance. Its a vicious circle. And America is firmly stuck in it.

[BionicEye]

yes u can coz he could have got the shit fixed that made the hurricane not be able to come in


you really are stupid. kak-sucker.

[WillMac]

politics suck.... don't ruin Tulla's Birthday.

[sam i am]

I'm sure that hurricanes that hit, with thousands dying, during WWII or WWI or any other war when a Democrat was in power proved the same theory.

The US IS the Great Satan. Khomeini was right! Death to America! :rolleyes:

[racer5.0stang]

the simple answer is blame george duyab. you know this. there is still subtle propaganda in almost every piece of american works if you look and listen close enough

Ignorance is truely bliss.

I wish GWB would put an end to this inaction and declare a "War on Hurricanes" effective immediately.

Wouldn't it be great if we could harness the power that these hurricanes create?

Unfortunatly it would not be used for the better of mankind.

[Ace42X]

Unfortunatly it would not be used for the better of mankind.

The wind-powered super-bomb? The US's answer to nuclear proliferation?

[racer5.0stang]

The wind-powered super-bomb? The US's answer to nuclear proliferation?

Not only the ability to harness, but the ability to create and direct.

Wow, thats terrifying.

[Monsieur Decuts]

Its them japanese with their geo-magnetic powers!
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Idaho_Weatherman_Touts_Hurricane_Katrina_Conspirac y_Theory

[boys_beastie]

yes u can coz he could have got the shit fixed that made the hurricane not be able to come in

they wouldnt have prevented a hurricane passing through, they were to stop flood, but were broken.

[zorra_chiflada]

I think its less karma and more cause and effect. Ignore the kyoto protocol, and numerous other environmental treaties, and you will end up with climate changes and extreme weather. Ignore the causes behind terrorism and focus on the acts and you will end up looking like a cultural imperialist, which breeds more terrorism. Divert funds to sponsor this cultural imperialism, and you will be unable to fund preventative measures to limit the damage resulting from the environmental ignorance. Its a vicious circle. And America is firmly stuck in it.

i was gonna say the same thing. not karma - but cause and effect.

[Rancid_Beasties]

i was gonna say the same thing. not karma - but cause and effect.
Well hurricanes are related to increases in water temperatures, which is related to global warming. Its not that far a link to draw.

[zorra_chiflada]

Well hurricanes are related to increases in water temperatures, which is related to global warming. Its not that far a link to draw.

yes well, some people don't believe in global warming. therefore, nothing is done about it.

[Rancid_Beasties]

yes well, some people don't believe in global warming. therefore, nothing is done about it.
Well the effects of global warming are visible, rising water levels, melting ice caps, decreases in certain marine lifeforms around antarctica etc. Are you saying they dont believe we are causing this, or that these effects don't exist?

[zorra_chiflada]

Well the effects of global warming are visible, rising water levels, melting ice caps, decreases in certain marine lifeforms around antarctica etc. Are you saying they dont believe we are causing this, or that these effects don't exist?

i think they are saying that global warming is not related to human activity.
that's quite convenient, isn't it? "oh, well, out of our hands, nope we're not doing anything about it"

[Documad]

Large scale natural disasters have happened to the US throughout its history. We tend to forget them. (Jonestown flood killed 2200, but that was more of a man-made disaster I think)

In the past few decades, we've been very lucky. We've also gotten better at building things that can survive storms and earthquakes, but it's inevitable that with more and more people living in closer quarters, when a big natural disaster does hit, the human cost will be huge.

And then there's disease like the big influenza epidemic which was my grandparents' generations' plague. I guess that would have been WWI bad karma.

[K-nowledge]

I guess Indonesia had some real fucked-up karma coming to them as well. :rolleyes:

[Space]

DONT YOU WORRY YOUR LITTLE ASS ABOUT texas.

GOT IT?

GET IT/

good!

WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.

[boys_beastie]

can you? rifles wont save you now...

[sam i am]

Large scale natural disasters have happened to the US throughout its history. We tend to forget them. (Jonestown flood killed 2200, but that was more of a man-made disaster I think)

In the past few decades, we've been very lucky. We've also gotten better at building things that can survive storms and earthquakes, but it's inevitable that with more and more people living in closer quarters, when a big natural disaster does hit, the human cost will be huge.

And then there's disease like the big influenza epidemic which was my grandparents' generations' plague. I guess that would have been WWI bad karma.

Excellent, Documad. You made the same point as I. Blaming natural disasters on karmic influences, while somewhat convenient to mitigate and channel inherent anger, is not realistic unless one looks at the broader scope of impact around the world from any and all tragedies.

[Funkaloyd]

Maybe karma works in mysterious ways :rolleyes:

[sam i am]

Maybe karma works in mysterious ways :rolleyes:

Maybe :rolleyes: not :rolleyes: nazi! :rolleyes:

(What's with your current predilection for rolled eyes anyways? :rolleyes: )

[Funkaloyd]

Predilection? I used it twice.

I generally use rolleyes to indicate sarcasm. The concept of karma is rather silly, not least because bad things happen to good people. Yet many of us are quite open to the possibility that there's an omnipotent and benevolent god out there, letting natural disasters happen because s/he "works in mysterious ways."